- 6/2/2025
Sister Wives Season 19 Episode 27 One-on-One Part 2
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00:00previously on sister wives one-on-one he wanted to raise every wife up to that level and share
00:11the same experience that he had with robin would have been nice to have communicated that back then
00:15maybe that's revisionist history now too it's hard to be like well i tried i wanted to but
00:20they just didn't want to come along when is there time to do that there was not time or opportunity
00:26or willingness to make that happen that is just not true absolutely not this is my frustration
00:33he didn't want me to do that divorce process through the church because he didn't believe
00:39in the church like it's his double standard i think it's awesome it was on abandonment because
00:44that was the truth she was abandoned we were all abandoned she told the leaders of my church that
00:49she had been abandoned fine i don't care this happens every time the kids talk to him about
00:56robin or i talked to him it's like he just doesn't want to go there that's his sacred cow she's
01:01perfect don't dare talk about her i don't know what went wrong between us but it made me angrier
01:09angry and angry until i was just like yeah i'm done if there's a bias and i i don't want to do that
01:16anymore all i can think is that it's somehow driven by his ego in some regards especially coming from the
01:22culture that we come from he's a failure to have lost all his marriages except for the one me not
01:29wanting to give up was way more about my children and my family than it was about my ego and my
01:38failures is a pointless here in sedona arizona i'm sitting down with cody mary robin christine and
01:51david and janelle to talk about their future and dive deeper into their past this is sister wives
02:00one-on-one when you say that he's a failure help me understand that so when you when you marry into
02:12plural marriage at least in our faith you are expected to become more than you are he was expected
02:19to make those relationships all of them work and be equal in his um not equal because nothing's ever
02:27fair or equal but like appropriate like meet the needs of all the different relationships right
02:31whatever that looked like and i think he really did especially during covid be like oh i'm really i'm
02:37just gonna shrug this off you guys don't like each other i'm tired you're gonna shorten my life span if
02:42i keep doing this like all of a sudden he's like i just don't want to do it anymore he kind of threw
02:46this little temper tantrum and i'm like oh okay i mean in the religion play this world if you've got a
02:51guy who three of his wives leave it's not it's a problem with the man you know it you know it's a
02:57problem with the man and when you see fountains where the guy loses all the wives you're like
03:00yeah that's him that's all him and so
03:03whatever on it yeah is that a hard pill for him to swallow i think it must be he had this dream and
03:12this vision of everything beautiful and perfect but he puts it on all of us for leaving and it's
03:17like before we left it was broken before he before we left everything had fallen apart did you like
03:23being called the sacred cow no i don't know whatever i don't care i don't care is is that
03:30like a term i don't know what that is i'm not sure where that came from do you think cody has a bias
03:37when it comes to you uh i don't think so um do you think or do you feel safe telling cody
03:51everything and anything yeah just about yeah are there any subjects that are off limits
03:58not really no why do you think it's not the same that janelle feels that um i i don't know i don't
04:08know why she feels that way um but he shut her down in that clip yeah i think there's a lot of focus on
04:15me i actually get really tired of it but um i wish really badly that they would all focus on their own
04:24relationships and um and work those relationships out without my name coming up the other thing was
04:33you mentioned running interference for robin how do you see that i feel like a lot of people
04:39want to pin the blame on robin and i don't think that she is necessarily innocent in this i mean takes
04:47two and so i think in a lot in a lot of ways he's made himself even more
04:53uh villainous i guess to kind of take away some of the blame from her this is just gospel according
05:01to now like i don't know so can you be specific about um i just feel like i feel like all this stuff
05:09with rewriting history and talking about how the kids and i just feel like he he wants to focus on
05:15himself not so much on robin because there is a lot of accusations being thrown around about her
05:22what accusations that she broke up the family that she never wanted the plural friend and i
05:27i don't think so in the very beginning she was very much part of the of what we were trying to build
05:33so you think he's running interference to protect her i don't ever remember him being this mean never
05:41he never was this mean i've never seen him be so mean and so um
05:46yeah like all the rewriting of history trying to hurt people like i feel like it's a smoke screen
05:55has she ever said she mentioned robin over and over in that scene well she felt she feels like robin is
06:01no she said that robin was always off topic so whatever she felt that she couldn't really express
06:07why does it have to include robin did robin offend her did robin do something wrong to her i don't know
06:13maybe she felt that robin was in this incredibly no special love with you that's that's just not
06:20dealing with that absolutely is janelle and i not dealing with janelle and cody it really has every
06:28relationship has to boil down to what that relationship was my relationship with robin hasn't been affected
06:36by these other relationships other than my own reaction to them well christine felt that she was
06:42abandoned and the person that you chose to be with was robin and i think that i just have to respectfully go
06:50have a good life via con dios i don't care what broke us up we know that we weren't good together
07:01but if you're going to make your future relationships better isn't it like to have an
