Mike Adams of HRR - The return of STEFAN MOLYNEUX!

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00:00Welcome to today's interview here on Bradtown.com, and I am just really honored and pleased to bring back, I think, one of the most important voices of our time.

00:09He is a philosopher, a teacher, just an incredibly inspiring figure, and he has been, he's sort of disengaged from large parts of the internet for a number of years, and he's back.

00:21It's Stéphane Molyneux, and he joins us right now. His website is freedomain.com, and there you go, freedomain, just like it sounds, .com.

00:28Welcome, Stéphane, or Stéphane, excuse me, everybody pronounces your name differently. Welcome to the show, it's great to have you on.

00:37Thanks, it's great to be here. We haven't chatted in a while.

00:41It's been a number of years, and honestly, I've missed your voice. I've been a big fan of your work for a long time.

00:47And then I saw a video of you recently talking about how you are focused on, what do you call it, peaceful parenting.

00:54And so, you're not beating the kids? Is that where that begins?

01:01Well, not my own, obviously, because they can fight back.

01:03Yeah, so I took some of time in the hiatus. I wrote three books, and one of the books I wrote was called Peaceful Parenting,

01:10which is the application of sort of the libertarian values of the non-aggression principle, respect for persons and property,

01:16applied to parenting, because, you know, one of the things that's kind of troubled me in the history of philosophy,

01:22and I've created and narrated a 22-part History of Philosopher's series on my site,

01:27is that philosophers don't really talk about parenting.

01:30Oh, the abstract questions of metaphysics and epistemology, oh, politics, oh, relationships between the sexes and so on.

01:38But they don't go to the core furnace of the human experience, what shapes us in irrevocable ways, which is parenting.

01:46Ayn Rand didn't talk about it. Plato barely touched on it. Aristotle really not at all.

01:51The Church Fathers did, but really from a mere biblical, not purely philosophical perspective.

01:56And I've just always had the idea or the goal that philosophy should be actionable in your life.

02:03Now, I don't like the Federal Reserve, but there's really not much I can do about it,

02:07except maybe pee on their building at 2 o'clock in the morning and risk arrest.

02:10However, when it comes to the most widespread violation of the non-aggression principle that we can do the most about,

02:17well, that would be parenting. And I've been a stay-at-home dad. My daughter turns 17 this year.

02:22So we're almost done, at least for the time being, until grandparents' stuff slides into the interview.

02:28And it works beautifully. Of course, I have a lot of friends who are peaceful parents and, you know,

02:34sibling conflicts are virtually non-existent and everyone gets along really famously.

02:38And there's not a lot of fighting, if anything, really. And it just works beautifully.

02:43And so it becomes a lab. You know, we want people to take on the non-aggression principle for society as a whole.

02:48Why don't we show how it works so well in our own families?

02:51And of course, you know, we don't beat our spouses. So why hit your children? Why yell at your children?

02:56Why call them names? If you wouldn't do it to your boss or your co-worker, don't do it to your own flesh and blood.

03:02Yeah, you know, for everything that we see on the world stage right now, there's a microcosm of that in the household,

03:07like economic sanctions. It's like, I'm suspending your allowance, you know, right?

03:13Or cancelling trade routes. You're grounded.

03:17So, you know, I mean, here we are as a world where right now, especially in the Trump presidency,

03:23and I know your focus isn't politics right now, I'm not going to take it there, but rather in an abstract way.

03:29Everything that we see in the world with so much conflict and war and sort of separation, a lot of separation.

03:35It's mine, not yours. I win, you lose, that kind of thing.

03:39If we can't conquer that in our own homes, how do we expect to, and even, I'm sorry, to even use the word conquer.

03:45That's even the wrong word. That's an imperialistic term.

03:47But if we can't navigate that locally, how do we navigate it globally, right?

03:53Yeah, and I would even push back on the idea of taking away a kid's allowance and granting them and so on.

03:58These you wouldn't do your co-workers and you wouldn't do it to your friend who bothered you.

04:02And so there's just great ways to reason with children and to respect children.

04:07Children will listen to and emulate who they most respect.

04:10And the best way to get respect from children is not to be wildly hypocritical, as in, you know, the extreme example of the parent yelling at the child, telling the child not to yell at people.

04:20Or the parent hitting the child, saying, how dare you hit someone, you know, you bad kid.

04:25So if you have a kind of base consistency in your life as a parent, then kids will just emulate that.

04:32Kids are, you know, copy paste machines, especially when they're young.

04:35You know, if you go around kids, spend time around kids when they're learning language, it's mind-blowing.

04:40It's just how quickly, like 20 words a day, 30 words a day, without even – I can't remember where the coffee is in my household after eight years.

04:48But kids are just absorbing like sponges all of this language.

04:50And they also absorb your behavior.

04:52And the more consistent and rational and friendly and positive and enthusiastic and affectionate your behavior is, the more they're going to import that into their sort of operating system, so to speak.

05:02And then, with a strong bond with the parents, they are shielded against some of the most pernicious influences, right?

05:09Bad schools, bad media, bad online stuff, and bad peers.

05:14What's going on among the young with peers these days is kind of shocking.

05:18You know, very high body counts for the girls and lots of drugs and vaping and smoking.

05:23Not so much smoking, but it's rough.

05:25And the closer the bond to the parents, the more they are going to resist the sort of siren, smash your head on the rocks lure of their peers.

05:35And, I mean, almost all parenting is gearing up for the teenage years when they start to get that independence and that skepticism and all of that.

05:43And if you have a great bond, it works out well.

05:45And if you don't have a great bond, all the time you saved by having sort of lazy or aggressive or indifferent or absent parenting, all the time you saved from taking the shortcuts when you're younger, gets burned up.

05:56Burned up, I say, by all of the stress and problems of the teenage years.

06:00So, I mean, parenting is always pay me now or pay me later.

06:02And if you put your deposits in early, the payoff is beautiful.

06:05Well, you use the term operating system there, and it's really fascinating because even though I don't have children, I've spent the last 20 months training, in essence, a digital child, which is an AI language model.

06:20And it absorbs everything that I, what I trained it on, a specific data set, it absorbs that and then it regurgitates that.

06:29And that seems, I'm not saying that AI is human, obviously, but there are language models and there are behavior models.

06:38And there's a digital neural network in the AI systems, and in humans, it's a biological neural network.

06:45And that biological neural network, as you say, learns very rapidly.

06:49And it's not just listening to words, as you say, expanding her vocabulary every day, but she or he is also greatly expanding their behavior modeling, as you said.

07:01And that's something that I think a lot of parents don't notice.

