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'There Isn't A Worse Possible Time': Glenn Ivey Warns Pam Bondi Against FBI Staff Cuts Following Iran Strike
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6/24/2025
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing, Rep. Glenn Ivey (D-MD) asked Attorney General Pam Bondi about cuts included in President Trump's proposed DOJ budget for FY 2026.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to follow up on what Congressman Gonzalez raised with you
00:05
with respect to the new environment that we're in now with the essentially a war with Iran.
00:13
A few weeks ago, your FBI director sat in the same chair and said that he thought in the budget
00:21
that's been proposed, they're about $11.2 billion short. He wanted an additional 1100
00:29
positions that were lost to attrition and 1300 he wanted to have filled. That's before the scenario
00:37
with Iran. Now, I know you submitted the budget already and you want to stick with it, but please
00:43
take another look. This is a new environment. I think the points that the Congressman raised are
00:47
very valid with respect to the issue of sleeper cells and threats domestically here. Taking FBI
00:54
agents off the street now is a bad, there isn't a worse possible time you could do it. So please
01:01
reconsider that and move in a different direction on that because we need more of them on the street,
01:07
not fewer. Ms. DeLauro was raising issues with respect to your budget, the IOI cuts and the 86 agents
01:15
that are going to be cut too. And the concern I have on that front, I know you're saying we need,
01:20
they want to be on the street, but there are ATF agents that do things that aren't on the street.
01:24
So like, for example, the Nibbin work where they match the cartridges to the guns
01:31
is critical. And I'm very concerned that some of the cuts you're going to make are going to impact
01:37
that. And the Nibbin piece is critical for state and local law enforcement. It's like you used to be
01:42
because a lot of them don't have the resources to track it down. And the information that they can get,
01:48
you can turn it around in 48 hours. So the man who attempted to assassinate now President Trump,
01:54
the connection that was made was through this apparatus, this approach, the same thing with the
02:00
Minnesota assassin. So that's an area where we can't afford to have those kind of cuts, I don't think
02:05
at this time. And the performance of fewer regulatory inspections. You know, I had gun dealers in my
02:13
district who needed those inspections to take place. And important findings have been made,
02:20
certainly with respect to track, tracking crime guns, and cracking down down on gun dealers who
02:25
are working illicitly. I'm not saying they all do. I mean, many of them operate in the right way.
02:32
But the only way to track it down this through inspections, that have to be aggressive. And by the
02:38
way, even under the current regime, or the previous regime, I think some of them didn't get inspections
02:43
for maybe every 10 years or so. So it wasn't like it's, it's a constant harassment piece. But I've got
02:50
some folks here in the corner of the hearing room, who are from my district, Moms Demand Action, DMV
02:56
Mothers Like Me, Women's Missionary Society. I met with them a few weeks ago. And the concern was the issue
03:03
of gun violence on our streets, and the desire to make sure that the federal presence continues to
03:09
push hard to make sure we close those cases. You're reducing resources, you're taking eight, you're
03:14
reducing the number of agents, as Mr. Patel said, that's moving in the opposite direction. What response
03:21
would you give to them with respect to the steps that you're taking to make sure not only that we stay
03:27
safe, but we get even safer and do even more to get violent offenders off the street and get the
03:33
guns off the street before the violent offenders get them? So first, Congressman Ivey, you're a former
03:39
prosecutor, and I'm smiling because I could see that in some of your questions. Thank you for those
03:44
questions. I'm going to try to answer them all in order of how you ask them. You ask about the FBI,
03:50
our budget, and Director Patel clarified that in front of the Senate, I think, and our budget includes
03:57
$10.1 billion, 12,926 agents for the FBI. I think clarification would be gentle. It was a complete
04:05
flip-flop on what he said when he was here. And he was asked three times by Ms. DeLauro just to make
04:12
sure that he was right about what he had said when he was testifying. They prioritized realignment of
04:17
personnel to the field to carry out national security, which you just talked about, intelligence,
04:22
criminal law enforcement, and criminal justice missions. Can I do this? Can I just keep, I only
04:28
have 34 seconds to answer you, and I really want to answer. You're asking three questions, and you
04:33
haven't let me answer one. I'd love to get your answers in writing. Quick questions. When you were
04:39
the Attorney General in Florida, you offered, you offered after the Parkland shooting,
04:45
I believe this is my time, under the rules, and I had... Can we stop the clock?
04:56
Stop the clock at a different... Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, what I just said was, if you could submit
05:09
your answers in writing, that would be great. I don't think I've made any kind of statement that's
05:14
been accusatory with respect to her or her professional reputation. There's been no attack
05:20
on her. These were just questions that were asked. I'm seeking the answers in writing,
05:25
which would be great, but I have a couple others that I'd like to ask to, and we'll do them on...
05:31
No, it hasn't. You cut me off when there were 30 seconds left. Yeah, so...
05:38
Well, that's true, too. A couple of you all went over like a minute and a half.
05:44
I've been talking over almost two minutes.
05:48
I just would like my 30 seconds back, and then if she can submit answers in writing,
05:53
that'll be fine. But, you know, but I want to get these questions in while she's here.
05:59
Go ahead. No, no, no.
06:02
I want to ask the questions, and she can submit the answers. This is my five minutes. I get to do it,
06:08
the way I want to do it, under the committee rules and under the House rules. These are my five minutes.
06:14
And as I said, I have not been disrespectful to this witness. I have not.
06:27
When you were the Attorney General in Florida, after the Parkland shooting,
06:32
my understanding is you moved to ban gun sales to people under 21. Is that a position that you would
06:39
take now as the Attorney General? I have a bill, H.R. 2368, which does something like that. I would
06:46
be interested in if you'd be willing to co-sponsor or support that bill. You also moved to enact red
06:52
red flag laws allowing a judge temporarily to confiscate weapons when he or she viewed that the
06:59
person was at risk of hurting himself or someone else. Is that a position you would continue to
07:06
support now? And the last one is ghost guns. Ghost guns, I don't think you took a position on it back
07:12
when you were the AG in Florida. But we've had two bills come through here in the Congress,
07:19
all Democratic co-sponsors. I think there's no argument that ghost guns have any, you know,
07:25
appropriate use on the street. They only help criminals avoid prosecution.
07:29
Would you support a legislative ban on ghost guns? And with that, I yield back.
07:34
I yield back. Thank you, Chairman Rogers.
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