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Paul Gosar Confronts Hochul, Walz, And Pritzker At Hearing On Sanctuary State Policies
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6/13/2025
At today's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) questioned sanctuary state governors.
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Arizona. Governors, good afternoon. Would you agree that good process builds good
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policy, builds good politics? Pretty normal, right? Would you agree, Governor
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Pritzker? Yes, sir. How about you, Governor? I would agree. I would agree with that. Good.
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Now, would you support the disclosure of federal fundings to nonprofits,
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that's either directly or indirectly? Governor Pritzker? Federal funding of nonprofits just
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generally, there is actually nonprofits do report there. Well, they do kind of, because we don't
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get that. It's all blocked out, okay? But you can't make good decisions if you don't have that. Would
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you agree? All of it is available, as I understand, publicly, yes. Now I'm going to quote U.S. Supreme
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Court Associate Justice Luis Brandeis. He said, in a government of laws, existence of the government
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will be imperiled if it fails to uphold, observe, and uphold the law scrupulously. Our government is
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that, is potent, the omnipresent teacher, for good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its
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example. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it invites contempt for the law, it invites every man
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to become a law unto himself. It invites anarchy. So do you agree with, Governor Pritzker, do you agree
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with Luis Brandeis on this quote? How about you, Dr. Walton? I do. It's what the President Trump
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has done, though. He is the one who has broken the law and the United States government.
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Governor Hochul. We follow all the laws, federal and state. Okay. So,
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so why would I ask you about non-profits financing and this quote from Luis Brandeis? What if I were
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to present you evidence that U.S. citizens and even foreign citizens on foreign soil were coaching
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illegal aliens how to bypass U.S. immigration law? Hmm. Now let me remind you, as soon as an alien crosses
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the border illegally, they become criminals under the federal law. Governors or sanctuary
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policies blatantly ignore the supremacy clause, as Mr. Palmer expressed, of the U.S. Constitution,
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and it circumvents federal immigration laws to harbor criminals. As of July 2024, under the Biden-Harris
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administration, there were over 660,000 illegal aliens with criminal histories in the United States.
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But I'm talking about everyone, not just criminals, once you violate the law by entering our country
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illegally. Let me be clear. You're aiding and abetting criminal illegal aliens, which is a felony
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under Title 8, U.S. Code 1324, punishable up to 20 years in prison, or life in prison, or even the
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death penalty, seems kind of weird, but if this aiding and abetting results in someone's death,
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which this committee and all Americans know has happened, wouldn't you want to even err on the
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aspect of caution? I would. I really would. Now, Governor Hochul, do you consider yourself,
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do you like nature, and do you consider yourself a conservationist? I do. I am one of those.
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I'm particularly fond of New York State's great state parks. Of course, I love nature.
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Good. So why would you allow illegal aliens to destroy a National Park Service land at Floyd
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Bennett Field? Yes, I was there. I got to see it all. But, I mean, even putting people
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in that process.
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I would hardly call it a park. It was a place that people used to train for military exercises.
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But, you know what? Somebody found it as a park, right? Did they not? They're considered
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a national park. It's a park. Okay.
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Technically, it's not in the Department of Interior.
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Okay. Governor Walz, do you know the estimated size of a milligram, of two milligrams?
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I think generally, yeah.
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You can barely see. It's the tip of a pencil, sharpened pencil at that. And that's a lethal
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dose of fentanyl, which your running mate, Harris, open border policies welcomed to the
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United States. Similarly, your sanctuary policies are playing games with American lives. Do the
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millions of lives lost to fentanyl constitute an all-out assault on our broken borders? They do.
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Yes or no, do you support tribal communities, Governor Walz?
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Do I support tribal communities?
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Yeah.
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Under PL 280 or?
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Oh, do you support tribal?
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Yeah, I certainly do.
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I do.
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Okay.
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What about the transnational criminal cartels trafficking drugs and people across our tribal
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lands?
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Next, this is epidemic. Epidemic. So I'm going to finish up by this. Governors, this is my
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promise to you. I will work tirelessly with President Trump to secure the border, build
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the wall, stop the flow of fatal fentanyl into our nation, and I will see that you are held
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accountable for the violations of our crimes against the people of the United States. Our
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immigration system is not broken. We just needed somebody like Donald Trump to uphold
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the rules of law. I pray for the safety of our immigration, ICE officers, and all the
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officers, and I yield back.
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Gentleman yields back. Ms. Crockett has a unanimous consent request.
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Yes, Mr. Chair. I'd like to submit a unanimous consent request for, this is from the Alabama
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Reflector. It says, study says undocumented immigrants paid almost $100 billion in taxes.
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Without objection to order.
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And my second one is from Reuters. White supremacists behind over 80% of extremism-related U.S.
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murders in 2022.
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Without objection to order. Now recognize Mr. Lynch.
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