07:04As you said, there's so much hypocritical behavior that gets picked up, and then parents are like, why?

07:09Like, you know, like a cigarette smoking drug using parent, like, don't use drugs, you know?

07:13Like, that happens all the time, right?

07:15Well, children are relentlessly and beautifully empirical.

07:21So, if you ever want to really annoy a child, say, hey, I'm going to give you some candy.

07:25And they say, ooh, ooh, I like candy, I want some candy.

07:28And then you write down the word candy on a piece of paper, and you give it to them, and you say, there you go, I just gave you some candy.

07:35Well, the kids are going to be like, well, we do it with rights all the time, right?

07:38So, it's okay, it's written in some books, so you got it.

07:40But, so, kids are empirical.

07:43They care about what is, not what is conceived of.

07:46And they are, especially when they get to their teenage years, they are relentless sniffers out of hypocrisy.

07:51And this is one of the reasons, the main reason I ended up going back on Twitter.

07:55My account was restored, I don't know, a year or two ago or something like that.

07:59But I had these sort of standards for returning on Twitter, and my daughter, you know, just sort of sat me down and said, all right, let's step through this, big guy.

08:07And she made an irrefutable case, so I'm back on Twitter.

08:12And kids who know that you're going to listen to them, that reason and evidence are going to win the day, and that your behavior, actions speak louder than words, your behavior is in line with your values.

08:21Really, that's the best you can do in any relationship, but the most important thing you can do with kids.

08:26May I ask you, and I apologize if this is too sensitive, but why did you leave, you know, the internet space for a number of years?

08:38And, I mean, what's behind that?

08:40Whatever you can share with us.

08:43Oh, sure.

08:43I mean, it's not a secret because it was very public at the time.

08:47So, basically, in election year, remind me, was it in election year?

08:52Yeah, probably.

08:53That's when everything went.

08:54I do believe it was, divide by four, leap year, and election year.

08:56So, I was unceremoniously with no negotiation and barely any reports on what I might have violated.

09:08I was de-platformed, you know, the old phrase, right?

09:12And so, I was kicked off most of the major video and social media platforms as a whole.

09:22And where I was retained, it is my genuine belief.

09:25It's hard to prove that there was a huge amount of suppression given what's happened since I got back on Twitter.

09:29It's easy to see how suppressed I was on other platforms.

09:32So, of course, I went to your lovely platform, which I was already on, and I went to other platforms that were willing to accept the heretic or whatever it is.

09:42You know, you take shelter wherever you can.

09:44And I basically went from playing stadiums to playing a jazz club.

09:48So, I would do live streams to a smaller number of people.

09:50We'd have sort of intimate conversations, chatty conversations.

09:54And as to why I was de-platformed, I mean, boy, pick your reasons.

10:00Just about everything that I touched was a third rail.

10:03And I knew that ahead of time.

10:05I knew the risks going in.

10:06But I felt it was worth talking about difficult truths with the world.

10:10But some of that was about gender.

10:14I mean, significant.

10:14There was gender stuff.

10:15There was race stuff.

10:16There was political stuff.

10:18There was anti-Chinese stuff.

10:20Anti-communist, not anti-Chinese, like the Chinese people.

10:22I did a whole documentary in Hong Kong and visited China before.

10:25Lovely people.

10:27But, yeah, it was that.

10:29And skepticism about COVID.

10:31And I did a whole presentation called The Case Against China.

10:36As to how we were pretty sure that it came out of the Chinese lab.

10:40Oh, what else?

10:41Oh, yeah.

10:42I mean, if you remember George Floyd.

10:45I had a black cop and a white cop on my show talking about George Floyd and how sometimes

10:49people get what's called excited delirium.

10:51And they just kind of faint and have medical problems when getting arrested.

10:54So, I think there was just a whole narrative that wanted to be pushed forward that people

11:00didn't want pushed forward.

11:02And rather than, you know, I do shows where people can call in and argue and debate with

11:05me all the time.

11:06But rather than do that, well, they proved to be rather intolerant of tolerance.

11:12And that's sort of the paradox.

11:13So, I think that was it as a whole.

11:16But that's the gig, right?

11:17I mean, as a philosopher, you're supposed to promote virtue and truth.

11:20And that interferes with the goals and plans of the corrupt and the false.

11:25So, I mean, that's the gig.

11:27And I will say, too, I will say this with great gratitude.

11:29Dude, it's a way better gig than most philosophers in history have ever, ever gotten.

11:34True, true.

11:34Because, you know, I get to largely work from home and I don't have to drink any hemlock.

11:39I'm not tortured.

11:40I'm not set fire to and so on.

11:43I'm not driven into exile.

11:44So, yeah, I mean, it's a pretty good gig.

11:47Not yet.

11:47Yeah.

11:47I think we'll stay on the sunny side of that street.

11:50Okay.

11:51Excellent.

11:51During this time, I would say that I think mainstream awareness of the importance of philosophical

11:59underpinnings of our actions has only increased.

12:01And I've seen, like, Thomas Sowell fan clubs and things like that, right?

12:06And people really talking about core philosophies more and more.

12:09And even myself, I've been influenced by your work.

12:12And I've said publicly many times, like, I don't worship any man or woman.

12:16I'm not pro-Trump or anti-Trump.

12:18I have a system of values.

12:20And when Trump is aligned with those values, I will applaud his work.

12:24When he contradicts those values, I criticize him.

12:26End of story.

12:28And I'm actually seeing that that kind of philosophy is catching on more.

12:33And your voice, I dearly miss your voice, by the way.

12:38I'm so glad that you're back.

12:40And do you think that humanity right now, as a whole, I know there's still, you know,

12:44there's still the whole annoying, like, mainstream Twitter crowd that doesn't think there are NPCs, whatever.

12:52But as a whole, do you think people are actually being, I don't want to say quite red-pilled,

12:58but more amenable to the idea of the importance of philosophical underpinnings?

13:02Well, I think so.

13:04And because I was, and, you know, I sort of hate to use the phrase, like, in the wilderness or exile,

13:10because, you know, the places that took me in were very valuable, and I hugely appreciate it.

13:14But I will say that having been away from really mainstream idea talk, mainstream reasoning talk,

13:24boy, things have changed in the last half decade since I was in the fray on a regular basis.

13:29I mean, things have changed a lot.

13:32Stuff that used to be controversial is now largely accepted.

13:36And it's actually because people are telling me, and it's an interesting thing to hear,

13:40because I always used to be, I don't know, cutting edge, bleeding edge, self-mutilation edge,

13:45something like that.

