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02:03Just the media and the outpour of just misinformation and things like that, I mean, but he's strong.
02:13He got dressed every morning. He came to court. He was there, and he was there for the verdict.
02:18So I give him, he's a strong, strong person.
02:22Jermaine, you said he was not eating much during the trial. Is he at least getting fed well now?
02:28Well, he was eating sandwiches and things like that, but it's just very tough.
02:35It was just a tough time, and any human being to go through that and to come out the way he did, they're very strong.
02:43But he's eating now?
02:46Yes, he's eating.
02:47He did a brief, there's a brief statement on his website. Naturally, people want to hear more.
02:52Do you expect Michael to do a major interview somewhere or to come out and do a press?
02:57What do you expect from him publicly?
03:00I really don't know yet. I mean, the family is meeting.
03:05We're coming together and sort of just sort of trying to get all this behind us to move forward.
03:11And Michael has just been unbelievably strong through this whole ordeal.
03:17But he's, I'm pretty sure he's just looking to rest.
03:21That's what's most important, to rest and get his mind back and just focus on just being a person.
03:29Nothing about doing this or doing, doing that, but just resting.
03:33That's the most important.
03:35Do you think he's wary of media now?
03:37A little wary of any kind of interviews after the Bashir thing?
03:40You think he'll hesitate to do anything?
03:42His lawyer last night appeared with us for an hour, and Tom said he'd recommend that he lay low for a while.
03:50I recommend that, too.
03:52And that's what he's feeling as well.
03:55But it's just very, very sad that the media and just certain people have hidden agendas.
04:02I mean, as you know, Larry, we've been beat up.
04:05We've been beat down.
04:07But still, we stand.
04:09And we've stayed strong.
04:10And it's because of the family unity that kept us strong through all the adversities and the false accusations.
04:16And to accuse someone of something like this is just horrendous.
04:21But at the same time, he has family.
04:23And he has the love of his family and what kept him strong.
04:26And God, which is first, and the supporters from around the world.
04:32I always say it.
04:33My brother's 1,000% innocent.
04:38Mesero said it last night.
04:39But do you think that a lot of people in the media were unfair, were ganging up on Michael, convicted him before the trial started?
04:48Absolutely.
04:49But even before the trial started, Larry, when you look at how many times, how many warrants they went into his property, how it was done, the bail, and just to take his passport like he's a fugitive, like he's going to run.
05:07I mean, to treat a person like this, especially Michael Jackson, who's just the most wonderful person.
05:14I mean, it saddens me deeply because it's 2005, but yet we haven't gone anywhere.
05:24I mean, I call this, as you know, a modern-day lynching.
05:28And I really meant that because people, they all just jumped on him.
05:34And I have an 18-page thing of this ongoing charities and things that he's done around the world from every corner of the globe, helping people, giving, giving so much.
05:53The world needs to see this.
05:54They need to know who he really is.
05:56And when you look at the song Childhood and you listen to that song and you listen to what he's saying, we're not ready.
06:03We have so far to go.
06:06And we're in the year 2005.
06:08That's what saddens me because we should be proud.
06:12America should be proud to have someone like a Michael Jackson.
06:16But you'll agree, Jermaine, that it was difficult for people to comprehend a grown man who has boys who sleep in his bed.
06:23Right? I mean, that's, it's just unusual to understand that.
06:27Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
06:28Larry, let me stop you right there.
06:31Michael does not sleep in the bed with children.
06:34Also, Michael's quarters at his ranch is the size of a 2,000 or more square foot condo.
06:43Okay?
06:43And at the same time, Michael does not sleep in the bed with children.
06:48So, that was the misunderstanding that everybody put out there.
06:53And the fact that he loved and cared about children so much.
06:56Listen to the song Childhood and you'll find out who Michael Jackson is.
07:01And he's been trying to tell the world this since day one.
07:04They don't want to hear that.
07:05And it's really crazy that even the prosecution and even the authorities, and I say the authorities up in Santa Maria, would just jump on him and not even care if their witnesses or their accusers were credible.
07:26Well, Tom, Tom Ezereau said last night that he might recommend a case, a suit on your part of malicious prosecution.
07:35Do you think the prosecutors didn't think they had a case?
07:38You think they were just obsessed with your brother?
07:41They were obsessed because Tom Sneddon had a person of vendetta.
07:49He spent the taxpayers' money up there, which they should really do an investigation on him and the whole organization up there.
