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00:00Hello and welcome, you're watching the political stock exchange viewers, 11 years of Modi Sarkar.
00:09While most of us have an opinion on how these 11 years have gone, we on India today have the data, the report card issued by the voters.
00:19We're going to get you the latest figures coming in on the survey conducted, but first up, allow me to take you through the headlines.
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01:57In politics, everyone has an opinion.
02:16But we have the data.
02:1911 years of Modi Sarkar.
02:21What do voters feel?
02:29Where do voters stand?
02:34What has been NDA's biggest achievements?
02:38Failures.
02:47Where does opposition stand?
02:51How will Modi's 11 years in governance be remembered?
03:04Is Prime Minister's graph rising or falling?
03:07All tracked by India Today's Political Stock Exchange.
03:18Unmatched, unmissable data analytics.
03:21All right, viewers, welcome to the Political Stock Exchange, unmatched, unmissable data analytics.
03:31Like I said earlier, everybody has an opinion on how the NDA government over the last 11 years has fared.
03:39How the Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, has fared.
03:41But, viewers, in midst of all of this, we have the actual data.
03:45And it's as soon as conducted between 7th to 9th, a survey conducted where we went across the board,
03:51speaking to over 2,500 voters, asking them on where they stand on a multitude of issues.
03:57Let me quickly cut across to our guests this evening as we analyze the voters' report card on Prime Minister Modi's 11 years.
04:07R.P. Singh, spokesperson Bharatiya Janata Party joining us.
04:10Nigat Abbas, spokesperson Congress.
04:12Ranjot Setri, political commentator.
04:14Rashutosh, author, political analyst.
04:16Amitabh Tiwari, political strategist, commentator.
04:19R.P. Singh, election analyst and researcher.
04:21All right, you know, right before we dive in to our first data point on the most impactful reform by Prime Minister Modi and his government,
04:30I want to cut across to all of you.
04:32Like I said, everybody has an opinion.
04:34The data might suggest something entirely different.
04:37So, this is your window to give your opinion.
04:40And, Ashutosh, let's begin with you.
04:42What do you make of the 11 years of the Modi government?
04:44Oh, Preeti, I think the last 11 years, you can say, that the Narendra Modi regime since 2014 at least will be remembered for how the social fabric has got fractured.
05:00How the communities has turned into two groups which are trying to fight each other.
05:08How the society has been divided into the different ideological cabins.
05:13And that's the worst part which could have any society or the country could have felt.
05:19And the other point which I want to make is that today at 11 years, when the country is faced with such a national security crisis,
05:27we found ourselves friendless across the globe.
05:31And where the Pakistan has got more friends than we today.
05:35So, in terms of foreign policy issues, on terms of social fabric, in the economy, India's economy is not growing as it should have.
05:43The Prime Minister Modi is probably the Prime Minister.
05:45So, Ashutosh, I'm going to try and cut you short because we have a lot of questions that we need to pack up.
05:49So, pack in.
05:49But I'm going to give you, in the beginning, because we'll circle back to the ratings that the voters have also given them.
05:55But in the beginning, if you had to rate the Modi government over the course of 11 years, from 1 to 10, 10 being the highest, 1 being the lowest.
06:05I will not give more than 5, more than 4.
06:07More than 5?
06:08And oh, you've relegated to 4.
06:10No, no, no.
06:10I will not give more than 4.
06:12More than 4.
06:12So, Ashutosh is 4 on 10.
06:14But Rajot Sethi, what's your opinion before we get into the data?
06:17Well, I think, Preeti ji, if anybody projects a picture of gloom and doom, and without finding any kind of a silver lining, clearly, he or she is insincere in his or her analysis.
06:33Clearly, India is on a progressing path.
06:35Obviously, you can debate that this could have been an alternate pathway, and this is where Prime Minister Modi did well, and this is where he didn't go good.
06:43Then it looks and sounds like a fair assessment.
06:45But, you know, people will fall into those brackets and would want to paint everything as dark and, you know, nightmarish.
06:53I mean, it could be for his own political career of Ashutosh ji, but not necessarily for India.
06:58I believe that things have progressed.
07:01Clearly, India is on a path of ascendancy.
07:04I still would have loved to see many more other aspects also, for example, administrative reforms, bureaucratic reforms.
07:10But you cannot take away from what Prime Minister Modi has achieved over these decade-long leadership leading the country at the helm.
07:17All right. Okay, Rajat Sethi, one to ten. Ten being the highest, one being the lowest. How much would you rate the 11 years of the Modi government?
07:24I would give him nine.
07:25You'd give him nine. So, a massive jump from four to nine. This is what, you know, two different political analysts of two sides of the spectrum.
07:33Amitabh Tiwari, very quickly, how would you rate the Modi government, the ups and downs, the, you know, where the government stands on the metrics of what you feel they have achieved or not achieved?
07:44See, essentially, clearly, the government has worked a lot on infrastructure creation.
07:51I think that is a big plus for the Modi government.
07:54And also on the national security issue, the way the zero tolerance against terrorism activities and the stance against Pakistan is also something which has been lapped up by voters.
08:04On the, on the front of social polarization, I think that is a valid point made by Asu Toshji, that polarization has increased in the society over the last 10, 11 years.
08:16And I would say on the aspect of unemployment, the government needs to buckle up and do a lot.
08:21You know, that's one of the questions there. Let's see what, would you want to venture a number between 1 to 10, Amitabh Tiwari?
08:29See, I always believe that things are not black or white, it's gray.
08:34So, I would rate it somewhere at around 7 out of 10.
08:38At 7. All right. So, you know, that's not bad.
08:40But, all right. So, from what, let's get into now, party spokespersons.
08:45Nikhat, if you would want to go first on what has been, of course, the opposition's critique of the 11 years of Modi governance.