13:46But people are now telling me, you know, hey, old-timer, you know, you've been out of the game for half a decade.

13:54Don't come back as if time hasn't moved on in your absence or people's thoughts haven't moved on in your absence.

14:02So I'm, obviously, it's been, like, two weeks since I've been back on X.

14:07And thanks, Elon.

14:09Really, really mean that.

14:10And people are, like, I'm sniffing out where things are.

14:14They've moved on a lot, which is great.

14:16I mean, I think that's wonderful.

14:17So, I mean, boy, I think that COVID, man, did that ever do a number on people's trust in authority?

14:24Like now the new occult leaders, the nerds in white pocket protectors and lab coats,

14:29all telling everyone, trust the science, as if science isn't about foundational skepticism

14:34and the wisdom of your elders and rigid empiricism for nature and reason.

14:39So I think for a lot of people, they're like, okay, well, it's clear that we've got a lot of lies about that.

14:46But if they're lying about that, and that was some pretty important stuff, then what else are they lying about?

14:52That's number one.

14:52And number two, I've sort of been asking people about this on Twitter to get the lay of the land

14:56because I really don't know what people are thinking en masse post-COVID because I was deplatformed near the beginning.

15:03And it's like, what are people doing with the fact that there was so much turning on each other over COVID?

15:12Because I think we all saw that.

15:14People snarling at each other to wear their masks.

15:16A lot of the Democrats said children should be taken away from parents who won't vaccinate their kids,

15:20or people should put an internment camp, so we should go full Australia.

15:24Like I know it started as a penal colony, but why would you want to revisit that under COVID?

15:28That's weird.

15:29And so the number of people who just went kind of evil and corrupt over COVID,

15:34and now everyone is just, shh, move on.

15:39Let's, you know, like you hit something in that car, ba-dum, ba-dum.

15:41It's like, keep driving, man.

15:42Keep, don't turn back.

15:43And then you pretend nothing happened five minutes later.

15:45And I think that's weird.

15:46I think that's destabilized a lot of people's relationships.

15:50And so, I mean, and all the people who were like, oh, well, you know, you can't separate families.

15:55I mean, what about the illegals?

15:56And it's like, well, you know, you all wanted granny to die on her own because the coldness was ravaging the people who already had three or four more comorbidities.

16:05So it's, I think that the hypocrisy, I think the falsehood, and I think the absolute five seconds later, Will Smith pen-in-the-face amnesia is just wild for people.

16:17And I'm trying to understand how people are processing that because, of course, I didn't really spend time around people who bought into a lot of the COVID stuff.

16:24And seeing how that's shaping out post-COVID is wild.

16:30I mean, I think that people are just erasing the past, but in erasing the past, it's really making the relationships weak as well.

16:40Because if people won't even admit the fault that's really in front of their faces, which they did a year or two ago or three, what really is there?

16:47So, yeah, just trying to get the lay of the land, having been away from the mainstream alternative media for so long is really fascinating.

16:54I'm getting some really good advice on that, which I appreciate.

16:56Oh, I'm sure.

16:57I'm sure.

16:58Let me ask your reaction to something that I experienced in the last year along these very lines.

17:03And I'll try to keep your feet out of the fire on this by not making it too controversial.

17:10But last year, I studied the Bible and I taught 104 Bible sermons.

17:19I stopped teaching Bible sermons because the minute I started asking questions about the Bible and why there are different versions of the Bible,

17:27and what about these missing books that are in the Ethiopian Bible, and what about the translations and the Roman Catholic Church and the counterfeit 2 Peter book?

17:38And these kinds of questions annoyed the hell out of Christians.

17:43And then I found out, based on other world events and certain things I'm not going to specify,

17:52I found out that a great many Christians absolutely do not believe anything that Christ taught, such as peace or nonviolence.

18:02Even Christ himself was opposed to animal sacrifice, for example, freeing the animals of the temples, et cetera.

18:08And for me, that was a big disappointment to realize that here's a large group of sort of mainstream, let's say, megachurch so-called Christians

18:18who actually behave like just a cult, not with any philosophical underpinnings that they claim to follow.

18:28And then I connected with some other people who actually know the history, study the history of Jesus of Nazareth,

18:33and actually follow the teachings of peace and so on.

18:36And I was really shocked by that.

18:40So I experienced this mass disillusionment among a group that I thought was fighting for truth and freedom of speech all these years as Trump was being persecuted.

18:51And then when it came time for them to persecute this other group somewhere else, they were like all for it, like bomb them, kill them, whatever.

18:59That blew my mind, Stefan.

19:01I mean, how do we make sense of this?

19:06I mean, the big challenge of a belief system is when it commands you to do something you really, really don't want to do.

19:12And one of the things that happens in the Bible, of course, is, and I have been going to church and I have been studying this stuff and I did a whole series on Bible verses this last year.

19:23Not that I'm any kind of expert, just please understand that, but I've certainly been thinking about it.

19:27And one of the things that happens in the Bible, of course, is that if you are a, you know, like an angry, judgmental person, you can find justification for that.

19:37If you're a meek, forgive everyone person, you can find justification for that.

19:40The real challenge is when you are commanded to do something that goes against the grain.

19:44Otherwise, it's like a buffet.

19:45Hey, just eat what you want, eat what tastes good.

19:47You never have to restrict your diet and that's not healthy in life or in a belief system.

19:52And so for me, when somebody hits or gets a counter argument to what they feel like doing, that's when you really test whether you believe in it or not.

20:03So, I mean, for instance, the non-aggression principle, thou shalt not initiate force.

20:08I mean, when applied to a child raising, it's very clear.

20:11Obviously, it's not self-defense against your children, and if there are alternatives to violence, we should take them.

20:15And the non-aggression principle says the initiation of force is wrong.

20:18So, can you apply that in your own life?

20:20And, right, there's tension because it's like, okay, well, now I can do something about these values that I claim to hold.

20:27And in the same way, you know, I'm criticized for saying that people should be free to criticize their own parents.

20:33I mean, how are we going to progress?

20:34How are we going to progress as a society if we can't criticize those who came before us?

20:38I mean, it happens in science, in math, and in business.

20:41It happens, and it should happen in the family.

20:43And then people say, oh, well, honor thy mother and thy father.

20:46And I'm like, but you don't honor people by lying to them and pretending things aren't true.

20:50Like, if you have a family that went kind of crazy over COVID, you should sit down and talk with them about it.

20:55And if it's your parents, same.

20:58You've got to sit down because the important one for me is thou shalt not bear false witness, which means in important matters of morality in society, you must tell the truth.

