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The Jeremy Kyle Show - 7th June 2018
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00:10On today's show...
00:12You and Amanda are no longer together. There she is.
00:15Look, I'll stay on it. Don't know what's in it.
00:19You are the ultimate ladies' man, aren't you?
00:21Listen, I don't think I'm a ladies' man.
00:23Sweetheart.
00:23I've got a gift for the bath. I've got a gift for the bath.
00:27Who's that?
00:28That's me.
00:30Me flexing.
00:31What's wrong with that? What is wrong with that? What is wrong with that, though?
00:35How many women have you slept with?
00:36More than you.
00:39Yeah, look at you, then.
00:41He just said a like quote, he could have any woman in the world he likes.
00:45Oh, no. My dog won't go with you.
00:52Jamie, you don't know nothing, so I'd shut up. You only know or you'll get to...
00:56If Taylor's not mine, then I'm walking away.
01:00Why would I want to help you?
01:01Well, go find your own wife, then run away, haven't they?
01:03Right, the old man's all right.
01:10Sorry, sorry.
01:11Who's the gardener?
01:12Well, thanks, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:37Now, back on the show today is one of the, um, well, how can I say, most interesting guests
01:41I've ever had over the last 12 years. Take a look at this, my friends.
01:44You got pregnant quite quickly, didn't you?
01:48Yeah.
01:48Tell them what he insisted that you do.
01:50Um, he made me get in a bathroom at first one.
01:55Don't be stupid, yeah?
01:56At the end of the day, who are you telling to show up, you big no...
02:00What are you staring at?
02:04What?
02:04What?
02:05Who's, who's, who's staring at what, him?
02:07Muppet.
02:07I'll take your girl from you.
02:11I'm here for a DNA test, yeah?
02:12Yeah, so why don't you think the kid is yours if you're seeing it every day?
02:16Because I'm seeing it every day.
02:18That's what she said.
02:18I've got 80% of my, yeah, says I love that boy.
02:22That boy's mine.
02:23So what, what, where's the 20...
02:24Friends and family and other people, yeah?
02:26Why are you so angry?
02:27You need to calm down.
02:29What did you say?
02:30I said, come and run after me, because that's what you paid to do.
02:34Come on, get your little legs running.
02:36Come on, run as fast as you can.
02:38You can't catch me, I'm a gingerbread man.
02:40Come on, come on.
02:43I feel very sorry for this child, because Mark is his biological father.
02:49I don't know why, but he's back on the show to take a lie detector test today.
02:53And Mark's back on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
02:56I don't understand why you're back, to be honest, because last time we proved that you're
03:15the kid's father.
03:16Fuck!
03:18Hey, hey, hey, hey!
03:26Mark, you can stop me big toe.
03:29Right, anyway, Mark, welcome back to the show.
03:31Now, you and Amanda are no longer together.
03:34There she is, she didn't say an awful lot.
03:36But it's just...
03:36Look at her, stay on it.
03:38Don't know what's in it.
03:40You're still living with her.
03:42Yeah.
03:42But you're not with her.
03:43She don't...
03:44But you're on the Kyle show again to do a lie detector to prove that you didn't cheat on her
03:48during the relationship.
03:49Why?
03:50Why, yeah, because at the end of the day, yeah, other people are telling me this, other
03:54people are saying that I've done this.
03:56What does it matter if you're not with her?
03:58Eh?
03:58What does it matter if you're not with her?
03:59Why?
04:00Because it's making me look like a f***ing idiot.
04:02Why is that making you look like that?
04:07You look like that anyway.
04:08Yeah.
04:08Listen, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:17Listen, yeah, I might look like a f***ing idiot, yeah?
04:20It's better than I've been a f***ing idiot with a big head like yours.
04:25Yeah, listen, listen.
04:26You are...
04:27I did...
04:27I actually read this this morning.
04:29What did you say?
04:30I look like a tangerine on a cocktail stick.
04:32That's pretty.
04:32But here's the thing.
04:33You said that actually what you wanted to do today was teach me because you are the ultimate
04:39ladies' man, aren't you?
04:40Listen, I don't think I'm a ladies' man, yeah.
04:42Sweetheart.
04:42But listen, I've got a gift to the guard.
04:44I've got a gift to the guard.
04:46Who's that?
04:47That's me.
04:48You told my team, right, I know how to treat a girl, I take them to Mackie D's,
04:57I share a bag of weed, and I give them ten quid if they need it, and within an hour,
05:03they'll be having sex with me.
05:05No, that wasn't my exact words.
05:07Yeah, I said...
05:08So, I...
05:08Me flexing.
05:11What's wrong with that?
05:12What is wrong with that?
05:13What is wrong with that, though?
05:14Anybody?
05:15Any girl in here?
05:16What is wrong with that?
05:16What is wrong with it?
05:17What have you got, what have you got that the rest of us haven't?
05:22Tell us, you know, man to man, what have you got, apart from, you said last time, a huge,
05:26huge member?
05:29That's all I need.
05:31Satisfies women, doesn't it?
05:32Does it?
05:32How many women have you slept with?
05:34More than you.
05:36How many of those have been in your head, and how many of those have been in the bed?
05:40All my women, all my women I've had met are real.
05:43Are they?
05:44Yeah.
05:44What makes you different?
05:45Help us out.
05:45Tell me.
05:46What should I do?
05:47Because you told my team I could take any woman I wanted.
05:50Well, that H is there, dude.
05:52That needs to go.
05:53Get a little short back and sides and that, yeah?
05:56Stop wearing your blue suits all the time.
05:58You told everybody all morning, I am it, I am the big man.
06:03Yeah, so what?
06:03So if you're the big man, and you're not with her, but you're that sad you have to live
06:08in her house and beggar for oral sex every five minutes.
06:11After beggar, mate.
06:13After beggar.
06:14She told you on her last show, she liked my...
06:17Don't tell me...
06:20Don't tell me...
06:21Don't tell me...
06:22Don't tell me...
06:23Don't tell me...
06:24Don't tell me...
06:24Don't tell me...
06:25Why would she want to be in your house and do...
06:30Why don't you just go and go on with your life if you're not with her?
06:33Yeah, listen.
06:34No.
06:35No, no, no, no, no.
06:36Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
06:38Leave it, leave it, leave it.
06:39Leave it, leave it.
06:41Listen, yeah, at the end of the day, yeah, right.
