An alternate juror in the Diddy case says all the evidence about baby oil didn't help the prosecution's case in the end, but he thinks the point was to paint the defendant as a hard-core criminal freak.
00:00Diddy's defense lawyer Mark Agnifolo mocked the prosecution during closing about baby oil and Astroglide and made a point that there were 70 Homeland Security agents and they were able to make America safer by taking baby oil off the streets.
00:24And Astroglide. Do you think the prosecution making a big deal of that hurt their case?
00:36I don't think so. No, I don't think I don't think it hurt their case. They just presented this is this is just the way that they wanted to present it.
00:44It was that part was, you know, it was a good it was a nice humorous injunction. And, you know, I think the whole court laughed when when when he had said that it was hard to contain ourselves a little bit.
00:56But I don't think it I don't think it hurt or or help their case. But it was just evidence that they presented.
01:02What was it what was the evidence in your view? I mean, what was the point of it?
01:07I think they wanted to show, you know, and also, I think the defense just wanted to I mean, sorry, the prosecution wanted to, you know, to like it embarrasses is a is a bad word to use.
01:25I'm trying to think of a better word. But that's a question. Was it used to embarrass and to kind of paint him as a freaky guy?
01:36I mean, a thousand bottles of baby oil. What do you think? Because listen, you had to receive the information.
01:43Yeah. What did you think was behind it? Was it too embarrassed? Was it to kind of paint him that way?
01:49Or do you think it was relevant to the criminal charges?
01:53I think it was to prove something criminally, because I mean, if it was just to embarrass, it wouldn't because the prosecution's job is not to just embarrass and mock.
02:02Or to make him look like a freak.
02:06Well, I mean, I think they did want to, you know, point you wanted to they wanted to paint him as, you know, a freaky, you know, head of basically an enterprise kind of a guy.
02:18This big like mob boss kind of a thing with underlings that are just doing his job with oils and Astroglide.
02:25So I think they had wanted, but they presented it as evidence.
02:28But again, we looked at all the evidence equally, you know, whatever is presented to us, we, you know, we consider everything, you know, together based on the judge's instructions.
02:41Do you think that those videos, the freak off videos helped the prosecution in showing Cassie was doing it without her consent?
02:52Or in your view, did it hurt because you felt she was into it and not kind of objecting?
03:00How did you view it?
03:02When looking at it again, it was it varied in length and in some parts of it were, you know, it was just, you know, basically it was Cassie or Jane rubbing baby oil on the escort.
03:15And then some were more graphic with, you know, they were engaging in sex.
03:20So, and again, it wasn't, we didn't see the entirety of all the videos, but you know, they show different snippets.
03:27But from what I saw in from whatever, from both sides that I saw, it all did seem consensual.
03:35It did nothing seemed like it was forced.
03:38Um, and I think, um, so yeah, I'll just leave it like that.
03:44There has been criticism that prosecutors brought this case in the first place.
03:50Mark Agnifolo actually told us in a documentary seven months ago that this was bedroom police, as he put it, going into Diddy's bedroom because they didn't like the way it was.
04:04Like the way he had sex.
04:07I think that was in his opening argument, too.
04:10I think he said something to the like, I think, or he didn't because he wasn't given the opening argument.
04:15But I think, I think the defense said something to that liking.
04:18But I'm sorry, I'm sorry for interrupting you.
04:20But I think they did.
04:21No, no.
04:22That's, they did bring it up.
04:23What do you think of that argument?
04:25I mean, the charges that the prosecution, you know, put forward were very serious charges.
04:33So I don't think that they were just going after, you know, they were, they were after him because of red bedroom talk.
04:39I don't think that, I mean, that's their argument.
04:41The government would, you know, counter that and said that he was, you know, a dangerous, you know, head of an enterprise, you know, and, and, and, um, you know, forcing people to do, you know, various things.
04:55So that was just his argument.
04:57But, you know, we, as jurors, we, we are, you know, and as a juror, I was looking at just at all sides and trying to be as impartial and just consider all the evidence based off of what the, um, the judge charges us, charged me to look at.
05:13Do you think Diddy, um, was behind the explosion in, uh, Kincutty's car?
05:23I think there was an, I think the defense poked enough holes that I don't, you know, there's no clear evidence to show that, um, that he was responsible or not.
05:33What about the.
05:34What about the.
05:35Beyond a reasonable doubt.
05:36What about the alleged kidnapping of Capricorn Clark?
05:40Again, I, I think when you look at all the evidence that was presented from both sides and you hear both arguments and you view all the testimony, I don't think there was enough evidence.
05:50Uh, I think there was, you know, meet that bar, um, beyond a reasonable doubt, I don't think that was met.