21:06And so if people are just like, well, honor their mother and their father and forgive everyone so I don't have to say anything about anything negative that anyone's ever done to me, I don't really think that's the point.

21:17But it goes in line with, you know, confronting corrupt people and confronting people who did you wrong can be kind of alarming.

21:24I mean, they can get really angry.

21:25They can escalate.

21:26They can spread rumors about you.

21:28I mean, maybe, hopefully, it'll go well, but it might go badly.

21:30And so, and that's just in your family confronting, I mean, this is kind of what my whole gig was for 20 years.

21:36So confronting people who've done wrong is a very volatile situation.

21:40It's easier to sit back and just say, well, I'm commanded to forgive, so I don't need to be honest.

21:44I don't need to confront.

21:45It's not what the Bible says.

21:46The Bible says if someone wrongs you, there's a three-step process.

21:49Number one, talk to them individually.

21:52If they don't listen, number two, gather them together with a small group of the congregation.

21:56Number three, talk to them in front of the whole congregation.

21:59If they still don't listen or provide any apologies or amends, then ostracize them from the church.

22:05I mean, that's very clear.

22:07It's not just, you know, no matter what you do.

22:09I mean, the turn the other cheek thing, I think, is like, you know, if somebody hits you, it could be by accident.

22:13Turn the other cheek.

22:14If they hit you again, now it's not by accident.

22:16You've got a more clear moral situation on your hands.

22:18So, when people want to not confront evil because it's scary to confront evil or corruption or just bad behavior, then they say, oh, big forgiveness.

22:27It's like, well, if I make this argument, suddenly they look at the Bible and the Bible says, you know, here's what you do.

22:33And you kind of have to confront people who do wrong.

22:36And then they don't like it anymore because it is not in accordance with what they kind of want to do or what feels more comfortable to do, if that makes sense.

22:45And, yeah, along those lines, I'm seeing just a tremendous amount of real tribalism now, sort of a philosophical tribalism.

22:53And most people choose a tribe.

22:56It's really like prison gangs.

22:59If you're in prison, you know, you choose a gang or you die, right?

23:04So, you know, you go in, somebody chooses the skinhead gang or the Latino narco gang or whatever, or the Asian gang.

23:12Everybody's choosing a gang right now.

23:14And there are a few prominent gangs.

23:16Some of them are, you know, politically affiliated or religious affiliated or what have you, or a technocracy affiliated gang, like the technocrat gang, right?

23:25But everybody's choosing a gang.

23:27And the thing is, or most people, the thing is, or a tribe, those tribes, at least in my observation, those tribes, none of the prominent tribes that I see,

23:38I just named some examples, have any core philosophical underpinnings that are sustainable in the long run for human civilization to live in prosperity and peace at all.

23:51So, that's why I'm not joining any tribe or gang, because none of them make any sense to me.

23:58What do you say?

24:01I mean, it's the fundamental choice that we have is to align ourself with reason and evidence or to align ourself with the agreement of others.

24:07And it's very tough going it alone, especially, you know, as society generally becomes more collectivist and as there is a lot of, as you say, breakup into these kinds of tribes.

24:18And this is very important politically because the government shovels trillions of dollars around based upon tribalism and special interest groups and so on.

24:25So, going it alone is tough and the choice of, do I want to reason according to facts and evidence or do I want my existing beliefs reinforced by other people who believe the same thing?

24:42That's the fundamental question in life.

24:46And I've certainly tried it both ways.

24:48And the problem is, of course, that if you end up focusing on what other people agree with you about, the great price you pay is individuality, integrity and love.

25:01Because, you know, there's this funny meme on the Internet, which is, it's a bit unfair, but it is guys driving past a frat, right?

25:08And all the women look the same and they're mocking them.

25:11Well, you'll never find another woman like me.

25:13And it's like, if you're just kind of the same as everyone else in the group, you can't be loved as an individual.

25:20You know, it's like seeing a bunch of Canada geese flying overhead and saying, oh, I really love that one.

25:24But the rest of them, no.

25:26It's like they kind of look the same, they kind of act the same.

25:28And so you have to individuate in order to love and be loved.

25:31You have to have virtue, which means a relationship with reason and integrity rather than just the approval of the brute mob.

25:39The approval of the brute mob may further the survival of your body, but as far as your soul and your virtues and your intellect and your consciousness goes, it's a really bad deal.

25:47You dissolve everything that's unique about you into the vat of approval and you emerge as just an NPC that people will put up with but never really love.

25:56Yeah, that's a really good point.

25:57But it's so much more convenient.

25:59It's easy to have the buffet handed to you like, you're going to believe this, you're going to cheer this, you know.

26:07Well, sorry to interrupt, but the chance for it happening and you being able to survive is very new.

26:12Very new.

26:13I mean, it's certainly earlier than the internet, but not much, right?

26:18Because in the past, you had to go along with the tribe because you couldn't survive on your own.

26:22You couldn't reproduce.

26:23You couldn't, you know, somebody's got to guard you while you sleep.

26:25You can't build a barn by yourself.

26:27So the opportunity to actually think for yourself is so new.

26:33I mean, we really haven't adapted to it.

26:36And there's this real tension, right?

26:37So societies, yeah, societies want this conformity because that way you get cohesion and, you know, phalanx and all the army marches in the same direction.

26:48So you want this cohesion.

26:49But at the same time, if the society is too, quote, cohesive, then you don't get any particular progress.

26:54I sort of talked about this in my Hong Kong documentary that one of the reasons why China lost out to Europe is that Europe has valued, I mean, really since the Greeks and certainly through Christianity, they valued a lot of independent thought and challenging thought and the Socratic reasoning and so on.

27:10And the ability to use faith to go against the mob, to have a relationship that is different than approval.

27:16And so because in the West we accepted and killed, you know, a few percent fewer of our individual thinkers, we ended up with a lot of technological progress and economic progress, which allowed us to overtake and overcome the sort of very, not primitive, but very stagnant, the sort of 6,000-year stagnant Chinese society.

27:33So there's this tension in human life.

27:35We want the individuals, but at the same time, we need the cohesion for a war and defense and so on.

27:41And that tension has really swung towards more the individual side of things at the moment, which I think is a very sort of positive thing.

27:49But, of course, as you get more individuals, you get people recoiling from that and further joining groups.

27:54So there's this sort of hollowing out in the middle.

27:55Which brings us to the point, I just read this in the news this morning, in Germany, a woman was arrested and fined for posting a thumbs-up emoji.

28:06Actually, it was a triple thumbs-up, which apparently is a serious crime in Germany, based on the comment that she was giving the thumbs-up to.