06:43Stop saying at the end of the day, it's the morning, what?
06:46Yeah, ask her.
06:49Ask her why I can't move on with my life.
06:51Ask her.
06:52The girl, the girl's, the girl is possessive.
06:55Yeah, the girl is possessive.
06:56Then why do you keep accepting oral sex and move out and then she won't be possessive?
07:00Yo, because I can get it when I want, how I want, where I want.
07:04Somehow, why can you get it where you want, how you want from her?
07:08Is it, why, why, why?
07:10Brilliant that I'm actually doing this for a living.
07:12I don't know why he's so angry.
07:14Why?
07:15So why have you done a lie detector?
07:17Why don't you just say, you're a possessive woman, I don't want to be with you,
07:21I can get any woman I want, I'm moving out of your house and I'm moving on.
07:25Why don't you say that?
07:26I've tried, Daniel.
07:28Just leave.
07:29I've tried.
07:30Is it because of the kids?
07:33Is it because of the kids?
07:34Listen.
07:35Is that why you say?
07:36Is that why you stay?
07:38Yeah, it is.
07:38Then you can be just as good a dad.
07:40You don't have to be with her.
07:42You can move out, get your own life and be a dad.
07:44Don't tell the door.
07:46Well, why don't you tell yourself Amanda's back on the Jeremy Kyle show?
07:57I'm all right.
07:58I want you out if you fail online.
08:00Why don't you literally walk out on the Jeremy Kyle show after 13 years and go,
08:05I'm not going to give you oral sex anymore, move out.
08:08We're 13 years away in the same suit.
08:10Why have you let him stay in your house?
08:12Because he won't let me have any other man in my house.
08:15He won't let him see the kid unless he stays in your house and that you're gagging for him.
08:30Why do you do that to him?
08:31Hello?
08:32Yeah, come on.
08:33Why do you do it?
08:34Why do you do it?
08:35Why do you do it?
08:36She told my team I never...
08:37Why do you love me?
08:38You've besotted over me.
08:39She said, and I quote, he's got quite nice manners and he says please and thank you.
08:43That's why I do it.
08:44Exactly.
08:45My dad taught me, yeah, right, you get everywhere in life when you say please and thank you.
08:48When he fell with you, you've got any manners whatsoever, have you?
08:49Alright, yeah.
08:50So if he says please can you give me oral sex, thank you very much, you give it to him.
08:52Yeah, I get it.
08:53I get it.
08:54I get it.
08:55I get it.
08:56I get it.
08:57I get it.
08:58I get it.
08:59I get it.
09:00I get it.
09:01I get it.
09:02I get it.
09:03I get it.
09:04I get it.
09:05I get it.
09:06I get it.
09:07I get it.
09:08I get it.
09:09I get it.
09:10I get it.
09:11I get it.
09:12I get it.
09:13I get it.
09:14Not all the time, no.
09:15Sometimes.
09:16But why, actually, if you don't want to be with him?
09:17Why?
09:18Don't you do it again?
09:19You're looking at me like I'm from Mars.
09:20Why can't you go?
09:21You're the father of my kid.
09:23I don't want to be with you.
09:24Do one.
09:25Yeah.
09:26Right.
09:27You don't want to go with me.
09:28Get out of me off.
09:29You can go off.
09:30You want to be with.
09:31How many times do you know he cheated on you?
09:33How long were you with her together?
09:34How long were you together?
09:35Six months.
09:36Six months.
09:37How long do you know, how many times do you know he cheated?
09:39Well, he said twice.
09:40And why did you, so that was alright with you, was it at that point?
09:43No, because we were, we were.
09:44You're still in love with him, aren't you?
09:46A bit, yeah.
09:47Why?
09:48Because I've got a kid to him.
09:49What is it?
09:50What?
09:51Because I've got a kid to him.
09:52No, it's because I've got a big .
09:53No, it isn't.
09:54We did this last time.
09:55I think you are a big .
09:57You are a big .
09:58No, you are.
09:59Yeah, you are.
10:00Only women in this audience would fall for, and I quote, a Big Mac, a bag of weed, and
10:07a quickie round the back of the car.
10:08Hey, hey.
10:09Jack, you shoot your face off.
10:11What?
10:12Men like you.
10:13Five minutes for your girlfriend, they should be in my bedroom.
10:16How can I not move on, Jeremy?
10:19Have you told him if he doesn't?
10:20Hold on.
10:21No, no, no, no.
10:22What's going on?
10:23I'm not chasing you.
10:28Are there three people in your relationship?
10:30Are you in a love triangle or want to expose a love rat?
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10:51The first charge.
11:01What do you want me to do?
11:02Sit here and have a go at you.
11:03Go look in the mirror, pal.
11:04Listen, I look in the mirror every day and I like what I see.
11:07Well, you must be the only person.
11:10Have you heard of a saying, yeah?
11:12Never judge your book by its cover.
11:14Read the book first and judge at your clown.
11:16So don't judge me from how I look.
11:18That was you.
11:19It ain't all about you.
11:20I don't know about you, this shit. It's about me getting the truth.
11:26We're boo on .
11:29Yeah, look at you there.
11:30Which one?
11:31Which one?
11:32There with the glasses on.
11:33Which one?
11:34You give me nips, love.
11:39Hey, so what?
11:40Tram.
11:47How can I be a Tram?
11:50Now, listen.
11:51I just want to...
11:52I just want to...
11:55Yeah, what? Look at me.
11:57You are violent, disgusting.
11:59He just said in my quote,
12:01he could have any woman in the world he likes.
12:03Oh, mate, no.
12:04My dog won't go with you.
12:06Are there any women in this audience would fall for, and I quote, a Big Mac, a bag of weed, and a quickie round the back of the cake.
12:21Shush your face.
12:22Hey, hey.
12:23You shoot your face, I'll squash you.
12:24I don't need to say anything because everybody knows exactly what you are.
12:26Yeah.
12:27Go on, go on.
12:28What am I?
12:29What am I?
12:30What am I?
12:31I think you're vile.
12:32Treat her the way you think men like you deserve to have kids.
12:34Yeah, five minutes with your girlfriend there, she'll be in my bed, pal.
12:35Go on, go on.
12:36What am I?
12:37What am I?
12:38What am I?
12:39I think you're vile.
12:40Treat her the way you think men like you deserve to have kids.
