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Director George C. Wolfe on How He Knew Audra McDonald Would be Perfect for 'Gypsy' | Tony Awards 2025
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6/9/2025
Director George C. Wolfe talks about the excitement he feels for the success of 'Gypsy' while chatting with THR at the 2025 Tony Awards. Plus, he discusses how he knew Audra McDonald would be the perfect fit for the character Rose.
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Congratulations on all the success of Gypsy.
00:03
How special is it going into tonight with that in hand?
00:07
I'm full of incredible joy and pride because, you know, I adore Audra.
00:12
I adore Joy. I adore Danny. I adore Camille.
00:15
I adore the entire cast, and I'm very proud of them.
00:17
And so it's been just a – it was – Audra asked me about three or four years ago to direct it,
00:24
and finally our schedules aligned, and so it happened.
00:28
Talk to me about bringing this iteration to life
00:30
and how this revival sort of sets itself apart from previous productions.
00:34
Well, you don't think about what's come before.
00:35
You just go digging into the material, and it's so brilliantly crafted.
00:40
And I – it was so interesting to me.
00:41
The most interesting thing to me is when this show first appeared in 1959,
00:46
they called Rose a monster. A lot of the critics did.
00:50
And I wonder if they called her a monster because she said,
00:53
done with marriage, done with that, I'm going out on my own.
00:56
And I'm going to make sure my daughters are having a better life.
00:59
And you know what I mean?
01:00
So that term monster is so relative to 1959 versus now where women do that all the time.
01:07
And I grew up around women who win.
01:09
No.
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I'm not playing by your rules because if I play by your rules, I'll lose.
01:13
So let me make my own.
01:15
And so it was a chance to celebrate that and do it with a brilliant artist like Audra.
01:19
And what makes Audra the perfect rose for you?
01:22
Well, she's just a – she's just this interesting, complicated combination,
01:27
but not really complicated, of ferocity and heart.
01:31
Ferocity and heart.
01:33
And her heart is as large as her drive as an artist
01:38
and her determination to bring truth for everything she does.
01:41
This has also been such a thrilling season for Broadway.
01:44
A lot of people have commented on that.
01:46
What makes that, for both of you, such a thrilling season for Broadway?
01:49
What – say that again, I'm sorry?
01:51
It's been such a thrilling season.
01:53
Why do you think that is?
01:54
Well, because it's – anytime there's a collision of different styles,
01:58
if it's all one tone, who cares?
02:00
If it's all silly or if it's all serious,
02:02
it's when it's this next to that next to that and they don't match at all.
02:06
And that's what makes it – because it feels like New York City
02:08
and it feels like America and it feels like the world.
02:11
And when we talk about, you know, getting rid of things,
02:13
you don't get rid of everything.
02:14
You put them next to each other and they make everything else shine even more.
02:18
I just think that what's going on in the country,
02:21
it's a chance for people all around the world to come together
02:25
and sit in a theater and have an experience together
02:27
and just be a part of each other.
02:29
And I think that's a beautiful thing
02:31
and I think that's why people are gravitating to the theater
02:33
outside of the amazing talent that's on the boards.
02:36
Absolutely.
02:42
Okay.
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