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Summer House Season 9 Episode 17

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00:00Hello, hello.
00:01I feel like I'm in a dreamlike state.
00:03Wes, did you give yourself some affirmations?
00:06I have notes.
00:07You do? Oh, my God.
00:08It says, like, talk on it.
00:12You turned your phone off for, like, two weeks.
00:15He took that as, like, me trying to shut him out,
00:17when in reality I'm, like, spiraling.
00:20And then I felt like he wasn't even trying to be there for me,
00:23and it was just, like, we were just missing each other.
00:27Do you miss your friendship with her?
00:29Of course.
00:30I mean, I haven't had a relationship that depth of maybe ever.
00:33I don't know if we'll be friends again, but, like...
00:35Time will tell.
00:37We gotta talk about Toegate.
00:40Lexi, do you think they had sex, by the way?
00:43I would have thought he got a blowjob.
00:45I mean, I have no reason to protect him, you know?
00:47It was just a toe sign.
00:49It sucks to watch Paige and Amanda see them flirting
00:53and be like, oh, my gosh, they should date, they should date.
00:56I never said they should date.
00:57No, Amanda did.
00:58At the time, there was no intention of doing anything with Sierra.
01:01It was just, like, our typical flirty friendship.
01:03But I will say, on your press tour, you definitely made it apparent
01:06that you were coming for me.
01:08Like, what the was that?
01:15What you said in the media, like, you illustrated this picture
01:18that, like, me and Jessie are, like, doing things that are manipulative
01:21or doing things in the media to rub it in your face.
01:25Like, what the was that?
01:27Jessie, I feel like, orchestrates all this stuff.
01:29And Jessie was doing it all summer to me, specifically against you three.
01:32Okay, well, you dragging me into it in your press was a low blow.
01:36But it was always...
01:37I had a birthday party and I invited everyone.
01:40And, um, certain two people didn't answer
01:44and then a certain two people hung out that day instead.
01:47Those two!
01:48They better be prepared for you at the reunion, I hope.
01:50I'm very sorry that you were dragged into it.
01:53Yeah, because...
01:54Jessie's the one posting it.
01:55Jessie's the one liking comments, shipping this relationship between you two.
01:59And again, I'm sorry that you took offense to what I said.
02:02It was more towards what Jessie posts.
02:04So she's collateral, essentially.
02:05Yeah, but, like, I was collateral damage.
02:07And I genuinely did not mean to.
02:08Yeah.
02:09And I didn't think that you would feel like you were collateral.
02:11Just make that clear next time, because I'm not involved in this.
02:14And all that smoke should be directed at Jessie.
02:16And I wanted it to be.
02:17And, yeah.
02:18But just be careful of the picture you paint.
02:21I didn't skip anybody's birthday intentionally.
02:23I didn't even go to Paige's 30th birthday.
02:25I really don't care about birthdays like that.
02:27That's true.
02:28So, like...
02:29And that's cool.
02:30But it's not that you guys...
02:31It's not intentional.
02:32I gotta move on.
02:33Lexi, I'm trying to get a sense of where you're at with Jessie.
02:37Are you mad at him?
02:39Are you...
02:40Yeah, I'm mad at him.
02:41There was so much, like, playing people against each other.
02:45He made it seem like you three girls didn't like me.
02:48You said a lot of...
02:49Yes, you did.
02:50You said that there are sides in the house.
02:52So false.
02:53And then that made me cling on to him even more.
02:55Because then I was like, oh, you're the only person that I actually feel like I have in this house.
02:59You're making me sound like some mastermind.
03:01Like, I didn't...
03:02You're not that smart.
03:03Yeah.
03:04Unfortunately, I think he's a lot smarter than everyone gives him credit for.
03:07Did you say to her, like, don't be friends with the girls?
03:10No, I wanted you to be friends.
03:12Why would I not want you to be friends with them?
03:14Did Jessie say, don't be friends with Amanda, Paige, Sierra, but do be friends with Gabby Lindsey?
03:18He said that they're trying to break us up and that they don't like us being together.
03:21Those three and not these two?
03:22Yes.
03:23He seemed like he did know so much and knew how to, like, move his way.
03:26And all of you guys did love him so much.
03:27He tried to big dog you because he was second season and it was your first season.
03:31Yes.
03:32And I was alone.
03:33I was completely alone because, Imrule, you are you.
03:37He's a guy.
03:38Yeah, it's different.
03:39Yeah, we obviously didn't connect the same way.
03:40And then, like you said, Toegate happened and then it was the whole thing.
03:42So I definitely clung onto Jessie a hundred percent.
03:45Right.
03:46He thinks it's just miscommunications, but I genuinely felt very, like, gaslit, very isolated, very manipulated, very all of these things.
03:54And watching it back has been so heartbreaking for me.
03:58So, Jessie, do you see how she felt like you isolated her in the house?
04:04I can understand where she's coming from now, but it was never my intention to do that.
04:10And I really wanted her to have a positive experience in the house.
04:13Nobody didn't like you, though.
04:15I hope you don't feel like we didn't like you.
04:17I did feel like that.
04:19Like, I thought you were just, like, having so much fun with this new guy and, like, I didn't really even think about it.
04:25I wish you came and talked to me or, like, texted me on the side or something so, like, I could try to help or help navigate.