07:57I'll say it again.
07:58This is what I feel.
07:59It should be a thorough evaluation of people who are in authority because to have a person of vendetta against anyone, especially someone of status,
08:10and then put it before the press, and the press jumps on it, and they blow it all out of proportion.
08:17Is that fair?
08:18I mean, is this constitutional?
08:21Is this the time and age that we're living in?
08:23I will say this, though.
08:25The jurors and the whole Santa Maria County has been wonderful because this is what makes us smile.
08:32This is what makes us smile.
08:34Let me get a break, and we'll come back.
08:35We'll be taking calls for Jermaine.
08:36No one believed that.
08:37Hold it, Jermaine.
08:38We've got to take a break.
08:39We'll take calls for Jermaine Jackson.
08:40He mentioned the song.
08:41As we go to break, here is Michael Jackson's childhood.
08:46Have you seen my childhood?
08:54I'm searching for that wonder in my youth.
08:59Like fantastic old stories to share.
09:04The dreams I would dare watch me lie.
09:08We're back with Jermaine Jackson.
09:16We'll be taking your calls in a while.
09:17I want to cover some areas that are being reported.
09:20Jermaine, there's reports that Michael may take part in Bob Geldof's Live 8 concert series.
09:25There's a British press claiming he is keen to participate.
09:29It's planned to happen in advance of the G8 summit on July 6th.
09:33Do you know anything about that?
09:34No, I don't.
09:36No, I don't.
09:37Is there speculation he might leave the United States, that he doesn't feel comfortable here
09:41anymore?
09:42Well, we've always had a love for other places outside the U.S., and I don't know.
09:50But I do know that he needs to go and get some rest somewhere.
09:55Do you think he might want to leave the car?
09:57I mean, change residence.
09:59I would.
10:01Yes, I'm pretty sure.
10:03I mean, Michael's an American.
10:06He's born here.
10:06African-American.
10:07He's born here.
10:08He's done so much for the world, so much for people, so much for America.
10:14And I say it again.
10:14We should be proud.
10:16The U.S. should be proud that he's been just a positive representation from America for the
10:23world.
10:23And instead, they're the ones who's trying to put him under.
10:29So you wouldn't be surprised if he lived somewhere else?
10:34I'd be right with him, yes.
10:36I wouldn't be surprised.
10:37The Hollywood Reporter says that your family is pushing a reality television series.
10:43Is there any truth to that?
10:45The family's pushing what?
10:47A reality television series.
10:49I've never heard anything like that, Larry.
10:52That's a surprise to me.
10:53That's something new.
10:55Do you hear a lot of strange reports?
10:57It's a lot that goes on.
11:00And what's sad about it, when it gets to the media, they report and they inject their opinions
11:07instead of reporting the truth.
11:10It's just people talk.
11:11And then rumors spread that are not true and things evolve into just a lot of horrendous lies.
11:18Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies.
11:20We spoke to your mom earlier.
11:22How's she doing?
11:23How's your mother doing?
11:28Larry, I can't hear you if you're talking.
11:30How's your mother doing?
11:33My mother's doing wonderful.
11:35We are very, very happy.
11:37It's been a tremendous load off of her and the whole entire family.
11:41Like I said, we are rejoicing now.
11:43And she's been wonderful because she's been in that courthouse every day with her son.
11:49And she would have done it for any one of us because she knew in her heart that he was
11:53a thousand percent innocent.
11:54And at the same time, she was there.
11:58She's a mother who cared for her child.
12:01And my father was there.
12:03And we were only allowed six seats, Larry.
12:05That's why we couldn't come in there because, you know, we're a family of 11.
12:09And that's strength.
12:11That's unity.
12:13And the judge did not allow us all to be in that courtroom at the same time.
12:19But we were there.
12:20So we took turns and we all just sort of changed up at times.
12:26Now, Tito happened to be in the courtroom.
12:28You were in the courthouse, but not in the courtroom.
12:31How did you hear the verdict?
12:32What was your first reaction?
12:35Okay.
12:35What had happened was Janet and I went upstairs and we were sort of pacing the floor.
12:42And we were just, so we went, so they put us in a room, a private room.
12:48And I heard all this, I heard all this screaming and fans cheering and screaming.
12:54So I walked over to the window and I looked out the window and every time there was a scream,
12:58there was a dove release.
12:59I guess they were releasing doves for each count.
