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The story of Sir Thomas More, who stood up to King Henry VIII when the King rejected the Roman Catholic Church to obtain a divorce and remarry. Starring: Paul Scofield, Wendy Hiller, Leo McKern, Orson Welles, Robert Shaw, Susannah York.
The story of Sir Thomas More, who stood up to King Henry VIII when the King rejected the Roman Catholic Church to obtain a divorce and remarry. Starring: Paul Scofield, Wendy Hiller, Leo McKern, Orson Welles, Robert Shaw, Susannah York.
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00:01:57north country and warned of a possible rebellion there. He did. We may say then that he showed
00:02:03himself hostile to the hopes of Spain. That's what I say. There, Whitney, Your Grace. If
00:02:10he opposes Spain, he supports us. Well, surely that follows, or do you see some third alternative?
00:02:18Well, that's the line-up, all right, and I may say, Thomas More... Thomas More will line
00:02:22up on the right side. Yes. Crank, he may be. Traitor, he's not. And with a little pressure,
00:02:28he can be got to say so. That's all we need, a brief declaration of loyalty through the
00:02:32present administration. Well, I still say let sleeping dogs lie. The king does not agree
00:02:39with you. Now, what sort of pressure do you think you can bring to bed? I have evidence
00:02:48that Sir Thomas, during his period of judicature, accepted bribes. What? God damn it, he's the
00:02:58only judge since Cato didn't accept bribes. When was there last a chancellor whose possessions,
00:03:05after three years in office, totaled one hundred pounds in a gold chain?
00:03:11Richard! It is, as you imply, a common practice, but a practice may be common and remain an
00:03:19offence. And this offence could send a man to the tower. I don't believe him. Ah, Richard,
00:03:24I believe you know his grace. Indeed, yes. We're old friends. You used to look after my books
00:03:28or something, didn't you? Thank you. This woman's name is Catherine Anger. She comes
00:03:36from Lincoln, and she put a case in the court of request. A property case, it was. Required.
00:03:42A property case in the court of request in April 1526. And got a wicked false judgment. And got
00:03:48an impeccably correct judgment from our friend Sir Thomas. No, sir, it was not. We are not concerned
00:03:54with the judgment, but with the gift you gave to the judge. Tell the gentleman about that. The
00:04:04judgment for what it was worth was the correct one. I sent him a cup. An Italian silver cup
00:04:12that I bought in Lincoln for a hundred shillings. Mr. Thomas accepts this cup.
00:04:19Well, I sent it. He did accept it. We can corroborate that. You may go. I want to go.
00:04:33Is that your witness? No. By an odd coincidence. The cup later came into the hands of Master Rich here.
00:04:41Huh. He gave it to me. Can you corroborate that? I have a fellow outside who can. He was more steward
00:04:50at the time. Shall I call him? Don't bother. I know him. When did Thomas give you this thing?
00:04:58I don't exactly remember. Well, make an effort. Wait. I can tell you. I can tell you. It was
00:05:11that spring. It was that evening that we were there together. You had a cup with you when we left.
00:05:16Was this it? It may have been. I can't. Did he often give you cups? I don't suppose so,
00:05:20Your Grace. This was it, then. Yes. And it was April. It was the April of 26th. The very month
00:05:29that cow first put her case before him. In other words, the moment he knew it was a bribe,
00:05:35he got rid of it. The facts will bear that interpretation, I suppose. This is a horse that
00:05:42won't run, Master Secretary. Just a trial canter, Your Grace. We'll find something better. Now,
00:05:50look here, Cromwell. I want no part of this. You have no choice. What's that you say? The King
00:05:57particularly wishes you to be active in this matter. Well, he hasn't told me that. Oh, indeed.
00:06:03Told me. But why? Well, we feel that since you are known to be a friend of Maw's, your participation
00:06:11will show that there is nothing in the nature of a persecution, but only the strict processes
00:06:17of the law, as indeed you've just demonstrated. Now, I'll tell the King of your loyalty to
00:06:24your friend. If you like, I'll tell him you want no part in it, too. Are you threatening
00:06:31me, Cromwell? My dear Norfolk, this isn't Spain.
00:06:41Secretary, I'm sorry. I'd completely forgotten that he was there that night. You must try
00:06:55to remember these things. Yes, Secretary. I'm sincerely sorry. Not such a fool as he looks,
00:07:00the Duke. That would hardly be possible, Secretary. Sir Thomas is going to be a slippery fish,
00:07:08Richard. We need a net with a finer mesh. Yes, Secretary. We'll weave one for him, shall
00:07:13we? You and I. I'm only anxious to do what is correct, Secretary. Oh, yes, Richard. I know
00:07:18you're absolutely right. It must be done by law. It's just a matter of finding the right
00:07:23law. Or making one. Bring my papers, will you?
00:07:27Could we have a word now, sir? We don't require you after all, Matthew. No, sir. But about
00:07:41the... Oh, yes. Well, I begin to need a steward, certainly. My household is expanding. But as I
00:07:51remember, Matthew, your attitude to me was sometimes disrespectful. Oh, I must contradict
00:07:57you there, sir. That's your imagination, sir. You see, in those days, sir, you still had
00:08:01your way to make. And a gentleman in that position often imagines these things. And then, when
00:08:05he's reached his proper level, he stops thinking about it. Well, I don't think you find people
00:08:09disrespectful nowadays, do you, sir? There may be something in that. Bring my papers.
00:08:15Yes. I'll permit no breath of insolence. No, I should hope not, sir. Well, I can manage
00:08:22this one. He's just my size. My husband is coming down, Your Excellency. Oh, thank you,
00:08:29madam. And I beg you to be gone before he does. Madam, I have a royal commission to perform.
00:08:35Aye, so you said. Sheer barbarity. Commend me to a good-hearted Englishwoman. It's very cold,
00:08:44excellency. Yes. I remember when these rooms were warm enough. Thus it is to incur the enmity
00:08:52of a king. A heretic king. Ah, Your Excellency. Ah, Sir Thomas. Is this another personal visit,
00:08:58or is it official? It falls between the two, Sir Thomas. Oh, official then? No. I bring a personal
00:09:07letter for you. From whom? From my master, King Charles. Why, you will take it. I will not lay a
00:09:15finger on it. But it is in no way in a fair estate. It expresses my master's admiration for the stand
00:09:22that you have taken over the so-called divorce of Queen Catherine. I have taken no stand. Well,
00:09:27no, Sir Thomas, but your views are well known. My views are much guessed at. Come, sir, could you
00:09:32undertake to convince King Harry that this letter is in no way in a fair estate? Oh, believe me,
00:09:37Sir Thomas, I have taken every precaution. I've come here very much incognito, very nearly in
00:09:42disguise. You misunderstand me, sir. It's not a matter of your precaution, but my duty, which would be to
00:09:48take that letter immediately to the King. But, Sir Thomas, your view. Now, well known, you say? Seems my
00:09:55loyalty to my King is less so. Look, Father. Will's getting more. Oh, well done. Well done. Oh, it's dry,
00:10:04too. It's bracken, Your Excellency. Let's burn it. Alice, look at this. I? Your Excellency, may I? This is a
00:10:15letter from the King of Spain. I want you to see it has not been opened. I have declined it. You see,
00:10:20the seal has not been broken. I wish I could ask you to stay, Your Excellency. The bracken fires are
00:10:25luxury. One I must forego. Come. May I say, I am sure my master's admiration will not be diminished.
