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💍 Married at First Sight Australia Season 12 Episode 28 brings intense confrontations, shocking revelations, and relationship-defining moments! The couples face tough decisions as emotions run high and secrets come to light. Who will stay committed and who will walk away? Don’t miss the drama-packed #MAFSAU episode everyone’s talking about!
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00:00:00Previously...
00:00:02When I told Karina about Cleo, she said,
00:00:05oh, I didn't know you would go for that kind of caliber.
00:00:08What makes you better than my twin sister?
00:00:10Feedback week exposed some uncomfortable truths.
00:00:14She is a bit of a snob and very judgy.
00:00:17When Paul read back his honesty letter to Karina...
00:00:20Did you read that part to Afina?
00:00:22Yep.
00:00:23Wow. Can't believe this is what he thinks of me.
00:00:27Watching you two together, I don't think it'll fizzle out.
00:00:31Fresh insight reaffirmed the positive state of Ri and Jeff's marriage.
00:00:36I'm really proud of where we are and how we are feeling about each other.
00:00:40She sort of views our relationship the same as me.
00:00:42We can both see her life outside of this experiment together.
00:00:45I'm gonna give you some hard truths.
00:00:47If I was physically and emotionally attracted to a girl,
00:00:50I would want to be all over him.
00:00:52It's just not like that with you.
00:00:54But Jamie was left in shock.
00:00:56Are we having a lack of sex because you're not in the love stage?
00:01:00I feel like...
00:01:01Yes or no?
00:01:02Yes.
00:01:03When Dave gave little reassurance about his true feelings...
00:01:08You said you loved me six weeks into this.
00:01:10I'm not there.
00:01:12Tonight...
00:01:14It's a sombre mood at the dinner party.
00:01:24This is killing me.
00:01:26I felt really sad when I seen Jamie was by herself.
00:01:30They've been so solid.
00:01:32This is just shocking to be quite honest.
00:01:34Dinner is served.
00:01:36Before...
00:01:37You threw me under the bus with Afina.
00:01:39Are you gonna take accountability for that, Paul?
00:01:42Karina calls out Paul.
00:01:44See, but that's not on me.
00:01:45That's on you.
00:01:46It's made me feel like I cannot trust you right now.
00:01:49Then...
00:01:50Gosh, Dave's so different.
00:01:54I've never heard this side of Dave before.
00:01:58He's got a wall up.
00:01:59He's detached.
00:02:01Who is that man?
00:02:03That's not the Dave I've met.
00:02:05Dave under the microscope.
00:02:07There's plenty of future with you and you're telling me today you're like,
00:02:10I don't have...
00:02:11Those feelings haven't progressed for you.
00:02:12When did you want to tell me that?
00:02:14Jamie bears her soul as she fights for her marriage.
00:02:18It's just a struggle at the moment, so...
00:02:21It's why I didn't go with you.
00:02:23Really?
00:02:26He's hurt me so much.
00:02:28Who am I trusting with my heart?
00:02:30That's not okay.
00:02:44After a week of honest feedback about their relationships,
00:02:47tonight our couples will gather to reflect and unpack at the sixth dinner party.
00:02:54And for some couples, absence truly has made the heart grow fonder.
00:03:00Oh, you look amazing.
00:03:03Wow.
00:03:04This dress is, yeah, full on.
00:03:06You look nice.
00:03:08I wonder if you spilled food on yourself today.
00:03:10I hope not.
00:03:11I hope not.
00:03:12After the feedback week, Jeff and I were in actually such a good place.
00:03:16I feel like I'm just so grateful to be home and in his presence and just be close to him again.
00:03:22So, yeah, I'm happy.
00:03:24And I think feedback week has brought up a lot of dirt.
00:03:28It has.
00:03:29That's been on people's minds.
00:03:30Yeah, for sure.
00:03:31Seeing Jackie and Ryan tonight is going to be very interesting.
00:03:36Jackie's letter, there was two and a half pages of negative things about Ryan.
00:03:41And there was a lot of stuff in there which would have been quite confronting.
00:03:47Yeah, I'd imagine from what I saw and heard in that letter, they must be in all sorts at the moment.
00:04:01Is that with the pole?
00:04:02It is with pole.
00:04:04Can you make sure you flip it upside down before you pull?
00:04:07You already flipped it though.
00:04:08Okay, good.
00:04:09I've got to admit, Jackie's letter has sort of echoed around in my mind for a little bit.
00:04:14And I am pissed off.
00:04:16Just for you, I'll flip it and this can be your glass.
00:04:18Yay!
00:04:20I love the pulp.
00:04:21All the pulp you want.
00:04:22Yeah.
00:04:24There's certain character assumptions she's made and really harsh things that she's said.
00:04:29I am concerned that you don't have a stable and predictable career set up.
00:04:33You financially contribute less than I will.
00:04:36And I will be the primary breadwinner, putting you in a place where you don't want to be.
00:04:40I'm concerned you need a submissive partner and will only work in a relationship with a trad wife,
00:04:46which is term for traditional wife who submits on everything.
00:04:50You brought that term into it.
00:04:51Oh my god.
00:04:53Here is your pulp, madame.
00:04:54Thank you, sir.
00:04:56I know myself intimately.
00:04:58And what she said during that letter, like, yeah, it's a little bit disturbing that she would use that language, definitely.
00:05:03I'm really glad that we were forced to go through that feedback.
00:05:08It was really helpful for me to put stuff on the table and then have some of it addressed.
00:05:11And I feel like we tend to fight for a day and then we kind of just get over it and move on.
00:05:16Whereas, so we're so used to kind of resolving our own conflict that it doesn't really affect us anymore.
00:05:21Ryan and I are so happy.
00:05:24Like genuinely, we just get along so well.
00:05:29Jack, I just want you to know that I'm going to take a while to try and digest some of the terminology that you use and the way you feel.
00:05:37I actually feel feedback week has improved our relationship.
00:05:40We've worked through issues and I feel like a lot of couples don't discuss the tough issues,
00:05:45like planning how we're going to have kids together, where we're going to live, where we're going to retire.
00:05:49A lot of the other couples don't think that far ahead.
00:05:52I also realised when I got back out, I actually loved this apartment with you.
00:05:55And it is our home.
00:06:01Down the hall, one of this year's most tumultuous couples are getting ready for tonight's dinner party in separate apartments.
00:06:11The last interaction with Veronica wasn't great.
00:06:14In fact, she stormed out and I've been in the bachelor pad ever since.
00:06:19Again.
00:06:20Elliot started feedback week optimistic that he could improve his relationship with Veronica by seeking some constructive advice from Ree.
00:06:30Based on the conversations that you've had with Veronica, what is your impression of what she thinks about me?
00:06:37Like you haven't made eye contact with her and you're a bit more closed off.
00:06:42That's really constructive.
00:06:45But Elliot was disappointed when Veronica's honesty letter negatively compared him to Dave.
00:06:51I don't have to prompt Dave to open up.
00:06:53When Dave and I have conversed, it's effortless and the communication flows easily.
00:06:57Dave makes me feel connected and seen.
00:07:00But unfortunately, I don't feel the same way with you.
00:07:02I don't know what to say.
00:07:04Veronica wrote a lot about Dave in her letter,
00:07:07which is interesting when you're writing a letter about our relationship.
00:07:10It sucks that you feel that way.
00:07:12I tried to connect with your letter and I tried to...
00:07:14Do you think that that's appropriate that you're patronising me, Elliot?
