00:00I've just had one question to you, Sarah. Did Michael Gove ever change any of his policy because of anything you said to him?
00:06We had a lot of arguments about legalisation of drugs, which I think I might have kind of shifted him on a little bit.
00:15In which way?
00:16Well, I take a very sort of liberal view, which I know that my colleague Peter Hitchens, with whom I do a podcast, doesn't agree with, but I'm slightly more pragmatic.
00:26No, he did listen to me on things, definitely.
