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00:003 o'clock our time was the actual start of free agency.
00:04And since that time, this would be our first.
00:0995.7 The King. Breaking news.
00:15Jaron Jackson Jr. has agreed to a new five-year, $240 million renegotiation sensation.
00:27Cha-ching!
00:28Cha-ching!
00:30To stay with the Memphis Grizzlies.
00:32Oh, no!
00:33That's right.
00:34So you can go ahead and grab out your Sharpies, everybody.
00:38Pull out your bingo cards and go ahead and put a big black X right through that idea.
00:44Jaron Jackson Jr., $48 million per year.
00:48Shut up!
00:49On a five-year renegotiated deal.
00:52He was heading into the final year of his current contract, which was going to pay him about half this much.
00:57At about $24 million per year, he'll now make $48 million per year and stay with the Memphis Grizzlies.
01:04Yeah.
01:04I mean, good for J.J.J., Jaron Jackson Jr.
01:09And so now you look at the Memphis payroll and you've got Jaron Jackson Jr. making $23 million next year.
01:15And I guess then the extension would kick in after that.
01:19And you've got Jha.
01:20Where is Jha?
01:22Jha's at the bank making $39 million, then $42 million, then $45 million almost.
01:26So, I mean, does Memphis now look at that and think, okay, with just Jaron Jackson Jr. and Jha, are you a top-four team in the West?
01:36No.
01:37Are you a top-eight team?
01:38Maybe.
01:39I mean, who are you, Memphis?
01:40Would you like to know what Memphis is going to do next?
01:42Because while you were talking, that just broke.
01:44Wait a minute.
01:45Yeah.
01:46More Shams?
01:47More Shams.
01:48Shams bombs.
01:49They're coming fast.
01:50Shams bombs.
01:51Shams says, restricted free agent, Santi Aldama, has agreed to a new three-year, $52.5 million deal to also return, stick, and stay with the Memphis Grizzlies.
02:08So, that was a one-two punch.
02:10Interesting.
02:10That cost the Grizzlies almost $300 million.
02:12So, $17.5 per, roughly, three years and 52, I think it's $17.66 million a year, and, you know, thinking about Kaminga, all roads lead back to Kaminga.
02:26So, Santi Aldama, who is from the same draft class and has played about the same number of games, not as high leverage, and he's averaging 10 points a game for his career, but he's been going up, up, up, up, up.
02:41And he gets this.
02:43Now, Kaminga's better than Santi Aldama, but how much more better is he?
02:49It's an interesting comment, because I don't think you're wrong by saying he's better, but he has also been utilized less.
02:59He, like, his functionality to his particular team has had less impact than Aldama has on his.
03:08I think is the way that I'll say that.
03:09Yeah.
03:10I get where you're coming from.
03:11He's a more talented player.
03:13He's a more versatile player, but he has had less of an impact on his particular team.
03:18And, yes, I know a lot of you will immediately go, what's that team's fault?
03:21Okay, fine.
03:23Again, you can feel that way, but I like your comp.
03:27I like your thinking.
03:28And, again, I think the window into the conversations that have happened, I don't know whether to believe this report or not, but the report that did come out over the weekend that Jonathan is seeking $30 million per year,
03:40even if you think he's better than Aldama.
03:43Aldama's coming in at 17, and Jabari Smith is coming in at 24.
03:48Jonathan Kaminga, based on this market, what I'm seeing, this is not a $30 million player.
03:53And if that's what he asked the Warriors for, there's no doubt that the Warriors said no.
03:57No, and I bet no other team is going to offer him that either.
04:00It doesn't seem like it, and, you know, the word from Bobby Marks, friend of the program, has said that only Brooklyn has the money to give him $20-plus million per year.
04:10And, you know, Brooklyn's been doing so many different things.
04:12It doesn't feel to me like they're looking to be that team.
04:16All right, Kaminga, you're the guy.
04:18We want to, like, hitch our wagon to you.
04:21The interesting thing about Aldama and Kaminga, Aldama played, over the course of his first four years, 235 games.
04:29Kaminga was at 258, and they both were right at 22 minutes a game for their career.
04:35Now, Kaminga's done more with his minutes, and he's played more playoff games, obviously, and he is a better player.
04:41But I do think that when you see the Aldama contract come in where it did, just short of $18 million per year for three years,
04:49I think that three-year mark is about what Kaminga's looking at.
04:54And if it's 360, that might be where it winds up.
04:57Yep, it might be that.
04:59Keep an eye on the Miami Heat.
05:00I know that we're talking about the Brooklyn Nets having the space to do this.
05:04Miami did just have some more space clear because Duncan Robinson declined his contract.
