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  • 6/5/2025
Tobin and Leroy talk about a fake Ja Morant trade to the Heat by Bleacher Report.

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00:00saw an interesting uh john morant mock draft or mock trade today this can i just say this
00:07pretty fair deal can i just say this i'm gonna say this i don't want to sound crazy
00:13but i'm gonna say
00:19you i have a feeling okay that if ja ended up here
00:39yeah that and hear me out i'm not saying the same issues
00:48but i think it would play out like deshaun watson really for this reason
00:55you're sitting here trying to dismiss or disregard all of the immature things this guy has done
01:06and every time we've done that in any sport and think like we could fix them right oh it's different
01:15here oh he got where he wanted to be oh he just wanted to be out of that situation they continue
01:21to do the same stuff antonio brown right like i just he seems like a very immature person i will i will
01:32i'm not did you the trade to get him here that means he would have to fall in line with the bams
01:40and the tyler trade though can i give you the trade let me give you the fake trade i saw this
01:44today on uh heat cultures twitter you can't call it a fake trade and you're bringing it up like
01:48this is what the so wait beforehand yeah would you do it don't don't play middle i have to go i have
01:55to go don't i have to say whether i do it i think i'd do it i think i'd do it go i think i'd do it go
02:00let me see if i can call you an idiot the miami heat receive jama rant the grizzlies
02:09would get andrew wiggins
02:13nikola jovich
02:17jaime
02:19pella
02:21and a 2029 first round pick and a 2031 first round swap
02:28absolutely not why because john doesn't move the needle enough
02:37to miss those four guys
02:40you think like the only guy that's painful to me is nico everybody else
02:47like i hate to lose pelly you know i'm a huge pella guy too much stuff
02:52i say yeah too much stuff jukebox too much it's a lot of stuff though okay so what is your starting
03:01five gonna look like okay in that case all right so backcourt is tyler and ja
03:09uh you got you still keep kalal in this case so you got your front court of
03:16where bam
03:17need a three
03:19probably needed to be another shooter
03:22so maybe dunks
03:23keep dunks out there that's a very bad defensive uh
03:26front out there
03:28could go haywood highsmith
03:30maybe key shot johnson still annoyed that thomas bryan has a chance to win a championship
03:37why
03:38i like him
03:39i like him
03:40i'm just saying i want like
03:42he couldn't work out here
03:44for a 10 seed
03:45okay
03:48he
03:48he didn't work out here for a 10 seed because
03:51they were going to play the rookie
03:52and
03:54like he didn't play very much
03:56okay
03:57i got you
03:58good for him
03:59good for him
03:59i'm happy for him
04:00i'm happy for him
04:01do you think he would have been the difference between
04:03them
04:04no
04:04he would have been the same
04:05same difference as
04:07ja would make after trading all the youngins
04:10it's not all the youngins
04:11we keep where
04:12you say you don't want to trade where
04:14smoe doesn't even like where
04:15he's gonna play dude
04:17and now you got somebody who can get him lobs
04:19dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks
04:22dunks dunks dunks
04:22you are so
04:23one pick one swap
04:25pella and nico
04:27question
04:28out of curiosity
04:30yeah
04:30what do you think that his defensive rating would be with those five on the floor
04:34i don't know but what would their offensive rating be
04:36pretty good
04:37nobody shoots
04:38like
04:39what
04:40tyler can shoot
04:40that's a terrible trade
04:48it's not a terrible trade
04:49for a guy that you still have questions about
04:52you have questions
04:54you have questions
04:55i don't want to give
04:57wait wait wait wait
04:58i am not giving up
05:01that much
05:02for a guy
05:04that the league still has questions
05:06okay
05:06you have
05:07in this trade
05:08you would lose your sixth man
05:10in nikola jovic
05:13not gonna start with the heat