04:35But I didn't feel comfortable.
04:37And that makes me sad.
04:38And that's not what I understand.
04:39But I tried to be, like, extremely open and welcoming to you from the very first moment.
04:46So, Jessie, respond to anything you want.
04:51Yeah, I think I really tried.
04:55I definitely made some mistakes.
04:58And I regret those mistakes.
05:01If I could go back and do it again, I would do it differently.
05:04But I did really have genuine feelings for Lexi, and I'm upset that this is how it ended.
05:12Can I say, honestly, both of you really liked each other.
05:17And, like, even when you would break up and then get back together, it was so clear.
05:22Like, the chemistry, the fun you guys had.
05:25Like, you both really were into it.
05:28And I think where it went wrong for a myriad of reasons is because it became about perception.
05:34You know, you felt like Jessie was making you look like a fool.
05:38The toe-sucking, the flirting when you were away.
05:41And then you felt like, towards the end, she was making you look like an asshole and a bad guy and this horrible person.
05:48And it became more about how the world was going to perceive each of you.
05:54Very good.
05:55That was a great read.
06:05I think that's from...
06:07That was actually my rant the very last weekend.
06:09I was like, I think you'll take...
06:11Goddammit, Kyle!
06:13I was worried.
06:15You're mansplaining.
06:17He was quiet for 30 minutes.
06:19He's like, I can't handle this anymore.
06:21I need to take credit.
06:22That's what I said.
06:23Kyle, your delivery.
06:24Your delivery.
06:25I'm not trying to steal your thunder.
06:27But I'm trying to steal your thunder.
06:29All right.
06:30Do the two of you see a possibility of friendship in the future?
06:34Jessie?
06:35I tried to create a friendship with Lexi.
06:38Um, I think we never really got the opportunity to do that over the summer, so...
06:43It's really not my decision.
06:46Lexi?
06:47Yeah, I'm good.
06:51Well, we are gonna say farewell to Imral.
06:54Thank you, Imral.
06:55Round of applause.
06:56Thanks, Imral.
06:57And we are going to be right back after this.
07:00Thank you, Imral.
07:01Bye.
07:02Can I pee?
07:03Can I pee?
07:04I'm just gonna run.
07:05I am truly sorry.
07:06I genuinely did not mean for you to ever get caught in the crossfire.
07:10I think that he did and said a lot of things that made me feel like you were into him.
07:16Are you feeling all right?
07:17I don't know.
07:18She's projecting what she's feeling as, like, that I did that I just never did.
07:23Sucks.
07:24But I am very sorry, and I would genuinely love a friendship with you in the future whenever you are ready for that.
07:30No, I appreciate that.
07:31I'm very open.
07:32We, in all summer, like, we didn't have a thought, like, oh, we don't like Lexi.
07:35It literally didn't run through our minds.
07:37It didn't cross our minds.
07:38Because he was putting us against each other so much in the summer off-camera, I did feel like you didn't like me or you were into him like that.
07:45Also, Lexi, you think I'm stupid, I'm gonna date another stupid boy right after I just dated Wes?
07:50Again, I am sorry for those comments.
07:53Yeah, no, it's okay.
07:54That's why I really, truly did end with being, like, I want to be her friend.
07:58Right.
07:59And that's us.
08:00Your makeup bottle touches, please.
08:01Can you come?
08:02Come, come across.
08:03Come over.
08:04Please.
08:05You okay?
08:06Are you sure?
08:07You did good, honey.
08:09It just sucks.
08:10I know.
08:11No tears.
08:12He's not even worth a single one.
08:21Up next, you confess that the hardest part about not being with Lindsey was missing her friendship.
08:28I didn't think I'd get emotional.
08:30Good.
08:31And everybody settle in, please.
08:32Pick your back up.
08:33Keep going.
08:34Five, four, three.
08:35We are back in bed with the gang from Summer House.
08:48History has proven that you don't ever want to see Lindsey Hubbard activated, but after showing
08:53up to the Summer House with a bombshell pregnancy reveal, this year, Lindsey was basically
09:00cool as a cucumber and, dare I say, soft.
09:05On your mark, get set, go!
09:14Bye, Kyle!
09:15It's my birthday!
09:18We're so pregnant!
09:20Lindsey, congratulations.
09:24So, you were pregnant at the last reunion.
09:26You were showing your midriff.
09:27It was almost like you were taunting everyone.
09:32Wow.
09:33Look at this.
09:34Hi, Candy.
09:35You look beautiful.
09:36You look handsome.
09:37I was just trying to throw everyone off my scent.
09:39I was like, if I show my midriff, maybe they won't think I'm pregnant.
09:43And it actually worked on a couple of people.
09:45Not me.
09:46Jessie, you had an interesting reaction to Lindsey's pregnancy announcement.
09:51Yeah.
09:52Night of the summer.
09:53We got a lot of questions about that.
09:56I'm pregnant.
09:57I knew it!
09:59I knew it!
10:00I knew it!
10:01Oh my God, so are you craving anything?
10:03What's going on?
10:04I'm happy for you.
10:06Paula from Massachusetts said, okay, Jessie, care to explain your stank face reaction to
10:14Lindsey telling the house she's pregnant?
10:16Super weird.
10:17I think Lindsey knows that I was happy for her.
10:20I was just surprised.
10:21I just couldn't believe what I was hearing.