13:03And then I went back into the room and then all of a sudden somebody ran upstairs and said he was innocent on all 10 counts.
13:11And we just screamed and jumped up.
13:13And it was just the most wonderful moment.
13:15God is real.
13:17And we thank everyone around the world, especially the black community who has been there since day one.
13:26His fans who come from all around the world.
13:29And it's the positive energy and the prayers.
13:31Michael's done a lot of good, Larry, a lot of good.
13:34And I wish the world can see he's the number one charitable supporter from any celebrity.
13:42It's in the world's Guinness Book of Records.
13:44And people need to know this.
13:45Are you surprised then that Gallup, CNN USA Today, Gallup poll says 48% of the people disagreed with the verdict, 27% were pleased.
13:55Is that one of the reasons why you're thinking about living somewhere else?
13:59Listen, listen, listen.
14:00Out, Larry, listen.
14:02This is my point.
14:04The media bashed my family and Michael all during this trial.
14:09They bashed him.
14:11They talked about him.
14:12Even other legal people.
14:16And at the same time, they say, okay, let's go to the polls.
14:19Let's take a poll.
14:21Okay, we didn't want to talk.
14:23So you tell me if that's all they're hearing is negativity and still the polls were favorable towards us.
14:31But you can't just talk about someone so much and then say, let's go to the polls.
14:36That's the system in which we live.
14:38We know why they were doing that.
14:41And at the same time, we said, my brother's innocent.
14:45And he will come through all of this.
14:48Are you also angry at Court TV?
14:50Tom singled them out last night.
14:53I don't even want to talk about them because they're ignorant to even make statements like that.
15:01And I won't mention any names because they don't deserve that.
15:05But the fact that what happened to this country?
15:10What happened to just knowing the facts, reporting the news, not injecting your own opinion?
15:15What happened to this?
15:16I mean, this is America.
15:20But what happened?
15:21I mean, we were five kids that grew up in Gary, Indiana, worked hard, worked hard, had strong people behind us to launch our careers and the whole Motown thing, which set the foundation for all of the success you see.
15:34And we went on with our lives and to be faced with something like this.
15:40We tried the system and justice was served.
15:43You have come out of this bitter.
15:45For how many other people out there, Larry, how many other people out there tried the system and it doesn't work for them?
15:51So we're happy that Michael has been found not guilty, innocent.
15:57But at the same time, why did it have to come this far?
16:01Let me get a break and come back.
16:02We'll take calls for Jermaine in a little while.
16:04He's with us for the full hour.
16:05Billy Graham, tomorrow night.
16:06Don't go away.
16:26Jermaine Jackson's our guest.
16:28Michael has paid millions to settle previous allegations.
16:31Tom Meserot said last night that he had bad advice.
16:35Michael shouldn't have paid anything.
16:37Do you agree?
16:39Yes, I agree.
16:40But during the time, Michael was on tour.
16:44Janet was on tour.
16:45My mother was very ill.
16:46And it's just he felt that it wasn't the time to fight.
16:52But this time he fought.
16:54And we were victorious.
16:58The impact on his future behavior.
16:59Do you think he's going to change some of the things he does just for public image?
17:06Larry, there, okay, Michael is not a weird person.
17:13Michael is not, I mean, this is just a bunch of talk, calling him wacko jacko, all these crazy names.
17:19He doesn't do anything.
17:20Have you ever heard of him throwing televisions out of the hotel windows and setting fires and doing this and that?
17:28I mean, that behavior goes on in our industry as we know that.
17:32But I guess it's because they pick on him because he is the largest, largest entertainer in the world.
17:40And they will find something to say.
17:43I mean, there are things that he's going to change.
17:45Right.
17:46Like.
17:46Excuse me?
17:47Like.
17:48Well, not to let people get so close to him.
17:52And we're going to make sure of that as well.
17:57Nor is not to let anybody take advantage of him.
18:00Well, people come around you and they smile, but they have a hidden agenda.
18:07And we are faced with that every day.
18:09And everybody who's patting you on your back is not your friend.
18:13But at the same time, it's up to us to know who's who.
18:17And I do know that all my brothers, we will make sure that these type of people stay far away, far away.
18:29Is he, do you think he'll ever write a book?
18:34I really don't know, Larry.
18:36I really don't know.
18:38In his song about being a victim, about his song, Billy Jean, he described himself as a victim.