00:07:17When you do that...
00:07:18Do you think that that's appropriate that you're patronising me, Elliot?
00:07:21Turns out we still can't be in the same room together.
00:07:23You have no respect and I'm not interested in pursuing anything with you.
00:07:27You're beneath me.
00:07:28And the Oscar goes to...
00:07:31Veronica!
00:07:35I'm a little bit disappointed.
00:07:37I feel like I did my best to make this work.
00:07:41But Veronica's behaviour, anyone would say, is unacceptable.
00:07:47She has this hatred towards me.
00:07:50And so, going into this dinner party...
00:07:53Like, I feel like I'm going in with my eyes open.
00:07:55I know exactly how Veronica feels about me.
00:07:58Like, I don't really have anything left to say to her.
00:08:02For Afina, tonight's dinner party is a chance to get something off her mind.
00:08:15Tonight, the things that I want to voice, I'll voice.
00:08:19Karina's comments towards my twin sister wasn't okay.
00:08:23So, yeah, I'm going to address that.
00:08:25Do you want to go first?
00:08:27During Feedback Week, Afina learnt that Karina had made some disparaging remarks about her twin sister, who Paul had previously dated.
00:08:38She said, oh, I didn't know you would go for that kind of caliber.
00:08:42Yeah.
00:08:43Wow.
00:08:44I feel like she is a bit of a snob sometimes and can come across as very judgy.
00:08:49And I'll be honest with you, this is giving me the ick.
00:08:52I think tonight's going to go.
00:08:57Uh, it'll be interesting.
00:09:00When Paul had referenced to Karina saying that my twin sister was in a different caliber,
00:09:05obviously that was a direct attack to my twin sister.
00:09:08And therefore, me as well.
00:09:10Does it make me annoyed, frustrated?
00:09:12Yes.
00:09:15What makes you think you're in a different caliber to my twin sister?
00:09:19It was a very snobby comment.
00:09:21It was me and my brother, I'd be human.
00:09:23In my world, that doesn't stand.
00:09:25Who are you to judge someone else when you don't know them?
00:09:28I don't know Karina enough to call her a snob.
00:09:31But if Paul's calling her a snob, then that says something in my eyes.
00:09:35I feel a bit hurt and blindsided by Paul's actions this week.
00:09:52I feel like I was thrown under the bus.
00:09:55Sometimes you can come across as being a bit judgy.
00:09:59I told you about Cleo and then you said to me that you, you said to me that you were surprised that I would go for that kind of caliber.
00:10:07Did you read that part to Athena?
00:10:12Yeah.
00:10:13A bit of a slap in the face.
00:10:16A bit of shock.
00:10:17Yeah.
00:10:18Obviously, I'm not proud of the comment that I made about Athena's sister.
00:10:25I got a little insecure with the partner swap because Paul had a fling with Athena's sister.
00:10:36And I acted out in a little bit of jealousy.
00:10:41And it was said to Paul in private, thinking that he was my safe place.
00:10:48Yeah, I feel a bit betrayed, but I'm not confrontational.
00:10:55So I just need time to digest everything.
00:10:59Yeah.
00:11:00Do you all look good?
00:11:07We match each other.
00:11:09What do you expect from Athena towards me?
00:11:14I don't know.
00:11:15I feel like it's not, it's in a party if there's no drama, you know, so.
00:11:20I shouldn't have said the words that I said and then obviously now she knows.
00:11:23So yeah, I think it's best if we maybe pull her to a side.
00:11:26Yeah, pull her to a side, yeah.
00:11:27And I'm going to take accountability.
00:11:29And apologize.
00:11:32I guess now it's, it's out there.
00:11:35I kind of regret putting that out there.
00:11:37But now it is done.
00:11:38So that's it.
00:11:39Yeah.
00:11:41Karina said that she is, you know, she's taking accountability for it.
00:11:46So I'm like, okay, cool.
00:11:47Happy days.
00:11:48That is literally, that's all I wanted to hear.
00:11:50That's, you know, so that's it.
00:11:52Shall we?
00:11:54See that she regrets, you know, the comment that she made.
00:11:57That's it.
00:11:58I think so, yeah.
00:11:59It's all good.
00:12:00I'll be right behind you.
00:12:06Should we hit the road?
00:12:07Yeah, let's do it.
00:12:08Let's go.
00:12:09Most of our couples make their way to tonight's dinner party.
00:12:12Like a bongo.
00:12:13Let's go do this.
00:12:14Okay.
00:12:16I'll wait.
00:12:17Oh.
00:12:18Okay.
00:12:20There's one couple who have yet to depart.
00:12:30I think feedback week was so necessary because it really allowed me to sit and think.
00:12:44And start to put the puzzle piece together.
00:12:47After spending feedback week with Adrian and receiving some hard hitting truths about her relationship with Dave.
00:12:56He doesn't want you getting too close to him, so he keeps his distance.
00:12:59And the hardest one, he's not attracted.
00:13:02Jamie was left questioning Dave's level of attraction and overall feelings for her.
00:13:08When it comes to building a physical and intimate relationship, the areas that you need to have that are where it's lacking.
00:13:15Because I'm so much more deeper, I feel like sex and all those things are connected to all those feelings as well.
00:13:21So then you're saying we don't have that much sex because you're not right in your feels.
00:13:27Yeah, I'm not there yet.
00:13:28You're in a different spot to who I am.
00:13:30So you said you loved me six weeks into this.
00:13:33I'm not there.
00:13:37Sorry.
00:13:38Since my last conversation with Dave, he hasn't tried to resolve what we were talking about.
00:13:47He hasn't tried to reassure me.
00:13:50Considering we've had so many weeks of being in, I guess, a good place of what I thought anyways.
00:14:00I couldn't feel further apart from him.
00:14:02I don't know what he's thinking. I don't know what he's feeling.
00:14:05I don't know where his head's at.
00:14:08How do you feel about the state of your relationship right now?
00:14:18Um, look, I don't know.
00:14:20It's pretty shit.
00:14:34Hey.
00:14:38Hey.
00:14:39How you going?
00:14:41Well, obviously, I've been better.
00:14:43Mm.
00:14:46Haven't really spoken.
00:14:48Thought you maybe would check in a little bit.
00:14:51I thought the same.
00:14:52The last conversation we had, you kind of said that your feelings aren't in the same place and I questioned your attraction to me.
00:15:04So, obviously, imagine how I'm feeling.
00:15:07Mm-hmm.
00:15:08So, you don't think maybe that would have been a good opportunity to maybe validate me.
00:15:12I don't know if you want to have this conversation here or a dinner party.
00:15:17Um...
00:15:22Don't you want to try and resolve it with me before we go to a dinner party?
00:15:25Well, I just don't...
00:15:26Yeah.
00:15:27I mean, if you want to have the conversation now, let's do it.
00:15:30I mean...
00:15:32What is with this reaction right now?
00:15:36Why...
00:15:37Like, where is your emotion in this?
00:15:39Can you...
00:15:41Did you not just hear what I said?
00:15:42I'm questioning your attraction and if you've got romantic feelings.
00:15:45Do you know what's seen how upsetting that is?
00:15:47Yeah.
00:15:48And you're just like, well, do you want to talk about dinner party?
00:15:50What?
00:15:51Dave, this is...
00:15:52This is...
00:15:53You and me right now.
00:15:56Mm.
00:15:57I need to know that you're here with me.
00:15:58I just don't see it.