08:56Hi, Priti. Good evening to you and good evening to the fellow panelists and your viewers.
09:00If we talk about the 11 years from farmers to youth and from economy to the national security,
09:04what I think that BJP's 11 years, Modi's 11 years has been nothing but just a textbook of blunders wrapped in PR.
09:12Because he's the same person, Arendra Modi is the same person, who had promised two-crawled jobs in one year.
09:16But what he, every year, has promised since 11 years is nothing but broken dreams.
09:22He's the same person who has talked about the subsidized LPG, but in his tenure, the LPG rates have gone from 410 to 1100.
09:29He's the same person who used to talk about the GDP, but it has stood so low to 6.5%.
09:35The unemployment going at the highest in the last 45 years, which is 9.2%, and the food inflation at 12.5%.
09:41What I think is that the Achse Din, which he used to claim, what Narendra Modi used to claim,
09:47has only come up for the people who travel in the private jets and not for the people who are in the Russian lines.
09:53And he has clearly turned India into Adani's shopping mall.
09:56And when we talk about the three masterstroke, Preeti, what Narendra Modi ji has always said,
10:02that these were the three masterstroke.
10:03What he has done is demonetization, abrogation of Article 370, and...
10:07Do I need to ask you how much you would rate him on the government, the NDA government on a scale of 1 to 10?
10:13I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
10:14You can't save it, save it, because you have a lot to talk about.
10:16I will tell you a lot.
10:18Yeah, yeah, go ahead, make your point.
10:19Okay, then minus 56 inches, Preeti.
10:22Minus 56 inches.
10:24All right, we're getting all sorts of numbers there.
10:26R.P. Singh, you want to make that pitch of 11 years of Modi governance?
10:32Achievements, I'm sure.
10:35Well, Preeti, Preeti, I'll come to the keynote first.
10:39First, let's talk about the numbers.
10:41Your giving numbers or Ashutosh giving numbers or Nikita Abbas giving numbers or Rajya Sethi giving numbers won't help.
10:47Ultimately, it counts down to how many elections we have won and people are accepting our policies or not.
10:52This is a bigger thing.
10:54And yes, if the number has to be given, then it's 90 plus, because 90 times Mr. Rahul Gandhi in succession has lost elections in last few years.
11:03So, the numbers can be judged by this only, that how much popular Prime Minister Modi ji is and how is the opposition doing.
11:11But coming to just two, three core subject now, I'm not going to get into the details.
11:16Remember, Malmohan Singh ji in his regime said, coalition components lead to corruption.
11:22Tell me, one case of corruption last 11 years, there's a basic, I mean.
11:26Second, national security, I mean, I remember Anthony Saab in the parliament said, we're not building roads around the China
11:35and we're not building infrastructure along the borders of China and other places, because ultimately, if we build, the China will use that.
11:42I mean, that is his statement in the parliament.
11:47One more thing.
11:49Last but not the least, the Jan Kalyan schemes of the Prime Minister reaching out to the poorest of poorest,
11:55whether it is Ayushman Bharat, whether it is Kassan Saman Nidhi, whether it is housing to poor,
12:00whether it is tap water to for poor, I mean, all these schemes have led to poverty elevation
12:06and it's not me, the World Bank's latest data says so.
12:09On a scale of 1 to 10, save it, sir.
12:11Like I said, like Nikhat, save it, you'll have enough to talk about through the course of this broadcast.
12:17On a scale of 1 to 10, where would you rate your government, sir?
12:24I just now told you, go by the ratings of the people and we'll be winning elections after election.
12:29I mean, that's the best, I mean, I give 10 out of 10, you say, oh.
12:32All right, so 10 out of 10, the BJP minus 56 is what the Congress gives.
12:36Seven was Amitabh Tiwari, four was Ashutosh and Ranjad Sethi, what were you?
12:41You were seven.
12:43No, Ranjad Sethi, what was your number?
12:45Do number, you can take it in your hand.
12:47Sorry, tell me what was your number.
12:50It was nine.
12:51I don't know what is echoing in your mind, Peti ji.
12:55Seven wasn't so bad.
12:56Seven wasn't so bad.
12:57I don't think there's anything wrong with seven.
12:59So nine was Ranjad Sethi.
13:02But all right, let's quickly move in to the first data point.
13:06And like I said, we can all have opinions, but let's see what the respondents had to say.
13:12And we've broken them up in terms of NDA voters, opposition voters, pen sitters.
13:16So always important to look what the others are thinking, which are neither the NDA or the opposition camp.
13:23The first set of numbers and what has been the most impactful reform by Prime Minister Modi and his government.
13:30What you see on your television screen is very interesting because those respondents who usually have an affinity towards the BJP and the NDA,
13:3924.6% of them said that abrogation 370 was the biggest reform of the Modi government.
13:47The opposition just 10% and the others, not bad, 19.4%.
13:52They fall neither of the camps, but 19.4% of people believe that abrogation 370 has been the biggest reform that the Modi government has put forth.
14:05Digital India, 18.6% NDA, opposition respondents 23.9%.
14:12Well, that's a big one that the opposition respondents have given to the Modi government where nearly 24% of them feel that the most impactful reform of the Modi government has been Digital India.
14:25There are others, 12.9% GST is interesting because 13.9% of opposition feels that it is the most impactful reform because, mind you viewers, it was GST,
14:36which was also one of the most controversial reforms that was put forth by the Modi government.
14:42Let's quickly move into our second set of graphics and we will go back to our panelists this evening.
14:49How effective has Modi government been in managing the economy?
14:54Now, NDA respondents there say nearly 50%, 50.4% of NDA respondents polled highly effective,
15:02that the Modi government has been highly effective in managing the economy.
15:06Even 37.4% of NDA voters seem to say that highly effective.