18:46Do you think he's a victim?
18:47Is that a correct term to apply to him?
18:51Well, when you're in an industry and you're out in the public,
18:56you're victims of all types of things.
19:00And his music influences.
19:04People take the context of his lyrics the wrong way.
19:08And things happen.
19:10I fear sometimes when I'm out.
19:12And now, since Michael's been vindicated, we all just, we all have to be careful.
19:21I mean, we, we, we love the fact that the family held up and there was a family support.
19:30But still, at the same time, you never know when someone's plotting and planning.
19:34Would you describe your brother as childlike?
19:40I would describe my brother as a person who was in search of a childhood that he never had.
19:48But at the same time, he was around adults.
19:50And when you're around adults all the time, you, you, you hear,
19:56who wants to hear about the, all the, the ugly things that are going on in the world?
20:02I mean, Michael's a person who loves peace.
20:04He's a very humble person.
20:07I call him St. Michael because he's the most wonderful person I know.
20:11And, and I mean that.
20:13He's a wonderful, wonderful person.
20:15When you get that big though, does anyone say no to him?
20:20Because sometimes you can get so big, you have power.
20:22Does he have people around him who say no?
20:25Yes.
20:26My mother tells him no.
20:28Randy tells him no.
20:31We tell him no.
20:33But at the same time, when you've had so much success, you, you, you feel that your way is a positive way.
20:43Is the way to go about things.
20:46And I'm referring to just, just the day-to-day things that he, that, that, that he does with his music and making decisions and, and creative decisions and things like that.
20:57Will he entertain again?
20:58Will he entertain again?
21:02I think so.
21:03But, um, that's on him.
21:04He's, uh, he's in his blood.
21:08And I think, um, he's, um, just resting.
21:11He's resting, he's always got time or an ear for a melody or a, a nice beat, but it, it, it, it's been so much negative, just, the whole environment has been totally negative, what they've done to him.
21:28But at the same time, he's, he's, he's strong.
21:31He's not going to let it beat him down.
21:32He's going to stand and move forward with his life.
21:35He must miss applause.
21:37He must miss a stage.
21:38You're probably right, but he has a stage at home.
21:44He has a stage, stage at home.
21:46And we can give him, we've, we're giving him all the applause he needs.
21:51And we'll take a break and come back and go to phone calls.
21:54We'll go to phone calls for Jermaine Jackson.
21:56A couple of program notes.
21:57Billy Graham tomorrow night.
21:58Shania Twain on Friday.
22:00Saturday night, Bob Costas hosts Vanessa Redgrave.
22:03And on Sunday night on Larry King Live, you'll meet my children on Father's Day night.
22:09We'll be right back with Jermaine Jackson and your phone calls right after this.
22:13We'll be right back with Jermaine Jackson.
22:43Jermaine Jackson, Columbus, Georgia, as we go to calls.
22:45Hello.
22:46Hi, Larry and Jermaine.
22:47Jermaine, you said just a few minutes ago that the jurors were wonderful.
22:51How do you feel about juror number one on numerous interviews saying that he truly believes that
22:55Michael has molested young boys and has the tendency to do so?
22:59Well, that's just his opinion.
23:01But the bottom line is, I know, Michael knows, God knows in his heart that he's been a wonderful person.
23:10He's never done anything like that.
23:13Mobile, Alabama.
23:15Hello.
23:15Hi, Larry.
23:16And thanks for your very fair and balanced show.
23:19Thank you.
23:19Hi, Jermaine.
23:20Will Michael consider filing a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against Tom Sneddon and Entourage for
23:30this very unfair and horrific crime that's been committed against him?
23:36Well, I really don't know what he's going to do, but I would.
23:42Tom Mesereau said he would, too.
23:44If we're up to you, you would take action.
23:47Kick their butts.
23:48They tried to bury him, Larry.
23:51They tried to bury him, but they made him bigger.
23:55Santa Maria, California.
23:57Hello.
23:57Hi, Mr. King.
23:59This is Diane.
24:00I'm wondering, Jermaine, as a personal person who does know Mr. Sneddon and what he can do
24:06to families, I'm wondering if Mr. Jackson, your brother Michael, will be receiving or seeking
24:10counseling for the victimization he's received or endured at the hands of, quote, City Hall
24:16here in Santa Barbara County.
24:18I gather you're not a fan of the prosecutor.