10:24It was just like shocking.
10:26Like a minute ago, she was about to marry Carl and like the next summer we show up and
10:31she's pregnant with another guy.
10:33I was just surprised.
10:34Lindsey, were you annoyed by his reaction?
10:38Yeah, I was.
10:39I was like, this .
10:41It was also during your story.
10:43I'm gonna kill him.
10:44You were like, four score and eight years ago we did this and this.
10:47I was like, where the is this going?
10:49It was a doozy of a way to introduce.
10:51It was.
10:52It was a lot.
10:53It helped me get to know you.
10:54It was a TED talk.
10:55Carl, when you heard about Lindsey's announcement, you thought what?
11:01I mean, I was happy for her.
11:03I was surprised.
11:04But no, I was legitimately happy for her.
11:07I, you know, I had heard about rumors and things and people were talking about it.
11:11But yeah, I mean, it was something I feel like she's always wanted and I was genuinely
11:15really happy for her.
11:16Okay, now Gabby, Marie from Rhode Island said you were nice to Carl's face that first weekend,
11:21but you had a lot to say about him behind his back.
11:23Were you trying to make Lindsey feel better or do you really think Carl contributes nothing
11:28to the house?
11:29That was so weird that, like, Carl didn't, like, say anything.
11:33Why did you do that to get back?
11:35I don't know.
11:36I mean, it's like big ass teeth.
11:38And it's not an alcohol of a boy.
11:40And it's contributing nothing to Bernie.
11:42And he's not going to, like, pick up curls.
11:44I don't think that.
11:48I was definitely trying to make Lindsey feel better, for sure.
11:50But I also think that, like, as a girlfriend and I'm talking to my friends about their exes,
11:56we're always talking them.
11:57They never do anything right.
11:59So, like, I don't think that you don't disagree with anything.
12:01She texted me about that moment, which I really appreciated.
12:05And what did she say?
12:06Just, you know, she was just apologetic and it felt genuine.
12:10And I have a lot of love for Gabby.
12:12What was your reaction to it when you saw it?
12:14I mean, I was definitely, like, a little disappointed to hear that.
12:17More about the teeth thing.
12:19And it's probably on me because I don't think you're fully aware.
12:21I mean, my teeth are, I've had dental issues over my, since I was eight years old,
12:25I got hit in the face with a hockey stick for my brother.
12:27I took a baseball off the face.
12:29I've had dental issues.
12:30Season one was made fun of for my yellow teeth.
12:32I did have yellow teeth.
12:34I brushed my teeth with a comb.
12:35What?
12:37My only thing was in the vibe I got was that, like, is he, like, a player?
12:43I don't know yet.
12:45The way my teeth are currently, a couple years ago, I had to get them fixed.
12:49The teeth that I had last summer, honestly, were embarrassing and huge.
12:53I was really down about it because I...
12:55Aw.
12:56You look so good.
12:57I know exactly what people see, too.
12:59Like, I have a lot of self-awareness.
13:00Like, I was embarrassed by my teeth.
13:02What I'm looking at now is definitely...
13:04I had them fixed.
13:05Yes.
13:08I thought it was touching that on the anniversary, Carl, of your brother's death,
13:12you confessed that the hardest part about not being with Lindsay
13:15was missing her friendship.
13:18He passed on the 10th, but I got the call August 11th in the morning.
13:22It was Lindsay's birthday that day.
13:24You know, there was a lot of just weird attachment.
13:27You know, Lindsay was buried in my life.
13:29Yeah.
13:30And honestly, he's not.
13:31Do you still miss that friendship?
13:33Uh, yeah.
13:34I mean...
13:38I didn't think I'd get emotional.
13:39Um...
13:40Of course.
13:41Uh, she's...
13:42We've had a lot of fun together.
13:43And she's been there for me in a lot of very, very difficult moments.
13:47Um...
13:49Yeah, it's hard.
13:50I have a lot of love for her family and, you know, for her.
13:53She's an amazing person, but it wasn't right for our relationship.
13:56But it just...
13:58Losing a friend no matter what the situation is sucks.
14:00Yeah.
14:01And she was a friend and we had a lot of great bonding and just stuff that was kind of gone.
14:08But it was an adjustment for sure.
14:12Lindsay, do you miss your friendship with Carl?
14:14I don't know if I'm there yet.
14:17What made you go up to him in the club and acknowledge the anniversary?
14:21I'm just gonna say I know today what you have.
14:24And I'm glad to see that you're making the best of it.
14:27Because no matter what, like, I think, you know, that to this day is the hardest thing that Carl has ever gone through in his entire life.
14:40And that is worth acknowledging, regardless of our history or our past.
14:46It meant a lot that you extended that and I genuinely appreciate that.
14:50And I know my family did as well, so thank you.
14:53Well, we got to see Lindsay interact with her ex in real life all summer.
15:01But her current beau, Turner, was MIA.
15:05Leaving Lindsay and her housemates wondering if his need for privacy would mesh with her very public life.
15:14So, Lindsay, how is Turner adjusting to fatherhood?
15:17He really is, like, better than I could have ever expected as a father.
15:21The three of you do not live together.
15:23No.
15:24Why is that?
15:27We put our romantic relationship on pause.
15:30Really?
15:37Turner and you do not live together.
15:40No.