00:16:00I've had time to think about it all.
00:16:02And when it was brought up, when you questioned my feelings, I guess, I was really upset by you questioning it.
00:16:07And I had to ask myself, why was I upset?
00:16:10And, you know, it's because they're not there.
00:16:13The feelings aren't there as much as I thought they would be.
00:16:15And the intimacy things, all those things, I have to go...
00:16:20I went away and thought about why I'm not showing up in certain ways and it's just not there.
00:16:25I'm not expressing the love that you have for me.
00:16:28Like, you know, I'm not mirroring that back.
00:16:30How do you feel about Jamie?
00:16:33Oh, look, I don't...
00:16:34I don't hate her guts.
00:16:35I don't hate Jamie.
00:16:36I think...
00:16:37But how do you feel about her?
00:16:38No, I mean, I don't hate her, but I do care.
00:16:41Like, I do care about her.
00:16:42Like, the whole way through, I do care about her feelings.
00:16:45I've looked after her and had her back and, you know, wanted her to see her happy.
00:16:49It doesn't take away from that.
00:16:50Like, it's just...
00:16:51I don't...
00:16:52I'm not progressing in any other feelings.
00:16:53So, it's, um...
00:16:54Yeah, it sucks.
00:16:55Do you understand your words are really hurtful?
00:16:58You could say it, like, a little bit nicer, Dave.
00:17:00You could have a little bit more tact than being like...
00:17:02Well, I...
00:17:03Because you know where my feelings are.
00:17:04Yeah.
00:17:05You know where my feelings are.
00:17:06I don't think I was rude.
00:17:07I don't think I was rude.
00:17:09I don't think I was rude.
00:17:11I don't think I was rude.
00:17:13I don't think I was rude.
00:17:14I don't think I was rude.
00:17:16I don't think I was rude.
00:17:18Dave, there's no sort of sincerity or, like, empathy in your voice.
00:17:23See, of course there is.
00:17:24I'm...
00:17:25These are brutal words and you're just like, eh.
00:17:27You're not even like, Jamie, like, I'm so sorry.
00:17:29Like, nothing.
00:17:31Well, this is how I feel.
00:17:34You feel one way, she feels another.
00:17:36Do you feel like she's understanding of how you're feeling?
00:17:41Um...
00:17:43I don't know, man.
00:17:44She just seemed worked up.
00:17:45I don't think there was time for...
00:17:47I'm not feeling as strong as you are.
00:17:50And I'm sorry that it's happening like this, but I can't...
00:17:53No, I'm sorry that I had feelings for...
00:17:55If you're going to treat me like this
00:17:57and this is how you're going to approach a situation like that,
00:17:59I'm sorry for myself that I have feelings for you like that.
00:18:02Because that is not the Dave I've been married to.
00:18:05After everything, that's how you're going to approach this conversation.
00:18:08And now you're just going to come in and just be like, big boy, like, yeah, whatever, not feeling it, sorry.
00:18:14I'm sorry if it's coming across that way.
00:18:15It is coming across that way.
00:18:16It is coming...
00:18:17I'm sorry if it is, but that's how I feel and I...
00:18:19Oh, my, I can't.
00:18:20I can't.
00:18:21I can't.
00:18:22I can't.
00:18:23I can't.
00:18:24I can't.
00:18:25I can't.
00:18:26I can't.
00:18:27I can't.
00:18:28I can't.
00:18:31How is that person?
00:18:44How is that person?
00:18:46He just didn't even care.
00:18:51I can't help him out of this apartment, I don't want to, I want to come in with him.
00:19:01He's not the person I know.
00:19:12Even if you don't have feelings for me, you know how I feel about you.
00:19:16And that's how he's going to approach it.
00:19:18What the f*** is wrong with him?
00:19:21That's disgusting, I don't want to spend any more time in this experiment with someone like that.
00:19:26He's worse than any of the others because he's lied to me the whole time and he's pretended to be someone he's clearly not.
00:19:32Well here we are, the sixth dinner party.
00:19:53And what is great this week is that they had feedback from various individuals in the group.
00:19:59Which is always very powerful because like in the real world, hearing a different perspective can really change things.
00:20:05And for some couples, it will bring them closer together.
00:20:08You should, you should agree.
00:20:10They'll hear things and they'll just take that on board and it will almost create a stronger bond.
00:20:17But for other couples, I think, particularly at this stage of the experiment, it really can create a lot of questions about their long-term compatibility.
00:20:28Absolutely, the couples that have some cracks in their relationships, they're going to be magnified.
00:20:37And it's the opportunity to take that magnification and either work on them and build on it and turn it over.
00:20:44Or maybe realize that they're not really meant for one another.
00:20:47So I guess it's time to see who our first couple up is.
00:21:09Excellent.
00:21:11Oh, it's Jamie on her own.
00:21:14I don't think we've ever seen this before.
00:21:19Well, I guess the last time will probably be cocktailing in this room.
00:21:22May as well enjoy it.
00:21:24This is the first time that Jamie and Dave have ever come in separately into a dinner party.
00:21:30Cheers.
00:21:33What has happened over this week for this couple?
00:21:35That is quite a turnaround.
00:21:37Especially after a declaration of love last week on the couch.
00:21:41Right.
00:21:42But he didn't say it back.
00:21:42He did not.
00:21:44Well, I may as well make myself comfortable.
00:21:46Sit anywhere I want.
00:21:49Something absolutely, absolutely blew up here.
00:22:00Please, the love of God, be a female on the other end of the door.
00:22:03Oh, this is the epitome of how I'm feeling by myself.
00:22:10Excellent.
00:22:11It was really awkward, but also, like, probably better than spending time with my husband.
00:22:15So I was like, why not?
00:22:17I mean, imaginary friends are probably the way to go.
00:22:19Less talk back.
00:22:20Less disappointment.
00:22:21Now I'm talking to myself like I'm losing my mind.
00:22:24Just talk to a pop-up, talk to my imaginary friends.
00:22:28How are you going, Jamie?
00:22:29I'm really good.
00:22:31Maybe I should do, like, a sexy pose or something.
00:22:33Like, a little...
00:22:35Welcome.
00:22:35I need anyone here right now.
00:22:37Like, I'm dying to see my friends.
00:22:41Maybe I came on the wrong night.
00:22:49No, no, what's happening?
00:22:51Thank God.
00:22:52I was like, please, for you.
00:22:54I'm by myself.
00:22:55Oh, I can't...
00:22:56Finn and Adrian, we have support in the room.
00:23:01You look stunning, and you're by yourself.
00:23:04Go get a drink, because it's a long one.
00:23:07I felt really sad when seeing Jamie was by herself.
00:23:10If you asked me a week ago who was the last person I think would enter a dinner party on
00:23:15their own, it would have been Jamie.
00:23:17So when I seen her by herself, it was shocking, it was confusing, and I'm sad.
00:23:21Adrian and I actually spoke about how our bed's big enough for you to come move in.
00:23:26It's a really, really scary day.
00:23:29When I have to look at my relationship and lean on you two, then it's a really scary day.
00:23:34Hey.
00:23:35Thank God all my people.
00:23:37It is Jeff and Rie.
00:23:38Hello, Rie.
00:23:39I'm separated.
00:23:41You wouldn't believe it.
00:23:44You look beautiful.
00:23:46I'm sorry to give you a love that colour.
00:23:49Seeing Jamie alone was pretty heartbreaking, to be honest.