28:15So emojis are thought crimes now in Europe, and in the UK, the police spend more time raiding their own citizens' homes over social media posts than they do arresting illegals who have crossed the border illegally and are increasingly occupying cities like London.

28:33So Europe, I mean, the description you just gave about the history of relative free thought in Europe, I think, was right on.

28:43But has that now been sacrificed in the authoritarianism and the thought control that we're witnessing today?

28:51Oh, it's heartbreaking, really.

28:55I mean, when you think of John Milton wrote back in the day a tract called Ario Pagetica, which was one of the first robust, full-throated defences of free speech.

29:05Thomas More, of course, worked in a similar vein.

29:08And it took hundreds of years to build up a respect for free speech in the West.

29:15And it's collapsing everywhere.

29:19And you could say, ah, well, America, but don't worry, we have the First Amendment in America.

29:23And it's like, well, sure, but that's why there's de-platforming, right?

29:25So it's not like you have that either in sort of a practical sense, right?

29:30Right.

29:30So it is things that our forefathers bled and died by the millions to hand to us, which was robust free speech and free inquiry and the willingness to accept that you can't think without the risk of offending someone.

29:45And that is within a very short period of time, really, it is half a generation within a very short period of time that has largely collapsed because the ideas that are raining roughshod over Europe are indefensible.

30:03And that which is indefensible is oppressive.

30:05It has to silence the questioner because there are no answers.

30:10And so censorship is the tool of the fool.

30:13Censorship is an admission of defeat.

30:16And it is very, very sad to see what was struggled for for hundreds and hundreds of years over the course of European history just vanishing in a flurry of hysteria within a decade or two.

30:28Oh, yeah. And a really good, relatively recent example of that is this musician that was just performing, I think, in the UK.

30:36I think his name is Violin or Villain.

30:40I don't know how it's pronounced, but he was maybe it's Villain.

30:43But he was chanting death to the IDF, right?

30:46This has been big news.

30:48And he and his band have been denied visas to the United States based on his his speech, which, of course, is right there on the edge of what most people would consider to be tolerable speech.

31:04But in U.S. Supreme Court case history, that is clearly First Amendment protected speech.

31:09But the the thing that I find shocking about is that we have senators like Lindsey Graham that are constantly shouting essentially death to Iran.

31:16So, you know, it's like with the politics aside, we live in a country where it's OK for our elected officials to call for the death or the bombing of other countries.

31:28But if somebody else calls for the death of someone that that we consider ourselves to be allies with, then that's not allowable.

31:37So we don't really have a First Amendment that is a universal philosophy.

31:42And if it's not universal, then it's not really a philosophy, is it?

31:45And so we have the selective enforcement.

31:49Yeah, I mean, that's one of the natures of corruption and power is rules for the but not for me.

31:54And I always feel that if somebody is not like debate me, bro, come on, come out of the ring, debate me, debate me.

32:02If somebody is not doing that, if somebody is not willing to be questioned and criticized and hopefully unraveled.

32:09And if you're wrong, someone's doing you a favor.

32:12It's like when you're driving in your car, if you make a wrong turn, your GPS says recalculating.

32:17And you're happy about that because you want you you want your GPS to get you to the right destination.

32:21The destination is truth, virtue and integrity.

32:23And, you know, this is why for me, I've always, you know, every time I open up my live stream, it's like questions, comments, issues, criticisms, you know, and people who've got criticisms go to the front of the line.

32:33And if people are criticizing me on social media, it's like, hey, come on in, debate me, set me straight to tell me where I've gone wrong because I don't want to be wrong.

32:40Who wants to keep blinding, blindly driving into the desert because you're not listening to your GPS?

32:45There's a way to go out there and die among the cactuses and the, I don't know, woolly mammoth bones or whatever the hell's out there.

32:51You said something really profound about this on Twitter.

32:53You said this was just, I think maybe yesterday, you said when you are debating or arguing with somebody, ask them to explain your position from your point of view.

33:05And usually they can't.

33:07And you've also said something that I've taken to heart for many years, which is that the first time you meet someone, you treat them by default with respect and politeness.

33:18The second time you meet them, you treat them the way they treated you the first time you met them.

33:22I've taken that to heart.

33:24It's served me well.

33:26So thank you for that.

33:27Well, it's mathematically the best winning strategy.

33:30And the thing is, that doesn't mean that you end up, let's say you meet someone the first time, you're nice, and then they're nasty, right?

33:36For whatever reason.

33:37That doesn't mean that the relationship is now stuck in nice, nasty for the rest of time, because if they say, ooh, you know, I'm really sorry.

33:44I really overreacted to that.

33:46I called you a mean word.

33:47I'm really sorry.

33:50Let's reboot and so on, right?

33:52Well, now they're treating you nice.

33:54So now you can treat them nicely.

33:56That's right.

33:56It's not a one.

33:57Everyone thinks it hardens like concrete into this opposition.

34:01It's like, no, no.

34:02I've had people in my life, and I've had to do this to people in my life.

34:05It's like, ah, I went too far.

34:07I'm really sorry.

34:07That was unfair.

34:08That was over the top.

34:09And I let my emotions get away with me.

34:11I'm going to work on that, and here's how, and all of that.

34:13You know, you make your apologies.

34:14You make your restitution and some reasonable commitment about how it's less likely to happen again.

34:19So, yeah, that is an absolutely winning strategy in life.

34:22But it's tough, because a lot of people want to feel virtuous with this wand-waving forgiveness stuff.

34:28And, yeah, when it comes to, there's a lot of people who cannot handle other people's viewpoints.

34:33They can't really conceive of other people's viewpoints.

34:36Right.

34:36And it certainly is more the case on the left than the right.

34:38If you go to the average conservative and you say, why do the leftists care about this right or that right or this group or the poor or the sick?

34:46Like, why?

34:47And they say, oh, well, because of X, Y, and Z.

34:48Now, I don't agree with their solution, but this is their approach, and this is, you know, government spending will.

34:53They don't want people to get sick.

34:54Government spending doesn't really hurt the rich that much, and it really helps the poor.

34:57And, you know, you can make this case from a leftist standpoint, and most conservatives can do that with regards to leftists.

35:05While they don't agree with it, they can do it.

35:07But leftists, not so much the same way.

35:11Leftists almost cannot conceive of the rightist position or the conservative position.

35:18They can't conceive of it, and I don't know if that's cause or effect, but then what happens is they basically just scream, you know, racist, Nazi, homo, whatever it is, right?