00:10:40Luxury. Well, it is a luxury, while at last...
00:10:43I'm afraid there's not much sport in it for you, is there? Alice, that, uh, money from the bishops,
00:10:58I can't take it. I wish, heaven's how I wish I could, but I can't. I didn't think you would.
00:11:04Well, there are reasons, Alice. We couldn't come so deep into your confidences to know these reasons.
00:11:09Why a man in poverty can't take 4,000 pounds?
00:11:13This isn't poverty.
00:11:14You know what we're going to eat for dinner tonight?
00:11:16Yes, parsnips.
00:11:18Yes, parsnips. And a stinking mutton for a night's lady.
00:11:21Well, at the worst, we could be beggars and still keep company and be merry together.
00:11:26Ha ha. Merry.
00:11:28I'm merry.
00:11:29I think you should take that money.
00:11:32Don't you see if I'm paid by the church for my writings?
00:11:35Is it nothing to do with your writings? This was charity, pure and simple, collected from the clergy high and low.
00:11:41It would appear as payment.
00:11:43You're not a man who deals with appearances.
00:11:46How am I not, though?
00:11:47Now, if the king takes this any further, with me or with the church, it would be very bad if I even appear to have been in the pay of the church.
00:11:56Bad?
00:11:57If you will have it dangerous.
00:11:59You don't write against the king.
00:12:00I write. That's enough in times like these.
00:12:03But you said there was no danger.
00:12:04I don't think there is, and I don't want there to be.
00:12:07Sir Thomas, there's a gentleman here from Hampton Court.
00:12:11You're to go before Secretary Cromwell to answer certain charges.
00:12:15It's all right. We expected that.
00:12:19When?
00:12:20Now.
00:12:21Oh.
00:12:22Alice, that means nothing. That's just technique.
00:12:27Well, I suppose now means now.
00:12:31Will I come with you?
00:12:32Why?
00:12:33Oh, I'll be back for supper.
00:12:35I'll bring Cromwell back for supper, shall I?
00:12:37Ha ha ha.
00:12:38You don't serve him right.
00:12:39Oh, Father, don't be witty.
00:12:41Why not?
00:12:42Witt's what's in question.
00:12:44While we're witty, the devil may enter us unawares.
00:12:47Oh, he's not that devil, son Roper.
00:12:48He's a lawyer.
00:12:49In my case, he's watertight.
00:12:51You see, he's a very penetrating lawyer.
00:12:53Cromwell!
00:12:55He's a pragmatist.
00:12:57A mere mechanic.
00:13:11Sir Thomas.
00:13:24Sir Thomas.
00:13:24Richard.
00:13:25Richard.
00:13:36I'm sorry to invite you here at such short notice, Sir Thomas.
00:13:40It's good of you to come.
00:13:41Would you take a seat?
00:13:42I believe you know, Master Rich.
00:13:44Indeed, yes.
00:13:45We're all friends.
00:13:46That's a nice gown you have, Richard.
00:13:50Master Rich will make a record of our conversation.
00:13:55Good of you to tell me, Master Secretary.
00:13:57Believe me, Sir Thomas.
00:13:59No, that's asking too much.
00:14:01But let me tell you all the same.
00:14:04You have no more sincere admirer than myself.
00:14:08Not yet, Rich.
00:14:10Not yet.
00:14:13If I might hear the charges.
00:14:15Charges?
00:14:16I understand there are certain charges.
00:14:17Some ambiguities of behavior I should like to clarify.
00:14:21Hardly charges.
00:14:22Make a note of that, will you, Master Rich?
00:14:24There are no charges.
00:14:26Sir Thomas.
00:14:27Sir Thomas, you know.
00:14:28It amazes me that you, who were once so effective in the world
00:14:33and are now so much retired from it,
00:14:36should be opposing yourself against the whole movement of the times.
00:14:41It amazes me, too.
00:14:43The king is not pleased with you.
00:14:46I am grieved.
00:14:47And yet, do you know that even now,
00:14:50if you were able to bring yourself to agree with the bishops
00:14:52and the universities and the parliament of this realm,
00:14:55there is no honor that the king would be likely to deny you?
00:15:00I am well acquainted with his grace's generosity.
00:15:04Very well.
00:15:05You have heard of the so-called holy maid of Kent
00:15:12who was executed for prophesying against the king?
00:15:15Yes, I knew the poor woman.
00:15:18You sympathize with her?
00:15:20She was ignorant and misguided.
00:15:22She was a bit mad, I think,
00:15:24and she has paid for her folly.
00:15:25Naturally, I sympathize with her.
00:15:27You admit meeting her?
00:15:30You met her?
00:15:32And yet you did not warn his majesty of her treason?
00:15:35How was that?
00:15:36She spoke no treason.
00:15:37Now her conversation was not political.
00:15:39Oh, my dear Moore, the woman was notorious.
00:15:43You expect me to believe that?
00:15:45Happily, there are witnesses.
00:15:51You have been cautious.
00:15:54I like to keep my affairs regular.
00:15:56Sir Thomas, there is a more serious charge.
00:16:01Charge?
00:16:02For want of a better word.
00:16:04In the May of 1526,
00:16:08the king published a book,
00:16:10a theological work.
00:16:12It was entitled
00:16:14A Defense of the Seven Sacraments.
00:16:16Yes, for which he was named
00:16:18Defender of the Faith by His Holiness the Pope.
00:16:21By the Bishop of Rome,
00:16:22or do you insist on Pope?
00:16:24No, Bishop of Rome, if you like.
00:16:27It doesn't alter his authority.
00:16:30You've come to the point very readily.
00:16:31What is that authority
00:16:33with regard to the church in other parts of Europe,
00:16:36for example, the church in England?
00:16:38What exactly is the Bishop of Rome's authority?
00:16:42You will find it very ably set forth
00:16:44and defended, Master Secretary,
00:16:45in the king's book.
00:16:47The book published under the king's name
00:16:49would be more accurate.
00:16:51You wrote this book.
00:16:52I wrote no part of it.
00:16:54I do not mean that you actually held the pen.
00:16:57I nearly answered to the best of my ability
00:16:59certain questions on canon law
00:17:01which His Majesty put to me,
00:17:03as I was bound to do.
00:17:05Do you deny that you instigated it?
00:17:08It was from first to last the king's own project.
00:17:12This is trivial, Master Cromwell.
00:17:13Oh, I should not think so
00:17:15if I were in your place.
00:17:18Only two people know the truth of the matter,
00:17:21myself and the king.
00:17:22Whatever he may have said to you,
00:17:24he will not give evidence
00:17:25to support this accusation.
00:17:27Why not?
00:17:28Because evidence is given on oath
00:17:30and he will not perjure himself.
00:17:33If you don't know that,
00:17:35you don't yet know him.
00:17:43Sir Thomas More,
00:17:47is there anything that you wish to say to me
00:17:50concerning the king's marriage with Queen Anne?
00:17:53I understood I was not to be asked that again.
00:17:56Evidently, you understood wrongly.
00:17:58These charges...
00:18:00Are terrors for children, Master Cromwell, not me!
00:18:02I charge you with great ingratitude.
00:18:12I remind you of the many benefits
00:18:14graciously given and ill-received.
00:18:16I tell you that no king of England
00:18:18ever had nor could have
00:18:20so villainous a servant
00:18:21nor so traitorous a subject as yourself.
00:18:26These are not my words, Sir Thomas.
00:18:28They are the king's.
00:18:29Yes, I recognize the style.