15:12Others, 31.2%, that's an important figure, so nearly 3 out of 10 people who neither come in from the NDA or the opposition camp or affinity towards either of them feel that the Modi government has been highly effective in managing the economy.
15:30Somewhat effective, NDA respondents 23.3%, 20.9%, others 24.7%.
15:39Highly ineffective, 8.1% of NDA respondents opposition, 13.6% and others at 16.1%.
15:48Let's get in the opinions rolling.
15:50Ashutosh, would you want to weigh in, especially when it comes down to the most impactful reform by the Modi government in the last 11 years,
15:59abrogation 370, right on top?
16:01And what's interesting, Ashutosh, is that even the ones who don't fall into either sides of the camp, be it the NDA or the opposition voters,
16:09also seem to suggest nearly 20% that that has been the biggest reform.
16:13See, Preeti, as you know, being a broadcaster myself, I don't question the data of any public opinion or anything.
16:22But if you ask me, I think the Narendra Modi's government will remember for the opportunities it has missed in the last 11 years.
16:29India should have, by now, should have been on the roll.
16:32India should have been something around 6 trillion economy or 7 trillion economy.
16:36But the way they have managed it, I think they have messed up.
16:39They're thoroughly messed up.
16:40And this shows in the data also, when Narendra Modi became the prime minister in 2014, 2015, 2016, the economy was growing at the rate of 8%.
16:49But what happened?
16:50Suddenly, one fine night, you thought you had to do demonetization.
16:53And then the way they messed up GST, and even before the COVID, before the COVID, don't forget it.
16:59Don't blame COVID.
17:00Before the COVID, the GDP was something around 3.5%.
17:05So don't blame the COVID for what happened later.
17:08The issue is, when the economy was going at a rate of 8%, and then suddenly it has come down to 3.5% in February 2020, and now onward, it has never gone up.
17:23Again, it is 6.5%, 6.2%, something like that, with a low base.
17:28So my point is, the economy, by now, should have been something around 7 to 8 percent, 8 trillion economy.
17:36But we could not reach there.
17:38But, but, Ashutosh, but if you look at the figures on economy, you know, and I want to, and Rajat Sethi, I'll bring you in.
17:44They actually, you gave that caveat right in the beginning, that you don't want to question the numbers.
17:48But, if you just go by the data, it does seem that where the voters are concerned, and they could even come in from the opposition's divide.
17:58And, you know, they might be voting for the opposition.
18:01Even they seem...
18:02Yes, sir.
18:02Can I answer this question?
18:05Even in this data, if you look at the make in India, the very first time the Prime Minister took office, make in India was a very tom-tom.
18:12Now, where is this?
18:13Something around 9.1 percent, 10 percent.
18:15GST, again, 11.5 percent.
18:18Why not 30 percent, 40 percent, or the 60 percent?
18:21So, the point I'm trying to make it, the point I'm trying to make is, is the economy you had taken at the rate of 8 percent, and now you are something around 6.5 percent, something like that.
18:30But, Rajat Sethi, I want you to weigh in, because if you look at the data when it comes to how effective has the Modi government been in managing the economy,
18:38you look at either sides of the divide, NDA, even the opposition, where nearly 4 in 10 people, 37.4, that's closer to 40, actually believes that the government has been highly effective where managing the economy is concerned.
18:52So, Seerl, you know, whatever Ashutosh, his thoughts are, don't seem to at least filter down to even what are mostly opposition voters.
19:01They actually believe that the government did a good job.
19:03Well, if Ashutosh Ji and the people in the opposition were to unpack these numbers, there would be very important lessons for them.
19:11But the problem is they never do analysis.
19:13They only come on TV to do some kind of analysis.
19:15Personal attack, guys, I seriously, I don't like this.
19:18I don't like this.
19:19I mean, in some fact, if you cannot interpret, if you cannot interpret, if you cannot interpret.
19:23Okay, okay, can I, gentlemen, one second, let's go one by one.
19:28Okay, Ashutosh, I understand, I understand, Ashutosh, that you want to steer clear of personal attacks, and Rajat, we are all better than that.
19:34Let's steer clear of personal attacks.
19:36Let's try and steer clear of personal attacks, but make your point, sir, quickly.
19:49I have to sit here and go through the torture of absolute absurd analysis of the data also, which came in from Ashutosh Ji.
19:57Now, I have to point it out because he said, hey, this is not fair.
19:59Sir, one second, okay.
20:03Okay, let's, once again, can I get time out?
20:05You know, what I'm going to do is because I have a timer, I can start putting it on this.
20:08I don't want to support people like him.
20:11Okay, let's, I can say that.
20:13First of all, once again, Rajat Sethi, let's all, okay, let's, let's temper it down.
20:19I did not take his name even once.
20:20Okay, temper it down, sir.
20:21Rajat Sethi can be just getting analysis before you, yeah, before you start seeing any of our panelists, and I would hope, I would hope the same respect is according to you, Rajat.
20:31Move on, Rajat, make your point.
20:32Again, I'm saying, you need, on a national television, you should have the ability to read the charts before you come out on a television and read the charts.
20:42One of the remarks that was made previously was that why is the GST number not higher?
20:46Now, the simple point is that the size of the pie is fixed.
20:49Out of 100 only, you need to divide marks between 370, Digital India, GST, and CAA.
20:56So, of course, people believe that if CAA, if 370 is to be given the maximum mark, so be it.
21:01It doesn't mean that GST was something not appreciated by the people.
21:04That is what I'm saying.
21:05That's an absurd understanding of the data.
21:07Okay, I want to go to Amitabh Tiwani.
21:09Do you want to weigh in?
21:10Let me come, let me come.
21:11Okay, make your point.
21:12We have an adequate time.