15:41Why is that?
15:44We put our romantic relationship on pause.
15:48Really?
15:50For now.
15:52Okay.
15:53We are just focused on being, like, the best parents that we can possibly be to Gemma.
15:57So you're really more co-parents?
15:59We are co-parents.
16:00We are an amazing team.
16:02Not to be nosy, but when did you guys put the romantic side on pause?
16:06A few months ago.
16:07Okay.
16:08Yeah.
16:09Wait, were you guys not together when I came over?
16:10Yeah, Wes came over, like, last week.
16:11I will say, it is, like, hard to tell that they're not together.
16:13Really?
16:14I didn't, I was there for two hours and I didn't clock that.
16:16Yeah.
16:17Well, big surprise.
16:18Because you wouldn't.
16:19Like, we are.
16:20You literally wouldn't know.
16:21Literally.
16:22No.
16:24No way.
16:25What a supportive man.
16:26We are, like, the best of friends.
16:28That's great.
16:29We, like, even on the weekends when we don't have our nanny and it's just the two of us, like, tag-teaming, being parents.
16:35That's awesome, Lindsay.
16:36Like, we're out to brunch.
16:37We're going to visit friends.
16:39So, does he ever sleep over?
16:41Yeah.
16:42Are you friends with benefits?
16:45No.
16:46Do you date other people?
16:47I am not there yet mentally in my mind.
16:50Does he date other people?
16:52I don't think so, no.
16:54I don't think either of us have.
16:56What if you found out that he was trying to date someone?
17:00How would you react?
17:01He would not be spending the night half the week.
17:05So, just to be clear, the group didn't realize that Turner and Lindsay were no longer romantic.
17:12Mm-mm.
17:13I think it's, like, a mature decision for her because, like, we've had discussions about it.
17:16It is.
17:17And, like, I feel like she was, like, Turner is such a great dad to Gemma, but he's not the person romantically for me.
17:22I think that's, like, a level of maturity to realize instead of trying to force it to make it work just to stay a family.
17:28It's, like, I'm going to try to find somebody else who can be the man for me and not the dad because Gemma already has a dad, you know?
17:36That's great.
17:37Yeah.
17:38And if you can figure out the co-parenting thing, which is the most important thing, then...
17:41Yeah.
17:42Like, we'll see what happens in the future, but as of right this second, I think there's a lot for us to figure out when it comes to parenting, co-parenting, my lifestyle, me being public, him being private.
17:54Yeah.
17:55It's too much at once.
17:56Yes.
17:57You talked about, in the finale, tensions with Turner relating to posting Gemma on social media.
18:04How's that going?
18:06It's a struggle, you know?
18:08Dad is private.
18:09Mom is public.
18:11And what does that make baby?
18:13Um, it's hard.
18:15With being public, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
18:18Like, regardless of if I am not on Summer House or on Summer House, I'm still Lindsey from Summer House.
18:25Yes.
18:26So, tell me what you would say to the Lindsey Hubbard of nine years ago.
18:31What do you wish that she knew then that you know now?
18:34That you just have to trust the universe.
18:37Like, it is not gonna go the way you think or plan it to go.
18:43But you just have to trust the process and go with it, and it's all gonna work out.
18:48It's all gonna work out.
18:51Well, while Lindsey bounced back from last year at lightning speed, Carl was a different animal.
18:58When he wasn't giving lemur energy, he was re-entering the dating scene and launching a brand new business all at his own pace.
19:09I haven't had sex for a year.
19:11It's too flimsy.
19:12I gotta put some feelers out.
19:13I wanna carry Carl Johnson right into a vagina.
19:16Yeah.
19:18How are you?
19:19I'm looking good.
19:20You're bringing, like, lemur energy.
19:22Like, Madagascar lemur.
19:24You like lemurs?
19:25Very much.
19:26Carl, let's talk about everyone's favorite amateur magician.
19:31What initially attracted you to Lil?
19:35Uh, I thought she had a hot body and a cute face.
19:39Um, Lindsey, did it annoy you to hear that Carl invited another girl to the house?
19:44No, I was gone that weekend, so I figured if there's one weekend for him to have another girl there, this is the one.
19:51Would it have annoyed you if you were there?
19:53Um, no.
19:55No, but what did annoy me was watching it and you talked about where I conceived my daughter.
20:01Oh, God.
20:02A lot of my past when I shipped, there's been a lot of ups and downs.
20:05I mean, she got pregnant with his child in the bed I paid for in that apartment.
20:10I don't know why you're talking about me and where I conceived my baby, but we did not conceive my child on a bed in general.
20:20Wait.
20:21Where did?
20:22Wait.
20:23Oh!
20:24Now this is a little other change behind me.
20:25Those are details.
20:26I got pregnant.
20:27Oh, you're pulling a turner and keeping it private?
20:29Well, I don't need to talk to you guys about how I conceived my baby, but it was not on the bed that Carl paid for.
20:35Understood.
20:36I'm fully responsible for my words, so I'm sorry for saying that.
20:39Okay.
20:40Kyle, you probably know Carl the best out of everyone in the house.
20:44What would you say is different about him now versus when you started the house together nine years ago?
20:50Going back, the Carl on the weekend was not always the Carl that I knew.
20:54He definitely would use substances as a bit of a cloak, if you will.