00:18:37So, I am brought here at last.
00:18:40Brought?
00:18:41You brought yourself to where you are now.
00:18:44Yes.
00:18:46Still, in another sense, I was brought.
00:18:49Oh, yes.
00:18:50You may go home now.
00:18:55Or the present.
00:18:59I don't like him as well as I did.
00:19:10There's a man who raises a gale
00:19:12and won't come out of harbour.
00:19:14Do you still think that you can frighten him?
00:19:17Oh, yes.
00:19:18Well, what will you do now, then?
00:19:19Oh, be quiet, Rich.
00:19:20We'll do whatever's necessary.
00:19:22The king is a man of conscience.
00:19:25He wants either Sir Thomas More
00:19:26to bless his marriage
00:19:27or Sir Thomas More destroyed.
00:19:29Either will do.
00:19:31They seem odd alternatives, Secretary.
00:19:33Yeah, do they?
00:19:34That's because you are not a man of conscience.
00:19:37If the king destroys a man,
00:19:39that is proof to the king
00:19:40that it must have been a bad man.
00:19:42The kind of man a man of conscience
00:19:44ought to destroy.
00:19:45And, of course, a bad man's blessings
00:19:48is not worth having, so.
00:19:52Either will do.
00:19:54I see.
00:19:55Oh, there's no going back, Rich.
00:19:58I find we've made ourselves
00:19:59the keepers of this conscience.
00:20:03And it's ravenous.
00:20:04Boat!
00:20:13Boat!
00:20:14Boatman!
00:20:15Boat?
00:20:16Boatman!
00:20:18God.
00:20:20It can't be as bad as that.
00:20:23Boatman!
00:20:25Howard, I can't get home.
00:20:27They won't bring me a boat.
00:20:28You blaming them?
00:20:30It is as bad as that.
00:20:31It's every bit as bad as that.
00:20:33And it's good of you
00:20:34to be seen with me.
00:20:36I followed you.
00:20:37Were you followed?
00:20:39Probably.
00:20:41So listen to what I have to say.
00:20:43You're behaving like a fool.
00:20:45You're behaving like a quank.
00:20:47You're not behaving like a gentleman.
00:20:49All right.
00:20:50I know that means nothing to you,
00:20:51but what about your friends?
00:20:52What about...
00:20:52God damn it,
00:20:53you're dangerous to know!
00:20:55Then don't know me.
00:20:58Look, there's one thing, Father.
00:21:00You must have realized by now
00:21:02that there's a policy
00:21:04in regards to you.
00:21:05The king is using me in it.
00:21:09Oh, that's clever.
00:21:11That's Cromwell.
00:21:13You're between the upper
00:21:15and the nether millstones there.
00:21:16I am.
00:21:19Howard,
00:21:19you must cease to know me.
00:21:21I do know you.
00:21:22I wish to God I didn't,
00:21:24but I don't.
00:21:25I mean as a friend.
00:21:26You are my friend.
00:21:28I can't relieve you
00:21:29of your obedience to the king, Howard.
00:21:31You must relieve yourself
00:21:32of our friendship.
00:21:33No one is safe now.
00:21:34You have a son.
00:21:36You might just as well advise a man
00:21:37to change the color of his hair.
00:21:40I'm front of you
00:21:41and there it is.
00:21:41You're front of me
00:21:42and there it is.
00:21:43What's to be done then?
00:21:45Give in.
00:21:46I can't give in.
00:21:49You might as well advise a man
00:21:50to change the color of his eyes.
00:21:52I can't, Howard.
00:21:53Our friendship's more mutable than that.
00:21:56Oh, so the one fixed point
00:21:58in a world of changing friendships
00:22:00is that Thomas More
00:22:01will not give in.
00:22:03For me it has to be.
00:22:04That's myself.
00:22:06Affection runs as deep in me
00:22:07as you, I think.
00:22:08But only God is love right through, Howard.
00:22:11That's myself.
00:22:12And who are you?
00:22:13Oh, damn it, man.
00:22:16It's disproportionate.
00:22:17We're supposed to be
00:22:18the arrogant ones,
00:22:19the proud, splenetic ones,
00:22:21and we've all given in.
00:22:22Why must you stand out?
00:22:29You'll break my heart.
00:22:33Let's do it now, Howard.
00:22:36We'll part his friends
00:22:37and meet his strangers.
00:22:39Daft, Thomas.
00:22:40Why do you want to take
00:22:41your friendship from me?
00:22:42For friendship's sake?
00:22:45You say we'll meet as strangers
00:22:46and every word you say
00:22:48confirms our friendship.
00:22:49That can be remedied.
00:22:51I don't think you are a fool.
00:22:55You can't place a quarrel
00:22:57you have at that style.
00:22:58No, no, hear me out.
00:23:00You and your class
00:23:01have given in,
00:23:02as you rightly call it,
00:23:03because the religion
00:23:03of this country
00:23:04means nothing to you
00:23:05one way or the other.
00:23:06That's a foolish saying
00:23:08for a start.
00:23:09The nobility of England
00:23:10The nobility of England,
00:23:11my lord,
00:23:12would have snored
00:23:12through the sermon
00:23:13on the mount.
00:23:15Yet you labor like saints
00:23:17over some rat dog's pedigree.
00:23:19What's the name
00:23:20of those distorted creatures
00:23:22you're all breeding
00:23:22at the moment?
00:23:23An artificial quarrel
00:23:24is not a quarrel.
00:23:26Don't deceive yourself,
00:23:27my lord.
00:23:27We've had a quarrel
00:23:28since the day we met.
00:23:29You can be cruel
00:23:31when you have a mind to me.
00:23:33But I've always known that.
00:23:34Hey, what do you call
00:23:35those dogs, though?
00:23:36Marsh, mastiffs,
00:23:38bog, beagles?
00:23:39Water, spaniels.
00:23:41What would you do
00:23:42with a water spaniel
00:23:43that was afraid of water?
00:23:44You'd drown it!
00:23:45Well, as a spaniel is to water,
00:23:48so is a man to his own self.
00:23:50I will not give in
00:23:51because I oppose it.
00:23:52I do.
00:23:53Not my pride,
00:23:53not my spleen,
00:23:54nor any other
00:23:55of my appetites,
00:23:56but I do.
00:23:57I!
00:23:58Is there no single sinew
00:24:03in the midst of this
00:24:04that serves no appetite
00:24:05of Norfolk's
00:24:06but is just Norfolk?
00:24:07There is.
00:24:09Give that some exercise,
00:24:10my lord.
00:24:10Thomas!
00:24:12Because as you stand,
00:24:14you'll go before your maker
00:24:15in a very ill condition.
00:24:17Steady, Thomas.
00:24:18And you'll have to think
00:24:19that somewhere back
00:24:20along your pedigree
00:24:21a bitch got over the wall.
00:24:22Oh!
00:24:28Father, what was that?
00:24:38That was Norfolk.
00:24:40Do you know, sir?
00:24:41Have you heard?
00:24:43What?
00:24:44Have you told him?
00:24:45We've been looking for you, father.
00:24:47There's to be a new act
00:24:47through Parliament, sir.
00:24:49Act?
00:24:49Yes, sir.
00:24:49About the marriage.
00:24:50Father, by this act
00:24:52they're going to administer
00:24:54an oath.
00:24:55An oath?
00:24:57On what compulsion?
00:24:58It's expected to be treason.
00:25:00What is the oath?
00:25:01It's about the marriage, sir.