12:42Yeah, five minutes with your girlfriend there, she'll be in my bed, pal.
12:47Go and get her.
12:48Go and get her.
12:49And we'll see.
12:50How long were you with her?
12:53Him?
12:54Six months.
12:55I was wondering what your child, I mean, last time I tried to make him realise that actually
13:00being a father was more important, but here I am today thinking, does your child have
13:04to put up with this?
13:05Is that really, really good?
13:06No.
13:07Because I'm not like this.
13:08I'm not even talking to you.
13:09I'm not always like this.
13:10Really?
13:11I'm not like this at all.
13:12Well, why are you acting like this now?
13:13Why?
13:14Because you're trying to show me up in front of Bernard.
13:16You did a really good job yourself, pal.
13:18She got her mouth.
13:20She got her mouth.
13:21Oh my God.
13:22Anyway, right, listen, this isn't going to make any difference to you at all because
13:24you're obviously in love with something that you shouldn't be.
13:27At the start of the test, Mark admitted to sleeping with one woman on multiple occasions
13:30whilst in a relationship with Amanda.
13:31Did you know that?
13:32He also admitted to passionately kissing another woman.
13:35However, he claims no sexual contact or intercourse took place.
13:38So you slept with somebody in the six months you were with her on many occasions.
13:41He knew.
13:42So why were you with her if you were sleeping with someone else?
13:44I was going through a bad time.
13:46No, no, no, no.
13:48Listen, are you mad?
13:49You know if you...
13:50Listen to me.
13:51Do you know if you lot knew what was going through my head and what happened to me,
13:55then obviously you lot might understand.
13:57Have you lot...
13:58Have any of you lot lost any...
14:00that you love?
14:01Yeah.
14:02Yeah, well, exactly.
14:03There you go.
14:04And do you know what?
14:05Yeah, I lost my mother 11 weeks ago and I don't freak women the way you do.
14:09So you're talking rubbish.
14:10So you're talking rubbish.
14:11Yeah.
14:12Yeah.
14:13It might be called to zone the car short but let me have a shit.
14:16Let me have a shit.
14:17Let me have my shit.
14:18Let me have my shit.
14:19So you lose somebody that matters and it means you can treat women like that.
14:22You're talking rubbish, okay?
14:23I didn't mean to treat her.
14:24I didn't mean to cheat on her.
14:25I never meant to cheat on her.
14:26I never meant to cheat on her.
14:28Who'd you lose?
14:29Who'd I lose?
14:30Yeah.
14:31Someone very close to me.
14:32Well, would that person have been proud the way you talked to the mother of your child?
14:35Yeah?
14:36Listen, she's not here.
14:37She's not here.
14:38Who was it?
14:39She's not here.
14:40Who was it?
14:41It's my business, not yours.
14:42I lost my mother 11 weeks ago.
14:43Yeah, I lost my mother 8 years ago.
14:44Well, she'd have been in...
14:45And it's still wrong.
14:46Yeah!
14:47Don't talk to me about my mother.
14:50Are you...
14:51No, not at all.
14:54I just want you to know this.
14:55In the six months you were with him,
14:57do you know your relationship with a...
14:58... submitted to?
14:59Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
15:00This was he had sex with somebody and kissed somebody else.
15:02He said no, because he was lying.
15:04I was lying.
15:05Hold on, don't go, love, because I'm not following you.
15:07During your relationship with Amanda, apart from what you mean,
15:09did you have sexual contact with anybody else?
15:11He said no, because he was lying.
15:12And during your relationship with Amanda, apart from what you mean,
15:14did you have sexual intercourse?
15:16Wise up, Amanda.
15:17He broke and lied on every single question.
15:19Wow!
15:24You can...
15:25He is the father of your kid and he can be a good dad.
15:28But why have you got him in your house?
15:30Because he's got nowhere to live.
15:32Then that's his business, not yours!
15:34Yeah, I know.
15:35But she's a kind, caring person unlike you.
15:39Why'd you treat her like dirt then?
15:40I don't.
15:41You got really angry.
15:42The most angry you've got...
15:43Hear me out for one second, right?
15:44The most angry you've got is...
15:47I was trying to tell you something.
15:49And...
15:50And you...
15:51You don't like it.
15:52I lost my mother 11 weeks ago.
15:53My mother would turn in her grave if she thought...
15:56Hear me out.
15:57No disrespect to your nana.
15:58I was making a point.
15:59If I talked to or about a woman like that.
16:02Because that's what she taught me.
16:04I asked you a perfectly simple question and then you jump up and you start.
16:06Yeah, because it's too rough.
16:07Your nana that you respected.
16:08It's too rough.
16:09Your nana, who was obviously a great person that you respected.
16:11Answer me this.
16:12What would she think of the way you talk to this girl?
16:14Serious question to you.
16:15You and me.
16:16Answer that.
16:17What would she say to you, Mark?
16:18Obviously she won't like it, Jeremy.
16:20Then why don't you use that as a yardstick to be a better man for your son and you two
16:25accept it's over and live separately and get on with your life for your kids.
16:30I've accepted it.
16:31I've moved on.
16:32She's the one that can't accept it, Jeremy.
16:34Then don't stay there, then.
16:37Don't stay there, then.
16:39She's the one that can't accept it.
16:40You and I both know it's the easy option for you to stay there because you know that she
16:43still loves you a little bit.
16:44You know that you get a bed, the occasional whatever food you get to see your son.
16:48I see from the sofa, mate.
16:49I don't go nowhere near her bed.
16:50I don't know who's been in her bed after me.
16:52You know what I mean?
16:53Yeah.
16:54Do you want your son to grow up respecting you or do you want your son to grow up and
16:58being embarrassed?
16:59Listen, stop talking about my son right now.
17:01That's what it's about.
17:03My boy is my boy.
17:04Good.
17:05He's my boy.
17:06Then why'd you stay with his mother when you don't love her?
17:08What gives you the right to talk about him?
17:11None.
17:12I don't want your son in 15 years to be on a show like this saying,
17:16my dad's a disgrace and didn't treat my mother well.
17:19That's why.
17:20Well, as long as I treat him right, don't get out of her.
17:23He's a mother.
17:24Well, give him a bitch that she is his mother.
17:27Yeah, like she keeps saying, yeah, right, it's either that person or your son.
17:31Well, she shouldn't say that.