21:00And I almost felt like, I'm like, man, there's so much more to this guy.
21:04Like, I feel like he's just so much more confident now.
21:07He's feeling more comfortable in his own skin.
21:09And I'm super proud of you.
21:10Yeah, it's really cool to see how happy you are now.
21:13I mean, both of you have been just very supportive and kind of pushing me in the right way.
21:17We love you.
21:19And don't ever change with those stupid jokes.
21:22Well, four years into their marriage, Kyle and Amanda's bustling careers kept their plans to start a family on the back burner.
21:32And while their marriage seemed healthier than ever, would we ever see the day when an aspiring DJ, a two-piece swimsuit designer, and baby make three?
21:45What do we think?
21:46What?
21:47I would never have thought I would not have kids by now.
21:52There are some days where I'm like, should I even have kids?
21:56I'm not suited to take care of something else.
22:02Kyle, even though you and Amanda were on different pages with a lot of things this summer, you seemed to talk it out rather than fight about it.
22:10What changed?
22:11You know, as far into this relationship and marriage as we are, I think that it's still a good reminder that it's all about patience.
22:19Even when I would mess up or she would do something that would upset me, I felt like we just did a better job of kind of hashing it out in a civil manner instead of letting it fester.
22:28I think another way to answer the question might be Kyle didn't up too badly this summer.
22:33I mean, a couple times.
22:34100%.
22:35Yeah, no, I think there was a lot of changes.
22:37I mean, Kyle and I had a very big conversation in the beginning of the summer.
22:40Okay.
22:41About like where our relationship stood, what needed to change in order for us to move forward because I was ready to, I had one foot out.
22:52Yeah.
22:53Oh my God, wow.
22:54Oh, wow.
22:55You keep doing the one thing that you know hurts me and it pushes me farther and farther away every time you do it and then you're like, why aren't we friends?
23:04Friendship is built on trust.
23:06I can't trust you.
23:08Yeah, our relationship was on shaky ground to say the least.
23:13And, you know, look, I kind of use socializing as an outlet.
23:18Yeah.
23:19Like I don't drink unless I'm socializing.
23:21I'm not great at moderation when I am drinking.
23:23But like I realized for the longest time that I'm using the Hantons and summer as like my big release.
23:30And I'm like, that continues to get me in trouble and it continues to put our marriage in a compromise place.
23:35I need to stop thinking about, hey, this might be my last hurrah and just being a little more present.
23:40Good.
23:41That worked.
23:42Well, I want to get into where you stand on a possible baby lover boy or girl.
23:48Kyle Lauren from Albany said, you said it yourself the second you went on vacation with Amanda and actually stopped working for a minute.
23:55She was romantic with you.
23:57Do you think your obsession with work is holding you two back from the next chapter?
24:01Look, I think my work ethic sometimes.
24:06Hmm.
24:07Hmm.
24:08Hmm.
24:09I, I, everything that I'm doing is to build a future.
24:13But there will be no future if all he does is work.
24:16You working all the time and then traveling on the weekends and going to DJ and just like never being around at all isn't helping us feel like a family.
24:29I, I get that.
24:30Okay.
24:31We don't spend a lot of time together.
24:32He's working late at night.
24:34He's working on the weekends.
24:35He's on the office side.
24:36I'll make dinner.
24:37He comes over to eat it then goes back to answer more emails.
24:39He's up early in the morning to go to the gym before his work meeting.
24:42Oh my God.
24:43By the way, Christine from Atlanta said, Amanda Kyle has two speeds, party animal and workaholic.
24:49No wonder Amanda doesn't want to have kids with him.
24:52Do you think he'll ever find more balance?
24:56I'd like to hope so.
24:57I'm just waiting for us to sell Everboy.
25:00Yeah.
25:01I mean, look, like.
25:02But I don't know.
25:03And that's a big concern of mine.
25:04Would you like to sell?
25:05You're building it to sell, I would assume.
25:07At the very least partner, but I'm fully in and I'm, I'm going to see it through.
25:11I'm trying to front load it.
25:12So when we do start a family, I am present.
25:15I will say that he has said this years ago and we're still feels like we're in the same workaholic mode.
25:20And I just fear that, will there ever be balance?
25:23Will it slow down?
25:24And when it does, are you going to just start into something else?
25:27Maybe this doesn't come.
25:28Kyle, how old are you?
25:29I'm four, I'm 21.
25:30Sorry, I'm 42.
25:32Kyle's not ready to have kids.
25:36But are you?
25:38I'm ready to have kids with someone who's ready to have kids with me.
25:46Up next, for the last couple of years, you've been adamant that the rumors about Craig getting kicked out of Kyle and Amanda's wedding were untrue.
25:54Do you want to amend your story?
25:56Absolutely.
26:02I'm ready to have kids with someone who's ready to have kids with me.
26:07Look, I don't think it's a matter of I'm ready and you're not, you're ready and I'm not.
26:12Sounds like it is.
26:15I mean...
26:16Kyle's never like, oh, let's make a baby.
26:19I mean, we honestly, like, we struggle to talk about it.
26:23Struggle to talk about it?
26:25Well, we don't, it's not like we're sitting down and charting out a timeline.
26:28Let me ask you this.
26:29Do you both want...
26:31Why are you looking at me?
26:33Do you both want kids eventually in your marriages?