24:20Well, is Michael going to seek some psychological help just for all that's happened to him?
24:26I think Michael is going to rest and he's going to, the psychological help Michael has is his family.
24:35And I wouldn't say it's just down-home family love.
24:39But I do think there will be a time that the prosecutors and all that will be dealt with.
24:44But right now he's resting and we're rejoicing.
24:49And my mother is very, very happy.
24:52She's very happy.
24:53What is his financial situation?
24:56Well, I'll say this, Larry.
24:59Michael is no way, as they all sang, broke.
25:03When you have an incredible, incredible asset instrument like the catalog and when you have other things, I mean, who's broke?
25:14I mean, look at major organizations like AT&T and some of the major Fortune 500 companies out there.
25:21They tighten their belts at certain times.
25:23So this is a belt tightening time.
25:26But Michael's no way broke.
25:28And he's still the number one superstar in the world, bigger than what he was before.
25:34What does he own the music rights to, what, the Beatles and what else?
25:39Probably everybody's music now, Larry.
25:43But it's so much, there's not enough time that we can go into that.
25:48But he's been very wise and very smart.
25:50But the bottom line, he's a person.
25:52Let's forget about money.
25:53Let's forget about all those things.
25:55Michael's a human being.
25:56And that's what's wrong with this country now.
25:58They judge people on how much money they have.
26:01What about the person he is, the love of a person and the love that you give to others?
26:08What happened to that?
26:09What do we look for?
26:10If a person walks around and say, I have all this money, everybody flocks to him.
26:14That's not what life's supposed to be about.
26:16I mean, judge him as to who he is.
26:19Listen to his lyrics.
26:21Listen, look at what he's done.
26:23Look at what he's done around the world.
26:24Every corner of the globe, charities, millions and millions and millions of dollars, hundreds
26:29of millions given to people of all walks of life.
26:35He didn't deserve what happened to him.
26:38Wright City, Missouri.
26:39Hello.
26:39Hi, Jermaine.
26:41I'm so happy that Michael was found innocent.
26:44My question is, will Michael continue helping cancer patients like he did before?
26:49I know he did an awful lot for kids with cancer, and I think it would be a shame if he had to stop.
26:55Good question.
26:56I'm pretty sure he will, because one apple didn't spoil the whole bunch.
27:02It's like something that's so beautiful and godly, like to help and give to others.
27:11That's what we've been taught.
27:13That's how we've been raised.
27:14And that's the blessing that God has given us, to have such talent and such international
27:22appeal to give back to others.
27:24So I'm pretty sure he will, because that's what he was blessed with, with all this talent
27:29and all this success, is to give back to others and give other people a much brighter life.
27:34And that's what Neverland is all about.
27:36I mean, it's about giving children who are terminally ill and on their last days that last bit of joy,
27:42not to do what they said.
27:45It's a beautiful place.
27:47It's a wonderful, wonderful, beautiful place, Neverland.
27:51Jermaine, siblings always have disagreements.
27:53What about your brother don't you like?
27:57What aspect through your life with him bothers you?
28:01He's too nice.
28:02And they say I'm like that, too, but I see myself a little different than Michael,
28:11but at the same time, he's my brother.
28:14This is how we were raised.
28:15But he's very strong in business, but that would be the thing.
28:21He's just too nice.
28:22So you're saying he's not weak.
28:25He's nice.
28:27No, he's not weak at all.
28:28Please believe me, because it took a strong man to show up at that court, Larry, every day.
28:33To hear this rubbish and all this stupid stuff said about you.
28:37And then this whole thing was just to sling his name through the mud.
28:41And I'll say this.
28:42Wait, wait, wait.
28:43This is really important.
28:46It's like there are conspirators out there who were behind this whole entire thing.
28:50It's almost like a magician.
28:52They throw this child molestation crap on you with the right hand while the left hand is trying to do something else.
28:57So this was the whole plan.
28:59But at the same time, we always said Michael's 1,000% innocent.
29:03Now the conspirators out there, yeah, they are shaking in their boots because they know we know.
29:08And we knew from day one.
29:10And it's not going to work.
29:11They're not going to get away with this.
29:13Although not guilty doesn't mean innocent.
29:15You can't declare someone innocent.
29:16They declare them not guilty.
29:18But when you say too nice, you mean he gives to people too much?
29:24He's easily swayed?
29:26No, he gives too much.
29:28And he wants to help everyone.