07:08interesting introspective conversation no about what went wrong how it went wrong and how do you
07:15expect to have friendships wait wait how do you but you shut her down too when you were having that
07:20conversation you were like well we're not gonna have this conversation i always felt like your life
07:25centered so much about robin's house well in the past two years robin's been this place that
07:30things were safe cody even before that it felt like there was i wasn't as important
07:36i can remember one time we were traveling i think it was my birthday and you started getting mad at me
07:42about a conversation that you and she i had had with her that i don't know how you knew about
07:47don't go down that road we're trying to heal things and more destruction is going to help us
07:53here okay then i if i can't talk freely then let's just leave it as i don't really want to
07:58i do believe she said well if this isn't safe yeah okay listen suki right i want to shut you down
08:06now i know you can't shut me down yeah i can't no you can't i don't have to say the answer
08:11okay you could act like you could act like a baby and not do this but we're adults having a
08:16conversation but listen i'm not going to sit here and continue when they've moved on and go
08:22oh they did me wrong or they did this or that i'm sorry i was at fault too is that all anybody's
08:29looking for no ladies i'm sorry i was at fault too i yeah i just didn't see a future i wasn't happy
08:36i hope everybody's happy now and if you're not i hope that's not because of anything i'm doing or
08:44i'm saying that's it's it's suki it's time to move on they've all left well what you just did there
08:52was accountability i would love to have it back
08:56do you think you'll ever be able to settle down and have a conversation and be friends
09:05with cody and robin um
09:08i
09:11maybe like i i can still i can still be very friendly with cody i never really had much of a
09:20relationship with robin i don't i don't i don't have any hate or hard feelings or anything i just
09:28don't really want to know yeah but if you can't sit there and talk to robin just curious right now
09:34is there a way you can give me any specific examples why you don't want to be friends with
09:39her oh i could sit and talk to them that would be fine yeah if it was all superficial i would be fine
09:43if we you know i would talk to them that's no big deal yeah i'm just not going to be buddies with
09:48them or like go to lunch with them or why can't you be friends why can't you be buddies yeah why
09:53couldn't you have a relationship with them again i just i don't really i don't need it i don't want it
09:59i'm not looking for it is there a lack of trust is that why that both sides can't come together and
10:09have a deep friendship no i and a deep love for each other and a deep sense of respect for each
10:14other um i really just don't like them i don't i don't want to know them i don't want to be friends
10:19with them i just don't like them what is it about them that you don't like i don't know i just don't
10:23like them but as far as like trying to get together and make us interact yes it's because
10:28i really wouldn't like that i don't like them in that setting i just don't i just don't like them
10:33i don't want to be friends with them coming up do you like being called the favorite ex-wife i think
10:40it's freaking hilarious really i think it's hilarious like he's trying to be fun with it and i'm glad that
10:47he and i are like at this place that we can be like this and the favorite ex-wife comment was
10:55oh that's just tacky that's weird that's so weird why does he have to always have favorites what's up
11:00why why does he have to always have favorites
11:03all right usually when two exes walk into a room you know it could be a little petty it could be a
11:17little awkward especially right after a divorce no no no no no no and cue cody no just kidding
11:23no just kidding just kidding he and i would probably hug each other so it would be totally fine not a
11:29big deal however you guys seem to be getting along much better than i think anybody would
11:33have expected yeah especially when you were married you know we didn't see this that's what
11:38i'm saying i think it's because there was a lot of pressure there was a lot of pressure and i
11:43like i oh do your clips no no no i have thoughts i have thoughts you have thoughts is it like if you
11:50watch this no no no it's yeah it is moving day because yes it was moving day and there was a fun
11:56flirty kind of vibe between the two of you watch the clip okay all right and then we'll talk about
12:02okay got you wow chicken little i got you someone's gotta do it
12:09whoa stop
12:11this is
12:13this is awkward i'm so sorry i'm gonna punch you in the mouth
12:19mary backs right into me and then nathan pushes the bike into her
12:24what is happening what are you doing
12:30you okay mary mary's bent over in front of me right against me
12:36closer than i have been to him in years
12:39oh my gosh oh my gosh
12:44we're divorced i have one wife
12:46it's not mary
12:48about something
12:50that i certainly consider to be sacred
12:52with me and robin because it was sexual
12:54in nature it was so funny
12:56and yet so
12:57wrong
13:00awkward
13:01my hand on your back i know is doing so
13:04much good
13:05keep it because i need something to lean into if i start to fall
13:08mary's just on point
13:10today just the wonderful woman
13:12that i would have liked to have been married to
13:14hey listen
13:15we're like the best of worst couple ever
13:18what
13:18what
13:19you're the favorite ex-wife mary
13:22that's easy as can be
13:23that's
13:24that's actually great
13:26okay
13:27take it away
13:29so talk about the
13:31the bump and bump and grind
13:33was there a little bump and grind
13:34the moment
13:35oh my gosh
13:36oh my gosh nathan
13:38it was awkward
13:39it was like i was laughing so hard
13:42because it was so awkward and uncomfortable
13:44and completely inappropriate
13:45completely inappropriate
13:47it was funny
13:48because it was me and nathan and cody
13:52and we have a good enough relationship to do that