05:11That opened up a little bit more money.
05:13I'm no expert on Miami's cap.
05:15I just know that they've consistently been named as a possible landing spot for Jonathan, and they just cleared some money.
05:21So I find that interesting, but we'll see.
05:25That's where we are right now.
05:26Free agency is open.
05:28Jaron Jackson Jr., brand-new deal to stay with the Grizzlies.
05:32He's five years, $240 million, and then Aldama, a restricted free agent, stays in Memphis for three years, $52.5 million.
05:42888-957-9570 is the number.
05:46This is Willard and Dibbs.
05:47We're taking out your calls here.
05:48Let's go to Dave in Fresno.
05:51Hi, Dave.
05:51What's going on?
05:54Hey.
05:54Yeah, you know, I think that what I would like to see done for the Warriors, I just hope, you know, with all the names being speculated, LeBron, Giannis, what I hope happens is they get some clarity with the rotation.
06:10So whoever they bring in, I hope that kind of solidifies the rotation, because I think it's been a problem since they won a championship, quite frankly.
06:22I know last year there were circumstances.
06:24You make a trade, so that made it kind of harder.
06:26But, yeah, I hope that going into next season over the summer, whoever they bring in, the agent, the trade, whoever, I just hope they can solidify their rotation and get their lineup in order.
06:39And we'll have to keep answering questions.
06:41Who's going to start this week?
06:42Who's going to start at center this week?
06:44Or who's going to start at shooting guard?
06:45Or what are we doing, Paz?
06:46What are we doing, Kamiga?
06:48Whoever they get, I hope that's where we can finally move on from these ongoing questions.
06:53Because I can go a long way to maybe, you know, really trying to compete for, you know, playoffs and obviously championships.
07:00So that's what I hope we can kind of get solved just from this.
07:04And, again, whether that's Giannis, LeBron, I don't know how you go about that.
07:08But there's a lot of questions right now.
07:10And, you know, as a Warrior fan, we kind of want answers.
07:14So that's what I'm hoping for.
07:16And I'm curious to see what you guys think about that.
07:18I know that's not really talked about.
07:19I mean, people want to talk about the names.
07:20But I think that's really important for this team.
07:23Yeah, Dave, I think Steve Kerr, to a degree, probably agrees with you.
07:27Appreciate the call.
07:28I just think where your brain is going with regard to, quote, figuring out rotations, you're aiming a little high.
07:35I know that everybody wants to sort of hope that the Warriors are kidding or that they're just hiding in the weeds when they've openly told us that it's next to impossible to acquire a player that is making north of $35 or $40 million.
07:50I don't know about y'all.
07:52I believe them.
07:53I believe them.
07:54I don't think Giannis is coming.
07:56I don't think LeBron is coming.
07:58I didn't think Jaron Jackson was coming.
08:00Like, I just, I don't think these players are coming.
08:03I don't think that's what the Warriors are going to do.
08:06And then the other part of his point, Dibs, like, quote, figuring out rotations so there's not all this movement.
08:12It's interesting.
08:13I really thought that after Jimmy Butler arrived, they did.
08:17They did.
08:18The only reason they, quote, didn't is because a healthy portion of the fan base didn't necessarily love the way it felt that Jonathan Kaminga, A, was hurt.
08:29And then when he came back, they tried to work him into the rotation.
08:32And they didn't feel great about what they were seeing.
08:36And so they did solidify the rotation.
08:38It just didn't include him anymore.
08:40So, I don't know.
08:42I thought the second half of the season, the rotation was very solidified.
08:44Well, especially when they got Jimmy Butler.
08:46It became, you know, what they were going to go with.
08:49And the rotation can't be solidified until you figure out what you're going to do with your free agents.
08:54And it's Kaminga.
08:55And it seems like GP2, Gary Payton II, the reports are that he's going to wind up going elsewhere.
09:01Kavon Looney might be somebody who comes back.
09:04And if you bring in Al Horford, which they're rumored to be hot and heavy after Al is a free agent, then, you know, you start to look at your rotation.
09:12And maybe at that point, Kavon Looney doesn't come back.
09:15And we know that Guy Santos and Quentin Post both had their options, their team options picked up.
09:21So, you're starting to get some clarity about the rotation, quote-unquote.
09:27But there's still a lot of work to do to figure out who you're going to even have here.
09:31Super chat on YouTube from Alan Day.
09:34What do you think about this one, Dibs?
09:35J.K. shouldn't be in a hurry to sign.
09:38I'm rooting for J.K. to get his $30 million-plus.
09:42Importantly, get to a roster that will give him a chance to play.
