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'Do You Find A Difference Between An Immigrant And An Illegal Immigrant?': Burchett Grills Walz
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6/13/2025
At today's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) grilled Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN).
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Governor Walts, you said that as long as you are governor,
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immigrants will be welcome in Minnesota. Do you find a difference between an immigrant and an
00:10
illegal immigrant? A difference? Their status? Is there a difference? Legal status or otherwise?
00:22
Well, the legal status is different, but in Minnesota we have a long tradition of welcoming.
00:26
Okay. ICE in St. Paul arrested a criminal illegal alien who had been convicted for possession of
00:33
child pornography on a work computer. Do you still stand by your statement that ICE agents are the
00:40
modern-day Gestapo? ICE agents need to do a job, but they need to do it within the realm of due process
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and the law. Wearing masks, no notice of who they are, no notice of the vans, and picking people up
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off the streets without that due process. I stand that that is wrong in a road towards
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authoritarianism. I certainly stand by that.
01:01
You know, I have one rule, and I have a couple rules in my office, but one of them is never compare
01:06
anything dealing with the Holocaust except for the Holocaust. I think that it desensitizes people
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about what really went on in Nazi Germany by making any comparisons there. Does Minnesota receive
01:20
federal tax dollars for any programs that assist illegal immigrants?
01:27
Minnesota's federal tax dollars are appropriated by you in Congress, and then we use state dollars
01:34
under our laws.
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During the Biden administration, nearly $1.5 billion was sent to sanctuary states to pay for their
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illegal immigration policies, housing, and health care. Governor Hochul, are crimes committed
01:49
by illegal aliens preventable, in your opinion?
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Our law enforcement is highly trained in how to identify prospective perpetrators, but certainly
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we try to prevent crimes, and we also work to resolve them and make sure that if there's
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a crime committed that people find their time in court and are incarcerated. That's how it's
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always worked.
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By definition, our illegal aliens are unlawfully present in the United States. They should not be
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here in the first place to commit crimes. Don't you agree with that?
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It depends on the circumstances of coming over. I mean, there's civil violations. There's also
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criminals, so it's the federal government's determination on the status of an individual.
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If they're prosecuted...
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But I mean, if they're not here, the crime's not going to be committed.
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I think if there was not...
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If they're not going to be here, ma'am, the crime is not going to be committed.
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If there was no one in our country who crimes would be committed, I suppose you could say the
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same thing.
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A young man in my district whose family is very close to me lost their son to an illegal alien,
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and I can guarantee you if that illegal alien, if we'd followed the laws of the land,
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and there'd been some enforcement, that that young man would be here today. Well, let me ask
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you this. Why did your state
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issue that you are... say that you are welcome with open arms in reference to illegal aliens?
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That was a direct quote attributed to you, ma'am.
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It's a long... it's a 400-year history we have in the state of New York of wealth-giving all.
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I don't know why we would change that now.
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Okay. Governor Pritzker, you mentioned in your opening statement that criminals have no place
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in our country, but Cook County released numerous criminal migrants last year, including one
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that was charged with raping a minor. Why would you release a criminal rapist back into your
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community?
03:38
Thank you, Congressman. First of all, we don't need to release somebody if ICE or another law
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enforcement authority shows up with a judicial warrant, and that's just the fact. And if somebody
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gets released, it's usually because they've had due process and determined not to be eligible
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to be held. That's...
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Okay. But do you know what happened after that individual was released?
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I don't, but again, a judicial warrant, if appropriate...
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I'll tell you, 17 days later, he was charged with a homicide. And in Cook County, he also released
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a migrant charged with domestic violence in August of 2024. Do you know what this individual
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was charged with one month later?
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No, sir. I'm not sure what...
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Aggravated criminal sexual assault and abuse of minor.
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And as governor, you have done... Have you done anything to ensure local and county governments
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aren't releasing illegal immigrants charged with sexual or violent crimes?
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As a matter of fact, we... First of all, we chase down criminals every single day. We put
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them in jail. We try them, put them through due process. They get convicted. They get put
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into our correction system. We do that every single day. You're implying that we're not...
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We are. In fact, our law enforcement are some of the best in the country. They do their job.
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Well, if these laws were enforced, then I would assume these people wouldn't be back out
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on the streets so freely. How many programs does Illinois have that explicitly supports illegal immigrants?
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Sir, we've created programs to deal with not illegal... I mean, we have one program that's
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related to undocumented people who are the most vulnerable.
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I'm out of time, but the answer is at least four.
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For Health Benefits for Immigrants, HBIS, Health Benefits for Immigrants, Adults, HBI, Retention
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of Illinois Students, and Equity, RISE is the acronym for that act, and the Illinois Dream Fund.
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And I'm sorry I'm out of time, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
05:40
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to finish the title of the article that I was trying to read into unanimous consent.
05:46
Mr. Chairman. Okay.
05:53
Wait.
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Are you it?
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Is that correct?
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Remember?
06:00
Is that correct.
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I'm sure you have it in your mind.
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I have no time.
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I was speaking to you even a minute.
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Remember?
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I don't even opinions about it.
06:09
Madam, isn't it wrong at all.
06:10
No, we don't act that way.
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I feel valuable at all.
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If nothing is a mistake, can get a affair.
06:13
And now, let's find a weakness at all,
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we should get annoyed at all that line
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and let's look at the original line.
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