17:33Yeah.
17:34Tell him.
17:35Tell him.
17:36Am I lying?
17:37No, you're not lying.
17:39Exactly.
17:40There you go.
17:41So how can I not move on, Jeremy?
17:42Have you told him if he doesn't?
17:43Hold on.
17:44No, no, no.
17:45I'm not chasing you.
17:46You can do one.
17:47Don't chase me then.
17:48Have you told him that if he doesn't live in the house with you, he can't see his son?
17:51No, I haven't said that to him.
17:52Then why do you have him in your house?
17:54Because he's got nowhere to go.
17:56But I've told him if he fails today, he's going.
17:59He's failed every single question.
18:00Yeah, no, I thought I did.
18:02This should be about your kids.
18:03It shouldn't be about you two and whatever you think or whatever he thinks.
18:07He is what he is.
18:08No.
18:09I think most of it show.
18:11No, none of it show, Jeremy.
18:13This is what you see is all the love for my boy.
18:16This is why I'm like I am.
18:18Do you understand then calmly?
18:19Let me explain something to you.
18:20I want to see my boy every single day, Jeremy.
18:23Doesn't work like that, pal.
18:24I've been working as a kitchen porter for a year.
18:26Doesn't work like that, pal.
18:27Yeah, I've got a job.
18:29So what?
18:30I smoke weed.
18:31So what?
18:32I've got no teeth.
18:33So what?
18:34Nobody likes me.
18:35I don't give a shit.
18:36You think or he thinks or he thinks or any of these people.
18:38What do you think?
18:39What do I think?
18:40I'm there for my son.
18:41I'm a good dad.
18:42What does he think?
18:43What does he think?
18:44I don't know.
18:45Ask him.
18:46He's four and four.
18:47He's not going to talk to you.
18:48Oh, yeah, Jeremy Kyle.
18:49I think he's a good bad.
18:50You're doing it again, aren't you?
18:52I'll try one more thing.
18:53Sorry.
18:54Can I explain something to you, right?
18:55Explain what you want.
18:56Well, why don't you just listen a sec?
18:58Listen in.
18:59When you're not with somebody, right, you're not going to get to see your kids the whole
19:04time.
19:05Now, there are many things on this show, right?
19:07Hear me out, that I can just give you an opinion on.
19:10And there are many, well, a few, that I've got direct experience of.
19:14And the next thing, I'm going to tell you how it is, okay?
19:16When you are away from somebody, split up from somebody, get divorced from somebody,
19:21don't live with somebody, you're not going to see your kids the whole time.
19:23What you do is you consistently see your kids and you make that time precious and meaningful,
19:28so that your relationship with that child or those children is solid.
19:33What I'm trying to say to you is, staying with the mother, who you painfully don't want
19:37to be with, but she probably does a little bit, arguing, shouting and screaming, this
19:41is what I'm going to say to you, is not going to help your son and it's not going to help
19:45either of you.
19:46And you are as much to blame in this as he is, because you allow it to happen, because
19:50you hope somehow it'll get better.
19:53Move away from her, be a great dad, which I know you can be to your son.
19:58Try and watch, just try and be a role model.
20:01He will be fine.
20:02Don't ever use the kid as a weapon.
20:04Then there's no BS.
20:05Jeremy, she does, mate.
20:07All the time.
20:08All the time.
20:09Yeah, you do.
20:10You say to me, yeah, to either choose your partner, yeah, or your son.
20:14Is that not it?
20:15I've got text messages on my phone to move it.
20:17Do you agree with me that the only thing that matters to you is your son?
20:20My son is my life.
20:21Stop there.
20:22I will die for my son.
20:23Then the best thing you can do for your son, so that you don't both screw him up when
20:28he grows up, because he sees how much hatred there is, is to move apart and be good parents,
20:34not living together, but being separately good parents to that boy.
20:39That's it.
20:40That's it.
20:41That's it.
20:42That's it.
20:43I'm a good parent.
20:44You can be...
20:45Final word, right?
20:46You can be...
20:48You can be a good dad.
20:49You don't have to be in a toxic relationship with the child's mother.
20:53You go that way.
20:54You go that way.
20:55Give him a round of applause.
20:56Hey, when you get back, you need to watch the lipstick off your ass.
21:00You're doing it again.
21:01You're letting yourself down back after this break.
21:03Don't go anywhere.
21:04Tell me what happened in Tesco's.
21:06I put my hand down the trousers.
21:07I thought she'd film someone in the toilet.
21:10You checked her underwear in Tesco.
21:12Yeah.
21:13So why are you online checking out pictures of other women then?
21:17I'm not, though.
21:18I'm not.
21:19I'm not.
21:20Why I wanted to do that.
21:21It's Seniorwomen.com.
21:22That's why I wanted to do that.
21:23That's why I wanted to do that.
21:24Seniorwomen.com.
21:25Oh.
21:26Oh.
21:27Thank you very much.
21:37Welcome back.
21:38My next guest today, Tony, is here because he cannot trust his girlfriend Kerry, pure
21:41and simple.
21:42So suspicious, you see, I can't believe I'm going to read this, that he's taken to, um,
21:49checking her underwear.
21:54Phillip and Holly having their make-up done.
21:56He's here for the truth.
21:58What's in her pants?
21:59Tony's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
22:02Hello.
22:07All right.
22:12Welcome to the show, Tony, you all right?
22:16Yeah, I'm all right, cheers.
22:17You look like I don't want to be here.
22:19I'd like to be anywhere else but here with you, Mr Kyle.
22:21No, I'm just a bit nervous, that's all.
22:22Oh, you're so mad.
22:23I'm terrified, mate.
22:24I've been in a relationship with Kerry for a year and you're desperate to know if she's
22:28cheated.
22:29Yeah.
22:30Tell me how you met and if you say Facebook, I'm going home.
22:33No, we've known each other for about ten years anyway.
22:35But, um, we just started hanging around with each other and we just got closer and closer
22:38and started falling in love with each other.
22:40Good relationship.
22:41Yeah, yeah.
22:42Now, at this point, you are questioning everything about this woman.
22:46What I'm interested to know is how do you get from, it's great, we've known each other
22:51a long time, I like the woman, I know the woman really well, I want to take it to the
22:55next level to, I actually cannot trust this woman at all.
22:58What happened?