35:25And so when it comes to debating, if the other person can't even articulate your position, then it's not a debate.

35:34Now, you may do it publicly to educate people, as I do, but I wouldn't ever engage in a debate with somebody who couldn't articulate my position because they're only – they're just talking to – it's like watching a bird attack a mirror.

35:45Like, they're not talking to anyone other than their own prejudices, and all they're going to do is straw man and project.

35:51So, yeah, definitely on the left, especially if you're debating with a leftist, just say, okay, give me – just 30 seconds.

35:58Give me 30 seconds on why the conservative position on X is important to conservatives.

36:04I'm not asking you to agree with it, but it's like they're almost like if they let the ideas in their brain, it's an infection that they're going to wake up as Pat Buchanan or something, right?

36:11So, yeah, they really can't, and it's one of the reasons why debates tend to escalate pretty seriously.

36:17Yeah, that's really interesting, and I'm finding there's a lot of cognitive – I don't know if illiteracy is the right word, or let me call it functional stupidity.

36:30And I don't mean that in a derogatory way.

36:33I mean it in a descriptive way, a functional stupidity or an inability to function cognitively as adults, right?

36:42And that's a great example of what you just said.

36:45For example, I can articulate the left-wing view on abortion, right?

36:49I don't agree with it, but I can certainly articulate it, or on gun control or on climate change or anything, right?

36:55I absolutely understand their points, but I can refute those points with other points, right?

37:03But – or any issue for that matter, at least I can understand the other side.

37:09But we live in a time, like you said, when it's just – it's an emotive reactionary in your face, just – your speech is violence.

37:21I mean that's what the left – especially during the years where you were banned, the things you said, I bet you got a lot of reactions where people said,

37:28your speech is a violent assault.

37:31Did you hear that from people?

37:33I saw it more acted out than spoken about.

37:36Like people would react to data that I presented or arguments that I presented or experts that I interviewed as if I was attempting to set fire to their baby crib.

37:45And it is – so it wasn't usually spoken because to say that is really tough.

37:51But definitely people acted in that kind of way.

37:55And it's very tough.

37:57And, of course, a lot of that has to do with the fact that there are a lot of people who survive off moral corruption, right?

38:04So the people who – like military, industrial complex for the rich, the welfare state for the poor and so on – it's all the unjust transfer of money against people's choice and willpower.

38:14And so consistency in moral virtues would completely reshape resource – I wouldn't say allocation because that sounds like somebody shuffling stuff around who's got godlike powers.

38:25But who would have what resources would massively change if we focus, say, on the non-aggression principle and a respect for property rights?

38:32Because you'd actually have to go and ask people for money rather than getting the government to threaten them to jail in order to get your steady diet of government cheese in a van down by the river.

38:41So when people rely on false moral principles, then moral integrity becomes a predator that is going to steal from them.

38:51And so they react in the same way.

38:53Like if you're out there and it's been a lean year and you're going to set fire to the farmer's fields and he's not going to make it through the winter in his perception, he's going to get pretty aggressive with you because you burning down his fields is endangering his entire family.

39:06And so when we start to talk about moral integrity and property rights and limited or small or no government and free market allocations and all of that, well, then a lot of people feel like the tax benefits that they are receiving are going to be threatened.

39:22And they react as aggressively as a farmer when you're about to burn out his crops.

39:26And I understand that.

39:27But it still doesn't make it violent.

39:29I mean, the people who owned and traded slaves were really mad when slaves were freed.

39:34So, you know, even the people who bred horses were mad when the horseless carriage came along because people didn't need horses as much.

39:42Or the people who shoveled horse poop in the cities, they didn't have a job.

39:46I mean, progress is all about some people losing out and the majority of people gaining.

39:50And so, yeah, I mean, I understand why they're mad.

39:53But, you know, maybe you shouldn't be dependent on a corrupt system in the first place.

39:57And it's not friendly to let people stay on welfare because welfare is mathematically going to end and not even that long from now.

40:03So it's really, you know, you want to wean people off an addiction.

40:06You don't want them just to crash out when the money and the checks stop coming.

40:11So we're actually trying to help people by telling them that the system can't continue and they need to make some alternate arrangements.

40:17Really good point.

40:17Yeah, we're not doomers to state the obvious.

40:21It's really helping people prepare.

40:22But that brings me, I want to ask you, and this is a question for you to queue up because I want to plug your website and talk about your site first.

40:31But the question to queue up is about the concept of the UBI as AI tends to replace, at first, more desk jobs and white collar jobs.

40:40So before we get to your answer on that, tell us about freedomain.com and what you offer, how people can interact with you.

40:47You can share your social media accounts, video channels, whatever is important.

40:51Oh, thank you.

40:52I appreciate that.

40:53Yeah, so it's freedomain.com.

40:54I would really point people towards freedomain.com slash books.

40:57All of my books are free with the exception of The Art of the Argument and really got some great books there.

41:04I hope you'll check it out.

41:05You can go to freedomain.com slash connect, which has a list of all of the social media sites that I'm on now, including X.

41:11And so I really, really do appreciate that.

41:13I do interact with people.

41:14I live stream a lot.

41:15I take questions a lot.

41:16I'm not an ivory tower kind of guy.

41:19And so I hope that people will come and check it out.

41:21It's a great set of resources for learning how to think, how to reason.

41:25And at its best, my work will absolutely shake you to the core in terms of challenging things that you believe to be true, but aren't necessarily true.

41:35So I hope people will check it out.

41:37And I appreciate that.

41:38That's a rough one.

41:39Was it, is it a quote from Mark Twain?

41:43It's not what you think is true that gets you.

41:45It's what you think is true that just ain't so.

41:48Is that, is that a Twain quote?

41:50I think it's, I mean, it's hard to know because every pithy saying goes through the Twain colon at some point.

41:55True, true.

41:56Well, Twain said it.

41:57Well, it's mine, but I'm going to say Mark Twain because he was really funny.

42:00So it's a great statement no matter what it is.

42:03And the assumptions that people have are very dangerous and easy to manipulate.

42:11If you live in other people's ideas, rather than connecting to sort of raw empirical sensual reality, if you live in other people's ideas and arguments, you are just a leaf in the wind.

42:21It's like the concept of hate speech.

42:22There is no such thing.

42:23Speech you hate is not hate speech.

42:26And it's not evil and it's not bad.

42:28They're just words.

42:29But if you live in other people's words, you are not your own person.

42:35You are being whacked around by the dictionary and you are bonding with other people's prejudices like a duckling on the most evil duck that you can imagine.

42:43My daughter is going to hate that analogy because she loves ducks.

