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  • 6/11/2025
During a House Rules Committee hearing, Rep. Michelle Fischbach (R-MN) questioned Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-AL) about the rescissions included in HR 4.

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00:00Thank you, Madam Chair.
00:01And first, I would just like to say, Mr. Adderall, if you would like, if there's anything you want to respond to, I just wanted to give you the opportunity.
00:08Well, let me just say that, you know, waste, fraud, and abuse is what this is all about.
00:12And, I mean, we're hearing examples from the other side that I think are totally been taken out of context.
00:21America has saved lives across the world.
00:24We all agree with that.
00:25And we will continue to do that.
00:27I think if anyone that's concerned about the future of U.S. foreign policy in this country should support this because rescinding these counterproductive funds will help restore the integrity that we have had as a nation in our images abroad.
00:45And I can tell you, it is these polarizing policies, including the DEI, that have undermined our image around the world.
00:55Like I said, I have talked to members of parliament around the world, and they are very concerned about what was happening in the last administration, and this administration wants to go down another path.
01:05And I totally agree that we need to go down another path.
01:09Thank you very much.
01:10And I just wanted to add that this is what government's supposed to do.
01:15You know, the word stolen and stealing was used.
01:18But government is supposed to be looking at programs, is supposed to be looking at how we are spending taxpayer dollars.
01:27As elected officials, this is our job.
01:29This is our responsibility to look at programs, to make cuts where necessary, and to be responsible with the taxpayers' dollars.
01:37And, Mr. Hatterhold, you had mentioned then, and I think it bears repeating, that we're only taking a portion.
01:46In some of these cases, it's as low as 12%.
01:48But none of these programs are not being zeroed out.
01:52And I just wanted to take a minute to read a couple of things.
01:55This is from the White House on the proposed rescission of budget authority.
01:58And this is, it says that this proposal would not reduce treatment, but would eliminate programs that are antithetical to American interests and worsen the lives of women and children.
02:11So they say very clearly that it would not reduce treatment.
02:14And this is the one regarding the HIV-AIDS money.
02:18You know, enacting the rescission would reinstate focus on appropriate health and life spending.
02:25And we look at another one where they're talking here, which is another, it's a 12, just approximately a 12% cut.
02:31We're not zeroing it out.
02:32We're not, you know, gutting the program.
02:35A simple 12% reduction, which I think we owe the American people the responsible thing to do, which we have to make reductions.
02:43And it says this proposal would eliminate only those programs that neither provide life-saving treatment nor support American interests.
02:51So this is not, we are, the opposition likes to make this sound like we are gutting programs and leaving, you know, leaving people dying in the streets.
03:02But that's not the case.
03:03These are, these are modest cuts.
03:05These are modest rescissions.
03:06And, and it's very difficult to, to listen to them saying that we're doing all of these horrible things.
03:14And, and, and, well, this is really the truth and Mr. Adholt, you had a comment.
03:18Let me just add that we, we, some of the examples that, of the ways that we're, we have seen 1.5 million to advance diversity and equity inclusion in Serbia's workplaces and business communities.
03:30Um, 70,000 for production of a DEI musical in Ireland, um, 2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam, and the list goes on and on.
03:42And that's what this rescission package is trying to do to address those things.
03:46And, um, like you said, it's, it's a very small portion that's being, um, rescinded.
03:52But, um, to hear the other side, it sounds like everything's been decimated and that's just not the case.
03:57I appreciate that.
03:59And, and, and, you know, as we, as we take a look at, you know, and, and then we talk a little bit about NPR or NPR and, you know, the programs that they're funding, they're busy using taxpayer dollars for programs that are called, um, when civility is used as a cudgel against people of color.
04:17Um, in 2021, NPR lamented that animals deserve pronouns too.
04:22And then we've got, when we're talking about children's programs, they have a drag, a show called, uh, it's a drag queen, um, and it's a children's program called Little Miss Hot Mess.
04:33They've got another, um, one, the hips on the drag queen go swish, swish, swish.
04:38That does not sound like children's programming to me.
04:42That sounds like a political agenda.
04:43Exactly.
04:44And, um, and the American people are fed up with it.
04:47And, uh, so I think these are very, these are very modest, um, as things go, as we look at our debt, we have to be responsible, um, stewards of the taxpayer dollar.
04:58And so I think, and, and, you know, Mr. Adel, you pointed out a few of the programs in some of these and, um, woke programs and the chairwoman did.
05:07And so, um, I, I think that we, that certainly when you look at what is going on here, these are modest cuts and we are trying to get at things that, um, that the American people don't agree with.
05:18And we, and we even mentioned about the $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru.
05:22Yeah.
05:23The $2 million for six changes in LGBT, um, activism in Guatemala.
05:28And again, the list goes on.
05:30Yeah, on and on.
05:31And with that, I yield back.
05:32Excuse me.

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