GB News host Nana Akua has brutally shut down commentator Fahima Mohamed's defence of Sir Keir Starmer after failing to name "one good thing" the Labour Government has done.In a bitter dispute on the People's Channel, Nana pressed Mohamed on whether she could name "one good policy" the Prime Minister has come up with, to which she admitted she "couldn't".FULL STORY HERE.
00:00Well, you're joining me now, political commentator and broadcaster, Fahima Mohammed, and she's in the studio.
00:05Fahima, it's good to see you.
00:07Good to see you.
00:08Right, Fahima, your thoughts. Come on. He's backtracked three. He's done a hat-trick of U-turns.
00:12And the fourth was one, which wasn't a policy-related one.
00:15But now, even the speech that he made, he didn't really mean it. He didn't write it.
00:19It doesn't sound like he read it beforehand.
00:21I think everyone U-turns, when it comes to politics, it's nothing that is unimaginable, to be honest.
00:28Within a year, though?
00:28It doesn't matter. Look at reform. Nigel Farage himself, U-turn on smoking ban.
00:33Even being, you know, standing for MP, we've got, you know, Rishi Sunak, U-turn on green policies and tax cuts.
00:40We've got Boris Johnson with lockdowns and with pressure from Marcus Rashfield as well when it comes to meals.
00:46And Liz Truss, famous U-turn on almost the entire economic policy in 2022.
00:52Now, when it comes to this particular U-turn of the Island of Strangers,
00:56I think it's listening to the public and actually not associating with xenophobic, you know, narratives.
01:03And I think it's right and it is leadership to actually correct their mistakes and continue to listen and actually, you know, correct themselves.
01:11I don't see it being a problem.
01:12Like him or loathe him.
01:14That is what leadership does.
01:16But he hasn't got anything right, though.
01:17I mean, look, Winterfuel Allowance, I could have told him that don't take money from pensioners.
01:21That's quite obvious to me.
01:21But like you said, it's only a year.
01:22No, exactly, which is very worrying.
01:24So literally every, you know, like if it's only been just under a year and he's three main policy areas, two of which he didn't mention in the manifesto.
01:32So Winterfuel Allowance didn't mention it.
01:34Turns out we didn't like it because had he mentioned it, he may not have got in with such a massive majority.
01:39What was the other one?
01:39There's been so many.
01:41The Grooming Gangs National Enquiry, obvious to me, probably obvious to you.
01:44That is a good thing.
01:46Let me just say, but it's obvious.
01:47These are obvious things.
01:48It's obvious to me that you need a national inquiry.
01:50Why he even went forward and why they even pushed that through makes no sense to me.
01:53So these things, he's not even you turning on things that, you know, there's a real sort of, he's you turning on things that the general public are completely against from the beginning.
02:03I understand that.
02:04But certain things come up and change happens.
02:07And public opinion also is something that we need to understand that when they are voting for certain parties, their policies are there just to sell.
02:15It's literally a lost leader like in a business.
02:17But when it comes to it, you're actually selling goods that is totally different.
02:20You go to any sales and you go in there, it's all last year's goods.
02:22Yeah, but if I went to a shop and bought something and they told me it would do this, that and the other and it didn't, I would take it back.
02:27I said, I would say you lied to me.
02:29Fair enough.
02:29You said it would do this and the other.
02:30That's politics for you.
02:30Yeah, but we'll, well, if it's politics, it should, in this short period of time.
02:35And it's not just him.
02:35With these people.
02:37Yeah, but look, it's not even been a year.
02:39And every single U-turn was obvious.
02:40So we need to give it more time.
02:42No, no more time.
02:43We need to give it more time.
02:43No, absolutely no more.
02:44In order for it to actually, to take on a government that has been, you know, really, really done damage for the last 14 years.
02:51And just to turn it around in the next, you know, a year or so, it's also not fair.
02:55All right, give me one really good policy that they've made, the Labour government, since they've been in.
03:00I'm, like I said before, I'm no fan of any party right now.
03:03Well, no, but just give me one good point.
03:04Okay, no, no, no.
03:05Or independent.
03:05No.
03:05What do you think that they've gone back on the fact that they are actually doing a national grinding of the grooming gangs?
03:11One good policy that they came up with that they haven't U-turned on.
03:15I can't think of anything at the point in my head right now.
03:18Exactly.
03:18And that's not good.
03:19Because literally everything they've come up with, they've gone backwards on.
03:22But like I said, you can say that with everyone.
03:24No, you can't.
03:25Yes, you can, you can.
03:27Absolutely.
03:28No.
03:28Every single one has always been a negative, a right or a left, for every single party.
03:33It's always been where they promote certain things at the beginning.
03:36And in the end, it does not relay in everyday lives.
03:39And most people that I see that are politicians, they do not actually speak for everyday people.
03:44No, that's true.
03:45Not even Nigel Farage, to be honest.
03:46He might be likeable as a character, but at the end of the day, even his policies don't relate to the working class.
03:51And that's also another issue that we need to raise, which we're not talking about.
03:54So welfare reforms, taking money off people who are disabled, claiming PIP, I mean, that's, you know, I agree that there are some people, especially young people, in the mental health explosion of people all claiming sick because they've got mental health issues, which is difficult to challenge, really.
04:10I do agree that there needs to be some scrutiny with a lot of that.
04:14But people who actually need the care, this policy would have trapped people who really genuinely need the care.
04:21And it was terrible.
04:22I could have told him that.
04:23I think the majority of the time, when we are generalising these policies and what it is, when you actually look at the real paperwork of it, it doesn't really mean that.
04:30It actually means that they are toughening up on the actual way in which people are going to be processed.