42:45But, yeah, so you have to find a way to connect your brain, not through other people's language.

42:52That's Plato's cave.

42:53That is living in delusion.

42:55Not through other people's language, but redefine what is true, building from the ground up, reason and evidence.

43:00I've got a 17-part Introduction to Philosophy series I did in 2006.

43:04Oh, lordy, lordy.

43:05No kidding.

43:05Which you can find on the website under playlists.

43:09And I've got a couple of documentaries.

43:11And, yeah, I hope people will check it out.

43:12It's a great set of resources.

43:13And get involved in the community.

43:15There's a lot of great people who want to talk philosophy.

43:16Well, I strongly encourage people to interact with you and your content, your website.

43:21I think that doing so will make you a better person.

43:25It will encourage you to engage in that introspection.

43:31Let's call it the self-checksum, the error-correcting code of the self, which is a normal process of maturity.

43:41And we all go through that, and sometimes we can benefit from more of that.

43:45So thank you so much, Stefan, for all that you bring to the world.

43:49I really appreciate you.

43:50Now, if I could encourage you to answer my last point about the UBIs.

43:56Now, let me just preface that by saying that as someone who has worked now in AI for about two years

44:04and with a background in computer science and running software and so on,

44:08I am absolutely convinced, and you may or may not agree with me, which of course is fine,

44:14but I'm absolutely convinced that agentic AI will, within the next six to 24 months,

44:22be capable of replacing a very significant percentage of typical desk jobs.

44:27I call it KVM, keyboard, video, mouse.

44:30So any job where you have a keyboard, a screen, and a mouse,

44:34where the computer doesn't even know you're human, right?

44:37You're just...

44:37Sorry, I'm just going to take my mouse, and I'm just going to hurl it out the window

44:39so I can break that chain and keep my job.

44:42Yeah, but you're, you know, the computer doesn't know you're human.

44:45You're, the computer is just, you're inputting into the system through the keyboard and the mouse,

44:50and you're getting, you know, feedback visually or audibly.

44:56KVM jobs can be replaced quite competently by reasoning AI engines, I believe, like I said, in that time frame.

45:04What do you think are the implications for society, and how will humanity,

45:08that is, if you agree with what I'm saying, how will humanity be able to adapt to that, in your view?

45:17Yeah, I share your background.

45:19I ran a computer software company for many years.

45:23I was chief technical officer and lead programmer, and so on.

45:26So I understand that stuff fairly well.

45:27I've done entire presentations on AI.

45:29So the way that I sort of view AI at the moment is the forest is burning down, and the animals are fleeing through the undergrowth.

45:37It's coming for you.

45:38It's coming for me.

45:39And there's really only one thing you can do to escape the forest fire of AI.

45:44And, of course, your forest fires are damaging in the short run, but healthy for the forest in the long run.

45:48And we really haven't had something like this in society.

45:53I really could think twice before.

45:55One is the introduction of computers as a whole, but before that, it was the introduction of labor-saving machinery on farms.

46:01At the turn of the 20th century, like 125 years ago, 90% of Americans were involved in farming.

46:07Now it's like 2% or 3%, right?

46:09So these kinds of revolutions, these kinds of changes happen not infrequently, but certainly it's been a while.

46:17And there's really only one way that you can deal with the challenge of AI, which is don't be an NPC.

46:24You have to think for yourself.

46:25It's one thing that AIs can't do is think creatively because they are just word-guessing machines,

46:32very sophisticated and complicated word-guessing machines that are nosing their way through the existing undergrowth of human thought

46:38and then assembling things.

46:40But it's like a Lego set.

46:42You can only build what the Lego set can build.

46:46And so the only way, and it's not, you don't have to be a super high-AQ guy or woman,

46:50but you just have to reason from first principles and think for yourself.

46:54That's something that AI will probably never be able to do any more than it will be able to get insights about its own life from dreaming at night,

47:00all the other things that the human brain is capable of.

47:02But if all you are is an assemblage and a pastiche of other people's thoughts and fragments of things you've read

47:09and a little bit of fear because this guy disapproved you and a little bit of lust because this girl would go out with you

47:14if you say you are big into X, Y, or Z, leftist cause.

47:17So if all you are is kind of like a fallen-from-an-airplane jigsaw puzzle of chaotic sentiments programmed by the media

47:24and fear and lust, you're going to be replaced by AI.

47:28Absolutely.

47:29And now is the time, yet now is the time that you have to learn how to think.

47:32Again, ordertheargument.com, there's lots of resources for people, Plato's Dialogues,

47:37lots of resources for people to learn how to really think and question, but now is the time, man.

47:42If you stand in that forest, you're going to get burnt to the ground,

47:44but there's a way to flee towards the sunlit upper plains of reason and evidence and creative thought,

47:49and that will allow you to just watch the fires go by and take the slower.

47:53You and I have reached the exact same conclusion on this, and this is the first time we've spoken in years.

47:59And let me just add in the medical application in our society for this.

48:05So just like you said, Stefan, a doctor, a mainstream doctor who currently functions algorithmically,

48:12who is fed through medical school a series of symptoms that match up with a sequence of pharmaceuticals,

48:17pharmaceuticals, he is just a biological skin bag vending machine for pharmaceuticals.

48:24Right.

48:25He or she can be replaced just like that by an AI system.

48:29And I have no doubt that AI doctors will soon be granted the power to write prescriptions because that, of course,

48:35It was just today, sorry, I didn't know if you saw it.

48:37It was just today that they released a study that AI, I think it was 400% better and 20% cheaper in terms of its diagnosis of complex cases.

48:47And I don't want somebody who's programmed by a bunch of textbooks and programmed by weird incentives,

48:53like, well, if I vaccinate everyone so they look like a porcupine, I get X number of extra dollars.

48:58I want objective, neutral, from the ground up reasoning.

49:02I don't want a doctor who's just following a maze like a rat after a piece of cheese.

49:07I want some creativity and thought.

49:10Because AI is very good at writing code and prescribing prescription drugs based on symptoms is just like writing code in medicine.

49:19But to your point earlier, what you said, if you have a gifted, I'm going to call a person a healer or a naturopathic physician,

49:27a holistic thinker who can look at the entire patient, the mind, body, the soul, the lifestyle, the family interactions, the emotional, everything.

49:38AI can't do that.

49:39So a real healer will always have value in society because of being able to have that human connection and perception and that holistic point of view,

49:48whereas mainstream doctors will be obsolete within a couple of years, as far as I can tell.

49:53And even the surgeons, even the surgeons will be replaced by robotic surgeons that are already very accomplished at all kinds of common procedures right now and just getting better every day.