13:55but it was also like very inappropriate
13:58you know
13:59do you think robin would have been upset about it
14:01i have no idea
14:03it
14:04it was
14:05we were not
14:06married
14:06and so
14:07that was a
14:08very close
14:09place to be
14:11with somebody
14:11i mean i hadn't been there for
14:14many many years
14:15it was awkward
14:16yeah
14:16it was like they were so awkward in that moment
14:19i know
14:19how could they not
14:20it used to be
14:21i get it
14:21i get it
14:22it was the closest i'm sure they've been in years
14:24they all handled it beautifully
14:26i thought that was super super super funny to watch
14:29um
14:30him saying that it was like sexual in orient
14:32and hen
14:33he was still married
14:34and i'm like dude
14:35relax
14:36relax
14:37that's not what that was about
14:38it's almost like
14:39he's defining himself now
14:41as being robin's husband
14:43that is his identity
14:45and he was so afraid to say that's what it was
14:48he's been robin's husband for a long time
14:51um
14:52but it's almost like he was afraid to acknowledge that
14:54but now that's how he acknowledges himself
14:56he's like i just want to make it clear
14:57i'm married
14:58mm-hmm
14:59right here
14:59mm-hmm
15:00married
15:00not to her
15:01no no
15:02all of that
15:03that's a thing in the past
15:04let's establish that
15:06that was just funny
15:07let's leave it at that
15:09i i literally
15:10i i think it was removed
15:12i looked at him
15:13after i told him i'm going to punch you in the mouth
15:15then i looked at him
15:16this is my best friend
15:17nathan
15:18yeah
15:18and i looked at him
15:19and i
15:20nathan
15:20i will throat punch you
15:22because
15:23i was like
15:23all i'm thinking about
15:25is all the
15:26struggles through divorce
15:28that we've had
15:29and
15:30this sort of space like
15:32uh
15:34that i
15:34i had to
15:36get myself to
15:36so i was very conscientious of it
15:38that
15:39in a sense
15:41my body belongs to robin
15:42you know
15:43and i was like
15:45knock it off nathan
15:48and it was funny
15:50i think cody
15:50i think cody was
15:51afraid that
15:52it was disrespectful to you
15:54yeah
15:54was it disrespectful to you
15:56i don't know
15:56i guess
15:57it's
15:58i don't know for me
15:59it was just kind of like
16:00i
16:02i haven't drawn those lines yet
16:05or i didn't at that time
16:06i hadn't drawn those lines
16:07so
16:08i don't know
16:08i just hadn't really worried about it
16:10so
16:11what did you think about the banter
16:13going back and forth
16:13between mary and cody
16:15is it
16:15very normal
16:16okay
16:16yeah
16:17it's very very normal for them
16:18um
16:19yes
16:20they've
16:20they've had
16:21their attention for sure
16:22but like
16:23when they're like this
16:24that's my fave
16:25like really
16:26it's a lot of fun
16:27what about uh
16:28cody saying that
16:28this is the kind of woman
16:29i would have left
16:30this is the mary
16:30i wanted to be
16:31married to
16:33yeah
16:33so when he would say
16:34he says stuff like that
16:36and i'm like
16:36and before
16:39uh
16:39you know
16:40she was
16:40like
16:41done
16:41and leaving
16:42this was the kind of thing
16:44that i would see
16:44that made me go
16:45they have a possibility
16:47they have
16:48you know
16:49a chance
16:50what about cody
16:51calling mary
16:52the favorite ex-wife
16:53well wait
16:54before he even called her that
16:55he was like
16:56it's the old mary
16:57this is the mary
16:58that i wish i was married to
16:59yeah
17:00yeah that's
17:00that's an ass
17:01that's not nice
17:03that's mean
17:04why
17:05there's disrespect
17:06that's
17:06there we go
17:07not respecting her
17:08as a wife
17:09woman individual
17:10nothing in that
17:11just proved it
17:13and the favorite ex-wife
17:14comment was
17:14oh that's just tacky
17:16that's weird
17:17that's so weird
17:18why does he have to
17:18always have favorites
17:19what's up
17:19why
17:20why does he have to
17:22always have favorites
17:23those words
17:24ex and favorite
17:25don't go together
17:26wow
17:28um
17:29do you like being called
17:30the favorite ex-wife
17:32i think it's freaking hilarious
17:33really
17:34i think it's hilarious
17:35it like
17:36he's trying to be fun with it
17:38and i'm glad
17:38that he and i
17:39are
17:40like
17:41at this place
17:42that we can
17:43be like this
17:44and if i can
17:45be on good terms
17:47with him
17:47yeah
17:48i'd rather
17:49that
17:50than have
17:50all that angst
17:51and anger
17:52and you know
17:53what i mean
17:54that doesn't serve me
17:55what was it like
17:56for you to hear
17:57like cody say
17:58you're acting like
17:59you know
18:00there's there's mary
18:01acting like this
18:01wonderful person
18:02that i wish
18:02you wish
18:03you could have
18:03been married
18:04to
18:04well he was
18:05and sorry
18:06he lost out
18:07here's the thing
18:07i'm just gonna be me
18:09and i had been being me
18:11for a few years prior
18:13but he was never around
18:15and he didn't get to experience that
18:17you know
18:18he he talks so much
18:20about how awkward
18:22and uncomfortable
18:23and mean
18:24and whatever the words are
18:26that he puts to it
18:27um
18:28but it's like
18:29it's really unfortunate
18:31he didn't get to experience
18:33the fun me again
18:35he used to
18:37like
18:37there were times
18:39you've seen it
18:40yeah
18:40we've seen it
18:41in the past
18:42we've seen it on the show
18:43but
18:44it's fine
18:46does it make you
18:47when you look at those clips
18:48like second guess that decision
18:49in any way
18:50getting the spiritual release
18:52nope
18:53nope
18:54and divorcing him
18:55yeah
18:55nope
18:55not at all
18:56nope
18:57coming up
18:59in my head
19:00it's like you could have
19:01figured this out with her
19:03like why are you getting emotional
19:05and he was like
19:06it's just an end of an era
19:07it's nostalgia
19:08it was
19:09and I was like
19:10okay
19:11well what did you think about that
19:14when he was getting that emotional
19:15yeah
19:15I'm like you know what buddy
19:16you need to turn a mirror on yourself
19:18and you need to look at yourself
19:20good and hard
19:21you wonder what ended this era
19:23and it was you
19:24I think Mary is so loyal