22:59Well, it was, um, a family member said to me that, um, Kerry's told, Kerry's told on
23:05that she slept behind, um, my back with two people.
23:08Why?
23:09I mean, obviously there wouldn't be a Jeremy Karcher if there weren't rumours, but why do
23:13people who are in a perfectly happy and successful relationship believe a total stranger, or anybody,
23:19who's simply stirring?
23:20Do you, when you look at her, knowing what you know, as a friend of ten years and somebody
23:25you've loved, do you think this woman is a cheat?
23:28Yeah, I think.
23:29Why?
23:30Because why would he say it?
23:31And he's given the two names.
23:32The person who said it is not even from our town, and he's given two names of people.
23:36Tell me what happened in Tesco's.
23:38This is brilliant.
23:39I'll just, um...
23:40I go to Tesco's to get shopping, can I just point this out?
23:43Well, I was, um...
23:44You need to speak up, Pat.
23:45It was in Tesco's, and I was a bit paranoid and going through a bad time, and I put my hand
23:50down the trousers, and I thought she'd been with someone in the toilets.
23:53You checked her underwear in Tesco's?
23:58Yeah.
23:59In which aisle?
24:00No, to say she'd come out of the toilets.
24:02I know, I know it's bad.
24:06Now, a lot of people in the audience would be like, let's just, let's do this differently.
24:12Look at me.
24:13How do you think that made that woman feel?
24:17Disgusted.
24:18How do you think that sounds?
24:20Disgusted.
24:21Where is, at this moment, the issue?
24:23If you are that insecure, that concerned, let me tell you something that you need to
24:29know.
24:30You'll never be with anybody.
24:31No.
24:32It's Kerry.
24:34You can't be in a successful relationship.
24:37We've all been in situations where we worry or we think and, you know, people get into relationships
24:43where it's good and then it goes wrong.
24:44But to do that to a woman in a public place, on the basis of somebody who might or might not
24:50have an agenda telling you that she's a cheat, to check her underwear for evidence that she's
24:54cheated, how would that make her feel as a woman?
24:57Disgusted.
24:58If she passes this test, is that going to...
25:00See, I worry about people like you because I don't think that's enough.
25:03No, it will be enough.
25:04Why?
25:05Till what, the next time?
25:06No, no, we can just put it behind us and move on with our lives.
25:09She did the test.
25:10She wanted to do the test.
25:11Yeah.
25:12Let's get her out.
25:13Kerry's on the Jeremy Carr show.
25:18Welcome to the show, Kerry.
25:26Very difficult for you.
25:27Very embarrassing.
25:30Explain to me as a woman how that made you feel.
25:33Serious question.
25:34Tell him.
25:35Degraded, actually.
25:38Humiliated.
25:39I know.
25:40It's bad.
25:41You say that after this person told Tony that you cheated, the accusations go on the
25:45whole time.
25:46Yeah.
25:47What's life like?
25:48Talk to me.
25:49Speak up.
25:50He's just paranoid all the time.
25:51Even when I've been asleep, he's wake up at night and said, there's a lad at the
25:54side of your bed, like I'm going to go with someone.
25:56In the bed?
25:57Yeah.
25:58And he's next to you?
25:59Yeah.
26:00Have you been cheated on before?
26:01Yeah, quite a few times.
26:02Why?
26:03Do you think it's because you're a paranoid pain in the backside?
26:05Probably is, yeah.
26:06So why are you online checking out pictures of other women, then?
26:09I'm not, though.
26:10I'm not.
26:11I'm not.
26:12Talk to me, come on.
26:13That's why I wanted to do...
26:14Seniorwomen.com.
26:15That's why I wanted...
26:16Seniorwomen.com.
26:17No, it is.
26:18Is that old birds?
26:19No, I haven't, no.
26:21That's why I wanted to do a live test for myself.
26:23Seniorwomenandwidows.com.
26:25No, no, no.
26:26That's why I wanted...
26:27Why have you suddenly woken up?
26:28You've got bright red in the face and you're smiling.
26:31Because that's why I wanted to do a test myself, to prove that I haven't, you know what
26:34I mean?
26:35But I couldn't...
26:36Do you think you're just in a rut of paranoia?
26:38I just don't understand.
26:39What have you got?
26:40How many people think this woman's cheated?
26:42Nobody.
26:43And they've known her for three minutes.
26:45What is wrong with you?
26:46I don't know.
26:47Paranoid.
26:48Talk to her.
26:49Tell her.
26:50I am.
26:51She knows that.
26:52She knows.
26:53But you're going to lose her, pal.
26:54I know.
26:55I need to buck my ideas up, I know.
26:56Yeah, but bucking your ideas up is one thing.
26:58Doing what you've done to her.
26:59But here's the other thing.
27:00You won't like this, Kel.
27:02You said you degraded, but you allowed it to happen.
27:04You continued to allow it to happen.
27:05Well, I never expected it to happen.
27:06I wouldn't expect it to come in.
27:07I'd just come out of the toilet, we went into one of the eyes and he just went bang,
27:10right down with...
27:11...trousers.
27:12Brilliant.
27:13And I just didn't expect him to do that.
27:14No, but at that point, a lot of women would have said,
27:17You're a lowlife.
27:18Don't disrespect me.
27:19I'm out of here.
27:20That's what I'm trying to say to you.
27:21Why'd you put up with that behaviour?
27:22I tried to justify it, I guess, and hoped it wouldn't happen again.
27:25What do you want to say to him?
27:26Talk to each other, please.
27:27I just want to tell you, like, if you keep accusing me after this, today, you can...
27:32I didn't know about that, to be honest.
27:38I'm working off and done.
27:41You mean that, don't you?
27:43It's fair enough.
27:44Because it's draining me, just wearing me down.
27:46It's fair enough.
27:47Give me the results.
27:51Well, this is interesting.
27:56At the start of the test, Kerry disclosed that she was suffering from a medical condition
28:01and was taking medication.
28:03It was not possible to determine the definitive result of truth or deception to this test because
28:07of Kerry's physical condition, therefore the test is inconclusive.
28:10That doesn't help anybody, does it?
28:11No.
28:12Inconclusive, my darling.
28:15Here's the thing I want to tell you.
28:18Somebody once said to me that paranoia, extreme paranoia, only ever gets sorted when you lose
28:24something and you wise up and you jolt yourself into reality.
28:27I don't think this woman's cheated on you at all.