21:14Even on the economy front, the problem is that the Congress spokesperson forgot that there is a time value of money.
21:21When you talk about 400 rupees 15 years back, it does not mean 400 rupees today.
21:26Having this basic common sense of time value of money would have had a much more educated debate.
21:31Okay, I'm going to bring in, allow me to now.
21:34Okay, now, I'm going to start, I'm going to bring my timer out.
21:38It's best to start using the timer.
21:40All of us will get one minute each.
21:42Can we pull out the timer?
21:43I'm asking our producers and we will all get there.
21:45You know, Amitabh Tiwani, I want you to come in for an interjection.
21:48It's interesting.
21:53All right, okay.
21:55Okay, time out.
21:56Amitabh Tiwani, can I just get Amitabh Tiwani on the numbers?
22:01Amitabh Tiwani.
22:01Ashutosh Ji and Rajat, let's all temper down a bit.
22:06Temper down, sir.
22:08Both of you.
22:08Gentlemen, please, sir, temper down.
22:10Rajat.
22:10I know what kind of, what kind of spokesman...
22:12Ashutosh, I want to get into Ashutosh.
22:14Can I just get Ashutosh?
22:16I want to bring in Ashutosh.
22:17Ashutosh, do you want to weigh in on the numbers?
22:19That is interesting because especially on how effective has the Modi government been in managing the economy?
22:25Can I get Ashutosh?
22:27Let's just get in Ashutosh.
22:28Can I get Amitabh Tiwani, please?
22:30All right.
22:32Amitabh Tiwani, to bring you on...
22:33Make your point.
22:36If you compare the, let's say, the 10-year growth rates of Manmohan Singh versus the 10-year growth rates of Modi, or if you compare the 10-year average inflation versus the 10-year average inflation or the 11-year average inflation under Modi, these numbers are better compared to the UPA 10-er.
22:55This is what is perhaps getting reflected in the numbers as well, wherein almost three-fourths
23:01of India supporters believe that Modi has managed the economy highly effectively or effectively.
23:06And even amongst the opposition voters, around 58% believe that the performance has been effective
23:13or highly effective.
23:15So the numbers speak for themselves.
23:16Of course, there are issues regarding unemployment, price rise, corruption, which we will see, or perhaps which will come ahead.
23:24But on these parameters, it seems that the government has performed well compared to...
23:29All right.
23:30You know, before I bring in the Congress and the BJP spokesperson, allow me to give in another data point.
23:35And the question that we went to the respondents with was how effective has the Modi government been in addressing the issue of unemployment?
23:45Viewers, election after election by the opposition has been fought on the plank of unemployment.
23:50What do the voters feel?
23:52What is the report card of the Modi government in addressing the issue of unemployment?
23:57Let's quickly get the data.
23:58Highly effective, 32.3% NDA voters.
24:02Now, that's interesting because only three in 10, about three in 10 voters who vote for the NDA government
24:10believe that the Modi government has been effective to address the issue of unemployment.
24:16So that doesn't all go well.
24:17Somewhat effective?
24:19Well, 33%.
24:20So about 60% say it's about somewhat too effective where NDA voters are concerned.
24:25Opposition, 22% feel, just about two in 10 feel that the Modi government has been effective.
24:31Somewhat effective?
24:3221.7%.
24:33Others is interesting.
24:3517.8%.
24:37So is the figure that actually feels that Modi government has addressed unemployment issues.
24:43Somewhat effective?
24:4426.5%.
24:46Now, let's go to highly ineffective and somewhat ineffective.
24:49That's interesting because if you look at the others there who are neither the opposition or the NDA camp,
24:57that figure stands at 27%.
24:59That is nearly about three in 10 who don't vote for the Modi government or the opposition feel
25:05that this government has been completely ineffective in dealing with the issue of unemployment.
25:11R.P. Singh, how do you read these figures?
25:12R.P. Singh, can you hear me?
25:19Just let me put something in perspective.
25:23Yeah, Preeti.
25:24You just now said one third, 10 out of three.
25:28It's not 10 out of three.
25:29I mean, you total it together.
25:31I mean, fact is that someone effective means that yes, people understand that the employment has been generated.
25:37And when so much of infrastructure has been built countrywide, whether it's roads, whether it's railways,
25:44whether it's airports, whether it's infrastructure, otherwise.
25:48So obviously that generates to employment.
25:50And then there are datas to put on record that employment has been generated,
25:52whether the EPA for data or other data is also which tells that yes, employment has been generated.
25:57And then there is a lot of self-reportment which has happened.
26:01Almost 52.5% of people have been given, have taken Muzra original loan.
26:04And if I go by just one person along with, I mean, I'm going just one person to apply another one person.
26:10I mean, almost 100% of people are there on a system.
26:14I mean, when you go and tell a person,
26:16So there's a difference, whether you get a job or you are employed when you do some work or not.
26:28So there's the difference between the issue because it's almost, figures are there.
26:35I mean, as I said, Muzra original loan reflects that.
26:38Okay.
26:38And Ashutosh ji, don't talk about food.
26:41Sorry, a small request to us.
26:45Ashutosh ji, don't talk about food.
26:46I'm going to tell you that the food should be done.
26:49I'm going to tell you that the food should be done.
26:50I'll say, okay.
26:51Rp sing.
26:52Rp sing.
26:52Let's stick to the brief, sir.
26:55No, but if 30%...
26:57Rp is a friend, he can say that.
26:58Okay.
26:59Rp is a friend, he can say that, but Rajat is not a friend.
27:02Rajat Kirat say that.
27:03We let this rest.
27:07Everyone, you know, take it down a notch.
27:09But Nikad, I want to bring you in on this.
27:11But Rp sing, you said that it's not 3 out of 10.