00:25:03What is the wording?
00:25:04We don't need to know
00:25:05the wording.
00:25:05We know what it'll mean.
00:25:06It'll mean what the words say.
00:25:08An oath is made of words.
00:25:09It may be possible
00:25:09to take it
00:25:10and to avoid it.
00:25:11If I can, I will.
00:25:12Do we have a copy of the bill?
00:25:13There's one coming out
00:25:14from the city.
00:25:15Oh, that's...
00:25:16Oh.
00:25:17I've no boat.
00:25:18Oh, father, he hit you.
00:25:20Yes, I spoke slidingly
00:25:23of water spaniels.
00:25:26Come on.
00:25:26But, sir...
00:25:27Will, you listen.
00:25:29God made the angels
00:25:30to show him splendor.
00:25:31What man he made
00:25:32to serve him wittily
00:25:34in the tangle of his mind.
00:25:37Our natural business
00:25:38lies in escaping.
00:25:40So let's get home
00:25:41and study this bill.
00:25:43Now, look.
00:26:10Jailor.
00:26:11It's a job.
00:26:14The pay scale
00:26:15being what it is,
00:26:16they get a rather common
00:26:17type of man
00:26:17in the prison service,
00:26:18but it's a job
00:26:19like any other job.
00:26:21A bit nearer
00:26:22than up to the most,
00:26:22perhaps.
00:26:25But it's a job.
00:26:27I don't suppose
00:26:27anyone enjoyed it
00:26:28any more than he did.
00:26:30Well, not much more.
00:26:32They'd have let him out
00:26:32if they could,
00:26:33but for various reasons,
00:26:35they can't.
00:26:35I'd have let him out
00:26:37if I could,
00:26:37but I can't.
00:26:38Not without taking up
00:26:39residence in there myself.
00:26:41And if he's in there already,
00:26:43what's the point?
00:26:44The old Addy says,
00:26:46better a live rat
00:26:47than a dead lion.
00:26:49Sir Thomas,
00:26:50wake up.
00:26:50Oh, not again.
00:26:58Sorry, sir.
00:26:59Oh, what time is it?
00:27:01One o'clock, sir.
00:27:02Oh, this is iniquity.
00:27:06Sir.
00:27:08Who's there?
00:27:09The secretary,
00:27:10the duke,
00:27:10and the archbishop.
00:27:12I'm flattered.
00:27:13The seat for the prisoner.
00:27:26Do the witnesses attend?
00:27:28Oh, sir, secretary.
00:27:28Right, stand together.
00:27:30This is the seventh commission
00:27:32to inquire into the case
00:27:33of Sir Thomas More,
00:27:35appointed by His Majesty's Council.
00:27:36Do you have anything to say?
00:27:38No.
00:27:39Sir, secretary.
00:27:40Sir Thomas.
00:27:43You have seen this document before?
00:27:46Many times.
00:27:47It is the act of succession.
00:27:48These are the names
00:27:49of those who have sworn to it.
00:27:51I have, as you say,
00:27:52seen it before.
00:27:54Will you swear to it?
00:27:56No.
00:27:57Thomas, we must know plainly.
00:27:58Your grace, please.
00:28:00I'm trying to...
00:28:01Master Cromwell!
00:28:04I beg your gracious pardon.
00:28:08Thomas, we must know plainly
00:28:10whether you recognize
00:28:12the offspring of Queen Anne
00:28:14as heirs to His Majesty.
00:28:15The king in Parliament
00:28:16tells me that they are.
00:28:17Of course I recognize them.
00:28:19Will you swear that you do?
00:28:21Yes.
00:28:21Then why can't you swear to the act?
00:28:24Because there is more than that
00:28:26in the act.
00:28:29Is that it?
00:28:32Yes.
00:28:33Let's find out what it is
00:28:34in the act that he objects to.
00:28:37Brilliant.
00:28:37Oh, God's wounds!
00:28:39Your grace, may I try?
00:28:42Sir, I have no pretensions
00:28:44to be an expert in police work.
00:28:47Sir Thomas, it states in the preamble
00:28:50that the king's former marriage
00:28:51to the Lady Catherine was unlawful,
00:28:53she being previously his brother's wife,
00:28:56and the Pope having no authority
00:28:59to sanction it.
00:29:00Is that what you deny?
00:29:01Is that what you dispute?
00:29:07Is that what you are not sure of?
00:29:14Thomas, you insult the king
00:29:16and his counsel
00:29:17in the person of the Lord Archbishop.
00:29:19I insult no one.
00:29:20I will not take the oath.
00:29:21I will not tell you why I will not.
00:29:23Then your reasons must be treasonable.
00:29:25Not must be.
00:29:27Maybe.
00:29:28It's a fair assumption.
00:29:29The law requires more than an assumption.
00:29:31The law requires a fact.
00:29:35I cannot judge your legal standing in the case,
00:29:38but until I know the ground of your objections,
00:29:40I can only guess your spiritual standing, too.
00:29:44If you're willing to guess it,
00:29:45that's your grace.
00:29:45It should be a small matter
00:29:47to guess it, my objections.
00:29:48You do have objections to the act.
00:29:51Oh, we know that, Bromwell.
00:29:54You don't, your Lord.
00:29:55You may suppose I have objections.
00:29:56All you know is that I will not swear.
00:29:59From sheer delight to give you trouble,
00:30:01it might be.
00:30:02Is it material why you want?
00:30:04No, it's most material.
00:30:06For refusing to swear,
00:30:07my goods are forfeited
00:30:08and I am condemned to life imprisonment.
00:30:10You cannot lawfully harm me further.
00:30:13But if you were right
00:30:14in supposing I had reasons for refusing,
00:30:17and right again in supposing
00:30:18those reasons to be treasonable,
00:30:20the law would let you cut my head off.
00:30:22Oh, yes.
00:30:26Oh, well done, Sir Thomas.
00:30:27I've been trying to make that clear
00:30:29to his grace for some time.
00:30:31I've found all this.
00:30:33I've no, I'm no scholar,
00:30:35as Master Cromwell never ceases to remind me.
00:30:38And frankly, I don't know whether
00:30:40the marriage is legal or not.
00:30:43But damn it, Thomas, look at those knaves.
00:30:45Why can't you do what I did
00:30:47and come with us to fellowship?
00:30:51And when we stand before God
00:30:53and you are sent to paradise
00:30:54for doing according to your conscience,
00:30:57and I am damned for not doing according to mine,
00:31:00will you come with me for fellowship?
00:31:06So those of us whose names are there
00:31:08are damned, Sir Thomas?
00:31:10I don't know, Your Grace.
00:31:12I've no window to look into another man's soul.
00:31:14I condemn no one.
00:31:16No, I will not, Sir.
00:31:18Then you have more regard to your own doubt
00:31:20than you have to the King's command.
00:31:22For myself, I have no doubt at all.
00:31:24No doubt?
00:31:25Of what?
00:31:27No doubt of my reasons for refusing this oath.
00:31:29Reasons I will reveal to the King alone
00:31:31in which you, Master Cromwell,
00:31:33will not trick out of me.
00:31:35Thomas!
00:31:36My gentleman, can't I go to bed?
00:31:38You don't seem to appreciate
00:31:39the seriousness of your position.
00:31:41I defy any man to live in that hole for a year
00:31:44and not appreciate the seriousness of his position.
00:31:46Yet the state has harsher punishments.
00:31:48You threaten like a dockside bully.
00:31:50How should I threaten?
