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  • 6/10/2025
Carrying out major reforms is a gradual process that requires consensus from all parties within the Madani government, says Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

Anwar acknowledged some quarters have questioned the pace of reforms under his administration, saying that there had been progress, albeit not as fast as hoped for.

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00:00I don't think everyone should be talking about governance and anti-corruption and no but I think
00:16that policy both the leaders and the corporate players and those who talk about some finance
00:24and the financial instruments must be reminded that one of the major flaws in issue of governance
00:34is not just that they're not Islamic in terms of Islamic instruments but because they're
00:40blatantly corrupt and abuse of power. So I think we have to address this. Failure as a country
00:46is not because, oh no, you fail because you don't follow the syria. That's what I learned
00:51in the 70s. But when you start reading and go deeper into this, you realize, of course,
00:58it is our duty to understand the syria and try to apply. But the failure is, of course, basic
01:05human flaw of endemic corruption. Of course, if you ask me then, Anwar now as Prime Minister,
01:12we're not doing your utmost. Of course, I do it to the best of my capacity. But we have
01:26to move. There are some impatient ones who say, no, move now. You can move now or you'll be
01:31thrown out tomorrow. So it has to be with wisdom. Bil-Hikmah means a lot, not only in how you profess,
01:40but how you act. Do you have these resources? Do you have the necessary support? Are you able
01:49to convince the ruling elite and the professional elites that this is a mission that must be supported
01:58by all? And what are the stages? Where do you begin? Can you just undertake this massive reform
02:15in a year or two years or three years? I don't know. I don't have all the answers. But what
02:21I know is, there's no turning back. What I am certain is, that every month and every
02:28year, there must be some progression. Okay. For those who are impatient and once fast grows,
02:35I mean, they are, of course, blinded to the facts and the reality. Okay. Number one, if
02:40you talk about Kandilan, we have 36 in parliament. If you talk about Pakatan Harapan, we have 82
02:45in parliament. It's not even a simple majority. So there is a coalition that will work together.
02:52And we are fortunate because UMNO, when Barisan National, has now turned to be one of the core
02:59pillars committed to this reform and support. But you can't take things for granted because the process
03:05of negotiations, discussions, engagement is important. Why do I stress this point? Because it is relevant in what we say.
03:13If we do not get that consensus between the key parties, including, of course, JPS and GRS, then how do you
03:21embark and support this sort of alternative programs like the NCF and now IRIS? And, of course, the alternative is
03:31Lungbanks. I don't know whether it seems to be relevant. If it's not relevant, it doesn't matter. But I just want to
03:39provoke this to get the scholars and intellectuals and professionals to seriously think about the pillars,
03:53which cannot ignore the importance, of course, to address the issue of inequity, of objectivity, of gender equality.
04:04Malaysia. Malaysia is quite fortunate, but at least you have some recognition. But this is not the case.
04:11This is not the norm in Muslim countries. So we need to make sure justice is not what our obscure
04:23survey interpretation, but something that we truly believe and continue to act to make sure that,
04:31as I remember, Marhum, Ismail Faruqi used to tell me, is actualization of the ideal to how to implement
04:41that, that so-called the major test.

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