28:29I think the way that you've treated her is degrading and embarrassing.
28:31I think it absolutely comes down to your past.
28:33I think it comes down to the fact that you've been cheated on before.
28:36And you won't listen to me because she'll carry on doing it, but at some point she'll
28:40wake up one day and she'll say, I don't need that.
28:42You have to say to yourself, right, there's the lady I want to be with.
28:45Do I trust her?
28:46Yes.
28:47Are there going to be moments when it's difficult?
28:48Yes.
28:49When I'm going to have to take a long, hard look at myself and try and get through those
28:52moments and make it stronger?
28:53Or do you know what?
28:54I haven't much a lover.
28:55I can't trust her.
28:56I've got to go my own way.
28:57Two of you go that way together.
28:58Give her a round of applause.
29:06My next guest today, Shane, is here, and he is desperate for DNA results on his
29:11youngest child with on-off partner, Jenny.
29:12Now, Shane says that, just five months ago, Jenny was overheard by a friend saying that
29:16Shane was not the dad to her youngest son.
29:18Shane believes there could be a strong possibility, as he believes that Jenny has cheated
29:22on him, check this, throughout their 10-year relationship, but he says that if DNA
29:26proves he's not the dad. He's going to turn his back on this lady for good. He's nervous
29:30apparently. Shane's on the car show that way.
29:38Nice to see you again.
29:41We have met before and you and she always seem to be quite tight. So I come in this
29:46morning. This is a completely different story. Are you nervous? Yeah. Because it means a lot.
29:51I'm going to ask you perhaps differently. You've been in, I never quite understand what on-off
29:55means, but you've been with this lady for 11 years and you have six children.
29:59Yep. And yet my gambit there was, you're aware or you believe that she's cheated on you
30:05throughout. Yep. Why? Of course. One minute she's going, the next minute she's going back.
30:16She's not given for keeping her mouth shut. Jen will get to you. You need to talk, right?
30:20You need to not... No, no, no, no, no, no. Shut up. You only know or you'll get to the
30:26I haven't said anything yet. Don't start on me. Sit down and be quiet. When I try and get
30:30something out of him, then you can come out. Is that all right?
30:33Yeah.
30:34Here's your picture. Look at me.
30:38Talk to me. I'll get blamed anyway. Talk to me. I've been told by loads of people the
30:43youngest isn't mine. Come on. Give me some facts.
30:46I've heard people say it, innit?
30:47Has it been difficult? How long have these doubts been around?
30:54Ever since Jenny had a stroke.
30:55She was ill, wasn't she?
30:57She had a stroke last year.
30:58The age of 29?
31:00Ever since then, she's just been...
31:02It's just she's not being the same woman.
31:05Have you ever thought that maybe because of that medical situation it changed the way
31:10she thinks or maybe she's saying things she doesn't mean? I don't know. I mean, here's
31:14my question. She ever said it to you?
31:16Yeah.
31:16What?
31:18Jordan's not mine.
31:20She's said it in arguments.
31:23When you've split and you've had breaks, she's been with other men, but it would be fair
31:27to say you've been with other women too.
31:29Once.
31:31But she's been with lots of men.
31:34Right.
31:35She's been with lots of men.
31:36But we've been on a brick house, other people.
31:37Do you know what? Jenny's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
31:40CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
31:42You know that, because I've told you what.
31:51Why haven't I got me?
31:53Because why tell me to sit down and shut up when you're all against difference, you're
31:56getting two sides of the story.
31:57Because I have to have his side, then I have your side.
31:59So why, why? You do this all the time. You're stupid.
32:02You're me kind of. It's me.
32:05Stupid.
32:06Because why sit there? You try talking down to people all the time.
32:09You know, just because you've got this job, it doesn't mean you're better than anybody
32:13else, does it?
32:15Sorry, hold on a minute.
32:16Hold on a minute.
32:17Why is it my fault?
32:18If you could sort this out with your boyfriend, you wouldn't damn well be here, would you?
32:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:24How have you told him he's not the father?
32:27Yeah, I didn't hear.
32:28Well, then he's going to slightly down.
32:30Yeah, yeah.
32:31So why is that my fault?
32:32You kept your mouth shut, you wouldn't be insecure.
32:35Well, shut up mouthing at me, you immature.
32:37LAUGHTER
32:39If you don't want my help, take your relationship, have all your doubts, and deal with your own
32:44rubbish.
32:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:48What's the point?
32:53You don't want the DNA, no?
32:54I don't care, do it if you want to do it.
32:56I don't want to do it.
32:57I don't want to help you.
32:58Go and sort your own damn relationship.
32:59Why would I want to help you?
33:01Well, go find your own wife, then run off, gardener, and f***ing daddy.
33:05Oh, I'm sorry.
33:06Sorry, sorry, who's the gardener?
33:14LAUGHTER
33:15It's not me, Jenny, it's him.
33:18You told him he wasn't the father, he's got doubts.
33:21Well, I'm not trying to talk down to me, then.
33:24Talk down to you, what do you think you've just done to me?
33:28LAUGHTER
33:29It's not what you've just done to me.
33:31Maybe you're guilty of sin, that's why you're shouting, yeah?
33:35Maybe I'm guilty of sin.
33:36Maybe he isn't the father, that's what you...
33:38You know nothing!
33:38Is he the father of the baby?
33:40Yeah, he is.
33:41Then why don't you get out here and prove it to him and stop shouting at me then?
33:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
33:47I'm not chasing her.
33:48I'm not chasing you, love, whatever you've told.
33:51If you want the DNA, you'll get out here.
33:53I don't have to do this, and you can stand there and grin all you want.
33:56I'm here for him.
33:57If you want to come out and prove...
33:58Come here and do it, then.
33:59I'm not walking back there.
34:00Do you think I'll f***ing know you're?
34:02No, I'm not sitting here like an idiot.
34:04LAUGHTER
34:08I've got some rumours.
34:10What does it mean to you?
34:12World.
34:13What does it mean?
34:14World.
34:17It's not me, look at me.
34:19Why did you tell him he wasn't?
34:21Because he wound me up and they were mad and I were arguing with him.
34:23No one explain that to him, then.
34:25No, cos I already have, and obviously these rumours mean more so.
34:28Do you love him?
34:29Well, yeah, obviously.
34:30It wasn't the most glowing reference he said about you.