26:36Yes, absolutely.
26:37And that's something that we've always talked about.
26:38And you absolutely agree with that?
26:39Yes.
26:40Carl, you've known Kyle the longest of the men in the house.
26:42Does he seem ready for a family, do you?
26:44I mean, I think at times I see him definitely.
26:46Like, even he was holding Gemma earlier, which was really beautiful to see and really sweet.
26:51Say hi!
26:52Oh my God's a little...
26:54It's a little hot.
26:55Say hi!
26:57Yeah, say hi, Kyle.
26:58Wait till you see her seventh month in the morning.
27:00Yeah.
27:01She might spit up on you.
27:02You got this.
27:03Aw!
27:04Hi!
27:05Aw!
27:06Aw!
27:07You know, it's kind of like a little picture of like what Kyle could be like as a dad.
27:11He's great with the dogs too.
27:12But, you know, I want what's best for them.
27:13Did you meet Gemma?
27:14Briefly, yeah.
27:15Just like a little hello from afar.
27:16Gemma said off.
27:17I'm just trying to be respectful and it was really, really sweet to see her.
27:19Amanda, your mental health is in a really good place, right?
27:20In a great place.
27:21Yeah.
27:22Are you worried about what pregnancy would do to your mental health?
27:24For sure.
27:25Yeah.
27:26Yeah.
27:27The aftermath.
27:28If I can be candid, I am a little too.
27:29But now that I'm prepared for it and the medication that I'm taking right now, I can
27:34take while pregnant.
27:35Okay.
27:36Yeah.
27:37Yeah.
27:38Yeah.
27:39Yeah.
27:40The aftermath.
27:41If I can be candid, I am a little too.
27:43But now that I'm prepared for it and the medication that I'm taking right now, I can
27:47take while pregnant.
27:48Okay.
27:49So.
27:50Can I say, like, I really appreciated Amanda being very upfront and honest and emotionally
27:56intelligent to understand that, like, postpartum depression is a thing.
28:01And I'm here to tell you, like, it's wild.
28:03Yeah.
28:04And it is no joke.
28:05And you're, like, the strongest person that I know.
28:06And I'm, like, a really strong, like, mentally strong person.
28:09So, like, I applaud you for, like, having that foresight.
28:14But, Andy, like, to your point, like, timing.
28:15I don't have a crystal ball.
28:16I don't know how long it'll take to get Loverboy and Flowerboy to a place where I can turn around
28:21and say, hey, next year, baby.
28:23He wants to have all of his ducks in a row, but.
28:25But do you think that you'll get to the point where it's, like, okay, if it's not done by
28:28this date, it is what it is.
28:30It has to be that way.
28:31And we have to move.
28:32Like, you can still work on it, but, like, what about enjoying the moments that you don't
28:35have kids right now, like, and not letting the business take over your entire life?
28:39Yeah.
28:40We need to be better at prioritizing us.
28:44I've just been focused on me.
28:45I feel like Kyle's been focused on him.
28:47Not in a negative way for so long.
28:49I mean, you both seem really happy, so.
28:51Yeah.
28:52We both just started saying yes to, like, everything over the last six to nine months,
28:55and it's been a lot.
28:56Like, I've never been busier, but it's.
28:58I like that.
29:00Before I had my kid, I vowed to.
29:03How did you, timing-wise, how did you?
29:04I was turning 50, and I was like, I have to do it.
29:07Because it's, I'm gonna be too old.
29:09Do you have an age for yourself, Kyle, or Amanda, where you're like, it's gotta be by this age for myself?
29:16I mean, it has to be in the next few years for me.
29:19It has, like, biologically, I'd like to have my first child, because I'd like to have more than one.
29:24Have you thought about freezing your eggs, by the way?
29:26Yeah.
29:27Well, I got sperm on ice just in case.
29:28Okay. Craig's got sperm on ice, too.
29:30Good for him.
29:31Speaking of Craig, this season, alpha males Kyle and Craig faced off over the manliest
29:38topic you could imagine, spritz cocktails.
29:43What is that?
29:44Kyle Cook rage texting about Craig.
29:48We're fighting because Craig did something with another drink company.
29:52So it's my fault?
29:53What the is this?
29:55you, dude.
29:56You said I have a reputation known for lying in front of the whole world.
29:59Kyle, what the dude?
30:00Like, that's nuts.
30:01I don't care.
30:02If you're not sorry for what you did, then, yeah, we're not cool.
30:07Looking back, do you think you fought too hard for Craig in that?
30:12I've, no, because he was my boyfriend.
30:15Yes.
30:16And I always fought very hard for him.
30:18I always tried to protect him.
30:20If someone said something bad about him, like, I would go at them.
30:23Like, I, he was my focus.
30:26So, like, I would always defend him and then we'd get in private and I'd be like, you know
30:30that you were wrong, but I had to defend you because you're my boyfriend.
30:33Right.
30:34But do you think that he actually may have been wrong in this?
30:38Well, here's the thing.
30:39We'll never know because I don't know with the whole business deal if he was even telling
30:43me the truth.
30:44Right.
30:45But I know that in the very beginning when he first told me about it, my first response
30:48was, you have to call Kyle and you have to have a conversation with Kyle about it.
30:52And he was, like, blindsided by that.
30:55Like, he couldn't believe I suggested that.