19:29and he likes to bring up all the time
19:32while she had that catfishing thing
19:33you know what I mean
19:34so I just think he likes to
19:36find justifications again
19:38for his behavior
19:39look
19:40I think it's really
19:41really dangerous
19:42to say
19:43how we were at 25
19:45with
19:46before all the pressures
19:48of raising a family
19:50with very little money
19:50and all those things
19:51all the personality things
19:53it's really hard to compare
19:55who we were then
19:56and how our relationships developed
19:58with who this
19:59Cody point two
20:00or two point oh
20:01that gets to marry Robin
20:03and Robin gets this version
20:04well hell
20:05if I was marrying someone
20:05like Cody right now
20:06it'd probably be very different
20:07with all of his history
20:09and perspective
20:09and everything
20:10it'd be a very different
20:11relationship
20:11I think you couldn't
20:13get over the betrayal
20:14you could not get over
20:15the betrayal
20:16when it came to Mary
20:17I did though
20:18because I gave it plenty of time
20:20I got out of the anger phase
20:21I'd go over and see her
20:22all the time
20:23and it was still antagonistic
20:25I was like
20:26it was kind of like
20:27I had put up with this
20:28antagonistic relationship
20:29for years before the problem
20:31really
20:32the big problem manifest
20:34and when those calls
20:35started to interrupt our life
20:36I was just interpreting this
20:38this way
20:38that you didn't want
20:40to be out of the family
20:41you just wanted out of
20:42your relationship with me
20:44you seem so angry
20:46I didn't feel like
20:47I could get to you
20:47I didn't feel like
20:48we could even talk
20:49and then afterwards
20:50I was like
20:51well I never want to have
20:52a relationship like that again
20:53so we're going to do counseling
20:54we're going to figure out
20:55a different relationship
20:56it was still antagonistic
20:57it was antagonistic
20:59Suki
20:59until her
21:00and I
21:01and my brother-in-law Nathan
21:02were moving her
21:04it was antagonistic
21:06you think she released it all
21:07at that moment
21:09I think Mary went
21:10I'm free
21:10and forgave
21:12I don't want to jump
21:13to the end
21:14but
21:14those
21:16that day was
21:17just
21:18it worked
21:20it was good
21:22and when I'm leaving
21:23there's awareness
21:24that Mary and I
21:26had had this
21:26good experience
21:28and
21:28and I
21:30I left her
21:31sobbing
21:32Mary it's the end
21:33of an era
21:34we had something special
21:43and it felt
21:47and it felt like
21:47it just all went to
21:48sort of
21:49I'm not bitter
21:51anymore
21:51I'm not angry
21:52I'm glad you and I
21:53got that figured out
21:54you know until the next guy
21:56you know you're
21:56you're
21:57when you
21:57if you marry again
21:58and everything like that
21:59I've just
21:59it's gotta
22:00I mean I
22:01I won't be weird
22:02about it
22:03even though that got
22:04weird I'm sorry
22:05would you be the
22:07flower girl
22:08no I get a walker
22:10down the aisle
22:11yeah it was just like
22:13it was a
22:14an awareness
22:15that it was all over
22:16that this was the end
22:18kind of more
22:19having to do with
22:19the whole family
22:20and everything
22:20we treated each other
22:25good
22:25and we treated
22:26each other bad
22:27and in the end
22:28we remembered a lot
22:29of the bad
22:29during the breakup
22:30and then
22:31when you're friends
22:32again
22:32you remember
22:33more of the good
22:34and you go
22:35yeah we shouldn't
22:36be together
22:36but boy
22:37there was
22:39special times
22:40I just want to know
22:42what do you think
22:43that was all about
22:44was that confusing
22:45for Mary
22:45to
22:47I don't
22:48to experience that
22:49like
22:49I don't know
22:50I don't know
22:51I asked him
22:52he told me about it
22:53and I was like
22:54why
22:57you know
22:58like
22:59because I'm
23:03in my head
23:03it's like
23:04you could have
23:04figured this out
23:06with her
23:06like why are you
23:07getting emotional
23:08and he was like
23:09it's just an end
23:10of an era
23:11it's nostalgia
23:12it was
23:13and I was like
23:13okay
23:15were you surprised
23:17at his reaction
23:18it was very confusing
23:19to me
23:20I was like
23:21what is happening
23:22here
23:23I am so
23:25confused
23:26you look confused
23:28and you're almost
23:29inquisitive
23:30I mean
23:31yeah
23:31that's right
23:31were you confused
23:32I was
23:33I remember
23:34that moment
23:35and I was like
23:36I'm just gonna
23:38let this play out
23:39I don't know
23:41what it is
23:41I don't know
23:42what these emotions
23:43are
23:43he's like
23:44we had something
23:45special
23:45you know
23:46and like
23:47was he talking
23:48about me
23:50and him
23:50was he talking
23:51about the whole
23:52family
23:52was he talking
23:53you know
23:53and it could have
23:54been either
23:54I don't know
23:55he's in there
23:56sobbing
23:57I got it
23:57it made me so mad
23:58well what did you
23:59think about that
24:00when he was getting
24:00that emotional
24:01yeah
24:01I'm like
24:01you know what buddy
24:02you need to turn
24:03a mirror on yourself
24:04and you need to
24:05look at yourself
24:06good and hard
24:06you wonder what
24:07ended this era
24:08and it was you
24:10you picked favorites
24:11he picked favorites
24:13he did
24:14and then he tried
24:15to pretend like
24:15it wasn't true
24:16and it was all us
24:17and it was
24:17not even
24:18and you can't do that
24:19you just can't do it
24:21and
24:21come on
24:23he's just playing
24:23a game with her heart
24:24right there
24:25you're leaving
24:26but let me be like
24:27let me be so vulnerable
24:29and open with you
24:30he's like
24:31he's been stringing her along
24:32for years
24:33and years
24:33and years
24:34and then he turns around
24:35and does this
24:36disrespectful
24:37completely
24:38that is rude
24:40yeah
24:40that was rude
24:41I mean
24:42I get that I'm
24:43his favorite ex-wife
24:44and I get that
24:46he wants to walk me
24:47down the aisle
24:47when I get married
24:48that's really a lot
24:50how did you feel
24:51when he said that
24:52that was weird
24:53would you want him
24:54to do that
24:55um
24:55no I don't think so
24:57no
24:58no
25:00and
25:01uh
25:02yeah no
