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Sparks Fly As Ted Cruz & Cory Booker Clash After Booker Accuses Cruz Of 'Patent Lie'
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6/3/2025
At today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Sen. Ted Cruz and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) battled over Cruz's claim that Democrats did nothing when mobs of protesters demonstrated in front of the homes of Supreme Court Justices.
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make two brief observations. Number one, it is interesting as our Democrat
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colleagues defend these nationwide injunctions that neither of them made
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any reference to the fact that the number of nationwide injunctions issued
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in the first four months is greater than the entire 20th century and is greater
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than all of the nationwide injunctions issued against Bush, Obama and Biden
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combined, nor did they address the disturbing fact that of the 40 universal
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injunctions that have been issued in the last four months, 35 of them came from the
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same five judicial districts. There is a reason for this. Blue state attorneys
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general and radical leftist groups are seeking out affirmatively radical judges
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who they know will impose their own policy preferences. If it were simply, as our
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Democrat colleagues said, judges following the law, then you wouldn't have to keep
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going to the same radical judges over and over and over again because judges across
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the board should do that. But the litigants know exactly who the zealots are that are
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on the bench and that's who they are seeking out. I will also point out that the
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discussion about the urgency of protecting the safety of judges. Listen, I agree. We should protect
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the safety of every federal judge, but it is interesting because my Democrat colleagues were
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utterly silent during four years of the Biden administration when you had violent mobs outside
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the homes of Supreme Court justices unhappy with the Supreme Court's ruling in Dobbs and the Biden
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Justice Department refused to enforce federal law and protect the justices. And my Democrat colleagues
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were perfectly happy with Supreme Court justices being threatened if they disliked the rulings that
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were coming from the Supreme Court justices. Unlike my colleagues, I believe we should protect judges
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regardless of whether I agree with them or not. We should protect their safety. And every time you hear
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a Democrat senator talk about protecting judges from acts of violence, you ought to ask them,
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why did they not have a word to say about the Biden Justice Department allowing mobs
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to threaten the families and children of Supreme Court justices night after night after night while
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Biden's Attorney General refused to follow the law? And with that, I'll recognize the ranking member of
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the full committee, Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator Cruz. They asked Winston Churchill after World War
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Trump, would you indulge me for a moment? We indulge you every moment. I appreciate that.
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Act of generosity. It's just something you said that I think is actually dangerous and
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should be addressed, and you're welcome. But when Judge Anderall was killed in New Jersey,
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the Republican colleagues in the Senate, their outpouring of support, their outpouring of concern,
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their willing to work together on a bipartisan bill was extraordinary. It shows the truth of
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this institution that, despite some of the fiery rhetoric that you were showing, we're really a
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bipartisan, working bipartisanship. Cornyn and Coombs, after the incidents you're talking about,
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got together and actually passed a bill to better protect our Supreme Court justices,
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many of whom are friends of ours. You know, Gorsuch and I disagree on a lot of stuff. I knew his wife
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before he did. We studied together at Oxford. This implication that there was silence when there
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were threats on their people's houses is absolutely absurd. I remember the rhetoric and the comments,
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the concern from Coons. I actually distinctly remember you, Chairman, on more than once condemning
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those attacks on Republican-appointed jurists. To say things like that feeds just the partisanship
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in this institution and feeds the fiery rhetoric. And it's just plain not true. It's just plain
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not true. And I think you know that, but we can pull from the record from my colleagues in real time,
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literally days afterwards, condemning it. There's a lot of substantive things to say here, but to think
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that the lack of humanity when people's homes are being threatened was not in existence, I think that's unfair
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and really concerns me that you would say that in the way that you did.
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Well, I thank my colleague from New Jersey. I will note, as John Adams observed, that facts are stubborn
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things. And it is existing federal law, 18 U.S.C. Section 1507, that makes it a crime to protest at
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a judge's home. And the law provides whoever with the intent of interfering with obstructing or impeding
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the administration of justice or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer
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in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United
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States in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court
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officer, or with such intent uses any sound truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration
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in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
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one year or both. That is federal criminal law. Night after night after night, angry mobs were outside
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the Supreme Court justice's homes. And in the entire course of it, the Biden Justice Department
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prosecuted nobody. We had the Attorney General sitting at that table and multiple Republican senators
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asked him, why are you not enforcing the law? What they are doing is a crime. And my friend from New
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Jersey said, it is a lie to say we, the Democrats, condone this. I would challenge my friend, find a
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single Democrat senator on this committee holding the Attorney General to account for not enforcing this
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law. I was here at those hearings and I do not recall a single Democrat senator saying to the Attorney
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General, you should arrest these people who are violating the law, you should protect the judges.