34:32I said, what do you think of her when she's all right?
34:34Eleven years, potentially six kids.
34:37Tell him how you truly feel before I did the result.
34:39Don't shout, don't scream.
34:40Tell him from your heart how you really feel.
34:44Come on.
34:45Listen.
34:46Tell him.
34:47Well, he just believes rumours anyway, so...
34:51Why do you believe rumours?
34:52Talk to her.
34:53I'm going to believe rumours when everybody's saying it,
34:55and then you're saying it's my first.
34:57Answer that.
34:58Yeah, well, you shouldn't get me mad then, should you?
35:01What does this child mean to you?
35:03It means well to me.
35:04The DNA test results show that Shane...
35:07Is the dad.
35:09Read it.
35:10Yeah, exactly.
35:12Are you going to stop bleeding?
35:13Is the child's biological problem.
35:15Are you going to stop bleeding?
35:16Are you going to stop bleeding?
35:21I'll make a suggestion.
35:23I'm doing some stupid things.
35:24Everybody's done stupid things, but look at me.
35:28You would understand wouldn't you, that...
35:30however wound up you are, and however...
35:34you mithered saying that is going to add fuel to the fire but you
35:39if you've been with somebody for 11 years who's had six children
35:43if you listen to other people that's going to wind her up her reaction
35:47probably wasn't the best plus I think we haven't made enough of
35:50is that you did have a serious medical incident last year
35:54my mother of that and maybe
35:58that changes the way you think the way you react or other things
36:02and maybe trying to bring up six kids having had a stroke at a young age
36:06and be constantly mithered maybe occasionally just go oh do you know
36:09what if that's what you think you might as well think it then there's the fact
36:13why don't you try and find a clean slate and start with Graham and talk about
36:16each other and talk about how you feel and start learning to be honest and
36:19open with each other we'll offer you that yeah nice to see you again
36:24nice to see you start talking to each other back after this break don't go
36:30anyway she's admitted to cheat on us three occasions tell my team if he carries on
36:37like this I'll finish with him I'm sick of it sick of what
36:39basically you're accusing us all the time but you cheated on him three times love
36:43yes and if I treated on him again I will do admit it the DNA test results show the
36:47callum
36:54there's a feud in the family tearing your family apart do you think you're being
37:01lied to and need my help to prove it if you're 16 or over and you'd like to be
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37:31yesterday Callum is here for double DNA results on his two kids after fiancee
37:36Rowan confessed to cheating on him three times and come says that she has been
37:40caught red-handed messaging other men using fake profiles online and he has
37:44serious doubts whether his young child is actually his please welcome Callum
37:49this guy right is in term or big day Callum's on the Jeremy Kyle show
38:01listen um you've been with this lady for four and a half years I know this is a
38:05difficult day for you two kids yep 13 months old and a two week old double DNA
38:13tell me why my friend well basically start the relationship was perfectly
38:17fine me and Ron and then obviously the fake Facebook profile sort of come into
38:22play well she was cool to you yeah yeah she am I was working at the time as a
38:27delivery driver for a pizza place she was working in the pizza shop she had a day
38:32off and I was at work so she would this woman found out she was first pregnant
38:36basically and I went on to check on it make sure she was perfectly fine and that
38:40with her being pregnant door was locked she wasn't answering her phone found a
38:43bit unusual but obviously I go back to work got back from work went by the shop
38:48and checked upstairs and like the bedrooms upstairs above the shop she wasn't
38:53there and then I come downstairs like sort of thing like where the hell could
38:57she be next minute you know she comes walking around the corner with a kebab in
39:00hand oh yeah I don't enough it's for a popular shop and sort of see how you're
39:03doing at work and that and then she didn't know but obviously when they've been
39:07having intercourse he sort of give her hickeys on her neck so I clocked the
39:11hickeys you would do yeah and obviously I knew she didn't leave the house with
39:14hickeys so I just didn't see anything I was like oh hope you are right now she's
39:18walking around with two hickeys on her neck and a kebab in her end yeah um she's
39:25confessed to cheating well I pulled her on the way back in the car so I said do you
39:30think I'm stupid and she's like what do you mean I was like you've got hickeys on your
39:33neck and then obviously she spilled the beans and so what is she admitted to well I
39:37basically she's admitted to cheating on us three occasions and once while she
39:41was pregnant yeah let's talk about this fake profile what messages pal well
39:49basically it was the same night I found out obviously went to sleep in bed I was
39:52asleep she was leaning up on her phone so I woke up during the night seeing her on
39:55her phone I sort of said oh what are you doing so I said oh no no just go back to
39:58sleep she started turning her phone so I sort of grabbed the phone out of her hand I
40:01sort of like what are you doing here and I looked and that's when I seen the
40:04messages with the first person and the second person sort of explain what is it
40:11you sort of seeing like I want to come meet you and stuff and when you next
40:14come to pick us up didn't really say that did it no not really what did it say
40:18well it sort of says like I want on a better man and and stuff I feel sorry for
40:23you bro knows I provided and have a bond with the kids I spent three grand on my
40:27oldest at Christmas I'd never cheat on her she's the only girl I've ever slept
40:32with yeah it's against my religion to cheat yeah why we're doing a DNA test on
40:38both because you keep going on to us the youngest doesn't look anything like you
40:41that's that that's the issue you almost thought I don't think it looks like me
40:44obviously won't see she does but obviously on the first one Scarlett it's
40:50basically because it was around about the same time there's like a week gap
40:53you're bonded with Scarlett nicely oh yeah it was every appointment the birth
40:57everything same with Alec that was every appointment your concern is
41:01predominantly the youngest kid right yeah what if both are is this a
41:06relationship that can get over what's gone wrong yeah I mean obviously like when
41:11that happened that was like two year ago you know I mean so when I'll happen it
41:15was two year ago and obviously one promised that she would never ever do
41:18it what if either or both of these aren't yours can't even say it in words to be
41:26honest I really like you mate I hope you get the answers that you want you
41:29certainly deserve it you say if I'm not the dads I don't know what but I want to
41:34stay I believe I am I don't believe should she again I just need this to move
41:38for is that right yeah all right good lad well Rowan's on the Jeremy Kyle show