05:13you would lose andrew wiggins
05:15your starting three
05:16which
05:17i hate the fact that
05:22i you know what
05:23you don't want to be here
05:23i hate the fact
05:25that
05:25people go through life changes
05:28and sports fans
05:30could give a rat's ass
05:31right
05:33like that
05:34why are we so insensitive
05:35like that guy
05:37like
05:38yeah he had a rough year dude
05:40okay
05:40so like
05:42okay
05:42yeah yeah
05:43it's
05:43like
05:44man
05:45what
05:45i just think that's cruel
05:47it's cruel
05:48yeah
05:48he's fine dude
05:50he's walking
05:51you don't know he's fine
05:53he's gonna have a great time in memphis
05:54he's walking in memphis
05:57it's closer to canada
06:01what
06:05you are
06:06what dude
06:07the shadiest
06:08sports fan ever
06:10that's not fair
06:12you support your players
06:13and the guys on your team
06:15until something else shows up
06:17i gotta trade nico
06:18i'm heartbroken over it
06:19don't sound like it
06:21you just did the
06:22dunks dunks
06:22dunks dunks
06:23dunks dunks
06:24dunks
06:24no
06:25come on
06:26i'm very worried about john
06:28i don't understand
06:29what's like
06:30you've heard some of the stuff
06:32that
06:33wiggins went through
06:35before he came here
06:37right
06:38and you have
06:39zero sympathy for that man
06:41the human part of it
06:43forget the basketball player
06:45the human aspect of
06:47none
06:48to where you think this guy
06:50is done
06:51bye
06:51he sucked for us
06:53the short time he was here
06:54he don't want to be here
06:55bye
06:56wait how did you
06:58can figure that out
06:58and you know everything that
07:00and so you just chalk it up to
07:02no
07:03he doesn't want to be here
07:04he's here
07:04he's here
07:05it's fine
07:05it's not like he's my most
07:06hated heat player of all time
07:08but it just kind of represents
07:10where everybody's like
07:10he didn't
07:11he didn't expect to be here
07:12he loved being in golden state
07:13he got dropped off
07:14he's wearing jimmy butler's
07:15number
07:16he then all of a sudden
07:17got injured for the first
07:18time in his career
07:19when he was here
07:20he'd give you like
07:21one good quarter
07:22wasn't a great time dude
07:23seems like a perfectly
07:24nice individual
07:25i think it's just best
07:26for both parties to
07:27already
07:28after like two months
07:29two months
07:31let's go
07:32you don't think that
07:33that could be
07:34if i'm getting jaw
07:34who's more dependable
07:38jaw
07:39you think jaw's more
07:41dependable than wiggins
07:42he's a better player
07:42i'm not disputing that
07:44he's more dependable
07:44as a better player
07:45he's a better player
07:46yes
07:46agreed
07:47he's more dependable
07:48as well
07:48okay
07:48what are we talking about
07:49how are you going to be
07:50dependable if you've got
07:51all this stuff around
07:52would i trust andrew
07:53wiggins to cross a grandma
07:54across the street
07:55and not get distracted
07:56by something
07:56yes
07:57okay
07:59ja morant
07:59he'd probably do gimmicks
08:01and make grandma like
08:02do celebrations
08:03throw fake hand grenades
08:04yeah
08:04okay
08:05finger guns
08:06or real guns
08:08if i needed somebody
08:09we got a regular
08:10gilbert arenas
08:11coming here
08:12if i needed somebody
08:13to watch tommy for an hour
08:14i'd pick andrew wiggins
08:15okay
08:16because otherwise
08:18tommy's probably like
08:18get get get get
08:19get get
08:20you'll come home
08:23and say
08:23dad
08:24dad
08:24hit this
08:25andrew wiggins
08:30seems very responsible
08:31okay
08:31very responsible
08:32but i don't
08:33i don't need responsibility
08:34i need responsibilities
08:35out the window
08:36here's the thing
08:37i don't know why
08:42life
08:43eludes athletes
08:47right
08:48regardless of what you think
08:51of athletes
08:51and being pros
08:52or whatever
08:53they're people
08:54and they have
08:55they go through
08:56things that
08:59we all go through
09:00but they live under
09:02this spotlight
09:02and for some reason
09:05we're so very
09:06dismissive
09:07you're dismissive
09:08of jaw
09:08um
09:09there's a difference
09:11there's a difference