50:04So it's a good time to not be a human robot.

50:08Very true.

50:09If you run on programs, you can be replaced by AI that runs on programs.

50:13So uncouple yourself from the programming and think for yourself.

50:16And that's really your only shot.

50:17Well said, Stefan.

50:20And in wrapping up the show, I mean, I'm so glad to hear your analysis of this.

50:26And I really look forward to tuning into more of your content and seeing more of your tweets on X.

50:32What's your handle on X, by the way?

50:35Oh, yeah.

50:36It shouldn't be, but it is.

50:37It's my unspellable name.

50:39So let me just put it out there.

50:41At Stefan Molyneux, S-T-E-F-A-N-M-O-L-Y-N-E-U-X.

50:47Because that's what you want is an F that should be spelled P-H and a silent X at the end of your name.

50:52Because I'm all about the marketing, bro.

50:53Of course.

50:54All about the marketing.

50:55So unfortunately, my history gave me a name.

50:57Bob Smith would be better, but I don't have myself a Bob Smith.

51:00I have a Polish and French pastiche.

51:03And at least my middle name, which is British Basil, isn't sort of jammed in there somewhere.

51:07So yeah, it's Stefan Molyneux.

51:08I'm sure you'll put a link to it, and you can follow me there.

51:10We will put a link.

51:12So it's N-E-U-X at the end.

51:15That's right.

51:15N-E-U-X.

51:16And I've got to get used to calling you Stefan.

51:19I keep saying Stefan because that's just, in my mind, that's my internal voice of how I say your name.

51:25And you've been posting about internal voices and also the fact that so few people have an internal dialogue, which is scary.

51:33Oh, yeah.

51:33The 30% to 50%, depending on how you measure it, but 30% to 50%.

51:37I've seen higher, I've seen lower, but 30% to 50% of people do not have an internal monologue or dialogue.

51:43I don't exactly know how the brains work, but it's mostly just imagery.

51:46It's not an IQ thing.

51:47You can be super smart.

51:48And engineers work with things, and they don't work with language.

51:52And it's wild.

51:53But it certainly does explain a lot in the world.

51:56Yeah.

51:57I think you described it in your tweet as like a mishmash of images and emotions and something like that.

52:02And I think you're right.

52:04Yeah.

52:05Yeah.

52:05These are the people, like you have this, it's the fabled quarter second, right?

52:08So when you have an impulse, right?

52:11Nerves travel, I think, 240 miles an hour.

52:13Nerves, emotional impulses go through your body.

52:16It slows to like 20 miles an hour in your brain.

52:18You have about a quarter second to intercept an impulse, to not act out something.

52:22You know, if somebody's really annoying you and you want to yell at them or grab them by the shoulders, don't do that.

52:26But if you do want to do that, you have about a quarter second.

52:28And civilization lives in that quarter second.

52:30Because if people don't repress that, you know, that blow up, then they act out and they go to prison and bad things happen in society as a whole.

52:39So we really do have to focus on getting people to not just act and react, which means DNPC yourself, reason from first principles, deal with emotional difficulties, and recognize that all that feels good is not good.

52:51Otherwise, we'd all be hedonists.

52:53Well, that was a profound quote that you said that the fate of human civilization rests on that quarter second of intervention.

52:59And I thought about that quite a lot for a little bit more than a quarter second, it turns out.

53:04And I'm still pondering that point.

53:07But thank you so much for your insight.

53:08Thank you for spending time with us today.

53:10Stefan Molyneux, and the website is freedomain.com.

53:15God bless you, Stefan.

53:16Thank you for all that you do.

53:17I appreciate that.

53:18Thank you for your lovely site that hosts my videos and your friendship over the years.

53:21It's been a real treasure for me, and I look forward to seeing you on Twitter.

53:24You as well.

53:25Okay, take care now.

53:27And thank all of you for watching.

53:28I hope you enjoyed this interview.

53:30Love, love this guest.

53:31He's just a real treasure for humanity.

53:34You will become a better person as you interact with his information, learn more, and embrace whatever parts of his philosophy resonate with you.

53:42So thank you for watching today.

53:43I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.

53:45Take care, everybody.

53:53Happy Independence Day.

53:55Look, I love this holiday because, of course, I love independence from British rule and the tyranny of the king.

54:02As an American and a Texan, of course, we are celebrating Independence Day with some specials for you.

54:08So if you go to healthrangerstore.com slash July 4, the numeral 4, you'll see our door buster specials.

54:16And you'll also see that we've got free gifts for you.

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54:33And I'm actually going to open one of these and just show you the convenience of this.

54:38I mean, think about this.

54:40How many companies actually eat the products they sell?

54:43Like, you don't see that in the military industrial complex.

54:46They're not eating cruise missiles, although maybe they should.

54:51But we eat what we sell.

54:53So here we go.

54:55These are incredibly convenient and they're super delicious snacks.

55:00These are dried certified organic mango slices.

55:05And you can just eat them like a like a snack.

55:09It's like candy.

55:15Oh, Rhodey, you want some too?

55:18Hey, Rhodey, you want some mango?

55:20Yeah, come on around.

55:21Let me give you some mango.

55:22Come on.

55:23Come on around.

55:25Come on, Rhodey.

55:26Come on up.

55:27Yeah, come on up.

55:28Come on.

55:29Here we go.

55:30Okay.

55:31You ready for some mango?

55:31Come on.

55:32Come on up.

55:34Up.

55:35Yes, good boy.

55:36Okay.

55:37You ready for some mango?

55:38Yeah, good boy.

55:40Do you like the mango?

55:42He likes the mango too.

55:44We both are loving the mango.

55:46You want some more mango?

55:46Come on up.

55:48Come on.

55:50Come on up.

55:51Okay.

55:52Good boy.

55:52You ready for some more mango?

55:54You ready?

55:55Okay.

55:55Here you go.

55:57Yay.

55:57All right.

55:59So this is incredibly delicious.

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56:04It's not freeze dried.

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56:41Take advantage of all of this and more through Sunday night, July 6th, just by going to healthrangerstore.com slash July 4th.

56:50That's the numeral 4th.

56:52And thank you for all your support.

56:53And you're going to love these mango slices.

56:56And I'm going to enjoy these next because you can't beat Mother Nature when it comes to nutrition and taste and the cleanliness of the organic fruit.

57:06Right?

57:06It's amazing.

57:07Thank you for your support.

57:08Happy Independence Day, America.

57:11We love this country.

57:12God bless America.

57:13And God bless Texas.

57:15Take care.