29:33And that's what his music's been about.
29:35He's a soft touch.
29:37The building of Neverland.
29:39He's a soft touch, but he's strong when he needs to be.
29:41But this was a situation that he thought that he could help.
29:48And it turned out to be they had a hidden agenda.
29:51They had a hidden agenda.
29:52And it's sad that Snetten did not evaluate his accusers and his witnesses.
29:59They had no credibility but to shame someone.
30:02That's why I said the authorities up there, they need to do a better evaluation of people, judges and DAs and this and that.
30:09Because you can't do this.
30:11This is not constitutional.
30:13This is not America.
30:15We'll be back with more of Jermaine Jackson right after this.
30:17I'll reach out my hand to you.
30:24I'll have faith in all you do.
30:30Just call my name and I'll be there.
30:37He was very down.
30:39He was, he just didn't understand why people didn't believe him.
30:44A little cynical about the system.
30:47And I just encouraged him and told him what a hero he was and how courageous he was to come forward and that he did the right thing.
30:53And that it was time for him to move on with his life and never look back because he did, he did the right thing.
31:00And how much we believed in him and supported him.
31:05That was Tom Snetten talking about the accuser.
31:08Any comment on that, Jermaine?
31:09I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth because I'll tell you why.
31:14It doesn't take a hundred times to go into somebody's property for something like this, which was a lie in the first place.
31:23And if you look at the family, there was no credibility, even from the mother.
31:30From all the things that she, I feel that this was all planned.
31:34We know this was all planned.
31:35And for Snetten to go into this property so, so many times, as I said before, I wasn't worried about what they were going to take out.
31:41I was worried about what they were going to put in there.
31:43Tell me about.
31:44Tell me about the book that they keep bringing up.
31:46How's, how's Michael's kids doing?
31:48In the, in the, this is a wacky world.
31:51Do, are they kind of normal life?
31:53Do they go to school?
31:55Yes.
31:56They, my kids play with them and they're, they're fine.
31:59They're, Michael's a wonderful father.
32:02He changed diapers.
32:03He, he, he does it all.
32:06And he's very, very keen on making sure his kids are disciplined.
32:09And Michael's no wacky entertainer out there that doesn't, doesn't care about his, his kids and this and that.
32:16I mean, he, he's a wonderful father.
32:18He's had a lot of brothers to learn from.
32:20Are they sheltered when they go to school?
32:22Are they watched?
32:24No, no.
32:26They, they, they have, they have private school.
32:29But at the same time, he wants them to be able to interact with the, with children.
32:35So we bring our, ours, ours over and they get a chance to do things.
32:38But you hear a lot of things, Larry, and it's up to, I guess, the public to know what, what the truth is.
32:45It's, it's very hard.
32:46It's very hard.
32:47Were you happy with Debbie Rowe on the stand?
32:50Tom last night said he was very pleased with her, even though she was a prosecution witness.
32:56I was very pleased.
32:57I was in the Middle East during the time, but I was very pleased because they tried everything.
33:04I felt that the judge worked with the prosecution.
33:07They didn't allow us anything.
33:10Michael wasn't allowed to use the bathroom half, half the time.
33:14And we weren't allowed to even to sit there.
33:15There were empty seats there.
33:16We could, we couldn't sit there.
33:18And this is what it is.
33:19They tried to strip us of every bit of truth and strength that we portrayed as a family.
33:24The judge, too?
33:25But still, we prevailed.
33:26We prevailed.
33:27You include the judge?
33:29Yes.
33:30New York City, hello.
33:31Yes, hello.
33:32Hi, Larry.
33:33Hi, Jermaine.
33:34My question to Jermaine is, is Michael going to take Donald Trump up on his offer of doing
33:41a headline show in Vegas when he's better?
33:44Sweetie, I don't know anything about that.
33:48But Donald Trump has been a friend in the past.
33:50And if that's what he wants to do, that's what he'll do.
33:55Donald Trump has done nothing but praise your brother.
33:57But he doesn't have the hotel in Vegas yet.
34:00So it would be premature.
34:02But that's a possibility he would work Vegas, wouldn't he?
34:05He was always big there.
34:06Well, we started out in Vegas as children, but we started out at the Apollo, but we played
34:14Vegas.
34:15And I'm pretty, he loves Las Vegas, so you never know.
34:18Miami, hello.
34:19Hi, Jermaine.
34:20I have a question and a comment.