09:11in what andrew wiggins
09:13went through
09:14and what jaw
09:15has done to himself
09:17they're out to get him
09:19really
09:21league doesn't care
09:23about anybody
09:23somebody say
09:24hey josh
09:24show that gun
09:25that's a bad friend
09:26that's not his fault
09:27or
09:27or hey jaw
09:29let's lock and load her
09:31next time we make a three
09:32right
09:34come on
09:35that's it
09:35hey come on
09:36throw in the grenade
09:37that's a great celebration
09:38if he would have
09:39jumped on the floor
09:40and covered his ears
09:40now the one thing
09:41we have to
09:41we have
09:42he does cover the ears
09:44as he runs
09:45um
09:46the one thing i'll say
09:47though
09:47he's got to apologize
09:49to kalal
09:49for calling him a pigeon
09:51gotta apologize
09:55i mean
09:55the whole league
09:56has got a lot of
09:57probably remember
09:58what they did
09:58to poor tyler
09:59oh
10:00it's gonna be good
10:03for tyler too
10:04how
10:04they're gonna be
10:05a great
10:05dynamic duo
10:06no you know why
10:07here's why it's gonna be
10:08great for tyler
10:09cause tyler's gonna say
10:11y'all talking about
10:13my defense
10:14have i
10:14let me introduce you
10:15to jaw
10:16yeah but they're gonna be
10:16they're gonna be
10:17in a dynamic
10:18backcourt duo
10:19yeah they say
10:20wiggins was
10:21was on a milk carton
10:22for weeks
10:23so it was bam
10:24who was
10:26they said wiggins
10:27goes on a milk carton
10:29for weeks
10:30no like he
10:31like
10:32i mean
10:33it wasn't a great
10:34tenure
10:35it wasn't a great
10:35run
10:36yeah but it was
10:36like
10:37three months
10:38yeah
10:39like you don't
10:40give it
10:41felt like six
10:41man
10:45i just
10:45i just think i have
10:47a little more
10:47compassion
10:48for what humans
10:50go through
10:51than you do
10:52you can care less
10:54your only compassion
10:55cares
10:55if this guy
10:56is producing
10:57for my team
10:58i love him
10:58if he's not
10:59he's a bum
11:00get him out
11:00of here
11:01not fair
11:01angel wiggins
11:02is a good
11:03player
11:03he's a good
11:05player
11:05right
11:06i need a great
11:07player
11:07no but not
11:08to play his
11:09you still need
11:10good players
11:10too
11:11what is
11:12job
11:13job being
11:14here with
11:14wiggins is
11:15a lot better
11:16than job
11:16without wiggins
11:17i would agree
11:17but not a gift
11:18to get
11:18and you think
11:20you're giving
11:21him wiggins
11:21yeah
11:22well wiggins
11:23nico
11:23pella
11:24no absolutely
11:25i'm not giving
11:26all my youth
11:26the last thing
11:27i want to do
11:28is get old
11:28it's not all
11:29your youth
11:29we get this
11:30year's pick
11:31so we'll have
11:31a new rookie
11:32coming in
11:32we got
11:33key shot
11:34johnson
11:34stepping up
11:35we lose
11:37pella
11:37pella
11:38hurts
11:38i mean
11:40i guess
11:41what
11:42i'm like
11:47no
11:48i don't
11:48understand
11:49how you
11:49just have
11:50who
11:50okay
11:51so would
11:51you trade
11:51wiggins
11:52for kd
11:52come on
11:57what
11:57hold on
11:58yes
12:00because
12:02he's mature
12:03no
12:03because i know
12:05what i'm getting
12:05i know i'm gonna
12:07get a guy who's
12:07gonna play ball
12:08i know for the
12:09next couple years
12:10you're gonna get
12:11whatever kd has
12:12to offer even
12:13though he's a
12:13curmudgeon
12:14right
12:15and like
12:17i can i can
12:18live with that
12:18right
12:20but
12:21i'm not
12:22gonna trade
12:24four guys
12:26for a guy
12:27you have
12:27no idea
12:28what he's
12:29gonna be like
12:29you only play five
12:30what's the difference
12:31baby
12:31you only play five
12:33he didn't play
12:34last year
12:35pella gets
12:35very few minutes
12:36so
12:37so
12:38there's a couple
12:39of people
12:39that
12:41i'm not saying
12:42they can deal
12:43with it
12:43can't deal
12:44with it
12:44but i have
12:45questions about
12:46how they handle
12:47astron
12:47that's fair
12:49zion and
12:50ja
12:51zion's not
12:52going anywhere
12:52no one's
12:53building around
12:54them
12:54that's what
12:55they said
12:56that's what
12:56joe newbar
12:56says
12:57okay
12:58great
12:58what

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