00:31:51Like a minister of state with justice.
00:31:53Oh, justice is what you're threatened with.
00:31:57Then I'm not threatened.
00:31:59Master Cromwell.
00:32:01I think the prisoner may retire, as he requests.
00:32:08Unless you, my lord...
00:32:09No, no.
00:32:10I see no purpose in prolonging the interview.
00:32:12Oh, yes.
00:32:19Thomas.
00:32:21Good night.
00:32:22Oh, might I have one or two more books?
00:32:34You have books?
00:32:36Yes.
00:32:38I didn't know.
00:32:39You shouldn't have.
00:32:40I don't know.
00:32:40You shouldn't have.
00:32:52May I see my family?
00:32:54Now.
00:33:04Yes, sir.
00:33:06Sir.
00:33:08Have you ever heard the prisoner speak of the king's divorce
00:33:12or the king's supremacy of the church or the king's marriage?
00:33:15No, sir.
00:33:15It's not a word.
00:33:16If you do, you will, of course, report it to the lieutenant.
00:33:18Well, of course.
00:33:19You will swear an oath to that effect.
00:33:21Certainly, sir.
00:33:22Archbishop.
00:33:23Place your left hand here.
00:33:25Raise your right hand.
00:33:26Take your hat off!
00:33:29Now, stay after me.
00:33:31I swear by my immortal soul...
00:33:32I swear by my immortal soul...
00:33:34...that I will report truly...
00:33:35...that I will report truly...
00:33:35...anything said by Sir Thomas More...
00:33:37...anything said by Sir Thomas More...
00:33:38...against the king, the council...
00:33:40...the state of the realm...
00:33:41...so help me, God, amen.
00:33:43And there's 50 guineas in it, if you do.
00:33:46That's not to tempt you into perjury, my man.
00:33:51Oh, no.
00:33:5450 guineas isn't tempting.
00:33:5650 guineas is alarming.
00:33:57If they'd left it a swearing, but 50...
00:33:59...that's serious money.
00:34:00If it's worth that now, it's worth my neck presently.
00:34:03I want no part of it.
00:34:04Let them sort it out between them.
00:34:06I feel my deafness coming on.
00:34:07Ridge.
00:34:08Secretary.
00:34:08Tomorrow morning, remove the prisoner's books.
00:34:12Is that necessary?
00:34:13Nor, Perkins.
00:34:14With regards to this case, the king is becoming impatient.
00:34:18Aye.
00:34:19With you.
00:34:20With all of us.
00:34:21And you know the king's impatience.
00:34:24How commodious it is.
00:34:33Secretary.
00:34:34Yes.
00:34:34Sir Reddler's Llewellyn has retired.
00:34:38What?
00:34:39The attorney general for Wales.
00:34:41His post is vacant.
00:34:42You said that I might approach you.
00:34:43You're not.
00:34:44Now, Ridge.
00:34:47I must submit.
00:34:49The alternatives are bad.
00:34:50While Moore's alive, the king's conscience breaks into fresh, stinking flowers.
00:34:54Every time he gets him, he's bad.
00:34:56And if I bring about Moore's death, I plant my own, I think.
00:35:02There's no other good solution.
00:35:05He must submit.
00:35:07Wake up, Sir Thomas.
00:35:18Huh?
00:35:19Oh.
00:35:20Your family's here.
00:35:22Huh?
00:35:23Who's?
00:35:24Oh, Margaret.
00:35:29Father.
00:35:30Let me out of this.
00:35:31Let me out.
00:35:32Yes, I'm allowed to let you out.
00:35:39Good morning, sir.
00:35:40Oh, good morning.
00:35:42Good morning, Margaret.
00:35:44Good morning.
00:35:47Good morning.
00:35:48My God, Meg, they've not put you in here, too?
00:35:51No, sir.
00:35:51Just a visit.
00:35:52A short visit.
00:35:59Hellish.
00:36:02How'd you do?
00:36:06As well as need be.
00:36:08I'm very happy now.
00:36:10Well.
00:36:11This is an awful place.
00:36:13Oh, it's not so bad, except for keeping me from you, my dears.
00:36:18It's remarkably like any other place.
00:36:22Drips.
00:36:22Yeah, it's too near the river.
00:36:29We've brought you some things.
00:36:30Oh.
00:36:30Some cheese.
00:36:34Oh, cheese.
00:36:35And a custard.
00:36:36And a custard.
00:36:37And a bottle of wine.
00:36:39Oh.
00:36:42Is it good, son?
00:36:43I don't know, sir.
00:36:47Well.
00:36:48Sir, come out.
00:37:01Swear to the act.
00:37:03Take the oath and come out.
00:37:06Oh, dear.
00:37:09Is that why they let you come visit me?
00:37:12Yes.
00:37:12Meg's under oath to persuade you.
00:37:16That was very silly, Meg.
00:37:18How did you come to do that?
00:37:20I wanted to.
00:37:23You want me to swear to the act of succession?
00:37:26God more regards the thoughts of the heart than the words of the mouth.
00:37:30Or so you've always told me.
00:37:31And say the words of the oath.
00:37:33But in your heart, think otherwise.
00:37:36Now, what is an oath, then, but words we say to God?
00:37:38Oh, that's very neat.
00:37:39You mean it isn't true?
00:37:42No, it's true.
00:37:44Well, then it's a poor argument to call it neat.
00:37:47Meg, when a man takes an oath, he holds his own self in his two hands.
00:37:53It's like water.
00:37:56If he opens his fingers, he needn't look to find himself again.
00:38:00Some men aren't capable of this.
00:38:02I think you'd be sorry to find your father one of them.
00:38:07In any state that was half good, you would be raised up high.
00:38:11Not here for what you've done already.
00:38:13It's not your fault the state's three quarters bad.
00:38:15No.
00:38:16Then if you elect to suffer for it, you elect yourself a hero.
00:38:21Oh, now that is very neat.
00:38:22Now, but look, if we lived in a state where virtue was profitable,
00:38:26common sense would make us good and greed would make us saintly, huh?
00:38:30We'd all live like animals or angels in a happy land that needs no heroes.
00:38:35But since, in fact, we find that we have to choose to be human at all,
00:38:42then perhaps we must stand fast a little, even at the risk of being heroes.
00:38:47What reason?
00:38:49Haven't you done as much as God can reasonably want?
00:38:52Finally, it isn't a question of reason.
00:38:54Finally, it's a question of love.
00:38:56Then you're content to stay here, should look with mice and rats,
00:39:01when you might be home with us.
00:39:03Content?
00:39:05If they'd open a crack that wide, I'd be through it like a bird in home.
00:39:09Well, has Eve run out of apples, then?
00:39:16I've not yet told you what the house is like without you.
00:39:19Don't, Meg.
00:39:21What we do in the evenings now that you're not there.
00:39:25Meg, have done.
00:39:26We sit in the dark because we've no candles.
00:39:31And we've no talk because we're wondering what they're doing to you here.
00:39:36Now, the king's more merciful than you.
00:39:38He doesn't use the rack.
00:39:40Two minutes to go, sir.
00:39:42I thought you'd like to know.
00:39:43Two minutes?
00:39:43Until seven o'clock, sir.
00:39:45Sorry, two minutes.
00:39:46Jailor?
00:39:47Jailor?
00:39:48Jailor?
00:39:49Will, go to me.
00:39:53Talk to me.
00:39:54Keep him occupied.
00:39:55How, sir?