34:22I wanted to say that I've loved Michael my whole life and have never doubted his innocence.
34:28And what he said, lives run sprints, but the truth runs marathons, is true.
34:32I just wanted to know, how did you feel about the media coverage, especially Court TV and
34:40Nancy Grace, whom I thought was extremely unprofessional?
34:44Well, I asked him about Court TV.
34:46He didn't want to name names, but you were very critical of the whole network.
34:50I'll just say this.
34:51My mother and father's attorney, Deborah Opry, was banned from Court TV, but after she
34:59had really bashed you-know-who, which I don't want to even mention their names.
35:05But the media has been very unfair because they have not reported the news.
35:12They've injected opinions, and that's not what a reporter's supposed to do.
35:16You're supposed to report.
35:18We'll take a break and be back with more of Jermaine Jackson, more of your phone calls.
35:22Don't go away.
35:41This is a very historic room here where we are right now because this is where the meeting
35:46took place for the Jackson Victory Tour, 1984 tour that broke all records, of course.
35:54We were sitting here on the couches and negotiating and talking and sort of getting our ideas together
36:00creatively what we're going to do on stage live, real singing.
36:04So we're very proud of this room.
36:08Speaking of that, Jermaine, how about a Jackson Family Reunion Tour?
36:12That sounds good, Larry.
36:16I mean, you would do that, right?
36:17Sounds very good.
36:18You think Michael would do it?
36:21We're ready.
36:22We're ready.
36:25By the way, in all honesty-
36:27Victory, too.
36:28Are you- are you-
36:29Victory, too.
36:30Are you, Jermaine, a bitter winner?
36:34A bitter winner in what sense?
36:36Can you-
36:36That you- you have won, you are happy, but at the same time, very bitter at the whole turn
36:42of events?
36:45I- I'm not bitter, I'm just disappointed in the system.
36:49Uh, Michael didn't get off because of money, because of his popularity, he got off because
36:55he was innocent, and- and they never presented a case.
36:59But at the same time, I'm bitter because he's done so much, we've done so much.
37:06We represent this country, and for them to act as if we were some- from somewhere else,
37:12I mean, it's-
37:14So there is some- there's some bitterness.
37:16Yeah.
37:18Yeah, but we move on.
37:19We have to be bigger than that.
37:20We have to be- we have to move on, but it's hard to turn the other cheek.
37:25I mean, they tried to bury us.
37:27They tried to bury us, Larry, because you would be the same- same way, right?
37:30Mm-hmm.
37:31Well, if I thought I was being buried, I'd be mad, yeah.
37:34Big- big- big Rapids, Michigan, hello.
37:37Hi, Larry.
37:38Hi, Jermaine.
37:39Hi.
37:39I'm a huge fan of Michael.
37:41Hi.
37:41He saved my life as a child, and, um, I would, um, love to let him know that.
37:47My question is, will there be a victory party for the fans?
37:50Well, um, um, Randy- Randy is arranging things now.
37:57He's done a wonderful job in pulling the team together for, uh, Michael, and I guess, uh,
38:03that's, uh, that's- that's in the plans.
38:06I spoke to him just before I came on.
38:08So there might be a party put together for the people who supported him?
38:14Absolutely.
38:15They came so far, Larry.
38:16The fans said they put out so much positive energy in the prayers.
38:21One time I was leaving the gates, and they were standing and holding hands in a circle,
38:26and- and just that positive light, that positive energy.
38:29And that's what it was.
38:30And I think everyone from around the globe, and here, and far, and- and near, be- because
38:36they know who Michael is.
38:38And if you can get past the media, and get to the fans, and to the public, they know who
38:43he is.
38:44Poughkeepsie, New York.
38:45Hello.
38:45Hi, Jermaine.
38:46Hi, Larry.
38:47Hi.
38:47I'd like to know, how has Michael been feeling?
38:50And if he has any plans on going on tour, or to record a new CD?
38:54All right.
38:55We've asked about touring.
38:56How about recording?
38:58Well, I really don't know.
39:00Right now, he's resting.
39:02He's, um, just- he doesn't have to wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning anymore.
39:08He was there every day, Larry.
39:10He was there.
39:10They thought he would flee.
39:12They thought he would run, and- but he's, um, he loves music.
39:17I'm pretty sure he's always gonna sing.
39:20And, uh, but right now, that's not important.