00:23:52Like, her and Dave have been one of the strongest couples since the start.
00:23:55It's really sad.
00:23:57What is going on?
00:23:58Obviously, when I was with Adrian, we did partner swap.
00:24:02An issue that was raised, which I've kept private out of respect for Dave, is he doesn't
00:24:06initiate sex.
00:24:07Mm-hmm.
00:24:08Ever.
00:24:08I raised it with Adrian, and he's like, yeah, but you're suppressing your needs, and that's
00:24:13not fair.
00:24:14And I'm like, you know what?
00:24:14You're right.
00:24:16As I had time to think about it, I started connecting the dots.
00:24:19All the physical touch, compliments, it's all me.
00:24:23He's not showing up for me, romantically, whatsoever.
00:24:28And then I was like, shit, does Dave like me?
00:24:34Like, is he attracted to me?
00:24:36So I put it in the letter, and I go to address it.
00:24:42I question his feelings.
00:24:43He was very blasé.
00:24:45I was waiting for him to be like, no, like, are you joking?
00:24:48Like, of course I'm into it.
00:24:49I reassure you.
00:24:50Imagine having a conversation when you're questioning someone's attraction, not once
00:24:53did you go, of course I'm attracted to you.
00:24:55Yeah, that's not good.
00:24:56And then he goes, yeah, look, I think my feelings are in a different place.
00:25:01My feelings never grew.
00:25:02Like, they're not there.
00:25:05So disappointing.
00:25:07This just doesn't sound like the Dave that we come to know.
00:25:10It does not.
00:25:11It does not at all.
00:25:12It's like a different guy.
00:25:15It's like, glad this conversation came up, because it made me realise I don't, how do you
00:25:19just realise you don't have those feelings for me?
00:25:24Things with Dave, though, like, everything he's had on a couch, he's never spoke up.
00:25:28No, this is all news to us.
00:25:30We've never heard this.
00:25:31He hasn't said that in such a definite way before, has he?
00:25:34Not at all.
00:25:35He said, I'm building.
00:25:36Yes.
00:25:36I'm not there yet, but I can get there.
00:25:38Whereas it sounds now like he's actually said, no, I don't have those feelings for you.
00:25:42Backtracking.
00:25:43I'm not getting there.
00:25:44Yeah.
00:25:45And I'm like, you didn't think to tell me this?
00:25:48We're planning a future together.
00:25:51Oh, he's like, I was planning a future too.
00:25:53I'm like, why would you plan a future with me if you don't have those feelings for me?
00:25:56Yeah.
00:25:57Like, what the f*** is this?
00:25:59I feel like I had real feelings for a fake relationship.
00:26:05That's a huge statement for her, isn't it?
00:26:08That's essentially her saying, I feel like this whole relationship has been a farce.
00:26:11Mm-hmm.
00:26:13Wow.
00:26:13You guys know who you're laying next to at night.
00:26:16I didn't know who I was laying next to.
00:26:19She honestly got taken advantage of.
00:26:22This whole time, Dave has sort of somewhat been playing the game to look like this great,
00:26:25nice guy.
00:26:26And I'm sure he is a nice guy, but not that nice.
00:26:28That's beautiful.
00:26:29I respect him finally being honest, but tell me, I'm so sorry, I wanted this to work.
00:26:35He was just like, that's how the cookie crumbles.
00:26:38I was very shocked with what I was hearing from Jamie.
00:26:41Like, Dave's my best mate in this experiment.
00:26:43And to see what's happening right now, he's just got my mind racing.
00:26:47I'm so confused.
00:26:48He's given me no indication of having no feelings for Jamie.
00:26:51It's just cold.
00:26:52Like, the turnaround from last week to this week is just hard to wrap my head around.
00:26:58Dave and me were, like, really tired, and it's like, even just hearing this, I'm shocked.
00:27:02Hello.
00:27:03Hey.
00:27:04Hi, Mike.
00:27:06Missing one.
00:27:10Do you guys want a drink?
00:27:11No, thank you.
00:27:12So, Dave and I obviously didn't walk in together.
00:27:14I feel like I'm in, like, the same one.
00:27:17Same story.
00:27:18Pretty much said I, like, don't care.
00:27:20It is what it is.
00:27:21Yeah.
00:27:22Is he saying that he likes Jamie?
00:27:24No.
00:27:24No.
00:27:25He what?
00:27:25Yeah, legit, no.
00:27:26From what we just got there, I think they're done.
00:27:29They're done, man.
00:27:32I am perplexed, to say the least, that David and Jamie aren't in a good place.
00:27:37They're the pinnacle of this experiment.
00:27:39They have each other's backs.
00:27:40They speak so beautifully about each other.
00:27:43So, to see this just crack after a few days, it's confronting.
00:27:50I really hope you're okay, honestly.
00:27:51Like, no, thank you, thank you.
00:27:53I'm not asleep.
00:27:54Are you sure you don't?
00:27:55Yeah.
00:27:56We'll get to it.
00:27:57Yeah.
00:27:58I'm just saying, it's just like, f***ing hell.
00:28:01I'm like, I just can't wait.
00:28:03Every time, I was just talking to the boys about it, and just, like, every time we've talked
00:28:05about you guys outside of this is, like, yeah, f***ing hell.
00:28:08That's what I mean.
00:28:09Like, I thought this was, like, someone that I was going to be able to lie with.
00:28:13I've never seen Jamie that hurt.
00:28:25She was blindsided.
00:28:27You know, there was no rollercoaster.
00:28:29There was no build-up to this.
00:28:30It was just like they were 100%, then suddenly zero.
00:28:34How would anyone feel in that position?
00:28:36I'm mad at that man.
00:28:37I'm not happy.
00:28:38I'm just like, why was I in a fake relationship?
00:28:41This whole way she was up there.
00:28:42No, you weren't.
00:28:43He was.
00:28:44It's so mean.
00:28:45It's horrible.
00:28:46He led you on.
00:28:46And I'm not happy.
00:28:47Dave's hurt someone who's really close to me, and I'm not okay with that.
00:28:52I will listen to what he has to say, but if I think it's bullshit, I'm going to call
00:28:59him out.
00:29:00It's so mean.
00:29:01Like, if you did not have feelings of me, why didn't you tell me?
00:29:05Why did you not let you have had the war?
00:29:07You could have your guard up at least, not fall in love.
00:29:11I just don't want to see him.
00:29:13I don't want to look at him.
00:29:17I don't even want this anymore.
00:29:20I don't want this.
00:29:32So how's Jack's letter like?
00:29:35It was three pages long.
00:29:37What?
00:29:38A quarter of the first page was good stuff, and the rest was bad.
00:29:43She finished reading the letter.
00:29:44I said, um, I said, Jack, this is going to sound pretty brutal and harsh, but your relationship
00:29:49is going nowhere.
00:29:55Hey.
00:29:57Hi, guys.
00:29:57Oh, it's Jackie and Ryan.
00:30:02After the letter, after the letter, Jackie read out to me.
00:30:05I didn't think she was going to walk in together.
00:30:07That's wild.
00:30:08Hey, how are you?
00:30:09Good.
00:30:09How are you?
00:30:10Yeah, really well.
00:30:12Jackie's letter was two and a half pages of bad stuff.
00:30:14And how about you?
00:30:15Yeah, good.
00:30:16We had a good week.
00:30:17And then they walk in together, and it's like happy families.
00:30:19I'm like...
00:30:20I literally can't believe it.