25:03mm-mm
25:03no
25:05mm-mm
25:06but he feels
25:10the more weird it is
25:11it's like
25:12what
25:12no
25:12mm-mm
25:13I hope I get to
25:14walk you down the aisle
25:15that's an honorable role
25:18what are you talking about
25:20no
25:21you broke her heart
25:22over and over
25:23and over
25:24and over
25:24and over
25:25and over
25:25and over
25:26you don't get to do that
25:28that's
25:28you don't treat people
25:29like that
25:29mm-hmm
25:30I'm embarrassed for him
25:31I'm embarrassed for him
25:32to see stuff like that
25:33he and I actually had a conversation
25:35a couple weeks ago
25:36okay
25:37and he said to me
25:39I'm
25:39I'm still grieving
25:40the loss of our marriage
25:42I'm grieving
25:43and I said
25:43Cody
25:44you don't get to tell me that
25:46and he said
25:48yes I do
25:48and I said
25:49no you don't
25:50after all of the things
25:51that you've said about me
25:52on the show
25:53and in public
25:55and to the world
25:56about how you never loved me
25:58and
25:59all these very hurtful things
26:01you don't get to tell me
26:02that you're grieving
26:03if you are grieving
26:04you figure that
26:06out on yourself
26:06this is an example
26:07of me
26:08giving it back to him
26:09to carry
26:10he doesn't get to burden me down
26:12with his grief
26:13of our relationship
26:15after all of
26:16the things
26:18that he said
26:18if
26:19I'm not saying
26:20he can't grieve
26:21he just can't bring it to me
26:22this is
26:23this is a confusion
26:24this is the confusion
26:26that I talk about
26:27like
26:28mixed signals
26:29that you've gotten
26:30throughout your whole marriage
26:31yeah
26:32yeah
26:34why does he do that
26:36I don't know
26:36that's a him question
26:37I can't even
26:39I can't even
26:40pretend to
26:41be able to answer that
26:42do we need to say anymore
26:44we're broken up
26:45it's over
26:46now we're just friends
26:47I don't ever
26:48need to
26:50reconcile
26:51with Mary
26:52and then let me say
26:54okay
26:55a lot of people
26:56have
26:57an opinion
26:58and it's already
26:59established
27:00and what they're
27:02going to do
27:02is they're going to
27:03come at me
27:03whether it's Mary
27:05whether it's you
27:06and
27:08I'm going to use
27:08this word
27:09I don't mean
27:10to use it
27:11but you're
27:11she
27:13anybody
27:13is going
27:14to gaslight
27:15me
27:16until
27:16I say
27:18what you
27:20already believe
27:21with your bias
27:22and that would be
27:23Mary
27:23Janelle
27:24Christine
27:24whatever
27:26I have my own
27:27bias
27:27because we're
27:29not going to
27:29agree
27:30ever
27:31we're not
27:32going to reconcile
27:33why we broke up
27:34but we can
27:36agree
27:37to be friends
27:39and we can
27:40agree
27:41to stop
27:42talking about
27:43why
27:44because we all
27:45had our reasons
27:46coming up
27:47the lies
27:48and manipulation
27:50and being used
27:51and being ill-treated
27:53all of the
27:54mind games
27:55and everything
27:56just to be able
27:57to stand up
27:57on your own
27:58it's hard to leave
27:59it's hard to know
28:01that you have to leave
28:02here we go
28:09stand by
28:10you know
28:11when you meet
28:12your ex-wife's
28:13boyfriend
28:13it can feel
28:14a little daunting
28:15and this next clip
28:16it feels like
28:17you guys
28:18are all
28:19very awkward
28:19I want you
28:21to look at the clip
28:21look at the body
28:22I have to explain
28:23I remember the whole thing
28:24okay
28:24the issue
28:25really was
28:26just being nervous
28:27about being in the
28:28presence of Christine
28:29with some of our kids again
28:31and the intimidation
28:34of a potentially
28:35overwhelmingly
28:36handsome individual
28:37okay
28:38David
28:38yeah
28:39and the experience
28:42was
28:42and I mean
28:44so there was
28:45some trepidation
28:46but the experience
28:47itself was
28:48absolutely pleasant
28:49okay
28:50it was
28:50Christine was
28:51kind of swinging
28:52off of his arm
28:52a little bit
28:53which I thought
28:54was all good
28:55and healthy
28:55and when I say that
28:57I mean like
28:57she was into him
28:58which I thought
28:59was great
28:59no but it kind of
29:00felt a little awkward
29:01watching it
29:02it did
29:03the meeting
29:04the meeting
29:04it was
29:05it was just
29:06you were trying
29:07to connect
29:07but it was awkward
29:08frankly
29:10if we would have
29:11all been
29:11benevolent enough
29:12to be able to
29:13handle it
29:13it would have been
29:14better over at dinner
29:15like just get to
29:16know him
29:16you know
29:17but Christine
29:18and I
29:18have not spoken
29:20except for
29:21right there
29:22in
29:23well at this time
29:25it might have been
29:26two years
29:26this is the first time
29:27I'm actually really
29:28talking to her
29:29can we watch the clip
29:30because I'm going to
29:30show you what we all saw
29:32and it felt a little awkward
29:33I know you
29:34it was a little awkward
29:35I thought it was easy
29:36it was smooth
29:38let's watch the clip
29:39he was more comfortable
29:40for me than Christine was
29:41let's put it that way
29:42you want to watch the clip
29:43not really
29:44let's watch the clip
29:45let's skip the clips
29:47and talk about it
29:48because I know what happened
29:48Gwendolyn is engaged
29:50you're watching the clips
29:50they're throwing her
29:51an engagement party
29:52and Cody and I
29:54have been invited
29:54we're
29:55going
29:57he told Gwendolyn
29:58he wasn't coming
29:59now suddenly he's coming
30:00and Robin's coming
30:02so
30:03it adds another level
30:05of complication
30:06I found one line
30:07she stalked me
30:09I stalked him
30:09better be careful
30:10about that
30:11our family's separating
30:12and now Christine
30:15dating
30:15is just a little bit weird
30:18I have only seen Christine
30:19with Cody
30:21ever
30:22I love you
30:23I love you too
30:24it's better on the other side
30:26isn't it
30:27I don't know
30:29I don't know
30:31I recognize that Christine
30:35is really trying to cheer me on
30:36but she and I are not
30:38in a relationship
30:40where I'm comfortable
30:41opening up to her
30:42how's it going?
30:43my boyfriend David
30:44David
30:44nice to meet you
30:45hey Cody
30:46Robin
30:47David
30:47I still need you
30:49how long have you guys
30:51been dating?