39:22What's important for him, just to get himself back, and to- just to be a human being, a- a person
39:28again.
39:28We'll be back with Remaining Moments with Jermaine Jackson.
39:32Don't go away.
39:32Jermaine, it's been no secret that the family has feuded in the past.
39:36Jermaine, it's been no secret that the family has feuded in the past.
40:00There have been public feuds, and problems with your dad, and growing up.
40:04Has this, in a sense, brought the family closer together?
40:08Well, this has brought us closer, uh, but at the same time, we're a family, uh, we're- we're
40:17no different from any other family who has feuds and- and- and problems.
40:20Life- what is life without problems?
40:22I mean, but at the same time, we're united.
40:26And, uh, uh, we have a united front that- that is very, very strong, and is supported by God.
40:33And my mother and father did a great job in just instilling the morals and principles in
40:38us from the very beginning.
40:39And we feel that, with that, that's all you need.
40:43That's all you need to go through life.
40:45Your father was tough, though, was he not?
40:47Have you forgiven some of the way you were treated as a kid?
40:52I was treated fine.
40:53There is- there is nothing to forgive.
40:56I mean, any, uh, black family or any black child or just person out there listening, we
41:02grew up like any other black family.
41:04You did something, you got your butt toe up.
41:06And it wasn't toe up.
41:07It's just, you gotta spank it.
41:08And so, making this more than what that is, who's- they're looking for problems.
41:14But I will say this, it kept us off the streets, it kept us away from drugs, it kept us away
41:18from gangs, and we were able, like I said, we're five kids from Gary, Indiana, house the
41:23size of a two-car garage.
41:25But at the same time, we've been able to project a talent out there and have the support of strong
41:33people to entertain the world.
41:35So, that's a blessing from God.
41:37And so, and at the same time, having good parents.
41:41But Michael never really had a childhood.
41:43Michael never really had what could be called a normal childhood.
41:47No, because he started so early.
41:51And like I said, people would approach him.
41:53That's why he doesn't feel comfortable.
41:55And I feel the same with being around adults, because they want to talk to you about this
41:58and that and business.
41:59So, who wants to be reminded of just the world should be a better place?
42:05And that's been the challenge of men, to try to make it a better place.
42:10Do you still keep, do you ever keep in close touch with the Osmond boys?
42:15The two of you were so big together at one time.
42:17Yeah, well, I've been talking to Meryl a while back, but we've been so busy with what has just
42:24happened.
42:24And, but we stay in touch.
42:26We'll, we'll get a call from him.
42:28And I speak to Donnie on and off.
42:32And, and, and I'm pretty, I mean, we're in the same circle.
42:35So we, we run across each other or someone who's told them that we're looking for him.
42:40So what are you going to be doing, Jermaine, now that this is over?
42:45I'm going to be just probably just working on some music, starting a label and just staying
42:52strong, staying by my family, staying by my brothers.
42:55And my brothers are, we're, we're strong.
42:59We're, we're ready for whatever.
43:01If there's, there's a tour, fine.
43:02If not, we're going to continue to be a family.
43:05A United family.
43:06And, uh, we came through this because he was a thousand percent innocent.
43:09If Michael leaves, if Michael leaves the country with you, I'd be right there.
43:15You would.
43:16Right there with him.
43:17Yeah, no, we love, we love the people in America.
43:22It's been the media and we have nothing bad to say.
43:26I mean, there are some wonderful places here, but at the same time, we, there are wonderful
43:30places all around the world and we need to just travel.
43:34And, and, and, and Seymour.
43:36Yeah.
43:37Well, that would be understandable if you, if the feelings are that way, you know, all
43:41over the world is, I guess he'd be taken in.
43:43A lot of places would warmly accept the Jacksons.
43:46Thank you, Larry.
43:50Jermaine, thank you very much for giving us this hour.
43:53We appreciate it.
43:54Thank you for taking phone calls and we appreciate your spending the time with us.
43:59Thank you.
44:00Jermaine Jackson from his home in Encino, California.
44:05Tomorrow night, Billy Graham will be our guest.
44:07He is 86 years young.
44:09His health is failing.
44:10He's doing his last crusade here in New York.
44:13Billy Graham, incredible figure in American history.
44:17Special guest tomorrow night, Shania Twain on Friday.
44:20Bob Costas interviews Vanessa Redgrave Saturday night and then my children Sunday night, Father's
44:26Day.
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