30:57You, Kyle, in your conversation with Craig, apologized to him for calling him a liar.
31:03Do you think you were wrong about him being a liar or were you just saying that to move through it?
31:08No, I was trying to take the high road.
31:10I mean, I literally have text after text after text, lie after lie after lie.
31:14Receipts galore.
31:15Kyle was, like, upset.
31:16Like, he'd wake up in the middle of the night, like, sitting at the edge of the bed, like,
31:21I'm like, what is wrong?
31:22I don't think my ex knew actually what he was saying.
31:26Like, I don't think he actually understood the business part of it.
31:29So, he was spewing things to sound like he knew what was going on.
31:33It became very clear, and this is the reason I never talked to Paige about it,
31:36until we got into that heated part of the summer.
31:39I was like, there's no way Paige even knows what's going on,
31:42because Craig doesn't know what's going on.
31:43Right, right?
31:44Like, everything he texted me was a contradiction.
31:46Yeah.
31:47Like, oh, yeah, I'm thinking about doing it, but I wanted to run it by you.
31:50Oh, wait, no, I already did it.
31:51Oh, wait, no, my business partners voted me two to one.
31:54Oh, I only did it because I thought you only do teas.
31:58Then he came out with an iced tea.
31:59Yeah, then the thing that really, the icing on the cake,
32:02I only did a spritz because I thought you only did teas.
32:04And then the flavor that he was working on during this entire...
32:07The whole time was an iced tea.
32:08Like, since March.
32:09What?
32:10Was an iced tea.
32:11Our very first flavor of Loverboy was a lemon iced tea.
32:13Yeah.
32:14What does he roll out?
32:15We had both of those.
32:16Seven years later, a lemon iced tea.
32:17And he just was like, I can't with this guy.
32:19That was the most insane white boy response ever.
32:25I can't with this guy.
32:26I can't with this guy.
32:27That was such a white boy statement.
32:29And despite all that, I still checked in on him, you know, when I found out.
32:32Right, which is so nice of you.
32:33That was a weird response to me checking in via text.
32:36He unfollowed me on Instagram.
32:37I was like, oh.
32:38Yeah, I mean, he blocked me.
32:39I didn't check on him and he unfollowed me too, so that's cool.
32:41He unfollowed you?
32:42Yeah, I mean, I said team Paige.
32:44If anyone defended me, he unfollowed them and cut off all communication.
32:48I mean, one of the things brought a smile on my face.
32:51When they did break up, I checked in on her.
32:53Like, can I share?
32:54Yeah, sure.
32:55She was like, she was like, team lover boy.
32:57Like, that actually meant a lot to me.
33:00I mean, taking into account the last year.
33:03You're gonna cry.
33:04It's so better to have me on your side.
33:08Yeah, yeah.
33:09Well, Paige, for the last couple years, you've been adamant that the rumors about Craig getting kicked out of Kyle and Amanda's wedding were untrue.
33:17After hearing Kyle confirm them, do you want to amend your story?
33:23So, what I was fighting about at the reunion last year was that Danielle sent the story into a blogger or whatever.
33:32Yes.
33:33You wrote a whole article.
33:34Okay, wait.
33:35I confirmed what was already true.
33:37Danielle, do you regret leaking that story?
33:39At the time, I thought it was juicy as .
33:41I was like, yeah, that happened.
33:42And that's the person you are.
33:44That was the part I was most mad about because I feel like we, as a cast, don't, like, send things in anonymously about each other.
33:51Right, okay.
33:52Now, was he asked to not return to the backyard?
33:54Absolutely.
33:55Craig was told to leave our property.
33:58Yes.
33:59Oh, really?
34:00This morning, I woke up and I was like, you have to apologize to Mr. and Mrs. Batula.
34:04Paige texted them.
34:05And he absolutely refused.
34:07Which is kind of bonkers.
34:08I was mortified.
34:09He was so belligerently drunk.
34:11He was causing a scene.
34:13He was kicking tables.
34:14He was yelling at people.
34:15He was going inside the house.
34:16He was inside my parents' house, which everyone was asked not to be in.
34:19He acted like an entitled brat at the wedding and he was an embarrassment.
34:23Is there anything else you feel like you've had to lie about to protect him?
34:28Is there anything else you feel like you've had to lie about to protect him?
34:40Honestly, I'm so uncomfortable because I've never had to lie in my entire life until I started dating him.
34:46And it was more like I had to be like, oh, he's not that drunk.
34:49Or like, oh no, we just wanted to go home early.
34:51Like, it's little situations that he would put me in that I would have to diffuse.
34:56Anyway, it's uncomfortable and it gets very overwhelming and tiring.
35:01Yeah.
35:02Sierra, were you aware that Paige and Craig were having issues before the summer began?
35:06Yeah, I mean...
35:08Yeah.
35:09Yeah.
35:10Yeah.
35:11Okay.
35:12She comes to Thanksgiving.
35:13I mean, yeah.
35:14So his story to me at the Southern Charm reunion was, was Thanksgiving break, but he didn't really think that you were actually broken up.
35:20Yeah.
35:21And then in December, he felt like you got back together a couple times?
35:26No.
35:27He was at my house for Thanksgiving, Thursday.
35:30He left Friday, broke up with him that Sunday.
35:34December 10th, the day he was on Watch What Happens Live, he came over that night, final and in-person discussion.