30:52I have almost two months
30:53we've known
30:54we've known each other
30:55for a little bit
30:55before that
30:56no
30:56you've seen the kids
30:58you know the kids
30:59he babysat them
31:01by himself
31:02while we went
31:02and got pedicures
31:03yeah
31:03wow
31:04the first thing he said
31:05is I heard you
31:07hold my grandkids
31:08oh yeah
31:09and McElty says
31:10well he did more than that
31:11he babysat them
31:12and he got
31:14really red in the face
31:15what was interesting
31:16is David made
31:17more eye contact
31:17with Robin
31:18and talked to Robin
31:19way more than me
31:20Christine was kind of
31:21swinging off of his arm
31:23which was probably appropriate
31:24and then you
31:26put your head
31:27on my shoulder
31:28and that guy
31:29caught even more red
31:30and I'm like
31:30okay
31:31frankly it's just
31:33one of those
31:33cringy moments
31:34where you just
31:35grit your teeth
31:36survive it
31:38okay
31:38so it was
31:40it was cringy
31:40from the beginning
31:41to the end
31:42but I thought David
31:43was fine
31:43yeah
31:43I mean just
31:44it was
31:44did you feel
31:45red in the face
31:46did you feel
31:46like it was
31:47a little uncomfortable
31:47I think he's
31:48making stuff up
31:49I just
31:50no
31:50so it wasn't
31:52it
31:52I just
31:53like her
31:54hugging David
31:55didn't bother me
31:56at all
31:56I wanted her to
31:57I mean
31:57she's gone
31:58she's out of my life
32:00I just want her
32:00to be happy
32:01yeah
32:01and the idea
32:02of her falling in love
32:03is great
32:04because she'll stop
32:04talking about me
32:05I just
32:06that is such a
32:07backhanded thing
32:08to say
32:09is that really
32:10backhanded
32:11a little bit
32:11it's true
32:12it's a little
32:13backhanded
32:14it's like every time
32:15that they're courting
32:15on the show
32:16I'm like going
32:17oh gosh
32:18okay good
32:18I can relax
32:19I love their courtship
32:22okay
32:22because it's
32:23it just lets me relax
32:25I get to watch
32:25an old friend
32:26fall in love
32:27I can forget
32:28about all the past
32:29hurts and everything
32:30like that
32:30I'm watching him
32:31fall in love
32:32and I'm enjoying it
32:34I was frustrated
32:35he was coming
32:35just because he told
32:36Gwendolyn before
32:37he wasn't going to be there
32:37and then suddenly
32:38day of
32:39he's like I'm going
32:39to go ahead
32:40and be there
32:40so that's why
32:41I was frustrated
32:41so he had a whole level
32:42of
32:43yeah
32:43and I wish
32:44he would have
32:44gone the whole time
32:44I wish he would have
32:45the very beginning
32:46when he got the invitation
32:47called Gwendolyn
32:48said hey I'll be there
32:49and then she would have
32:50known from the very beginning
32:51that he would have been there
32:52but we didn't know
32:52he was going to be there
32:53and then we didn't know
32:54who was going to bring Robin
32:55we just didn't know
32:56and then suddenly
32:57day of
32:57and it was like
32:58okay we have to reset
32:59the whole thing
33:00because that's what
33:00he likes to do
33:01he likes to say
33:01last minute
33:02that this is what
33:03he's going to do
33:04and he's going to be there
33:04and it just upsets everything
33:05so anyway
33:06David was like chill
33:07he's like
33:08it's going to be fine girl
33:09it's going to be fine
33:10it's all good
33:10do you think it was fair
33:11for Christine to say
33:12you guys coming at it
33:14a layer of complication
33:15um
33:17I mean
33:19it did
33:20yeah
33:21it's fair
33:21you know
33:22it creates
33:23it is
33:24I mean I'm sure she wants
33:25this is kind of how
33:26it goes in divorce though
33:27like you want them
33:29to stay away
33:30from everything
33:30and I'm like
33:31yeah sorry
33:32you share kids
33:33you share a life
33:34whether you are doing it
33:35in a nice way
33:36or a not so nice way
33:37it's just how it goes
33:38so you just kind of
33:38ripped the bandaid off
33:39and you walked in
33:40it's just like
33:41this is how it is
33:42you know
33:42you just have to kind of like
33:44deal with the
33:46the awkwardness of it
33:47it just doesn't go away
33:48unless you decide to
33:50kind of get more
33:51comfortable with each other
33:51so
33:52and I feel like you guys
33:53were getting comfortable
33:53like what did you think
33:54about David
33:55I thought it was nice
33:56yeah
33:56yeah I didn't have
33:57a problem with him
33:57Cody didn't go red
33:59I mean
33:59Cody's already red
34:00I mean like
34:01have you seen his complexion
34:03he's just red
34:03the other thing
34:04that I saw in this clip
34:05was Mary
34:06Mary was there
34:07and that was the first time
34:08she got to meet David
34:09tell me about that meeting
34:10with Mary's hard
34:11because Mary and I
34:12don't have a close relationship
34:13I didn't know
34:14where she was at exactly
34:16but it was more like
34:17girl
34:17it's so much better
34:19to be done
34:20with all of the lies
34:22and manipulation
34:23and being used
34:25and being ill treated
34:27all of the
34:28mind games
34:29and everything
34:30just to be able
34:31to stand up
34:31on your own
34:32it's hard to leave
34:33it's hard to know
34:34that you have to leave
34:36it almost felt like
34:37in that clip
34:37you were very unsure
34:38you just didn't know
34:40you were like
34:40I don't even know
34:42how to even
34:43process that
34:44yeah I think
34:44Christine was being
34:45really cool
34:46and I think
34:46she was trying
34:47to cheer me on
34:48did you appreciate that
34:49I appreciated it
34:51but I also
34:51didn't fully