04:35They're going to actually open up that sort of gateway where, at the end of the day, people that really deserve it are going to get it, and the ones that are taking advantage may not.
04:42So, then again, we also realise that, okay, oh, they've taken it away, when actually it's not.
04:47It's actually, you know, minimising it so people that really deserve it have it.
04:51So easy to generalise, distort and, you know, delete information.
04:55Nobody disagrees to that.
04:56However, that's not how this would have operated.
04:59So, nobody disagrees that those who are most in need should get the money.
05:01But the way this was set up was that those mostly in need would have missed out on it.
05:06And that's the problem with a lot of the policies that they're bringing out.
05:09Like, for example, with the winter fuel, £11,000.
05:12That's not enough to live on.
05:13In what world, in what world could you exist where you think that, say, a pensioner who cannot work, because usually they're too old or they may be ill,
05:20to say that, oh, if you earn £11,000, we're going to take away your heat allowance.
05:23Well, aren't you going to end up filling the NHS with people who are more ill because they're cold or because this country isn't actually that warm?
05:30I get that.
05:31It doesn't make any sense.
05:32It doesn't make sense.
05:33Absolutely.
05:33If they came out with things that made sense, that would be fine.
05:36But the winter fuel also happened and came in because of COVID.
05:40And now that's disappeared.
05:41That's why it's actually trying to come back on it.
05:44And now they've realised it's not just COVID that people need those kind of, you know, additional investments.
05:49They actually need it throughout.
05:50So maybe they're putting policies in and then getting the reaction of people.
05:54And that U-turn is actually there to support what people are saying.
05:58That's how it works.
05:59They've had 14 years to prepare for government.
06:02Not really.
06:03Yes, they have.
06:04Nobody has real enough time to prepare for what you're able to get there.
06:08They've had 14 years to prepare to be in government.
06:11Whilst the Conservatives made mistake after mistake, I certainly don't support their behaviour,
06:15the Labour Party have come in on a so-called change manifesto with hidden things that we were never told of,
06:22which would mean that their majority would not have been as big as it is.
06:24And now literally everything, every major policy they're announcing, they're U-turning.
06:29And we're not done because I suspect they'll have to deal with Chagos, which again, a surrender, which was madness.
06:34Why are we paying so much money to surrender something and then rent it back?
06:38That doesn't make any sense for the British taxpayer.
06:40I get what you're saying, but honestly, I think that this shows that this is more of a connection
06:46between people and the actual leadership.
06:49If they're listening, if they're turning back, if they're doing certain things to actually promote
06:53what the real big voices are, then that shows a little bit more consistency and cohesiveness
06:58between people on the ground and people that are sitting in Parliament.
07:01I don't think it does.
07:02When they're completely, you know, ignoring it all.
07:04I don't think it does.
07:05I think it's people who are scared of losing their jobs in a couple of years' time when Labour fall out of office.
07:10Because now there's a lot of Conservative MPs, ex-MPs looking for work.
07:13And I tell you right now, there's a lot of MPs now thinking, ooh, hang on a minute.
07:17Maybe you and I should apply.
07:18But regardless...
07:19Well, yeah, we should do better.
07:20None of the pay enough for what we can deliver.
07:22Definitely, definitely.
07:23But regardless, I do feel that regardless of preparation, just like how you think you're going to be a mum
07:28until you actually give birth, then it's a totally different story.
07:30When you actually enter the 10 Downing Street, it is totally different.
07:33Policies are different.
07:34Things that you're going to be aware of is completely different to what you're looking at from the outside.
07:38All right, well, I'll take that analogy.
07:40And if I'd been looking after children for 14 years...
07:42It's still not the same.
07:43Hang on.
07:44No, I listened to your analogy.
07:45If I'd been looking after children for 14 years, I'd have a pretty good idea as to what it would be like to have a child.
07:50I'd have a better idea than everybody else.
07:52So this is what I think.
07:53I was around kids for so long.
07:55Until I became a mum, I realised so much difference.
07:57I'm adding to your analogy that you have some learning experience.
08:01These guys are saying that they've learned absolutely nothing from the previous government.
08:04And they're coming out with a load of claptrap and they're having to turn it around.
08:08And it's not even been a year.
08:09It's an utter disgrace.
08:10I think it's changing politics where, especially with social media and people are speaking out so much more than even in the last five years, where they cannot ignore the noise.
08:18It's a difference.
08:19We have change in our environment.
08:21They could do what they want, get away with it.
08:23There's no difference.
08:24It's just that we're seeing it differently.
08:25Just like when we say, oh, before was different, you know, because of, you know, now it's social media.
08:29People are actually responding to tweets, when before that never even made a difference.
08:34There is a difference now.
08:36Even the fact that they are speaking, they're saying certain things, it's actually giving the voices to the norm.
08:41I'll tell you what I'd like to see is a leader who goes through with what he says he's going to do.
08:46He pushes it forward and listens to the public before he comes out with something.
08:49A leader who doesn't hide what he's planning to do.
08:53So winter fuel, which obviously they knew about and then they hid it clearly.
08:57And I want to see a leader who has the courage of his convictions.
09:01And I'm not seeing it in Sikistama.
09:03He didn't even, he hadn't obviously even read his own speech.
09:06Listen, I've got to move on.
09:07Vahima, we could talk for a long time.
09:09Oh, we can.
09:09And we will do.
09:09OK, I'll give you a final 10 seconds and I've got to go.
09:11Well, when it comes to winter fuel, remember there are wars happening and that changes.
09:14And we cannot stick to what we did at the beginning.
09:16We have to change over time.
09:17Economics, everything changes, migration, because of certain things that happen over, you know, when it comes to foreigners.
09:22So at the end of the day, we cannot just say that.