09:47Yeah, I buy all of it except for the $30 million-a-year part.
09:50I don't think that he's going to get $30 million-a-year.
09:52And if you're Jonathan Kaminga, yeah, you have the ability and you have the right to be patient.
09:58And, you know, free agency's been going on now for 28 minutes.
10:02And, you know, you've got teams who can talk to him about what they want to offer him.
10:06And then the Warriors would have two days to match when that offer comes in.
10:11So, I don't think that this is going to happen quickly unless it is a sign-and-trade
10:16and the Warriors are able to get a team to take him on and take on his contract
10:22and then figure out what to do from there.
10:24Yeah, I don't know.
10:25I certainly agree with you with the $30 million part.
10:29But the idea of Jonathan being patient, yeah, he's probably in less of a rush than the Warriors are.
10:36So, if you want to play the leverage game, and I do think that that's what's going on right now,
10:42if you want to play that game, then Jonathan is the one who can play it a little bit better than the Warriors.
10:50Which is why, when we hear the reports of, oh, this is going to take a little while,
10:55I still do, like, eyebrow up a little bit.
10:58But, is it going to take a little while?
11:01Because the Warriors don't want to do that.
11:03And the Warriors, let's be real, they have no idea what they're even able to do
11:06this free agency period until this gets figured out.
11:10Now, the good news for the Warriors is kind of along the lines of what you were just saying,
11:15and Cal Commie just tweeted about this.
11:17He goes, like, nine years ago, or even just a few years ago,
11:22free agency would have been about 78% done by now.
11:26Do you all remember what this used to be like when free agency hit?
11:30And it used to not be at 3 in the afternoon.
11:32It used to be at midnight in the East.
11:35And so, we would wait here in the West until 9 o'clock at night.
11:38And by 9.04, there were 18 free agents who had signed.
11:44Somehow, of course, none of them spoke to the other team until 9 o'clock.
11:48And by 9.04, all the deals were done.
11:51But that was the way it worked.
11:52And now it is a much more deliberate process.
11:56And so, maybe that actually is an advantage to the Warriors because they do want to get
12:00this done quickly so that free agency doesn't pass them by, but free agency is not going
12:04nearly as quickly as it used to.
12:06And it can't because of, you know, the very nature of the new CBA and the new rules about
12:11being an overspending team.
12:13And I'm just looking at the Twitter feed of a friend of the program, Eric Pincus.
12:18And for those people out there who don't know, Eric Pincus, he is just a big-time math guy.
12:25A capologist.
12:26A capologist guy.
12:27And I won't read you all his tweets because I don't even understand all the terms that he's
12:31throwing out there.
12:32But it's basically about aprons and the cap adjustment and the numbers and all the rest
12:38of it.
12:38And so, with the new rules in the NBA, it's a lot harder now to just go out there and spend,
12:43spend, spend, unless you're a team like Memphis that has one player who makes a lot and now
12:48you sign the guy you love and you give him a lot.
12:50Dibs?
12:51No.
12:52Jumps, bums.
12:52I told you about that space that the Houston Rockets have, and the Houston Rockets have
13:03made yet another move.
13:05This time, bringing from the Lakers, newly crowned free agent, Dorian Finney-Smith, agreeing
13:12to a four-year, $53 million deal.
13:17So, a four-year free agent contract, Dorian Finney-Smith, 3 and D wing player, the Houston
13:24Rockets, again, get themselves a little bit older, a little bit more playoff experience
13:29to mix in with their young guys.
13:31Thirteen and a quarter per year average annual value, and if you're the Warriors, this is
13:36one where you have FOMO because you would love, love, love to have this player, this
13:42type of player, a real 3 and D guy, heavy on the D, and good on the 3 as well, but if
13:49you have Dorian Finney-Smith, then if he's your, I don't know, your 6th best player, you're
13:55a good team.
13:55You're a deep team, and what you said earlier about Houston, Houston, we have a problem.
14:01Houston, you are a problem.
14:03Yep.
14:03No question about it.
14:04I wonder how far we are from naming them the favorite in the West, even over the Thunder.
14:09We're still a ways away from that.
14:10Only because we haven't seen them.
14:12If you put roster next to roster, I'm not sure that Houston's not better than Oklahoma
14:18City.
14:19Now that you're putting this kind of experience and shooting ability to mix in, that's what
14:23they couldn't do.
14:24They couldn't shoot.
14:26And now they've got Kevin Durant and Dorian Finney-Smith.
14:30Well, what they're trying to do is they're trying to do what Oklahoma City has done, which
14:34is, here's our top 9, deal with us.
14:37Exactly.