34:52there's not trust
34:55between me
34:56and Christine
34:57to really accept it
34:59do you think
35:00there'll ever be
35:00a time where
35:01you guys can all
35:01sit together
35:02and be like
35:02okay
35:03I don't know
35:03do you want that
35:05I think it would
35:06be cool
35:06but I think
35:07it would take
35:07a lot
35:08and it would
35:09really
35:09be sad
35:11if it would
35:12take
35:13the fact that
35:14we all left
35:15to be able
35:15to do that
35:16coming up
35:17you know
35:18we just haven't
35:19healed that much
35:20I
35:20have you seen
35:21each other
35:22that much
35:22to heal
35:23maybe that
35:26would be
35:26a first step
35:27yeah maybe
35:29yeah
35:32maybe not
35:33not
35:37I knew
35:44Christine had
35:44a boyfriend
35:45because she
35:45introduced him
35:46to me
35:46and David's
35:48great
35:48I think he's
35:49probably a decent
35:50person
35:50I just don't
35:51know anything
35:52other than
35:53do you want
35:54to know
35:54something about
35:55them
35:55do you want
35:55to have a
35:56relationship
35:56with them
35:56could you
35:57see yourself
35:58possibly go out
35:58on a double
35:59date in a couple
35:59of years
36:00if Christine
36:01will
36:01and get to
36:02know each
36:02other
36:03I think
36:04okay
36:05I don't
36:06know
36:06I think
36:07personally I think
36:09I'm very forgiving
36:09and I think
36:10that'd be really
36:11easy for me
36:11here's the thing
36:12I've had
36:14conversations
36:15with David
36:15since
36:16that just
36:17was kind of
36:18like enjoyed
36:19his company
36:19okay
36:20and I
36:20I had a
36:22dirty thought
36:22I thought
36:23David and I
36:24should go on
36:24a guy's trip
36:25together
36:25and then I
36:27went no
36:27that would
36:28just be so
36:29uncool
36:30to Christine
36:30yeah
36:31I might have
36:32to agree
36:32that wouldn't
36:33be cool
36:34I just thought
36:34no not at all
36:35I mean because
36:36I just thought
36:36that would
36:37absolutely not
36:38be fair in
36:39any way
36:39right
36:40but you
36:40you did
36:40make the
36:41comment that
36:41David only
36:42made eye
36:42contact with
36:43Robin
36:43did you feel
36:44that maybe
36:44Robin's
36:45very easy
36:45to talk
36:45to
36:46I think
36:46he was
36:47nervous
36:47well no
36:48I think
36:48honestly
36:49David wanted
36:51us to know
36:52that he was
36:53a family man
36:53that he had
36:54grandchildren
36:55that he was
36:56a cool dad
36:56I felt like
36:57he was trying
36:58to prove to her
36:59that he was
36:59a stand-up guy
37:00and I didn't
37:01know why
37:02specifically
37:03you know what
37:04in a whole
37:04other world
37:05in universe
37:06I thought
37:06it would be
37:07nice if
37:07you know
37:08Cody and
37:09David could
37:10get along
37:10and just
37:11be buddies
37:11you know
37:11eventually
37:12kind of a
37:13thing
37:13you know
37:13Cody makes
37:14the same
37:14thing
37:14I'm sure
37:15it'll happen
37:16it's got
37:16to happen
37:16sometime
37:17Cody actually
37:17mentioned going
37:18on a guy
37:18strip with
37:19David
37:19possibly
37:19what do you
37:21think about
37:21that
37:22you'd have
37:23a good time
37:23we could do
37:24that
37:24you'd have a
37:25good time
37:25a few rules
37:26that need to be
37:26changed
37:27what are the rules
37:29that's between
37:32Cody and I
37:33oh wow
37:34I'd like to know
37:35I'd like to know
37:36what the rules are
37:37but you know
37:38it felt like
37:39you know
37:39when you were
37:39when you were
37:40talking
37:40you know
37:42Cody mentioned
37:42that you were
37:42just looking at
37:43Robin
37:43were you just
37:44looking at
37:44Robin
37:44or were you
37:45just kind of
37:45trying to connect
37:46no anybody
37:47knows me
37:48I'm a people
37:48person
37:49I was trying
37:50to make a
37:50conversation
37:51I've never
37:51met him before
37:52so
37:53did it feel
37:54like trial
37:55by fire
37:55in some way
37:56like you know
37:57it just needed
37:57to get it done
37:58yeah
37:58I was just
37:58excited also
37:59to have it
38:00done
38:00they need to
38:01meet
38:01David's gonna
38:02be in my
38:02life
38:03for the rest
38:03of my life
38:03Cody's in
38:04my life
38:04for the rest
38:05of my life
38:05so it's like
38:06they just
38:06needed to
38:07meet
38:07everybody
38:08needed to
38:08meet
38:08and I
38:09was excited
38:09just get
38:10that done
38:10with
38:10well would
38:11you ever
38:11consider
38:12going on
38:12a double
38:12date
38:13in the future
38:13in the future
38:14yes
38:15right now
38:15no
38:15but in the
38:16future
38:16yes
38:17honestly
38:18I'd have to
38:19talk a lot
38:19about it
38:20beforehand
38:20and just
38:21be like
38:21I mean
38:21I'd be a mess
38:22before
38:22I would be
38:23I'd be like
38:23I don't know
38:24I don't know
38:24if I can do
38:25this
38:25and David
38:26would be like
38:26it's gonna be
38:27okay
38:27you're gonna
38:28be fine
38:28I'm here
38:29I got you
38:29he's a lot
38:30of nervousness
38:31about that
38:31I'm a lot
38:32of nervousness
38:32about being
38:33around them
38:33right now
38:34nervousness
38:34over
38:35what is that
38:36nervousness
38:37from
38:37because who
38:39he thinks
38:40I am
38:40isn't me
38:41when he
38:42says that
38:43I
38:44you know
38:44smack talk
38:45I talk bad
38:46about him
38:47behind his
38:47back
38:47and
38:48I never
38:49wanted to
38:50live
38:50like me
38:51and I was
38:51this way
38:51with Robin
38:52and he
38:52says all
38:53these things
38:53about me
38:54that aren't
38:54true
38:54he doesn't
38:55know who
38:55I am
38:55so for me
38:56to go
38:57into a room
38:57and be like