35:41I didn't just call him up and say, see ya, and I'll send all your stuff in the mail.
35:45Like, we had a phone call, then we saw each other in person, and then in a timely fashion at the end of January, I mailed his things back.
35:52When was it announced, around the end of December?
35:54It was announced New Year's Eve.
35:56Because he was in Aspen, and I'm getting text messages, I'm getting pictures of him out at a bar, and I was like, oh, someone's gonna see him out at a bar and think, like, he's cheating on me or something?
36:07I'm gonna put the statement out.
36:09And so I tell him that I'm doing it.
36:11He doesn't respond to me.
36:13I put the statement out.
36:15Beautiful.
36:16So nice.
36:17Made it so easy for him.
36:19Like all of our relationship, made it so easy for him to just say, yep, we broke up.
36:24But like the rest of our relationship, his ego had to get all over it, and he had to make it known she broke up with me.
36:31Like, this is not my doing, I'm blindsided right before the holidays.
36:35Kyle, did it surprise you that Craig didn't defend Paige when cheating rumors started to swirl in the press?
36:44It actually made me mad for her, because I knew exactly what he was doing.
36:48I don't think that exes owe each other anything in a normal setting.
36:53We are in the public eye.
36:54Our reputation is very important, all we have.
36:59He did not need to defend me.
37:01He could have just said, no, she didn't cheat on me.
37:04But I really didn't need him leaning into, she wanted other people.
37:08I didn't break up with him for other people.
37:11It's just so interesting.
37:13You just never know what's going on inside a couple.
37:18Like, I mean, it's just so true.
37:20Yeah.
37:21Um, Paige, we really saw a vulnerable and emotional side to you this summer that I don't think that we've ever seen before.
37:28Yeah.
37:29My heart broke seeing that conversation with you and Ciara in bed, where you really seemed like you were torn between your head and your heart.
37:37Mm-hmm.
37:38Me and Craig are gonna break up and everything I have will, like, go away.
37:42I just hold on.
37:43It's okay.
37:44No, I'm just so anxious.
37:57When you were filming Summer House, and you're being very real about how you felt in this relationship, that was a bold move.
38:08Was there a part of you in your mind that was like, okay, well, by the time this airs, this will be over?
38:15Um, yes and no.
38:17Because here's the thing that I will say about me and my ex-boyfriend.
38:21When it came to filming, we were very much like, if you feel it and it's real, say it.
38:27Right.
38:28So it was kind of the same with me.
38:29Are you purposefully not saying his name?
38:32Absolutely.
38:33You'll never hear me say his name again.
38:35Up next.
38:36I'm dating.
38:37Jesse, any plans to pursue Paige now that she's single?
38:38Of course I will.
38:39Jesus Christ.
38:40Are you purposefully not saying his name?
38:54Absolutely.
38:55He'll never hear me say his name again.
38:58That's my girl.
39:00You said on your podcast that you and your ex-boyfriend.
39:07That you thought the two of you would remain friends.
39:10I did think that.
39:11But it went in a very opposite direction.
39:13And no, we will never speak again.
39:17Boy, BravoCon is going to be interesting.
39:19I was going to say, BravoCon.
39:20What is the status of your dating life now?
39:23I'm dating.
39:24I'm absolutely dating.
39:25I truly have been so busy with work.
39:28I didn't finish my tour until February.
39:30And like traveling for work.
39:31So nothing serious.
39:33No one special.
39:34Jesse, any plans to pursue Paige now that she's single?
39:38No plans, but of course I will.
39:41Jesus Christ.
39:42He can't help himself.
39:44Paige, your growth over the last year has been insane to watch.
39:47Amanda, you said that the things that Paige achieved this year
39:51are the goals that she told you about when you first met.
39:55It must make you feel very proud to see Paige.
39:57Yeah.
39:58I get emotional thinking about it.
39:59She was just a little baby, I feel like, when we met.
40:02And I remember sitting there on that rooftop talking about
40:05like what she wanted to do with life.
40:07And it's just been really cool to see her achieve those goals
40:10and even more.
40:12As we look ahead to what's next for this group,
40:16summer's just around the corner.
40:18Lindsay, despite what some of your housemates have said in the past...
40:23West.
40:24Do you plan on spending time in the Hamptons this year?
40:27Yeah, I'll be out there.
40:28I mean, I don't know if I'll be living at the house every weekend.
40:32I have a small baby at home.
40:34You know, it's my first summer with Gemma, so I'm really excited to...
40:38Bring her by.
40:39...spin that with her.
40:40But we'll see how much I can make it to the house,
40:43and I'll be in the city during the week.
40:46Well, on that note, I think we could all use a toast.
40:49Paige and Amanda got a taste of Lindsay's breast milk,
40:52and I'm told Lindsay brought enough to share
40:54with the rest of the crowd.
40:56What about Gemma?
40:58Just kidding.
40:59The genuine excitement?
41:01We do have white Russians for everybody,
41:03except for Carl, who really does get to try Lindsay's breast milk.
41:07Just kidding, Carl.
41:10That would be truly sadistic.
41:13It really is so good, though.
41:14I would put it in my coffee.
41:15Bottle stop.
41:16Oh, they're in baby bottles?
41:17Oh, my God.
41:18Oh, my God.
41:19That's so cute.