00:30:22Like, I don't even know how they're smiling with each other.
00:30:24Another dinner party.
00:30:46I am worried about seeing Afina.
00:30:52And I'm not confrontational.
00:30:56Her and Adrian are very...
00:30:58Like, I'm intimidated by them and...
00:31:00Are you?
00:31:01Yeah, of course.
00:31:03I just have to own up to the words that I said and just take accountability for it.
00:31:17Okay.
00:31:18You sure?
00:31:25You sure?
00:31:35Hello!
00:31:37Hi!
00:31:39How are we?
00:31:40It's a trip.
00:31:41Karina and Paul.
00:31:47Karina looks very cautious.
00:31:51Yeah, they do look cautious.
00:31:52I agree.
00:31:53That was an unusual entrance for these two.
00:31:57I think the cross is giving, like, Kim K. Dolce, her old.
00:32:00I'm a newborn Christian.
00:32:02I had to go to church on Sunday, say some prayers.
00:32:07Was that your first time since the experiment started?
00:32:09Yeah.
00:32:10Yeah.
00:32:12Cheers!
00:32:13Cheers, cheers!
00:32:14I think Karina's putting on a happy face.
00:32:17That's fine for now.
00:32:19But I do appreciate the comment you made about my twin sister.
00:32:22You've made it on zero facts.
00:32:25And I'm still waiting for that apology.
00:32:27How was Elliot to be around?
00:32:29He was great to be around.
00:32:30Yeah.
00:32:30He was a really nice guy.
00:32:32The place was really clean.
00:32:33He bought me, like, heaps of fresh fruit and stuff.
00:32:35Oh, wow!
00:32:35Yeah, he's like, I know you're into fitness, so I bought you fresh fruit.
00:32:38And I was like, wow, thanks!
00:32:39That's his best behaviour.
00:32:40Yeah.
00:32:41Really annoying.
00:32:42Oh, there's Elliot.
00:32:45Where's me?
00:32:46Oh, Elliot.
00:32:47What is going on here?
00:32:48I don't know.
00:32:49But this feedback week has not been good for some of our couples.
00:32:52No.
00:32:53Hi.
00:32:53Hi.
00:32:54How are you, Elliot?
00:32:55How are you?
00:32:56I'm disappointed that Elliot walked into the dinner party alone tonight.
00:33:00I feel like Elliot and I had a great time, and I tried to be constructive in, like, you
00:33:06know, the feedback that I was giving to Elliot, but clearly something's happened.
00:33:12I, um, tried to take on some of your advice, and, yeah, I think it actually went the other
00:33:17way.
00:33:18After her letter, it was like, kaboom.
00:33:21Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was, it, yeah, she packed her stuff, she's gone.
00:33:26Anyway, here we are.
00:33:27I'm sorry.
00:33:28No, it's...
00:33:28Did that happen?
00:33:29That really sucks.
00:33:30And then Dave spent three days with Vee, and his relationship's done.
00:33:33She said she had the best time in the world with Dave.
00:33:34Oh, here we are.
00:33:44Hi.
00:33:45Hey.
00:33:46Veronica's here.
00:33:48Don't all jump up at once.
00:33:50There's a lot of solo people in there tonight.
00:33:52There are.
00:33:54Two couples, completely separate.
00:33:58Going into the cocktail party, the reception is cold.
00:34:02Elliot didn't even bother to walk two metres to come and say hello to me, and if he thinks
00:34:07that I'm going to move 100 metres across the room, and he's not going to make the two metre
00:34:12step to say hello to me, like, I don't care.
00:34:14Are we missing anyone today?
00:34:35I'm sweating, bro, thinking about that, eh?
00:34:37Dave must be very anxious about how the night's going to go.
00:34:40Dave is going to walk in to a group that is ready to ask him the hard questions.
00:34:59Well, they've certainly all seen the effect of them walking in separately, and how Jamie
00:35:13is feeling and reacting, and it's clearly very heartfelt and genuine that she's very, very
00:35:18sad.
00:35:21In the whole community, can I say that?
00:35:23I get it.
00:35:24Working?
00:35:25You know, expecting.
00:35:26Your mate.
00:35:31Do you know what the thing about tonight is?
00:35:34This is not the first time that he's, like, firing himself.
00:35:36Like, he's in my cousin named Jamie there.
00:35:38100%.
00:35:38I like Dave, but do I think he's done Jamie dirty?
00:35:42100%.
00:35:42I'm actually just keen to hear what he has to say.
00:35:45Yeah, I am.
00:35:45I just want to see what he has to say about it.
00:35:47There's so much to unpack here.
00:35:54Dave definitely has a lot to answer for tonight.
00:36:05Ladies and gentlemen.
00:36:07Big D.
00:36:09Hey!
00:36:09Oh, my God, how are you, mate?
00:36:11You OK?
00:36:11Yeah.
00:36:13Hello.
00:36:13What?
00:36:14Looking good.
00:36:15You too, mate.
00:36:17Hi, Jamie.
00:36:27Hi.
00:36:28How are you going?
00:36:28You going?
00:36:31Didn't he say hi to you?
00:36:32Yeah, he did.
00:36:33Oh, like, it's so uncomfortable.
00:36:35Like, I'm like, oh, my God, it's so uncomfortable.
00:36:38Is that a window I can jump out on?
00:36:40From everything I've heard from Jamie so far, it's not great.
00:36:46But then Dave seems like he's OK.
00:36:49So, yeah, I just want to hear what he has to say.
00:36:51Well, we just got the run now from Jamie.
00:36:54Oh, yeah?
00:36:54Oh, you know that?
00:36:55Yeah.
00:36:56I'll have to explain it.
00:36:57We don't want to just hear it from her, though, man.
00:36:59Like, we obviously...
00:37:01It's two sides to a story.
00:37:03We didn't expect this because we thought you guys were just so solid and so good.
00:37:07And we were.
00:37:08And we are.
00:37:10We're great.
00:37:10Feedback week, Adrian sort of asked Jamie, are my feelings there for her?
00:37:18And then what was brought up to me is getting my feelings questioned.
00:37:23That's what prompted it.
00:37:24It was me to sit down after feedback.
00:37:26What am I feeling?
00:37:27Yeah.
00:37:27And what am I actually feeling?
00:37:29But, yeah, I'm not there.
00:37:33I want to feel those things that Jamie is feeling.
00:37:35But it's just the things that she wants, I can't give it to her.
00:37:38Oh, there you go.
00:37:39There's things that she wants and I can't give it to her.
00:37:43Like, yeah, I care about her.
00:37:45So it's like...
00:37:47I don't hate the girl.
00:37:50The girl.
00:37:51I don't hate the girl.
00:37:53That's what he said.
00:37:56Oh, gosh.
00:37:58I don't hate the girl.
00:38:00That's a far cry from I'm in love with you.
00:38:06Wow.
00:38:09Dinner is served.
00:38:13I don't know.
00:38:43This is a bit of a frosty room.
00:39:00Very, very quiet.
00:39:05Feels tense. Feels awkward.
00:39:08That's a good-sized glass.
00:39:13That's intense.
00:39:15Yes.
00:39:16Yeah.
00:39:17I'm attempting to do it.
00:39:18Right.
00:39:18It's good.
00:39:19It's good.
00:39:19There's definitely some tension between everyone at the dinner table tonight.
00:39:38And I'm honestly nervous.
00:39:42Like, I feel like I need to speak to Afina.