27:14But if 30% of the people who vote for the NDA have said that, you know,
27:20that the Modi government has been able to address employment,
27:22so one would read it that 3 out of 10 people feel that.
27:25Rp, as I told you, if you ask...
27:29Sir, you can't cherry pick data, unemployment data.
27:33Sir, you're saying that economy data perfect is.
27:35No, no, no.
27:35The rest of the data are perfect is.
27:37No, no.
27:37I'm going to...
27:38No, no.
27:39I'm going to...
27:39No, no.
27:41No, no.
27:41No, no.
27:43No.
27:43No.
27:43No.
27:44No.
27:45No.
27:46No.
27:47No.
27:48No.
27:49No.
27:50No.
27:51No.
27:52No.
27:53No.
27:54No.
27:55No.
27:56No.
27:57No.
28:03No.
28:03No.
28:05No.
28:05Whatever the data is, you can criticize, you know, the data.
28:09But you can't pick one over the other.
28:14There's a problem there.
28:15But Nikat Abbas, I want to bring you in.
28:16Because yes.
28:17Her question.
28:19No.
28:20No.
28:21No.
28:21No.
28:21No.
28:21How do you put a question?
28:23No.
28:23No.
28:24No.
28:24No.
28:25No.
28:25No.
28:25No.
28:26No.
28:26No.
28:27No.
28:27Give me a second.
28:28Sir, the problem is I need to get the counter in this.
28:30Yes, make your quick point.
28:31Ten seconds.
28:33One second, Dedi, your request.
28:34One second, Dedi, your counter in this.
28:35First, I'll do a whole thing, please.
28:37Now, you've asked 370, Distant India, Make-In-India, CA.
28:41Recall is the thing, people have a lot of recall.
28:44People still have a better recall on 370.
28:47All right, okay, sir, allow me to bring in the Congress counter, Pa.
28:49Nikhat, Nikhat.
28:52R.P. Singh, okay, from now on, we're pulling the one-minute counter for all other interjections.
28:55Everybody will get one minute each.
28:57Nikhat Abbas, make your point.
28:59Unemployment data, interesting, but look at the one where the economy is concerned,
29:03where even 37.4% of your own voters say that the Modi government has done a stellar job.
29:12See, I don't want to comment on the data from where you've gotten, Preeti,
29:16but what perfection looks like for BJP is like they import the crude oil from Russia
29:20at the rate of 26 rupees per litre, but they sell in India at the rate of 103 rupees per litre.
29:26I mean, that is the mathematics only BJP supporters allies and also BJP can explain.
29:30And when I was talking about the last, I'd like to start it from there,
29:33the master strokes, like 370, abrogation of Article 370, bringing in of the CAA and also the demonetization.
29:39It was Narendra Modi who had said that he would eliminate the black money, the terrorism and the illegal immigrants from India.
29:46But after that also we have the Pulwama, we have the Pahlgam, we have the Pathankot, we have the Uri, we have the Riyasi.
29:52And not even a single tear has been shed from the eyes of Narendra Modi.
29:55And not to forget that how China has invaded in our country 20 soldiers martyred.
29:59Despite of that fact, not even once Narendra Modi has condemned the act of China.
30:04I don't know what, you know, what kind of settlement Narendra Modi has signed with the country like China
30:10that he can't speak a word against them.
30:12And also not to forget lately, the development after the operations, allow me for 10 seconds, very important.
30:17The CPAC, the CPAC, you know, the establishment and they want to extend towards Afghanistan through POK.
30:24I mean, that is something that is not just economics, that is a political threat to India.
30:29And there is a non-native single single point in which India's government has had nationally, not even single response.
30:36Nikat Abbas, allow me to move on.
30:37We are going to take three quick questions in because we've wasted a fair amount of time and I want to pack in as much data.
30:42So, our next set of data comes in with the question, has the Modi government promoted social harmony?
30:50Ashutosh, this was a sticking point.
30:51We want to bring in Amitabh Tiwari as well, who thought this could be problematic.
30:55This is what the data says.
30:57Now, Modi voters, NDA voters says to a great extent that the Modi government has promoted social harmony.
31:03Once again, 37.6% opposition voters say that the government has been key in promoting social harmony to a great extent.
31:1135.7% of others, which neither fall into the NDA and opposition, say that the government has promoted social harmony.
31:19To some extent, 20% NDA voters, 13.5% opposition voters, others 16.2%.
31:28And Amitabh Tiwari, I want to pull you in because one might look at not at all at 23% to the opposition and others at 25, nearly 26%.
31:38But nearly 50% of opposition, I'm not even looking at the NDA voters, 50% of opposition voters and nearly 50% of others actually seem to suggest in our survey that the government has promoted social harmony effectively.
31:55Yeah, so this is what is the difference between an opinion and data.
32:00So, your data suggests that even 50% of the opposition voters believe that the Modi government has promoted social harmony.
32:08And I think more than 70% believe from the NDA that it has promoted social harmony.
32:14So, that is the data, while what I was speaking about is that the polarization in the society has increased, may not necessarily be at the behest of the Modi government, but it is just that the people themselves have hardened their stance for the last 10-11 years on various issues.
32:29But if you say opposition, it is 50-50 largely, if you include neutral, it is 50-50, while on the NDA side, it is 70-30 to be precise.
32:39But even for the opposition, others to suggest is 50-50 is actually not a bad report card on social harmony where the government is concerned.
32:47I want to bring in the next set of datas and Ashutosh, you can weigh in on the social harmony figures as well.
32:52And I would think Rajat would also want to come in on that.
32:54But let's take you through.
32:55On the next data point, Modi government's performance in countering terrorism.
33:00Now, what do the survey suggest with our respondents when this question was posed?
33:06Well, the NDA voters seem to suggest nearly 70%, 69.8% that the government has been excellent in countering terrorism.