14:37And Houston's going to be in that spot, and that's where the Warriors, I think, they're
14:42going to miss out because they can't possibly do that with their top-heavy roster.
14:47They're not in on those conversations.
14:48They already made their big deal.
14:50They made their big deal.
14:51They got Jimmy Butler.
14:52Another deal, this one on a smaller scale.
14:55Center forward Paul Reed signs a two-year, $11 million deal to return to the Detroit Pistons.
15:04Another interesting young team, especially with what's gone on in the East.
15:09You could sell me on the idea that the Detroit Pistons are hosting a first-round playoff series
15:15next year, for sure.
15:16For sure, I would buy that.
15:18Yeah, top-four seed.
15:19I mean, on the surface, I would say you're crazy, but then you look around the conference
15:24and you go, well, they don't have their star.
15:26They don't have their star.
15:27They don't have their star.
15:29And they were the six seed just this last year.
15:31Honestly, if you look at other teams that might have a say in that, Atlanta and Orlando,
15:37both teams that have gotten better and they've added pieces, and the East is so wide open
15:42that, you know, you could almost convince me of 12 teams that might be able to host.
15:46No doubt.
15:47Dave in the City is next up on Willard and Dibbs.
15:49Hi, Dave.
15:50What's going on?
15:51Hey, fellas.
15:53Hell of a show.
15:54So I'm hoping that the Warriors could somehow do something to go get DeAndre Ayton.
16:00I mean, it would be a dream to go get him.
16:03I think he just needed some guidance, a little bit of polishing.
16:06But if he could convince him to take a little bit of a shorter, a longer deal where he gets
16:12his money in the back end of the deal, I think we could work it with a cap.
16:15And then you go and trade Kaminga for Curry's heir apparent and go get Colby White from the
16:20Bulls.
16:21Well, here's what I would say about...
16:24That's fun.
16:25That's fun.
16:26No such thing.
16:27But I get it.
16:28I get it, Dave.
16:29The Ayton thing I know is on people's minds.
16:33I sort of approach that opinion with a question first.
16:38I get it.
16:40He's a productive big.
16:42And yes, the Warriors need a big.
16:44My sense is, I haven't heard this from the Warriors, but my guess is, first of all, he's
16:50probably going to command a little bit more money than they're comfortable with, number
16:54one.
16:54But maybe even more important, I just don't think he's their type of player.
16:59I don't think he fits.
17:00I think what they're looking for in a big is someone that can allow Draymond Green to play
17:06power forward.
17:07But also then not have everything offensively fall apart where the defense doesn't need to
17:14worry about the three-point line because you've got too many non-shooters on the court at
17:18once.
17:19So I think that they would like to look at some seven-footers, get some more size out
17:24there.
17:24I know Al Horford is not the biggest body.
17:26I know he's not the greatest rebounder.
17:28And I know he's old.
17:30But along the lines of that guy, and even the Quentin Post style of, can somebody defend
17:36the five position and also shoot the three?
17:40That's my guess in terms of what the Warriors would rather do.
17:43And that's not DeAndre Ayton.
17:44No, it's not at all.
17:45And he, I was looking at the list earlier, somebody shared this, that he's one of 18
17:50players ever to average a double-double in each of his first seven seasons.
17:55So he's that dude.
17:57He's a throwback in an era where, yeah, most bigs have to shoot or get to shoot or are good
18:03at shooting.
18:04He's not that guy, but he's been double-digit points and rebounds every single year of his
18:09career.
18:09But you talk about fit, and this team loves to play, you know, player movement and a
18:15lot of pass and cut and pass and move offense.
18:18And DeAndre Ayton just doesn't fit that.
18:20Offensively, he is a guy who can play the dunker spot, and he'll go up there and get
18:24a rebound and score that way.
18:26But he doesn't have a very developed offensive package that would fit with this team.
18:30Well, I also, when guys are putting up, and you're right, he's averaged a double-double
18:34every year of his career.
18:36When guys do that and teams keep shipping them out for a song, I don't know about you, but
18:42I get the message.
18:44Like, to me, that's like, what the hell's going on there?
18:47Like, you just, you flat out don't want him on your team.
18:51Sons are like, yeah, we're good.
18:52We're going to go in a different direction.
18:54And now the Blazers are negotiating a buyout.
18:56We're negotiating a buyout with a guy who's 26 years old and averaged 14 and 10 last year.
19:04Why don't teams want him on their team?
19:07Like, I don't think this is a perfect comp, but it's the same point that I was trying to
19:12make last week about Jordan Poole.
19:14It's like, okay, I get it.
19:16I see the stats, too.