00:39:44It is super important that I explain my comment that I made about Afina's sister.
00:39:52And fully just apologise and take accountability for it.
00:39:55I have to do this now.
00:39:59But I don't know how she's going to act.
00:40:02Can I pull you to the side?
00:40:04Do you want to come?
00:40:05Yeah.
00:40:06All right.
00:40:21First of all, I want to take full accountability for saying what I said.
00:40:33And I...
00:40:34It's not nice.
00:40:36I'm fully aware of the comments that I made.
00:40:40They're not nice words.
00:40:42And I...
00:40:43Can I have a private chat with Karina?
00:40:45Sorry.
00:40:45Yeah, that's okay.
00:40:46You're okay.
00:40:47That's fine.
00:40:52We don't need an audience.
00:40:55Karina's calibre comment.
00:40:58Obviously, that was a direct attack to my twin sister.
00:41:00And it was a bit snobbish.
00:41:02It really pissed me off.
00:41:03I feel like some very real apologies need to be said from Karina.
00:41:10I just...
00:41:11Yeah, I'm...
00:41:12I'm...
00:41:12I take full accountability for what I said.
00:41:18That...
00:41:18That comment that I made.
00:41:21It was a rude comment.
00:41:22It was disrespectful.
00:41:23And I judged you.
00:41:24And I put you and your sister in a context that's not a nice light.
00:41:29I felt really upset.
00:41:30Because when Paul obviously mentioned that, that's my twin sister.
00:41:33So when he mentioned it, I was like...
00:41:35It was like a faceless comment.
00:41:38Of course.
00:41:38I felt super insecure when I found out how you and Paul knew each other.
00:41:43Because he didn't tell me or care to tell me that he knew a girl that was coming to the experiment.
00:41:48Let alone from Perth.
00:41:49And let alone that he had gotten with her twin sister and had a fling with her.
00:41:53So obviously, there's a lot of things that are going to play up in my mind.
00:41:55And I said that comment in confidence with Paul.
00:41:59And I didn't want any of that to come up.
00:42:01I was like, Paul, how's Afina going to feel?
00:42:04Her.
00:42:04I felt her.
00:42:07I'm sorry if I disrespected you.
00:42:09And I'm sorry if that comment just hurt you so much.
00:42:13I didn't...
00:42:13I didn't mean it.
00:42:14I accept your apology.
00:42:15And I think that you truly mean it.
00:42:17I do accept Karina's apology.
00:42:20It was from a place of jealousy, insecurity.
00:42:22I understand that.
00:42:23And to be honest, I just want to move forward.
00:42:26Okay, that's enough for the reason.
00:42:28They both have issues that they still need to work on together.
00:42:34Karina's feeling very hurt.
00:42:36And she felt betrayed by Paul.
00:42:40How are you feeling?
00:42:44Yeah, I'm definitely...
00:42:45You're feeling a bit later that you've apologised to her
00:42:49and that she's told you that she's okay with it?
00:42:50Should I need to do better?
00:42:53Okay, good.
00:42:55Do you understand now, like, that the reason why
00:42:57I was feeling a little bit disheartened
00:42:59at your reaction after my letter?
00:43:01Because I just...
00:43:03It's like you couldn't see at all where I was coming from
00:43:07and so obviously, like, I felt like my concerns were...
00:43:11irrelevant.
00:43:12Which is why, like, the way it escalated, I just...
00:43:18I just...
00:43:19What escalated?
00:43:21More the whole letter thing, just completely escalated.
00:43:25You threw me under the bus with Afina's sister.
00:43:29Are you going to take accountability for that, Paul?
00:43:32You couldn't see at all where I was coming from
00:43:44and so obviously, like, I felt like my concerns were irrelevant.
00:43:49Which is why, like, the way it escalated, I just...
00:43:52What escalated?
00:43:54More the whole letter thing, just completely escalated.
00:43:57You threw me under the bus with Afina's sister.
00:44:00Are you going to take accountability for that, Paul?
00:44:03Yeah, I know.
00:44:04Because obviously I'm affected by that.
00:44:06And that another girl who has nothing to do with our relationship
00:44:10that I came to in private, feeling like I can be confident.
00:44:14And that's where I have my walls up right now
00:44:17because I felt like no matter what the comment was,
00:44:20and yes, it wasn't the right comment, and I feel...
00:44:22Why don't we... Why can't we just leave it there?
00:44:25Yes, it was the wrong comment.
00:44:26Because you're still saying...
00:44:27Why do you still have to say that I'm throwing you under the bus and everything?
00:44:30No-one had to know about that but you and me.
00:44:33I came to you and I told you how I felt.
00:44:37Yeah, and I thought that you're coming in.
00:44:39And I was insecure, and I did it, and I did it.
00:44:40Yeah, but see, but that's not on me, that's on you.
00:44:41It's not my fault if you're insecure.
00:44:42I just said the comment, though,
00:44:44thinking that it was going to just stay between you and me.
00:44:46Yeah, but no, it was still between you and me.
00:44:48That you're the one that brought this out into the open,
00:44:49and all I wanted was to have a confident conversation between you and me,
00:44:54thinking, I'm your wife and you're my husband.
00:44:57Right now, I feel like I've been thrown under the bus and my guard is up.
00:45:02She probably did expect me to bring it up to Athena,
00:45:04but it's not like I was just standing there in front of the whole group
00:45:08and just announcing to the whole group,
00:45:09hey, by the way, this is what she said, you know?
00:45:12And honestly, like, I still stand by it.
00:45:15The fact that you keep saying, like, I'm throwing you under the bus,
00:45:18that makes me feel that next time if I have to bring concerns,
00:45:21are you going to do the same?
00:45:21Are you going to bring your walls up,
00:45:23and are you going to feel, like, attacked
00:45:24or think that I'm throwing you under the bus?
00:45:26See, like, that's the problem I have at the moment.
00:45:29Oh, that's the problem we have.
00:45:31As my husband, I would think that you would just keep it within us.
00:45:35I felt like you put a knife to my heart,
00:45:38and I feel like, no, it's not, Paul,
00:45:40because I actually have strong feelings for you.
00:45:43It's made me feel like I cannot trust you right now
00:45:46because I'm scared.
00:45:47I've done everything from day one to create that safe space.
00:45:51I've done... I haven't done anything.
00:45:53And how did you not say that you literally threw me
00:45:54under the bus to another wife?
00:45:57We are just not seeing eye to eye right now.
00:46:01Because of one comment that I brought in the letter
00:46:03has made you get your walls up.
00:46:06Because I want...
00:46:07I feel like right now I can't trust him,
00:46:10and it's making me question our relationship.
00:46:15Yeah.
00:46:21You okay?
00:46:22Mm.
00:46:29I'm just, like, happy.
00:46:31Like, for once, like, Ryan and I have got no drama going on.
00:46:35I honestly...
00:46:36It sounds so weird,
00:46:37but I feel like we've got one of the strongest relationships
00:46:39just because, like, we don't sugarcoat things.
00:46:42And we are really honest with each other.
00:46:45I actually think we're a role model for the other couples,
00:46:47whether they know it or not.
00:46:48Obviously, I've spent a few days with Jackie,
00:46:54and, uh, the thing she wrote...
00:46:57The thing she wrote in the honesty letter,
00:47:00like, I cannot believe they're living together.
00:47:03Like, she's read that out to him,
00:47:04and they're still together.