33:13Once again, 37.7% opposition voters feel that the government has been excellent in countering terrorism.
33:20Others, 45.7% and that's the game of what others seem to suggest here, viewers.
33:25Because if you look at excellent and good, then you have nearly 60% of others who seem to suggest that the government has done a good or an excellent job at countering terrorism.
33:37On the other front, nearly 50% again of opposition voters seem to suggest that the government has done, if not a good, then an excellent job in countering terrorism.
33:48So, once again, doesn't quite really need to look at the NDA figures.
33:52So, that is the data point on television.
33:55Now, let's take the other set.
33:57The Modi government's performance in handling corruption.
33:59Let's get that set of piece of data that in that excellent, 33.6% of NDA opposition, 29.9%, others 23.8%.
34:13Good, 23.3% NDA opposition, 11.8%, others 19.5%.
34:20And very poor, 7.2% NDA, 18.4% opposition voters and 20% others.
34:26Ashutosh, want to weigh in on that?
34:30Because if you look at, on the marker of social harmony, it doesn't look so bad.
34:3650% of opposition and other voters actually seem to suggest that the government's done, at least, if not to some extent, then a great extent in promoting social harmony.
34:45Countering terrorism, if you look at that figure, then nearly 50% of opposition voters feel that the government's done a good, if not an excellent job in doing so.
34:54See, Priti, in terms of the social harmony, I think that's the biggest anomaly in this data itself.
34:59And I will not rest my case over here.
35:01Because anybody you ask on the street, you will get the answer.
35:05Anybody, anybody you ask, except somebody is not from the BJP or somebody not from the RSS.
35:10So, it's very crystal clear.
35:11The one disruption which the country has seen since 2014 is basically in terms of the social harmony.
35:17So much, so much chaos, so much bitterness, so much hatred is all around, you can feel it, even within your family and outside the family.
35:24On the issue of terrorism, yes, I completely agree with the data.
35:28And I give this government at least 7 out of 10.
35:31On countering terrorism, the government has done a good job, there is no doubt about it.
35:35And the data itself speak, and the number of terrorist activities which has happened since 2014 is good enough for anybody to believe.
35:42This is not like from 1999 to 2011.
35:48At that point of time, whether in Gujarat or in any place, the bombs were happening over there.
35:55The parliament was attacked.
35:5726, 9 did happen, the blast in the trains happened, the blast in almost every city happened.
36:04So, there is a good job, and on that issue, I'll give this government 7 out of 10 on the countering terrorism.
36:12All right, okay.
36:13Rajat Sethi, you want to come in and weigh in on that?
36:15Because interesting figure there, though, you know, without commenting on Ashutosh,
36:19where, of course, he feels that on the marker of social harmony, he feels this data is an anomaly,
36:25but he completely agrees where terrorism is concerned.
36:28Of course, the corruption, how the government has handled corruption is once again, you know,
36:33the government could do better in that, where the data comes into question.
36:36I mean, coming to the corruption front, I am telling you, the retail level, corruption is still intact.
36:42At the state level, municipality level, the corruption hasn't changed.
36:45It is at the policy level where we are seeing complete eradication of any kind of wheeling dealing
36:51that India was so used to during the UPA days.
36:53And I think that is where the corruption would have come down to zero.
36:58But it is at this retail level where the bureaucratic changes, and this was my opening remark,
37:03the administrative changes that should have been there didn't happen.
37:05And on the social front, let me tell you, you know, it's very easy to replace statistics with anecdotes
37:11and live in an anecdotal world where you believe all the anecdotes,
37:15the posters that are spread around you and pasted around you is the reality.
37:18You have to go and rely to the data.
37:21You cannot attack the messenger.
37:22If people are saying something, open your understanding around it, understand why the people feel.
37:28One possibility is that if you look at communal incidents,
37:32the number of killings or deaths or events of communal incidents happening in the UPA days versus the NDA days,
37:38you will see a steep decline in those communal events.
37:42And that is a clear marker.
37:43In Delhi, you cannot form opinions sitting in a studio.
37:46You need to go out, see, count those numbers, and NCRB does a fantastic job.
37:51When it is data, you need to look at those alternative data to arrive at what is public thinking,
37:55what is my NCRB data thinking, and making sense of all of this,
37:59instead of living in a la la la where everything is only data.
38:01Allow me to, allow me, Raja, to bring in the, you know, next to, I know, allow me, Nikat, I don't have the time.
38:06I will come to you.
38:07Let me give out, you know, a bit of more data points.
38:09And right after that, I come both to Mr. R.P. Singh and to Nikat Abbas and, of course, Amitabh Tiwari as well.
38:14Now, to what extent has the Modi government controlled inflation?
38:18This is interesting, viewers.
38:18Because NDA supporters, only 3 out of 10, and R.P. Singh is going to have a problem with that,
38:26only 3 out of 10 say that the government's done a great job.
38:30To some extent, 31.6%, again, 3 out of 10.
38:34Opposition, 22.8% only feel that the government has done a great job.
38:40What is interesting here is others, 19.5%.
38:42To some extent, the others feel 23.8% that the government's done a decent job in controlling inflation.
38:48Opposition, 14.7%.
38:50Not at all is the figure that you need to watch out for, where even, what, 14.6% NDA supporters have said
38:57that the government has fared terribly on this marker.
39:01Opposition, 36.5% and 26.5% others feel the same.
39:07Now, let's move on to the next set of graphics that are coming in
39:11with the question that was posed to our respondents.
39:15Has the Modi government policies enhanced our global standing?
39:19Now, this, the NDA voters, nearly 71.5% of them feel yes, enhanced a lot,
39:27where 13.9% of them feel somewhat enhanced.
39:30Opposition voters of nearly 41.2% feel that the government's done a great job in doing so.