00:39:55Well, anyhow, do you have any money?
00:39:58Yes.
00:39:58Now, wait.
00:39:58Don't try to bribe him.
00:40:00Let him pay for it.
00:40:01He's got a pair of dice in it.
00:40:02Talk to him.
00:40:03You understand?
00:40:04Wait.
00:40:05Here.
00:40:06Take the wine.
00:40:07Then mind you, share it, Will.
00:40:09Do it properly now.
00:40:14You must leave the country.
00:40:16All of you must leave the country at once.
00:40:18I'll leave you here.
00:40:19It makes no difference, Meg.
00:40:21They won't let you see me again.
00:40:23You must leave it the same day, but not the same boat.
00:40:25Different boats from different ports.
00:40:27What's of a trial, then?
00:40:28There'll be no trial.
00:40:29They have no case.
00:40:31Do this for me.
00:40:32I beseech you.
00:40:36Yes.
00:40:37Alice.
00:40:39Alice, I command you.
00:40:43Right.
00:40:45Right.
00:40:46This is splendid.
00:40:52I know who packed this.
00:40:54I packed it.
00:40:55Yes.
00:40:55You do make such a cruelty of custard, Alice.
00:41:01Right.
00:41:04That's a nice dress you've got on.
00:41:07That's my cooking dress.
00:41:08Well, it's very nice anyway, sir.
00:41:11Nice colour.
00:41:12By God, you think very little of me.
00:41:16I know I'm a fool.
00:41:17And I'm no such fool as in a time like this to be lamented from my dresses or to relish
00:41:22being complimented on my custard.
00:41:23I am faint when I think of the worst that they may do to me.
00:41:38But worse than that would be to go with you not understanding why I go.
00:41:44I don't.
00:41:46Alice, if you tell me that you understand, I think I can make a good death if I have to.
00:41:52Your death's no good to me.
00:41:53Alice, you must tell me that you understand.
00:41:56I don't.
00:41:57I don't believe it had to happen.
00:41:59If you say that, Alice, I don't see how I'm to face it.
00:42:03That's the truth.
00:42:04You're an honest woman.
00:42:07Well, she couldn't make it to me.
00:42:09I'll tell you what I'm afraid of, that when you're gone, I'll hate you for it.
00:42:13Well, you mustn't, Alice, that's all.
00:42:16You simply mustn't.
00:42:19Oh, it's for understanding.
00:42:37I understand this, that you're the best man I've ever met, and I may the like be to.
00:42:41And if you do go, well, God knows why, I suppose.
00:42:45Oh, it's God's my witness.
00:42:46God's got deathly quiet about it.
00:42:48And if anyone wants my opinion about the king and his counsel, all they've got to do is ask me for it.
00:42:56Why, it's a lion I marry.
00:43:01A lion.
00:43:06You know, you must get them to take some of that custard to Bishop Fisher.
00:43:12He's in the upper gallery.
00:43:13I made it for you.
00:43:14I didn't make it for Bishop Fisher.
00:43:16Can't you do as I ask?
00:43:18Can you say what you like?
00:43:22That's good custard.
00:43:24It's very, very good.
00:43:27No good, sir.
00:43:28I know what you're up to, and it can't be done.
00:43:29Another minute, ma'am.
00:43:30Sorry, sir.
00:43:31Time's up.
00:43:32For pity, sir.
00:43:32Don't do that, sir.
00:43:34Sir Thomas, the ledgers will have to go now.
00:43:36You said seven o'clock.
00:43:38It's seven o'clock now, sir.
00:43:39You must understand my position.
00:43:40One minute more.
00:43:41Just a little while, just a little while.
00:43:43Now then, miss, you don't want to get me into trouble.
00:43:45Don't do as it at all.
00:43:46Don't be up at once.
00:43:47Now, come along, miss.
00:43:48You get your father into trouble as well as me.
00:43:50Are you obstructing me, sir?
00:43:51Now then, m'lady, no trouble.
00:44:00Don't you.
00:44:00Oh, you take your muddy hands off me.
00:44:03I'm going to call the guard, then.
00:44:04Then come on.
00:44:05For God's sake, man, we're saying goodbye.
00:44:07You don't know what you're asking, sir.
00:44:08You don't know how you're watched.
00:44:09You filthy, stinking, gutter-brick, tonke.
00:44:13Call me what you like, ma'am.
00:44:14You've got to go.
00:44:15I'll make you suffer for this.
00:44:16You're doing your husband no good.
00:44:18Alice, goodbye.
00:44:25Never.
00:44:46You understand my position, sir.
00:44:50There's nothing I can do.
00:44:52I'm a plain, simple man.
00:44:53Just want to keep out of trouble.
00:44:56Sweet Jesus!
00:45:02These plain, simple men.
00:45:04These plain, simple men.
00:45:34Where are you going?
00:45:53Well, I'm, uh, I'm finished here, sir.
00:45:55You're foreman of the jury.
00:45:57Oh, no!
00:46:00Foreman of the jury.
00:46:02Just a cap pit.
00:46:03Come on in, be upstanding.
00:46:15It's Greece, the Duke of Norfolk.
00:46:17Earl Marshal of England.
00:46:19Come on.
00:46:19Come on.
00:46:33Call the prisoner.
00:46:38Bring in the prisoner.
00:46:40Bring in the prisoner.
00:46:40Mr. Thomas Moore,
00:47:09you have been called before us here in the Great Hall of Westminster
00:47:13to answer charge of high treason.
00:47:16Nevertheless, and though you have grievously offended the King's Majesty,
00:47:22we hope that you will even now forethink and repent your obstinate opinions.
00:47:27You may still taste his gracious pardon.
00:47:31My lords, I thank you.
00:47:33Howbeit I pray God will keep me in this,
00:47:36my honest mind to the last hour I shall live.
00:47:40As for the matters you may charge me with,
00:47:42I fear owing to my present weakness
00:47:45that neither my wit nor my memory will serve to make sufficient answer.
00:47:49I should be glad to sit down.
00:47:52Be seated.
00:47:53Master Secretary Cromwell, have you the charge?
00:47:56I have, my lord.
00:47:58Then read the charge.
00:47:59That you did conspire traitorously and maliciously
00:48:05to deny and deprive our liege Lord Henry
00:48:08of his undoubted certain title,
00:48:11Supreme Head of the Church of England.
00:48:13I have never denied this title.
00:48:15You refused the oath when tendered you at the Tower and elsewhere.
00:48:19Silence is not denial.
00:48:20For my silence I am punished with imprisonment.
00:48:23Why have I been called again?
00:48:25Once a charge of high treason, Sir Thomas.
00:48:27For which the punishment is not imprisonment.
00:48:34Death comes for us all, my lords.
00:48:37Yes, even for kings he comes.
00:48:39Amidst their royalty and strength
00:48:41he will not kneel nor make them any reverence,
00:48:43but roughly grasp them by the throat
00:48:45and rattle them till they be stocked dead.
00:48:47Treason enough here?
00:48:57The death of kings is not in question, Sir Thomas.
00:49:01Now mine I trust until I'm proven guilty.
00:49:03Your life lies in your own hands, Thomas,
00:49:06as it always has.
00:49:09And so, Sir Thomas,
00:49:11you stand upon your silence.
00:49:14I do.
00:49:15But, gentlemen of the jury,
00:49:20there are many kinds of silence.
00:49:24Consider first the silence of a man
00:49:26when he is dead.