00:47:06Like, the letter was damning for the relationship,
00:47:10and then I see them tonight, you know,
00:47:12holding hands, kissing,
00:47:13like nothing's wrong in their relationship.
00:47:14And it's just...
00:47:17It just doesn't add up.
00:47:18Like, to me, there's no future.
00:47:20Hey, Ryan.
00:47:21Hey, Ryan.
00:47:22I've got a question for you, Ryan.
00:47:24Yeah, go, go.
00:47:25When Jackie was reading that letter to you,
00:47:27was there alarm bells going off about that?
00:47:29About a few things in there.
00:47:30Just for context,
00:47:31the letter was two and a half pages
00:47:32of negative things in a relationship.
00:47:34How did you feel when that letter got read out to you?
00:47:37Well, at the same time, I said before...
00:47:38He overreacted and got...
00:47:39You know, I was shocked at some of the things you said
00:47:43because you use a lot of extreme language, all right?
00:47:46You accused me.
00:47:46You said, I'm worried you don't work as hard as me.
00:47:48You insulted my finances.
00:47:50You insulted my career.
00:47:51You insulted my...
00:47:52Pretty much my whole character, bro.
00:47:54That letter was garbage, you know?
00:47:56Like, it's a distorted view,
00:47:59and you ask anyone else in the world who knows me,
00:48:01and that's not my character.
00:48:03I disagree with your use of terminology,
00:48:05saying, like, Ryan needs submission,
00:48:07needs a trad wife.
00:48:08A what?
00:48:10A trad wife.
00:48:11A traditional wife.
00:48:12Oh, sorry.
00:48:13For, like, someone who takes a submissive position...
00:48:15No, not at all.
00:48:16Oh, please.
00:48:18Like, could you get any more melodramatic?
00:48:20You know, I want to clarify,
00:48:21I do not desire that at all.
00:48:24I feel like the letter was a great prompt
00:48:26to get me to write down all of my concerns
00:48:28that I've been having.
00:48:29So I feel like the letter worked.
00:48:30I definitely got some feedback, right?
00:48:32Can I just talk?
00:48:33Can I talk?
00:48:34That letter...
00:48:35Can I talk?
00:48:36...worked.
00:48:37That makes sense.
00:48:39The letter worked.
00:48:39Yeah, no, no, it's not that letter.
00:48:42Well...
00:48:42Well...
00:48:43Jep, Jep is shocked.
00:48:46I've actually given up trying to understand
00:48:48the relationship.
00:48:49Am I, was I listening to a different letter?
00:48:51When you hear John, Alessandra and Mel
00:48:53say they're confused,
00:48:54what hope do I have?
00:48:55I'm just a mere mortal.
00:48:56Coming up...
00:49:04Jamie's heartbreak...
00:49:06No, tell me you love me.
00:49:08How far in we are.
00:49:09You have not shown up to me.
00:49:13Dave's moment of truth...
00:49:15Dave, I just want to know what...
00:49:16Like, do you want to fight for this?
00:49:18You want this, don't you?
00:49:20Like, do you want this relationship?
00:49:21Are you all right?
00:49:34Yeah, always.
00:49:35That's good.
00:49:37Amongst all the chaos tonight,
00:49:39isn't it wonderful to see Rhi and Geoff?
00:49:41Yes.
00:49:42They're like the centre of the storm,
00:49:44really solid,
00:49:45connecting with each other,
00:49:47checking in with each other.
00:49:49They're really still a team.
00:49:50It's great to see.
00:49:52I'm doing great.
00:49:54I'm so grateful for you.
00:49:59That's great.
00:50:01You're cute.
00:50:02Ha, ha, ha.
00:50:04Ha, ha, ha.
00:50:05Ha, ha, ha.
00:50:05Close.
00:50:07Ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:50:17Do you want a little bit of red or white?
00:50:19Red's fine.
00:50:20Okay.
00:50:24I just...
00:50:25I don't want to look at him.
00:50:28He makes me feel sick.
00:50:34The way we left this morning,
00:50:37I felt like I had more questions than answers.
00:50:41You have just broken me.
00:50:43And after everything we've been through,
00:50:49like, creating this partnership
00:50:51that I thought I was going to carry through in my life,
00:50:55the least you can do is try to sort it out,
00:50:58try to apologise.
00:50:59Anything that makes me feel like this wasn't all bullshit.
00:51:03Anything.
00:51:03Well, guys, I'm a little bit shocked to see Jamie and Dave
00:51:13walking separately tonight.
00:51:14I don't know the full story.
00:51:16I'd really love to know,
00:51:17because you guys seem so pure, so united, so strong.
00:51:20Um, yeah, what's happened, guys?
00:51:28Um, from Partner Swap,
00:51:32I raised an issue with Adrian.
00:51:35I wanted feedback on the fact
00:51:37that Dave doesn't initiate intimacy.
00:51:42And he's not really showing up for me romantically.
00:51:45It causes concern as to how you,
00:51:53I don't know, maybe don't desire me in that way.
00:51:58So when I raised this conversation with Dave,
00:52:02I questioned his overall feelings for me.
00:52:05And then you came to the conclusion
00:52:08that, you know, the feelings are on a different spot,
00:52:11which we're aware they are on a different spot,
00:52:13and that's what's impacting you
00:52:15to show up in intimacy or showing up romantically.
00:52:19And then you came to the apartment today.
00:52:23You decided to tell me...
00:52:25You realised, yeah, your feelings haven't progressed.
00:52:28You're not feeling it.
00:52:34There was no emotion.
00:52:37And you just blanked me.
00:52:39Yeah, cos it was awkward.
00:52:41Cos it was awkward.
00:52:43Cos it was awkward.
00:52:46You could finish talking.
00:52:47I'll tell you where I'm at.
00:52:52How do you think that has made Jamie feel?
00:52:57Um...
00:52:58I don't know.
00:53:04There was nothing.
00:53:05There was no remorse, compassion, empathy.
