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00:00The United Nations is expressing serious concern over the deaths of at least 31 people in Kenya
00:06where police and protesters clashed during anti-government demonstrations the previous day.
00:11The violence erupting on Sabah Sabah Day, which means 7 at 7,
00:15when demonstrators annually marked the events of July 7, 1919
00:19when Kenyans rose up to demand a return to multi-party democracy
00:23after years of autocratic rule by the then-president Daniel Arab Moy.
00:27Protests are ongoing against the present-day government of the ruling man, William Ruto.
00:37Life has almost returned to normal in Nairobi this Tuesday,
00:41a day after violent clashes between protesters and police officers.
00:45Shops opened as usual and locals are back to work after an obligatory day off.
00:51I didn't work yesterday, so I didn't earn any money at all.
00:54I hope in any case that the government, whether they like it or not, has heard the people's demands.
01:00Authorities closed the capital's main roads on Monday to dissuade protesters from reaching the centre of town.
01:06Every year, thousands celebrate Sabah Sabah Day,
01:09remembering the nationwide protests on 7 July 1990,
01:13when Kenyans had filled the streets demanding free elections.
01:16Since last year, the commemoration has been linked to a wave of protest against President William Ruto,
01:21accused of corruption and police brutality.
01:24Not without reason, on the 25th of June this year,
01:27several protesters were killed in clashes with the police.
01:31Last time the police came with violence, they should come in peace.
01:35Looking at these trucks, it's clear they want violence.
01:38The situation was extremely tense yesterday and the protests rapidly descended into violence.
01:43As protesters threw stones at the police, authorities responded with firing tear gas grenades.
01:50Violence on both sides, which was condemned by the United Nations.
01:54We are deeply troubled by the killings yesterday of at least 10 people,
01:58as well as looting and destruction of property in Kenya,
02:01as police and other security forces responded to violent protests in the capital of Nairobi.
02:06Lethal ammunition, rubber bullets, tear gas and water cannons were used.
02:10Hundreds of protesters were also arrested.
02:14The divorce between President Ruto and Kenyan youth has rarely been more apparent.
02:20And of course, since the UN's Riviera Shamdazi was interviewed there,
02:24the toll has gone up from 10 to 31.
02:26Let's bring in Irungu Houghton, who is from Amnesty Kenya, joining us from Nairobi.
02:31Irungu, thanks for being with us.
02:32The UN deeply concerned, deeply troubled by what's happening in Kenya.
02:37What is Amnesty Kenya's take on the situation?
02:40Amnesty International would share the concerns of the United Nations.
02:46You know, the figures of 31 dead, probably about 20 out of the 47 counties,
02:52were paralyzed yesterday by running battles and violence by the police and also criminals.
02:59And we've verified, you know, just over 150 injuries as well with the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights.
03:08And what's really ironic about this is that they had been called to commemorate another day 35 years ago
03:15when 20 people had died, so 10 less than we saw yesterday.
03:19And a similar number had been charged in a court of law.
03:22And it just seems that we've not been able to facilitate protests in Kenya over the last 35 years.
03:29They just seem to turn very violent and very dangerous.
03:33At an earlier point in what has been a sequence of protests ongoing,
03:37the president tried to clamp down on any media coverage of what was going on.
03:42That raised alarm in many countries of a kind of a hush up of what was happening
03:46and then what might be happening when the cameras are switched off.
03:49Yes, I'm wondering whether President Ruto is under a great deal of pressure right now,
03:54given what is happening on the streets and given the accusations being made against his administration.
04:00Yes, I mean, although much of the focus has been on violent policing or police brutality,
04:05the obvious driver is not necessarily policing.
04:09It's actually politics and the sense that the government has lost, you know, popular support within the country.
04:15And therefore, what is essentially unfolding is really a kind of rebellion against his government.
04:25Yesterday, we saw, you know, Nairobi basically shut down.
04:29And something like about 14 million, I think it's about $140 million worth of business
04:36was essentially just interrupted as we saw the city shut down.
04:41For many of us, the concern has been that we don't seem to see any new strategies
04:47to be able to reach out and reach agreement with the protesters.
04:53What they're asking for essentially is that the officers that have killed Kenyans,
04:58I think about 120 Kenyans, Kenyan protesters over the last two years,
05:03that those officers need to be brought to the book.
05:05The officers and their commanders that have been enforceably disappearing
05:10or abducting, you know, critics of the government,
05:14they need to be brought to book and the multi-agency team needs to be disbanded.
05:18These are the kind of demands that we saw over this week.
05:22I think the other thing that, you know, we do have to see is the police begin to find new ways
05:27of facilitating protests.
05:29They failed at least three important tests yesterday.
05:34The first was the test of facilitating protests, protecting the protests.
05:38And essentially the roadblocks that they placed around different capital or different cities
05:43forced the violence into residential neighborhoods.
05:47And we have at least, you know, two minors who have been killed.
05:51One of them is Bridget Jockey, who was 12 years old.
05:53She was shot through a wall in her house as she was watching television.
06:00And she was one of the many children who couldn't go to school that day.
06:03So we are seeing a heavy toll in terms of violence.
06:07This is absolutely horrific what you're just describing, Eruno.
06:10I can't begin to imagine how that family must be feeling right now.
06:15Many people angry about corruption.
06:18We're hearing people complaining about lack of opportunity for young people.
06:21But it sounds like there's something more endemic happening there within Kenyan society.
06:26Can you put your finger on that?
06:29Well, I think, you know, the first point that you've raised, which is the economic distress,
06:33that a lot of young people just don't see any future in Kenya anymore.
06:37They are concerned about the cost of living.
06:40They are concerned about the lack of jobs.
06:41They increasingly feel that the government is not interested in generating employment or opportunities for them.
06:48And therefore, when they see these large, ostestatious, you know, expenditure patterns,
06:55they are very concerned about their future.
06:58And I think that's the underlying concern that many young people have at the moment.
07:01I think the violence that we're seeing on the streets and in terms of the enforced disappearances,
07:08that is just compounding the situation so that every time a person is shot,
07:13like, for example, a vendor, Karyoki, who was simply trying to sell COVID-style masks to protesters and even police officers,
07:22he was shot at close range and about a week later died of his injuries.
07:28And much of Kenya has seen that footage.
07:31Every time we see one of those cases or we hear about children like Bridget and Jorki,
07:36the country gets even more radicalised and the possibility of, I guess, a consensus or a breakthrough,
07:43a political breakthrough gets slimmer and slimmer.
07:45We're two years away from the election, so it's actually going to be quite a long period
07:50before Kenyans have the opportunity to select their leader as they did in 2022.
07:57Yerungo Houghton, Executive Director of Amnesty Kenya.
07:59Thank you very much indeed for sharing your analysis, your reflections and your eyewitness statements with us
08:04on the situation in your country in Kenya.
08:07Yerungo Houghton there from Amnesty International.
08:09Thanks again.

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