39:37And some, enhanced somewhat, 50.4%.
39:39This is coming in from the opposition.
39:41So, nearly over 50% of voters actually feel, Nikhat Abbas, and I'll come to you on this,
39:47that the government has done a stellar job when it comes down, or stellar, yeah, stellar job
39:52if it comes down to enhancing our global standing.
39:55That's more than 50% of your voters.
39:57Let's go into a third set of data, and then we'll go across to our panelists.
40:04Role of opposition parties.
40:06How has opposition fared in all of this?
40:08Highly constructive, 21.1% NDA voters.
40:12Opposition, 33.6%.
40:14Others, 23.2%.
40:16Completely ineffective.
40:1812.2% NDA voters.
40:20Opposition, 16.9%.
40:22Others, 16.8%.
40:25This is an interesting data point, and I'm one by one giving out all the points,
40:29and we're going to save the big question for the last.
40:32But the other data point we want to give out right there,
40:35when the question was posed to respondents,
40:39has bagging less seats impacted Modi 3.0 decision-making,
40:43significantly less dynamic?
40:45And that is nearly 32% of NDA voters who feel that the government has been impacted
40:56because where decision-making is concerned,
40:59and that has blunted its decision-making because it had less number of seats.
41:0330.1% of opposition feels that, and others 22.2%.
41:08Slightly less dynamic, 24.9%.
41:12So, there was over 50% of NDA supporters feel that bagging less seats
41:18has blunted the government on the marker of decision-making.
41:23So, interesting data points there.
41:25Nikita Abbas, you can pick a few, and then you can lose a few,
41:28especially when it comes down to inflation, to decision-making.
41:32But look at the figures where enhanced global standing.
41:35You say that India is doing terribly where, you know, global standing is concerned.
41:4155% of your voters, Nikita Abbas, feel that India has done,
41:44that the government has done a great job in that.
41:50Priti, excuse me, but I don't go by India Today's data.
41:53But what I see, what I have seen lately, G7 summit,
41:56we were dropped off under Modi's government.
41:58And what we've seen after Operation Sundar and also the Pahlgaam attack,
42:01that India has gotten no support from America or China.
42:04The only support is we've gotten from very few countries
42:07and maximum support was gotten for the Pakistan.
42:10I mean, we've seen the IMF funding, talk about the ADB,
42:12talk about other banks have been giving loans to Pakistan.
42:14I mean, this is how India have been treated, talking about China,
42:17who's literally said that we stand for the soil of Pakistan.
42:21And also, I mean, let me just say that if everything was so good since 11 years
42:24and everything was so hunky-dory,
42:26why is that Narendra Modi ji hasn't done a single press conference, I want to know?
42:29Why is he so scared or is he just used to the fabricated questions thrown to him
42:33as per, you know, some few journalists, I'm not counting you on that.
42:37But yeah, what is the reason that he cannot just come and, you know,
42:40talk to the people, talk to the media and address the nation?
42:43When he can do man ki baat, what is the problem for him
42:45to be able to conduct a press conference,
42:47at least after what has happened lately, after Operation Sindur,
42:50after Pahlgaam, after our people died,
42:52and after what Trump has been saying 11 times that, you know,
42:54he mediated or dug the ceasefire and he has been threatening us
42:57on the basis of trade.
42:58So when we talk about the global image,
43:00I don't think so the self-claimed Vishwaguru is actually a Vishwaguru,
43:03but also I really think that he's a diplomatic...
43:06What's really interesting is because this has come out to be
43:08the most contested data.
43:10Nikad Abbas, you could have actually, you know,
43:12bolstered your attack on the figures of inflation and decision-making,
43:16but you chose to defend the figures of, you know,
43:19how our global standing is under the government over the last nine years,
43:22but that's your call.
43:23No, the inflation I said in my first segment,
43:25that the food inflation is 12% the highest in the last few years.
43:27That's my point.
43:27That was my point with R.P. Singh,
43:29that you cannot pick one data over the other
43:31and say you agree with one piece of information and not the other.
43:34This is what the respondents, you know, answered.
43:38If you agree with it, then you have to take it in totality.
43:40If you don't agree with it,
43:41then you can just say that I don't believe in this data.
43:43But I want to go back to R.P. Singh.
43:45And R.P. Singh,
43:46would you want to now choose to reflect on the figures of inflation
43:51because that doesn't all go well where the government standing is concerned
43:55or on the marker of decision-making
43:57because clearly 55% over of your own voters,
44:01the NDA voters feel that, you know,
44:04because you have less seats,
44:06decision-making has been hugely impacted.
44:07Well, Trithi, before I answer that,
44:14let me just clarify one thing.
44:17I mean, your team went,
44:18your complete team,
44:20I mean, if I don't know,
44:21six of them,
44:22six of you went to Prime Minister Modi
44:24and did a complete interview,
44:25grilled him for everything.
44:27I mean, I don't understand
44:28what does the Nikat or the congressman,
44:32why do they keep chanting that
44:33PM doesn't meet the media?
44:35And if he says that your colleagues
44:38were doing some sweet, sweet job,
44:41then I mean,
44:42just you between you and her to decide,
44:44the congress and you to decide,
44:45your channel to decide
44:46what sort of questions were asked.
44:49But coming back to the subject of inflation
44:51and coming back to the subject of global rating,
44:54I don't understand.
44:56I mean,
44:57why there is so much of problem with congress
44:59on the global rating of the Modi Red government?
45:05We all know that everyone in the world
45:09talks about Prime Minister Modi
45:11and in his policies.
45:13I'll give you one example
45:13and that will clarify.
45:15In Obama's book,
45:16he has written that
45:17that after 26-11,
45:19when Mohan Singh was,
45:21he asked,
45:21why did you retaliate back on Pakistan?