19:18I can go to ESPN and CBS and Fox, NBA.com.
19:22I can see all the numbers.
19:24I get it.
19:24I also know there have now been multiple teams that are just like, yeah, we don't want you.
19:30We'd rather have you gone.
19:31We don't even really care what we get in return.
19:33We would just rather have you gone.
19:35That says something to me.
19:37It does.
19:37And he only played 40 games last year for Portland, so I know he had injuries.
19:42In Phoenix, I'm not going to hold that against Aiton because, well, it's Phoenix.
19:46And, you know, Phoenix, from a management standpoint, roster-wise, they haven't really made a lot
19:52of great decisions.
19:53And so, yeah, but the fact that he goes to a second team and then that team is like, yeah,
19:58we'd rather buy you out than pay you one more year of 30-plus million.
20:02We'd rather have you off our books and off you go and find a new team.
20:06But all that said, I don't think that he's going to get a contract that the Warriors can afford.
20:11Maybe it's not $20 million a year.
20:14If it's $15 million a year, even that is too rich for the Warriors' blood.
20:19At least it is in this moment until they know what they're doing with Jonathan.
20:22One more, and this one's just a wee little baby of a deal, but one more deal for the Memphis
20:28Grizzlies who have come to an agreement with guard Cam Spencer.
20:32Two years, $4.5 million.
20:35Okay.
20:36Nice.
20:37Good money if you can get it.
20:38Yeah.
20:38I mean, good job.
20:39It sounds like a wee little deal, like you said, but that's still $2.25 million a year
20:44for playing basketball.
20:45I'd take it.
20:46Yes, you would.
20:47Memphis wanted to give me $2.4.5 million.
20:49I'd take it.
20:50I mean, you insinuated on Friday that you were making that kind of money.
20:53Well, yeah.
20:54I mean, we had a lot going on.
20:55It's an insinuation sensation.
20:56It was, and I was struck by laughter at your cockamamie quarterback list that you trotted out.
21:04And yes, it was yours.
21:05It was a good list.
21:05It was pretty funny.
21:06It was not mine.
21:07I didn't make the list.
21:08But you brought it.
21:09I shared it.
21:10You shared it.
21:10It was like show and tell.
21:11You didn't have to.
21:12No, it was like show and tell.
21:14Right.
21:14Remember show and tell?
21:15Yes, but when you show and tell something, it's something that you have.
21:18Like, it may not be your Mr. Potato Head that you created, but you brought the Mr. Potato Head.
21:23I mean, I, you know, in this case, printed it out.
21:26I didn't print it out, but like.
21:28You wrote it on a scrap of, like, banking paper.
21:30Right.
21:31On a deposit slip.
21:32And then I shared it.
21:33You did.
21:33Yeah.
21:34Sharing is caring.
21:35It's great.
21:36I like people.
21:36I got a big laugh out of it.
21:37Yeah, that's what we're going for.
21:39Yep.
21:40So, I don't think that DeAndre Ayton is going to sign for, I don't know, $5 million a year,
21:47which is probably what the Warriors would love.
21:49I think he's going to get more than they can afford.
21:51I don't think, I don't, I don't, I don't think that that's the way they want to play basketball.
21:55Right.
21:56I don't think they want to bring in a 26-year-old who seemingly, I don't know the guy, but it
22:00feels like he's got an attitude about the way he's doing things.
22:05He does not shoot the ball from the outside.
22:07Nope, at all.
22:08And so, you're going to bring him in in order to do what?
22:13You're going to kind of like, sort of run things offensively in and out through him?
22:17When you have Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry on the floor, it does not feel like a fit to me.
22:23I get why it woos people.
22:26He feels like a Laker to me.
22:29He feels like a Laker, not a Warrior.
22:31Yeah, perhaps.
22:32I mean, the Lakers don't really need him to do anything other than rebound and defend a little bit.
22:38I mean, they're dying for something, like, they need somebody big even more than the Warriors do.
22:43So, I could see that one happening.
22:46The Warriors need somebody big who can actually step out and shoot.
22:50Right.
22:50And I'm not in love with the idea of Al Horford because you look at his numbers over the last couple years
22:56and they have definitely declined.
22:58And he's an older player and, well, they're an older team.
23:02So, I just don't know.
23:04I don't know if you're going to get the best of Al Horford at this point.
23:08But you would have four of the league's, I think, 30 oldest players in the association.
23:15Yeah, if he were to start at the five, thank goodness Pods would probably be in the starting lineup
23:21because if not, everybody would be over 35 years old.
23:24Right.
23:25That's not good.
23:26Nope.
23:26Nope.
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