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June 11, 2025 (ANI): Ahead of PM Narendra Modi’s visit to Canada for G7 summit. Canadian podcaster Josh Udall has seen a chance to reset India-Canada relation amid Khalistan tensions.

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00:00Mark Carney has touted himself in the last campaign here in Canada that he is the economic guy.
00:05He's the guy you call on a crisis and he's more focused on Canada's economic issues.
00:09And that's why a lot of what I'm seeing right now with him reaching out to Modi or Prime Minister Modi
00:13is really the idea that he wants to restart that relationship from an economic perspective
00:19because India is the number five economy in the world.
00:21It only makes sense to want to establish a solid economic relationship there.
00:26And so obviously we know that Prime Minister Modi will bring up the Calistani issue with Prime Minister Carney.
00:33And the issue that we're seeing here in Canada is there's not a whole lot of political will to address the Calistani issue here.
00:39And so it's going to be on Prime Minister Modi to really make his argument to Prime Minister Carney to even get him any movement.
00:45PM Carney is only focused on one thing, and that is economy and the economic relationship
00:51in terms of getting a solid trade relationship happening with anybody who isn't America right now.
00:58And so that is really where Mark Carney's mind is at.
01:01And I don't even think Mark Carney even knows much of the history of the Calistan issue
01:05and what's going on between India, Calistan, Hindus, and Sikhs in that history.
01:11I don't think he's even fully aware.
01:13And so I don't know how much political will there is going to be there.
01:16So it's going to be really the burden of the burden of truth is going to rely on Prime Minister Modi
01:21to make his argument towards Carney to make something happen there.
01:25I don't think Mark Carney fully understands the history of all this.
01:28And quite frankly, to be fair to him as well, most Canadians have no idea.
01:33They see some things in the media.
01:35We saw from Justin Trudeau and the likes of Jagmeet Singh in the past parliament,
01:39where there was a lot of like, hey, they killed a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil.
01:45That was the narrative.
01:47And so people don't really understand it.
01:49Specifically Canadians don't fully understand the relationship and the history that is there
01:53between Calistan and these other different groups.
01:56So there's going to be a lot of, sure, they're going to see the protests.
02:00Canadians themselves aren't going to think much of it.
02:02Of course, the Hindu community here in Canada is going to be very concerned about these things.
02:07And I've had conversations with people in that community.
02:09And yes, they are very concerned and rightfully so.
02:11But in terms of the political will of Canada, people are just going to be like, oh, I've
02:17heard something on CBC before about it.
02:19I've heard something on CTV about it, but I haven't really heard much about this.
02:23I don't see this as a threat to me.
02:25So they're not going to think much of it.
02:27So the internal workings of politics here in Canada aren't going to put much pressure
02:30on Mark Carney.
02:31Mark Carney himself will see the protests and he will dismiss it, as he typically does,
02:36to anyone who opposes him.
02:37So it's going to be, as I said, go back to Prime Minister Modi to really make clear his
02:42beliefs and what he sees.
02:43And he needs to be able to make his argument very clear to Prime Minister Karni if he wants
02:47to see any movement on the extremist side of the relationship between India and Canada.
02:52As I said, the only way that that's going to happen is Prime Minister Modi is going to
02:57have to tie a trading relationship.
03:02He's going to have to tie it since economic ties to that extradition because there is
03:06zero political will.
03:07And I'm going to be very clear with you.
03:08There is zero political will when it comes to the calisthenian issue here in Canada.
03:12No one knows anything about it.
03:14So when you hear extradition, it's like, oh, Canadians, when they hear India now, they
03:19India is the new Russia here in Canada is, oh, they're just trying to mess around in our
03:24elections, mess around in our political processes.
03:26Of course, anything that India demands, people are going to be like, they're going to shrug
03:30it off.
03:30And we're even seeing it here in Canada, where members of the calisthenian movement are getting
03:35on the CTV, the CBCs of the world, which are the big news networks here in Canada that
03:40many people listen to.
03:41And they're allowing them to say, to speak their narrative.
03:45I'm not seeing a whole lot of Hindus hopping on these networks to speak their perspective.
03:49It's a lot of calisthenians hopping on.
03:52And so Canadians are only hearing one side of it.
03:54And right now, Canadians have a, due to the work of Justin Trudeau and the likes of Jagmeet
03:59Singh in the past parliament, they've done a good job of poisoning the well of Canadians
04:04and how they view India.
04:06So again, it's going to be heavy on Modi to try and make something work if he really wants
04:10them to make that extradition happen.
04:12However, when it comes to Canada themselves, I don't think Mark Carney's likely to move on
04:15it.
04:15I think it's a big thing for Canada, because as we've seen, the last time Prime Minister
04:20Modi came to Canada was 10 years ago.
04:24And that relationship between him and Justin Trudeau was very tenuous.
04:27And what we saw here in Canada was we had a minority government.
04:32And it was upheld by the likes of Jagmeet Singh, who was leading the NDP party at the time.
04:37And what happened there is, I suspect, this is more just me looking into it, was that Jagmeet
04:45had a huge influence on Justin Trudeau's decisions on how he treated India.
04:52And we know that Jagmeet Singh, you know, had his own dicey past in terms of the groups
04:57that he was connected to, allegedly.
05:00And so there were some conversations there that, like, maybe there was something there
05:05why Justin Trudeau took such a heavy hand against India.
05:07So now that Trudeau is out of the way, Jagmeet Singh is out of the way, we have this quote
05:12unquote new parliament.
05:13This is going to be Mark Carney.
05:15This was a gesture from Mark Carney to like, hey, we're going to restart this trading relationship.
05:20Let's forget what's in the past.
05:21Let's move forward to what is ahead.
05:23And that's why I say this is also Modi's opportunity to have those conversations to try
05:28and tie what he wants from an extremist perspective in terms of the Calistani group and tie it to some
05:35economic outcomes with his relationship with Canada.
05:38We're seeing it here in the G7, inviting Prime Minister Modi to Canada.
05:42That is what they're doing.
05:44That is going to be, it'll be interesting to hear the conversation and what comes of that
05:48meeting between Mark Carney and Modi to be able to kind of develop some trading relationships,
05:52develop some positive outcomes for both countries.
05:55And this right now, what we see here in late June, this is the moment.
06:00And however this goes is how it's going to dictate the relationship moving forward.
06:05If it goes well, well, India and Canada will come closer together all of a sudden.
06:09And it might be a long game for Prime Minister Modi to get everything he wants.
06:12And it's going to be a long game for Mark Carney to get everything he wants.
06:15But this is going to be the start of that relationship.
06:17And if that first meeting goes well, this will be a positive moment for both countries moving forward.
06:21And it's going to be a positive moment for both countries and countries moving forward.

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