00:53:08you broke my heart and you didn't care and it made me freak out well that's why i didn't go
00:53:18really
00:53:19gosh dave's so different he's got a wall up he's detached he's checked out this is not the dave we
00:53:30know from what i can see you are being really quite closed off what's this about tell me about your
00:53:38demeanor who have i been laying next to this whole experiment dave
00:53:52okay well this is where i'm this is where i'm coming in at feedback week
00:53:56it freaked me out the intimacy thing being brought up that's when i had to sit back and think about it
00:54:02all i realized that i can't express myself the way that you want me to
00:54:10because i am not at the level of i'm not at the level of love that you have
00:54:18and my feelings aren't gradually getting bigger and bigger at the moment
00:54:26we're so far in and now you've realized your feelings aren't progressing
00:54:37you're telling me because i asked you and you spent time away you realize you don't
00:54:42i have to really think about it yeah
00:54:45we're three months into living with each other and it's still it's still not okay so two months
00:54:51when you made the comment that your feelings haven't progressed at what stage do you mean
00:54:59it hasn't regressed like we understand it's been it's been a while i've mentioned it all the time
00:55:05on the couch that
00:55:09who has heard that his feelings have not been progressing on the couch
00:55:13because i must have been in a different ceremony i said i dress on the couch all the time that
00:55:18i'm worried about my feelings and that i can't express the love that you do to me
00:55:24what couch session was i a part of because that's not what you said to me on the couch
00:55:28not sure about that no
00:55:31like what we've seen retreat like even going back a week before that like it was all looking
00:55:36so positive and then now it's just like turn on his head which is hard for me personally to wrap my
00:55:42head around until the last few days i've i've seen no like chinks in their armor at all
00:55:49they've been as solid as anyone so i just want to know like dave did you actually have feelings for
00:55:54jamie like or did you go through this whole time i don't know whether dave has just come to the
00:55:59realization that he's not 100 in it jamie has admitted to loving him when someone's falling in
00:56:08love with you and you didn't feel the same you'd think you would say something a little bit sooner
00:56:12i still care about us it's it's just a struggle at the moment so how are you expressing your
00:56:20feeling for me you don't tell me you don't show that's what i mean i'm not where you're at i think
00:56:25i'm going to feel i'm not i'm not where you're at so why are you putting a time limit on it i take
00:56:30a long time it's not tell me you love me tell how far in we are you have not showed up for me
00:56:44he's hurt me so much
00:57:08who am i trusting with my heart that's not okay
00:57:17you don't just need to be in love for me to show up for me romantically we've built
00:57:21three months together dave three months and i'll plenty of future with you and you're telling me
00:57:25today you're like i don't those feelings haven't progressed for you when did you want to tell me
00:57:29that i think it's not about her now it's about you instead what you see at the table with her you
00:57:39know what i mean this is about you now it's not about her it's about how you feel yeah what you
00:57:43want what i'm saying i'm being honest with how i feel yeah yeah so how do you want me to not be up
00:57:49who are you to ask me like sorry i'm not absolutely perfect like jesus christ oh my god
00:57:55i don't buy dave i'm like why are you getting so defensive i think dave has been feeling sort of
00:58:03top away for a while and that week away from jamie he really realized that yeah jamie's not the person
00:58:11that i want this is the first speed hump that we've had and it freaks me out yeah yeah it's a big speed
00:58:17hump but what's confusing dave is you sit on the couch with commitment ceremony you back up everything
00:58:24jamie's saying about you know you guys pursuing this after a potentially living situation yeah
00:58:29that's why we're all so confused but yes thank you i sat on the couch next to you thinking we're
00:58:34building a future together okay well who is that man that's not the dave i've met like there's just
00:58:45with no emotion to find out today his feelings haven't progressed and the way he delivered it was
00:58:52without compassion isn't someone who's upset that their partner's hurting that's the one who doesn't
00:59:00care i still don't feel any compassion from you i really don't i don't know who i've been laying in
00:59:08bed next to i feel like our entire relationship is a lie the way you're looking at me the way you're
00:59:17next to me the way you've handled every situation is proving what i'm saying is true and that is
00:59:22what hurts more than anything well i think it's been great and i've had so many good memories i'm so
00:59:31glad you had fun it's been amazing it's been great and i think you're a wonderful person and i think
00:59:37you're one of the best i've ever met so wow that's really validating it's like a guy that wants to get
00:59:43out of a relationship but doesn't know how to say it he's sending very mixed messages there's a
00:59:48little bit of hope i don't have the feelings i want this to work and i do i don't feel it of course
00:59:55you don't feel it you're fuming so you're not going to feel it right now
01:00:02i've never heard this side of dave before i feel as if that those two could have had each other's
01:00:07backs through a through a winter storm you know i saw that as like out of character he's been
01:00:13arcing up a little bit all night how am i supposed to believe you i feel like i trusted
01:00:18you with my heart and you shut on it it hurts me when you say that yeah it does and i put in real
01:00:25feelings it hurts you when i say that imagine how i'm feeling yeah exactly but i'm just saying don't
01:00:30say that i'm not i don't feel hurt and i'm pretending to be hurt because it does oh no he didn't
01:00:35just say it hurts him oh dave no dave do you do you think that eventually your feelings will grow
01:00:44the same way well i'm saying i am jamie that's why i put in this all this work is to get here
01:00:49hopeful just the word like do you feel it progressing that way or you're just hopeful
01:00:53hopeful just the word out there you know i feel like yeah i feel like i'm struggling yeah i do but
01:00:57i do have hope for it like why do you struggle do you think i don't know i mean i don't know when was
01:01:03like the point where the feeling stopped progressing i don't know i don't know every time
01:01:10they back him into a corner he doesn't know someone that would want it to work would have
01:01:16a very different presentation than what we're seeing right now yeah saying what can i do i'll
01:01:21do it exactly you're about to lose me and you're just like well i'm under fire at the moment i'm
01:01:28i'm feel i'm uncomfortable no actually everyone is actually letting you off very easy they're
01:01:33asking you questions no one's coming at you you've come at everyone coming at you no one coming at
01:01:39you what i mean is i'm getting questioned right now i'm uncomfortable so yeah that's fair but like
01:01:43at the end of the day we're all coming from a good place we've seen how amazing your relationship has
01:01:47been so like to see it just go down the drain now is would be tragic so it's all coming from a good
01:01:53place i'd hate this relationship to end like they've been together for a long time and they've
01:01:59been through some tough stuff so hopefully he can realize that this relationship is not worth throwing
01:02:04away what's changed i don't know yeah dave and veronica are being very required about their time
01:02:15together you know it's got me thinking you know you know what doesn't make sense to me is that you
01:02:22know i know you know what doesn't make sense to me is you spend two days with v and all of a sudden
01:02:26you realize oh i actually don't know if i've got these feelings for you know for jamie
01:02:39did you spend time with v and be like oh you know what maybe v's more my type
01:02:45oh my god what are you talking about
01:03:15is being more your type
01:03:20no no veronica and i spent three days together and we had a laugh and we got along and that's it
01:03:27that's not what it was at all i feel like adrian's a bit of a snake why well asking those kind of
01:03:34questions and clearly seeing where jamie and i are it's snake-like veronica said that the two days
01:03:41she spent with dave she felt more connected than with me for a whole life it's not hard he actually
01:03:47looked at my eyeballs when he was talking to me elliot stop trying to make it something that it's not
01:03:52elliot was trying to imply that dave and i have a connection unbelievable uh yeah not a vibe not a vibe
01:04:04dave i just want to know what like do you want to fight for for this like do you see any work
01:04:10and there's no right answer like say actually how you feel because she needs the truth
01:04:14do you want this you want this don't you like do you want this relationship
01:04:20of course i want this to work
01:04:21you are so special to me you know who i am you really do and this is a situation i've handled badly
01:04:38i really do care about you jamie you know i do want to fight for this
01:04:44you need to figure out if you want to be with me prove it i cannot carry this team anymore
01:04:50yeah okay it is your turn to pull your finger out out of your ass if you want to be with me
01:04:55so i deserve everything okay i'm not going to put anything into this anymore
01:05:03you're really that dead keen on me prove it i'll be happy to
01:05:08what is the state of your relationship right now
01:05:16i'm still married
01:05:29sunday night i feel inadequate sometimes i feel like i don't measure up
01:05:34vulnerabilities laid bare is because maybe he's not attracted to me like i am to him
01:05:40it's the second last commitment ceremony of the experiment
01:05:43i came here to find my forever person i wholeheartedly hope that it's jeff i love that
01:05:50yeah somebody over there is lying the experts apply the pressure you're lacking emotional
01:05:59intelligence there seems to be a sensitivity chip missing as paul faces the consequences of his
01:06:05honesty letter i felt like i can't fully trust him right now are you now questioning whether or not you
01:06:10and paul are truly compatible as a couple i didn't expect that
01:06:18and then we spent five couch sessions with you thinking everything is going
01:06:25well dave's moment of truth do you have romantic feelings for jamie dave
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