45:25He said,
45:26oh,
45:26because there could have been
45:28a wave of nationalism in India
45:30and that could have benefited
45:31the BJP
45:34or the right-wing parties.
45:36Give me a second, please.
45:37So,
45:37this clearly shows
45:38that even how do people abroad
45:41will take you
45:42that you are trying to do politics
45:44even on issue of national security.
45:46R.P. Singh,
45:47I want to give out the last final figure
45:48and I want to give each one of you
45:5015 seconds each
45:51because that's all the time
45:52that I have for now.
45:53So,
45:53the last final figure
45:54and that's what it all comes down to viewers
45:56because you can look at all the markers
45:57that we've shown you
45:58of how the respondents feel
46:01in terms of the Modi governance
46:02and his NDA government performance
46:04of 11 years.
46:06It'll come down to one main marker.
46:08Should Modi continue
46:10as Prime Minister
46:11beyond 2029?
46:1473.9%,
46:16nearly 74%
46:17NDA voters feel yes,
46:19nearly 46.1%
46:21opposition voters feel yes,
46:23others 46.8%
46:25feel yes,
46:26no,
46:2714.7%,
46:2814.2%,
46:2929%
46:31others say no.
46:32I want to quickly bring in
46:34all our panelists
46:35for a quick word in
46:36because Amitabh Diwari,
46:37if this is the report card
46:39after 11 years
46:40on an incumbent Prime Minister,
46:42he hasn't fared too badly
46:43as per this survey.
46:45No, no,
46:46clearly it shows that
46:47there is no opposition
46:48or no leader
46:49who can match his charisma
46:51or achievements.
46:52There are two main issues,
46:54corruption and inflation.
46:56Main pole planks of Modi
46:57when he came to power in 2014.
46:59However,
46:59on these two parameters,
47:01it seems that
47:02the numbers are very tight
47:03and the government
47:03needs to work hard.
47:05On the aspect of global standing,
47:07I think the numbers
47:08always continue to be high,
47:09but we have to compare
47:10with last year's numbers
47:11given the controversy
47:14around the ceasefire
47:15whether this number
47:16has actually increased or...
47:17Okay, Ashutosh,
47:19very quickly, sir,
47:1930 seconds each.
47:24You're on mute, sir.
47:25Mute, mute.
47:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:26Yeah.
47:27See, Preeti,
47:27if I had believed
47:29the data which was given
47:30on the eve of 2024
47:32parliamentary election,
47:33by now,
47:34the Prime Minister
47:34and Rwanda Modi
47:35would have 400
47:36members of parliament
47:36in the BJP itself.
47:38So, data has its own limitation
47:41and he would have
47:42won by 10 lakh votes
47:43in the Banaras itself
47:44where he struggled to win
47:46and that too
47:47when Mr. Amit Shah
47:48has to sit in Banaras
47:49for at least
47:50for the two days.
47:51The issue is very simple.
47:52Today, India
47:53at the foreign policy level
47:54is the loneliest
47:55in the world.
47:56Even the Russia
47:57is not with us
47:58with whom we bought
47:59the cheapest
48:00at the food oil
48:02when Russia was really neat.
48:04Okay, so Ashutosh,
48:05you're contesting this data.
48:0620 seconds, Rajat.
48:08This data is
48:09the most contested data
48:10I have ever done
48:11a PSE on.
48:12Go ahead, Rajat.
48:13Make your point.
48:14I just feel, you know,
48:15this data is a mirror
48:16to the opposition.
48:18Instead of finding
48:19constant flaws
48:20in Prime Minister Modi
48:22and his style of functioning,
48:23improve yourself.
48:25If you feel
48:25that there is a vacuum
48:26in governance,
48:27fill that vacuum
48:28by creating
48:29an alternate model.
48:30All right, 10 seconds,
48:31Nikhat.
48:31I'm sorry, I'm coming in.
48:32They will never do that.
48:34Okay, 10 seconds, Nikhat.
48:3510 seconds, RPC.
48:36That's all you have.
48:37One line, ma'am.
48:41You know, surprisingly,
48:42all the flaws
48:43are in the opposition
48:44and probably,
48:45which is why ED and CBI
48:46takes it around
48:46only to the opposition leaders.
48:48But, but,
48:49the moment the opposition leader
48:50joined the Bharti Janata Party,
48:52it's all washed off.
48:53He's also clean.
48:54He's also set to,
48:55you know,
48:56lead the nation.
48:57I mean,
48:57that's exactly the hypocrisy
48:58what BJP has to show.
48:59But you also contest the data.
49:00That's what you mean to say.
49:01All right, okay.
49:02RPC in 10 seconds, sir.
49:03From the government agencies.
49:06Okay, RPC in 10 seconds.
49:07I need to close this.
49:08Very state.
49:11Very state,
49:11four points.
49:12Afflippment of poor,
49:14corruption-free government,
49:16economy doing good,
49:17and then national security,
49:19the biggest concern.
49:20But RPC,
49:21the points you've picked on
49:23are the ones
49:24where it's done the worst
49:24in this data point.
49:25But if you look all in all,
49:27net net viewers,
49:28this is not a bad report card
49:29after 11 years.
49:30Actually,
49:30it's a pretty good one
49:31if you go by this data.
49:34And like I said,
49:34of all the five
49:35who are sitting on this
49:36television screen,
49:37other than Amitabh Tawari,
49:38each one of them
49:39have contested this data
49:40at some point.
49:40Even Ranjit Sethi
49:41hasn't actually.
49:42A quick break.
49:43No, you haven't.
49:43I said you haven't.
49:44Okay, a quick break.
49:45We're going to leave it at that.
49:46Until the next set of data
49:49rolls in,
49:49this is where it stands right now.
49:51It's thumbs up
49:52for the Modi government
49:53after 11 years.