38:57look I
38:58wasn't married
38:58to you
38:58for 26
38:59years
38:59you should
39:00know
39:00who I
39:01am
39:01but he
39:02doesn't
39:02know
39:02he keeps
39:03on saying
39:03things
39:04that I
39:04hear
39:05and I
39:06don't like
39:06what he
39:06says about
39:07me
39:07and liked
39:08what he
39:08has said
39:08about me
39:09for years
39:10so do I
39:11want to
39:11be around
39:12that
39:12no
39:12no I
39:13don't
39:13is that
39:14because
39:14possibly
39:15you were
39:16trying to
39:16be a
39:16different
39:16person
39:17in the
39:17relationship
39:18than what
39:18maybe Cody
39:19wanted
39:19no it's
39:20because I
39:20gave it
39:20my all
39:21yeah
39:21I gave
39:22it
39:23everything
39:24everything
39:25that I
39:25was
39:26everything
39:26that I
39:27did
39:27was for
39:28the
39:28family
39:28whatever
39:29he needed
39:30I did
39:31because when
39:31I do
39:31anything
39:32I am
39:32all
39:33in
39:33and for
39:34him to
39:35dissect
39:35that and
39:36say it
39:36was anything
39:36less for
39:37me
39:37I mean I
39:40have a good
39:40relationship
39:41with Mary
39:41and I
39:44still am not
39:45talking with
39:45Christine
39:46are we going to
39:48fix that
39:48I don't know
39:49we all certainly
39:51hope so
39:51yeah
39:53she wants to
39:53fix it
39:54she sat here
39:54on the couch
39:55she literally
39:56sat here on the couch
39:57remember the
39:57conversation that you
39:58had and you
39:59said you'd love to
39:59take David out on
40:00a guy's weekend
40:03yeah that's just
40:04it wouldn't be
40:04cool
40:05oh he was
40:05kind of up
40:06for it
40:06really
40:06yeah
40:07and she
40:08actually said
40:09yeah
40:10a possible
40:10double date
40:11in the future
40:11she was open
40:13to it
40:13you know
40:14we just
40:14haven't healed
40:15that much
40:16I
40:16have you
40:17seen each
40:17other that
40:18much
40:18to heal
40:19maybe that
40:22would be a
40:22first step
40:22yeah
40:24maybe
40:24yeah
40:27maybe not
40:29why
40:30personal reasons
40:31maybe not
40:34having the
40:35first date
40:36or maybe not
40:36having
40:37a double
40:38date
40:38no
40:39no
40:41Christine's
40:41very undermining
40:42I don't think
40:43so
40:43I just
40:44I don't want
40:45to discuss
40:46it
40:46because
40:47why don't
40:48you meet
40:48her where
40:48she's at
40:49what is this
41:14there's a hair
41:15on me
41:15oh
41:15I don't know
41:17if it was an
41:17action of
41:18I'm discarding
41:19no
41:19I'm just
41:20not
41:20I'm just
41:26you said
41:30she has a
41:30way of
41:30undermining
41:31that's your
41:31that's your
41:32intrepidation
41:33I'm trying
41:42to
41:42trying to
41:46understand
41:46there's
41:52nothing left
41:53to say
41:53right now
41:54about that
41:55are we
41:58gonna do a
41:58stare down
41:59competition
41:59because I'll
42:00stare back
42:01at you
42:01I'm just
42:01staring
42:02because there's
42:02nothing to
42:03say
42:03next time
42:09on sister
42:10wives
42:10one-on-one
42:11why is there
42:11so much
42:12distress
42:12over a
42:13coyote
42:13pass
42:14we just
42:15haven't
42:16proven to
42:16each other
42:17that we
42:18can trust
42:18each other
42:19so now
42:19it's like
42:20well who's
42:20gonna have
42:21my back
42:22jenna asks me
42:22about the
42:23property all
42:23the time
42:23but I don't
42:24trust her
42:24so I don't
42:25give her
42:26any information
42:26he always
42:27seems to
42:27come out
42:27ahead
42:28financially
42:28on a
42:29deal
42:29I think
42:30he really
42:30is just
42:31kind of
42:31inherently
42:31selfish
42:32their
42:32favorite
42:32thing
42:33about
42:33each
42:33other
42:33that he
42:34puts
42:34your
42:35luggage
42:35on the
42:36luggage
42:36rack
42:36that used
42:37to be a
42:37thing that
42:37Chrissy and I
42:38complained about
42:39it's a metaphor
42:39for everything else
42:41in our relationship
42:41everything else in our marriage
42:42all right the question I'm gonna ask you is do you get the luggage
42:44rack my gosh this is so stupid
42:46I think appearance was super important to him and it was appearance not just of
42:50himself but of everybody and I think he was so
42:52concerned about what other people thought of the outside
42:55that it just lost focus that it's really the inside
42:58I hope they find happiness because the constant comparison is going to spoil their lives
43:03why the hell is Christine sitting there talking to her husband about her ex
43:09Robin and I are accused all the time that all we ever wanted was each other
43:12it's just it's just bs it's internet bs it's just crappy commentary on our family
43:20I think he really just needs to somehow justify all the reasons that Robin's so perfect for him
43:27do you still believe in polygamy I if I had some sort of guarantee
43:33and Kody was up for it
43:35chỉ có duy nhất một điều trên đời này lại hành
43:38thời gian hóa ra mất khiêm chưa biết bao nhiêu rồi chúng tôi đi xuôi sông Saône cho đến thành phố Lyon
43:47đến đây tôi thấy có một điều khó nghĩ thực sự thì khi Nga đi xuôi sông Saône hay đi ngược nói cách khác
43:55bà Milligan đã xuống miền Nam nước Pháp hay qua thị sĩ rồi
44:01Huyền bè đi lại như mắc cự trên sông Hône và sông Saône
44:07người ta có thể không nhìn thấy chiếc khiên Nga
44:13chúng tôi hỏi thăm rất nhiều bác tài lái khiền và hỷ hũ trên sông hỏi cả những người ở trên bờ
44:17cuối cùng chúng tôi biết rằng chắc rằng bà Milligan đã qua thị sĩ
44:23thế là chúng tôi đi ngược sông Hône
44:27nhìn thấy không pentru
44:35bà Milligan nhìn thấy không ưới nhìn thấy không ạ
44:43vì chiếc thị sĩ
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