00:49:29Let us say we go into a room
00:49:31where he is lying
00:49:32and let us say
00:49:32it is the dead of night.
00:49:35There's nothing like darkness
00:49:36for sharpening the ear.
00:49:38And we listen.
00:49:39What do we hear?
00:49:40Silence.
00:49:41What does it betoken, this silence?
00:49:44Nothing.
00:49:45This is silence pure and simple.
00:49:48But consider another case.
00:49:50Suppose I were
00:49:51to draw a dagger from my sleeve
00:49:54and make to kill the prisoner with it.
00:49:57And suppose their lordships here,
00:50:00instead of crying out for me to stop
00:50:02or crying out for help to stop me,
00:50:05maintained their silence.
00:50:08That would betoken.
00:50:10That would betoken
00:50:11a willingness that I should do it.
00:50:14And under the law,
00:50:15they would be guilty with me.
00:50:20So silence can,
00:50:22according to circumstances,
00:50:24speak.
00:50:24Consider now
00:50:26the circumstances
00:50:28of the prisoner's silence.
00:50:30The oath was put
00:50:31to good and faithful subjects
00:50:33up and down the country
00:50:34and they declared
00:50:36his grace's title
00:50:37to be just and good.
00:50:39Yet when he came to the prisoner,
00:50:41he refused.
00:50:43He calls this silence.
00:50:45But is there a man in this court?
00:50:48Is there a man in this country
00:50:49who does not know
00:50:52Sir Thomas More's opinion
00:50:54of this title?
00:50:55Of course not.
00:50:57How can this be?
00:50:58Because this silence betokened,
00:51:01nay, this silence was,
00:51:04not silence at all,
00:51:06but a most eloquent denial.
00:51:08Not so, Master Secretary.
00:51:10The maxim is quittocit consentere.
00:51:12The maxim of the law
00:51:14is silence gives consent.
00:51:16If therefore you wish to know
00:51:17what my silence betokened you,
00:51:19must construe that I consented,
00:51:21not that I denied.
00:51:22Is that in fact
00:51:23what the world
00:51:24construes from it?
00:51:26Do you pretend
00:51:27that that is what you wish
00:51:28the world to construe from it?
00:51:30The world must construe
00:51:31according to its wits.
00:51:33This court must construe
00:51:34according to the law.
00:51:35I put it to the court.
00:51:37The prisoner
00:51:37is perverting the law,
00:51:40making smoky
00:51:41what should be a clear light
00:51:43to discover to the court
00:51:45his own wrongdoing.
00:51:46The law is not a light
00:51:47for you or any man
00:51:48to see by.
00:51:49The law is not an instrument
00:51:50of any kind.
00:51:52The law is a causeway
00:51:53upon which so long
00:51:54as he keep to it
00:51:55the citizen may walk safely.
00:51:57It matters of the conscience,
00:51:58the conscience,
00:51:59the conscience.
00:52:01The word is not familiar to you?
00:52:03By God, too familiar.
00:52:05I'm very used to hearing it
00:52:06in the mouths of criminals.
00:52:08I'm used to hear bad men
00:52:09misuse the name of God,
00:52:11yet God exists.
00:52:12It matters of the conscience.
00:52:13The loyal subject
00:52:14is bound more to be loyal
00:52:16to his conscience
00:52:16than to any other thing.
00:52:18And so provide a noble motive
00:52:20for his frivolous self-conceit.
00:52:22Not so, Master Cromwell,
00:52:24but for my own soul.
00:52:25Your own self, you mean?
00:52:27Yes, a man's soul is his self.
00:52:28A miserable thing,
00:52:30whatever you call it,
00:52:31that lives like a bat
00:52:32in a Sunday school,
00:52:33a shrill, incessant pedagogue
00:52:35about its own salvation,
00:52:37but nothing to say
00:52:38about your place
00:52:39in the state,
00:52:41under the king,
00:52:42in a great native country.
00:52:44Is it my place
00:52:45to say yes
00:52:46to the state's sickness?
00:52:47Can I help my king
00:52:48by giving him lies
00:52:49when he asks for truth?
00:52:51Will you help England
00:52:52by populating her
00:52:53with liars?
00:53:00My lords,
00:53:01silence!
00:53:03Silence!
00:53:07My lords,
00:53:08I should like to call
00:53:11Sir Richard Rich.
00:53:16Call Sir Richard Rich.
00:53:19Call Sir Richard Rich!
00:53:21Call Sir Richard Rich!
00:53:38I do solemnly swear
00:53:43that the evidence
00:53:44I do solemnly swear
00:53:45that the evidence
00:53:46that I shall give
00:53:47before the court
00:53:48shall be the truth,
00:53:49the whole truth,
00:53:50and nothing but the truth.
00:53:53So help me God,
00:53:55Sir Richard.
00:53:59So help me God!
00:54:04Take your stand there,
00:54:05Sir Richard.
00:54:06Now, Rich,
00:54:13on the 12th of March
00:54:15you were at the tower.
00:54:17I was.
00:54:18With what purpose?
00:54:19I was sent
00:54:20to carry away
00:54:21the prisoner's books.
00:54:22And did you
00:54:23speak with the prisoner?
00:54:25Yes.
00:54:25And did you speak
00:54:26of the king's supremacy
00:54:29of the church?
00:54:31Yes.
00:54:31What did you say?
00:54:36I said to him,
00:54:38supposing there was
00:54:39an act of parliament
00:54:40to say that I,
00:54:42Richard Rich,
00:54:42were to become king,
00:54:44would not you,
00:54:45Master Moore,
00:54:45take me for king?
00:54:47Well, that I would,
00:54:48he said,
00:54:48for then you would be king.
00:54:52Yes.
00:54:53Then he said,
00:54:54The prisoner?
00:54:54Yes, my lord.
00:54:58Hmm.
00:54:59But I will put you
00:55:00a higher case.
00:55:02How,
00:55:02if there were
00:55:02an act of parliament
00:55:03to say that God
00:55:04should not be God?
00:55:06This is true.
00:55:06Then you said silence.
00:55:09Continue.
00:55:10I said,
00:55:11but I will put you
00:55:13a middle case.
00:55:15Parliament has made
00:55:16our king
00:55:16the head of the church.
00:55:18Why will you
00:55:19not accept him?
00:55:19Well?
00:55:25Then he said,
00:55:26that parliament
00:55:29had no power
00:55:29to do it.
00:55:32Repeat the prisoner's
00:55:33words.
00:55:34He said that parliament
00:55:35has not the competence
00:55:36or words to that effect.
00:55:40He denied the title.
00:55:45He did.
00:55:49You've got faith,
00:55:53Rich.
00:55:55I am sorrier
00:55:56for your perjury
00:55:57than my peril.
00:55:59You denied it?
00:56:00Yes.
00:56:02The lords,
00:56:02if I were a man
00:56:03who heeded not
00:56:04the taking of an oath,
00:56:05you know well
00:56:06I had no need
00:56:07to be here.
00:56:08Now I will
00:56:09take an oath.
00:56:10If what
00:56:11Master Rich
00:56:12has said
00:56:12is true,
00:56:13I pray
00:56:14I may never
00:56:15see God
00:56:15in the face
00:56:16which I would not
00:56:16say were it otherwise
00:56:17for anything on earth.
00:56:18That is not the evidence.
00:56:21Is it probable
00:56:22that after so long
00:56:23as silence
00:56:23I missed the very point
00:56:24so urgently sought of me
00:56:26I should open my mind
00:56:28to such a man as that?
