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At today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) questioned Emil Bove, nominee to be to be United States Circuit Judge for the Third Circuit, and current Deputy AG.
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00:00Thank you. Mr. Chairman, can I make one point? Yeah. We know we are operating under a five-minute rule,
00:06but you've given some latitude, for example, to the last senator, and I'm not objecting to it.
00:10What did you say? I'm saying the time to speak has been five minutes established.
00:15We've gone over that as a convenience to our colleagues, and I hope we'll continue that. Okay.
00:20Okay. In 2018, Mr. Bovee, a group of federal criminal defense attorneys and former SDNY prosecutors in Manhattan
00:30were so alarmed by your pattern of unethical conduct that they wrote your supervisors at SDNY to warn them about you.
00:39I'd like to enter into the record a letter that I sent to acting U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton of SDNY
00:45requesting more information about any internal or external complaints about you as a prosecutor.
00:52The letter contains the full text of that 2018 email from lawyers in which they describe you,
00:58and I'm quoting here, they describe you as, quote, vindictive, always looking for leverage and power,
01:06a prosecutor, prosecutor version of a drunk driver, completely reckless and out of control,
01:12quote, needing adult supervision. One attorney said that you, whether, whether due justice,
01:18whatever due justice is supposed to mean, it doesn't apply to Bovee. A former federal prosecutor
01:25who later litigated against you said what Mr. Bovee enjoyed most as a prosecutor was wielding power,
01:33a quality they described as the single worst possible trait for a public servant.
01:38Now, I read these because they're important that these complaints are not an attempt to derail your
01:44nomination. This is from 2018. Person after person, these complaints come from attorneys
01:51who practiced in federal court, some former federal prosecutors, warning a U.S. attorney's office
01:58that one of their prosecutors was, quote, a real recurring problem and that you were not
02:07representing the office in a way that they thought the office would want it represented.
02:12Your conduct was so beyond the pale back in 2018 that they wrote your supervisors to say you were
02:19a liability for the office. I think this is important because it shows a pattern of behavior.
02:26The allegations align with reports about your abuse of power now at the DOJ.
02:31I want to follow up in this pattern with what Senator Durbin's questions about the mandatory
02:37teams meeting you scheduled for all remaining public integrity section attorneys on February
02:4414th, 2025. We already know that you're refusing to tell this committee whether you talk to Stephen
02:50Miller or others at the White House. All the chiefs and supervisors had resigned at this point,
02:57so all of the remaining and available attorneys were line attorneys in that meeting. Is that
03:02correct? Approximately 20 attorneys were on the team's call. I do hope, Senator, that at some
03:13point I'll have an opportunity. You were trying to find two attorneys to sign a motion to dismiss the
03:20Adams case without prejudice. Is that correct? Yes. During the meeting you told attorneys that it is
03:29their job to implement the president's agenda and that they have to follow orders from the president
03:34and that there's no room for dissent in the chain of command. Is that correct? No. You told them that
03:43they had one hour to find two attorneys to sign the motion. They weren't allowed to ask questions.
03:49Is that correct? No. You started the meeting by emphasizing to the line attorneys that Danielle
03:57Sasson and Hagan Scott had failed to follow orders and that Ms. Sasson was going to be reassigned
04:05before she resigned. Correct. I'm sorry, I didn't understand the last part of that question. I will
04:12state again. You stated, started the meeting by emphasizing to the line attorneys that Danielle Sasson
04:19and Hagan Scott had failed to follow orders and that Ms. Sasson was going to be reassigned
04:26before she resigned. Is that correct? No. Okay. You also told them that whoever signed the motion would,
04:37quote, emerge as the new leaders, end quote, of the public integrity section for doing so. Correct?
04:45I don't recall saying that. So you don't know if you said that or not?
04:52I don't recall saying that. Edward Sullivan volunteered to sign the motion. As promised,
04:59Sullivan was promoted to acting chief of the public integrity section for dismissing that case.
05:04Is that correct? No. So you are saying that as the leader of the DOJ, you don't know who is in
05:11charge of public integrity? No. I'm saying that the causal relationship that you implied in your
05:18question is not accurate. Okay. We have you on the record on all of those points. You worked on
05:24January 6th cases while a prosecutor at the SDNY, correct? A supervisor, yes. An FBI agent described
05:32you as treating the January 6th cases as a priority when you were prosecuting those cases. But then you
05:39fired dozens of prosecutors and eight senior FBI officials working on the case. Is that correct?
05:47No. So, Mr. Bove, I am hoping that more evidence is going to come out that showed that you lied before
05:56this committee. And I'm wondering where the lines are for you. What's the line in the sand when you
06:04wield awesome power of government? What is that line for you? Because clearly lying to a court isn't a
06:11red line. Referring to follow court or refusing to follow court orders isn't a line. Doxing judges and
06:17government officials isn't a red line. Intimidating attorneys you supervise into doing things they
06:22believe is unethical is not a line. So what's your red line? I really wonder, what could the
06:30president ask you to do that you wouldn't do? What wouldn't you do to win? A judge has to uphold
06:36core values and principles, independence, impartiality, integrity, diligence. A judge must be free from undue
06:45influence. A judge must decide cases fairly without prejudice or favor. A judge must ensure that anyone
06:52who appears before them in court will get a fair shake. Everything we're hearing you say makes me
06:59believe that you're incapable of that. The pattern didn't just begin when you were nominated by this
07:04president. Peers of yours, prosecutors, attorneys who served with you, and judges in your past year
07:11have again and again cited you as someone who is not capable or qualified of doing this job in which
07:19you're nominated for. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Bovey, thank you so much for being here today.

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