41:40that way
41:50because some of the stuff that he said is true and some of it's tell my team if
41:54he carries on like this I'll finish with him I'm sick of it sick of what
41:57basically accusing us all the time but you cheated on three times love yes and if I
42:02cheated on him again I would admit it doesn't make it right though does it no um
42:07he knows you say deep down he's the dad this is just something that he can't
42:12move on I made a promise soon as my daughter was born which you know yourself
42:16yeah so that I would never treat again he's the double of our daughter that
42:19Scarlett the 30-month-old and our newborn yeah he knows everything that's
42:25happened yes I cheated but I've been honest and I find it infuriating that I've
42:30been that honest and he still doesn't trust me but isn't that with respect your
42:34fault yes I don't blame him actually was it the the cheating was it affairs was
42:40it one night stands what was like basically I slept with the person
42:45multiple times before I even got with column so the cheating how many times
42:51did you sleep with him well technically I only slept with him once you tell my team
42:56this is a joke he's constant going in my ear yep that you only cheated on him once the
43:02other two times you believe that he's the father of both if that proves that is this a relationship
43:07that can survive can move forward do you love this guy or not tell me the truth yes
43:11you sure about that yes I don't think you do well you believe that you tell my team he's paranoid he is I mean obviously you've got to understand the past you know I mean and obviously I try my best and that's all I'm physically
43:30do you know I see I see a man is completely in love with you don't take this the wrong way he's got
43:37doormat printed on his forehead the way you look at him is not the way you should look at him seeing
43:41as how it's you who caused all this darling mm-hmm you look like he owes you a favor I'm thinking it
43:48should be round the other way
43:50you cheated on him didn't you if once you're right and both are his can this be put to bed
44:05yeah this is DNA on your youngest how old two weeks how sure are you that Callum is the father of your
44:11youngest I'll put me life on it the DNA test results show that Callum just the one you worried about
44:17yeah you are the child's power ledger to a family
44:20why do you why do you um why do you look like that at him too much eh yeah I'll give you some in here
44:34here's the thing what I will say is this if somebody's honest and they admit a mistake and you choose to stay
44:41with them is it fair to then keep harping on about it no that's not like obviously there's bits where I
44:46shouldn't have done I've went too far and I apologize for that what does that mean
44:49absolutely everything ah thank you very much about Charlie don't be silly and this is the eldest one
44:54the one that how sure are you about this one put me life on up the DNA test results show that
45:03Callum sorry she's the double of them is not the child's body that's the eldest darling you put your life
45:11on it can you give me that Calum Calum Calum Calum come in Calum
45:27all right I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I thought the youngest that was
45:44great and he's great you can you come here please come on have a seat just come and sit here can sit
45:54down I'm just gonna leave you be gray in a sec all right just sit there hello yeah let's see Rann okay
46:05Well, I do, because she cheated.
46:06You can absolutely do that.
46:08I was already pregnant before I did it.
46:11I love her face.
46:14I love her face.
46:16Sorry, guys.
46:17I'm so sorry.
46:18Can I believe this?
46:20I thought it was great news, because the baby was the one you were concerned about, wasn't it?
46:26Rowan, look at me.
46:27I'm not having a go.
46:27Rowan, look at me.
46:28This doesn't change any...
46:30But dear God, it's not yours.
46:33What's God?
46:33It's not yours.
46:34Listen, don't shout at him.
46:36Don't shout at him.
46:37What's Scarlet second him?
46:38What's Scarlet second him?
46:39It's not fair on you.
46:40What is Scarlet second him?
46:41It's not fair on you.
46:42You've got someone else's heat.
46:42She's my kid.
46:43Do me a favour.
46:44Do me a favour.
46:44She's my kid.
46:45Listen, this is absolutely one moment in your life where nobody...
46:48Look at me.
46:48Look at me.
46:49Look at me.
46:50My son in that chart.
46:50I won't bother what anyone's here.
46:51Excuse me a second.
46:52Look at me.
46:53Do you want to know something?
46:53I'm going to tell you something now, and I'm going to tell you this in the calmest way I've
46:56ever told anybody in this show.
46:57Listen to me.
46:58This is a really decent guy.
47:00I actually genuinely believe that you two can get over this because you admitted about
47:05the cheating and it's patently obvious.
47:06No, I can't.
47:06Listen to me.
47:07Please listen to me.
47:08You're saying that because you think he's going to do one.
47:10Look at me.
47:10Do not blow it by going off on one here.
47:12Listen.
47:14Go on.
47:14The oldest was when you were cheating.
47:16The youngest was what he was concerned about.
47:18I cheated once on him.
47:20Once the other two times we were on breaks.
47:22We weren't even together the first time.
47:24Listen to what he's saying to you.
47:26Scarlett's got my cernium right.
47:28She's my daughter.
47:30I was there.
47:31Every single appointment, every single scan.
47:35I cut the cord.
47:36You meant this work?
47:37Every...
47:37110%.
47:38What about that?
47:39She's...
47:40She's a love of me life.
47:42I love her a bit.
47:43I love your family a bit.
47:45Do you know who the father is, darling?
47:46Yeah.
47:47Okay.
47:48Listen.
47:48I'm not putting you through anymore, but I just want to say one thing to you.
47:51I know you're not going to listen to me.
47:52He's a good man.
47:53Do not ruin this by pushing him away because you think he's going to do one.
47:57Because I could look in this guy's eyes and tell you, yes, he's devastated.
48:00Right?
48:02It'll be all right.
48:03Listen to me.
48:04I'm going to say the same to you.
48:05And this is harsh.
48:07Like when she admitted to cheating and you couldn't leave it.
48:10Don't hang around if you're going to throw this back at her for the rest of her.
48:13Oh, no.
48:13Oh, no.
48:14It's the end of the year.
48:15I appreciate she's coming here.
48:17She's coming here.
48:18She's got the truth.
48:19You can be a family.
48:20You're going to have to make some adjustments.
48:21We'll help you with that.
48:22But you've got to be honest with each other, all right?
48:23Give him a round of applause, guys.
48:28That was a shock.
48:29He was concerned about the young one.
48:31Turned out the eldest wasn't his.
48:32That's DNA.
48:33That's the truth.
48:33I'm out of time for this morning.
48:34If you want to be on my show, you need my help, visit my website.
48:36But the details are on screen to my guests, to this audience, and to you for watching.
48:40I mean, here you are.
48:40I'll see you soon.
48:41Take care.
48:42Bye-bye for now.
48:42I'll see you soon.
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