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I agree that there was general language against violence, but not a single Democrat senator that
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I ever saw in this committee was willing to hold Attorney General Merrick Garland to account for
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flagrantly disregarding the federal criminal law because the Biden administration agreed with the
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protesters and I think wanted those justices harassed at their homes. I really appreciate that you've
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now shifted the accusation you made earlier. Your accusation was that we were silent in the face of
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protests at Supreme Court justices' homes. Again, we joined together in a bipartisan way, not only to
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condemn that, but to pass legislation to extend round-the-clock security protection, literally days.
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It was introduced May 5th, passed the Senate in a bipartisan fashion on May 9th. So if you're
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saying that we didn't criticize Merrick Garland- Did the DOJ arrest a single person under this law?
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Sir, you are now changing the- No, that is what I said. That is what I said.
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Again, I'll pull the record. Did the Biden DOJ arrest even one?
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Again- The answer is no.
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My point to you is the accusation that the Democrats on this committee do not care about the safety of
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federal judges. I did not interrupt you, sir. I would appreciate if you let me finish.
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I am sick and tired of hearing the kind of heated partisan rhetoric, which is one of the reasons why we
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have such divisions in this country. The attacks we see from the President of the United States of
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America trolling and dragging judges through is what we should be talking about that puts people in
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danger. I am simply taking issue with the claim that you made at the top that people on the Democratic
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side of the aisle do not care about the safety and the security of judges and said nothing. You said we
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were silent after people's houses were protested. That is a patent lie, sir. We were not silent.
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We took action. We joined in a bipartisan way to protect those judges as was done in a bipartisan way
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to protect a New Jersey judge after their horrific attack at their home. So I see you now trying to
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shift the debate to whether we talk to an attorney general. I am simply taking issue with this
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accusation that somehow we Democrats are so bad because we don't call out threats to our
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judicial colleagues. And that is wrong. You could change the argument now that you want,
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but what you said was patently not true and was in fact a patent lie.
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So I do enjoy the fact that my colleague from New Jersey raises his voice and says it's a patent lie
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and says he's doing so in defense of lowering the rhetoric. There is some irony to doing those two together.
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I'll point out that in the entire course of those remarks, Senator Booker did not dispute the central
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point I made, which is the Biden Justice Department arrested zero people, prosecuted zero people
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for violating the criminal law. And every Democrat senator on this committee was silent about it.
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And this was an ongoing pattern for months. And I would note also that the senator from New Jersey
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clutched his pearls about language, threatening judges. And yet I do not recall a single Democrat
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senator of this committee saying a word when Chuck Schumer went to the steps of the Supreme Court and
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threatened the safety of the Supreme Court justices by name, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. And he said,
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you have unleashed the whirlwind and you will pay the price. And not a single Democrat senator had a
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word to say about this. And so their outrage is selective. And I will give my colleague from New Jersey
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a chance to just answer a simple yes, no question. Should the Biden Justice Department have enforced
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the criminal law against protesting at a justice's home? Yes or no?
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So the rank hypocrisy of Chuck Schumer apologizing the next day, and you holding that standard for
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him and not for your president, who you actually rightfully described when you were running against
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him in a primary. I would love to run those tapes of how you perfectly talked about the danger of our
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president and his rhetoric. But now you are failing, in fact, blind to the very things you're accusing
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Chuck Schumer of. I don't think Donald Trump would know an apology if it hit him in the head. Never
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said apologizing. So again, you are very, very, sir, very, very deep into the waters of hypocrisy in your
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criticisms of Chuck Schumer.
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So let the record reflect that Spartacus did not answer the question and did not tell us whether the
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criminal law should be enforced because he knows the answer is yes. And he knows that the Biden
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Department of Justice was being wildly political and partisan in refusing to enforce the law because
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they disagreed with the Supreme Court justice's rulings. I have also, in addition to Senator Durbin,
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who's given his opening statement, I have a written opening statement from Chairman Grassley,
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without objection, that written statement is entered into the record.
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And I will now briefly introduce our distinguished witnesses. We have three.
Recommended
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