00:56:29Do you wish
00:56:30to modify
00:56:31your statement, Rich?
00:56:32No, Secretary.
00:56:33There were two other men,
00:56:34Southwell and Palmer.
00:56:36Unhappily,
00:56:37Sir Richard Southwell
00:56:38and Master Palmer
00:56:39are in Ireland
00:56:40on the King's affair.
00:56:42But you...
00:56:42It has no bearing.
00:56:43I have their deposition here
00:56:45in which the court
00:56:46will see they state
00:56:47that being busy
00:56:48with the prisoners' books
00:56:50that they did not hear
00:56:52what was said.
00:56:53But if I had said that
00:56:54he would instantly
00:56:55have called these men
00:56:56to witness.
00:56:57Do you have anything
00:56:58further to add, Rich?
00:57:00Nothing,
00:57:01Master Secretary.
00:57:02Sir Thomas.
00:57:05To what purpose?
00:57:07I'm a dead man.
00:57:08You have your desire
00:57:11of me.
00:57:13But it is not my actions
00:57:14you've hunted me for,
00:57:16but the thoughts
00:57:17of my heart.
00:57:20That's a long road
00:57:21you've opened.
00:57:22For first men
00:57:23will deny their hearts,
00:57:24then presently
00:57:25they will have no hearts.
00:57:28God help the people
00:57:29whose statesmen
00:57:30walk your road.
00:57:31And the witness
00:57:37may withdraw.
00:57:42I have
00:57:43one question
00:57:44to ask the witness.
00:57:47That's a chain
00:57:48of office you're wearing.
00:57:50Now see it.
00:57:57The red dragon.
00:57:58What's this?
00:57:59Sir Richard is appointed
00:58:02Attorney General
00:58:03for Wales.
00:58:05For Wales?
00:58:07Why, Richard,
00:58:08it profits a man
00:58:09nothing to give his soul
00:58:11for the whole world,
00:58:12but for Wales.
00:58:19And now,
00:58:21I'd like to beg
00:58:22the court's indulgence
00:58:23for one moment.
00:58:25I have a message
00:58:25for the prisoner
00:58:26from the king.
00:58:29Sir Thomas,
00:58:31I am in power
00:58:32to tell you
00:58:33that even now
00:58:34we don't...
00:58:34No, no,
00:58:35it cannot be.
00:58:42The case rest,
00:58:43my lord.
00:58:46The jury may retire
00:58:47and consider the evidence.
00:58:49Considering the evidence,
00:58:50it shouldn't be necessary
00:58:51for them to retire.
00:58:52Is it necessary?
00:59:00No, sir.
00:59:02Do you find the prisoner
00:59:03guilty or not guilty?
00:59:13Guilty, my lord.
00:59:14Prisoner at the bar,
00:59:24you've been found
00:59:25guilty of high treason.
00:59:28The sentence of the court...
00:59:29My lord.
00:59:30My lord,
00:59:31when I was practicing
00:59:32the law,
00:59:33the manner was
00:59:34to ask the prisoner
00:59:35before pronouncing sentence
00:59:36if he had anything to say.
00:59:39Do you have anything to say?
00:59:40Yes.
00:59:51To avoid this,
00:59:52I've taken every path
00:59:53my wits could find
00:59:55now that this court
00:59:57is determined
00:59:57to condemn me.
00:59:58God knoweth how.
00:59:59I will discharge
01:00:02my mind
01:00:03concerning my indictment
01:00:05and the king's title.
01:00:09The indictment
01:00:10is founded
01:00:11on an act of parliament
01:00:12which is directly
01:00:13repugnant
01:00:14to the law of God.
01:00:16Parliament cannot
01:00:17bestow
01:00:18the supremacy
01:00:18of the church.
01:00:20The king cannot claim it
01:00:21because it is
01:00:22a spiritual supremacy
01:00:23determined by God.
01:00:26More to this,
01:00:27the immunity
01:00:27of the church
01:00:28is promised
01:00:29both in Magna Carta
01:00:30and the king's
01:00:31own coronation oath.
01:00:34Silence!
01:00:35Now we see
01:00:36you are indeed malicious.
01:00:38Not so,
01:00:39Master Cromwell.
01:00:40I'm the king's
01:00:41true subject
01:00:41and I pray for him
01:00:42and all the realm.
01:00:44I do none harm.
01:00:45I say none harm.
01:00:46I think none harm.
01:00:48And if this be not enough
01:00:50to keep a man alive,
01:00:51in good faith
01:00:52I long not to live.
01:00:55Since I came into prison,
01:00:56I've been several times
01:00:57in such a state
01:00:58I thought to die
01:00:59within the hour.
01:01:00And I thank God
01:01:01I was never sorry
01:01:02for this.
01:01:03So my poor body
01:01:05is at the king's pleasure.
01:01:07Would God my death
01:01:09might do him some good?
01:01:11Nevertheless,
01:01:12it is not for the supremacy
01:01:15that you have sought my blood,
01:01:17but because I would not
01:01:19bend to the marriage.
01:01:20I thank God's silence!
01:01:34Silence!
01:01:46Prisoner at the bar.
01:01:47you've been found guilty of high treason
01:01:50the sentence of this court
01:01:52is that you'll be taken from this place
01:01:53to the tower
01:01:54and thence to the place of execution
01:01:56and there your head
01:01:59shall be stricken from your body
01:02:00and may God have mercy upon yourself
01:02:17I can go no further, Thomas
01:02:42here, let's drink this
01:02:46my master had easel and gall
01:02:49not wine to drink
01:02:50let me be going
01:02:56father, father, father, father, father
01:03:04patience, trouble not yourself
01:03:07death comes for us all
01:03:10even at our birth
01:03:12even at our birth
01:03:15he only stands aside a little
01:03:18and every day he looks towards us
01:03:20and muses whether that day or the next
01:03:22he will draw near
01:03:23you have long known the secrets
01:03:27of my heart
01:03:29I beseech you, Grace
01:03:38keep back
01:03:41you help me up, Captain
01:04:01I'll ship it for myself
01:04:02coming down
01:04:03you're not afraid of your office, friend
01:04:10you send him but to God
01:04:12you're very sure of that, Sir Thomas
01:04:16he will not refuse one who is so blithe to go to him
01:04:20you're on a先生
01:04:28you're not afraid of your office
01:04:31I'll ship it for now
01:04:33he Jonah
01:04:35lines
01:04:42I'm
01:04:43Behold the head of a traitor.
01:05:13I'm breathing, are you breathing too?
01:05:36It's nice isn't it?
01:05:40It isn't too difficult to stay alive, friends.
01:05:43Just keep out of trouble.
01:05:45Or if you must make trouble, make the sort of trouble that's expected.
01:05:49As the old adage says, better a live rat than a dead lion.
01:05:55With reference to the old adage.
01:05:57Thomas Cromwell was found guilty of high treason and executed on the 28th of July 1540.
01:06:03Norfolk was found guilty of high treason and should have been executed on the 27th of January 1547.
01:06:10But on the night of the 26th of January, King Henry died of syphilis and wasn't able to sign the warrant.
01:06:17Thomas Cranmer, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was burned alive on the 21st of March 1556.
01:06:25Richard Rich became a knight, solicitor general, a baron and Lord Chancellor of England and died in his bed.
01:06:35And so did I.
01:06:37And so, I hope, will all of you.
01:06:41Well, oh, if we should bump into one another, recognize me.
01:06:49I'm happy.
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