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FULL: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries Speaks To CNN's Dana Bash About Trump's 'Big Ugly Bill'
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6/1/2025
On Sunday, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) spoke to CNN's Dana Bash about the Republican budget that narrowly passed the House.
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Here with me now is the House Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries.
00:04
Thank you so much for being here this morning, sir.
00:06
I want to start with that bill.
00:08
You have vowed to keep the pressure on and stop it from becoming law.
00:13
Obviously, you're in the minority.
00:15
Same goes with Democrats in the Senate.
00:17
How will you do that?
00:20
Trump's one big, ugly bill narrowly escaped the House of Representatives,
00:24
and we're going to continue to press our case across the country,
00:27
partner with Senate Democrats in making clear to the American people
00:32
the type of damage that this bill would do if it ever became law.
00:36
This bill actually hurts everyday Americans in order to reward billionaires.
00:43
It would strip away health care from approximately 14 million Americans.
00:47
Premiums, co-pays, and deductibles for tens of millions more will go up.
00:53
Actually, if it ever were to be implemented into law,
00:56
hospitals will close, nursing homes will shut down, and people will literally die.
01:02
At the same time, this bill represents the largest cut to nutritional assistance in American history.
01:10
It takes food out of the mouths of children, seniors, and veterans,
01:14
and all of this is being done in order to enact massive tax breaks
01:19
for their billionaire donors like Elon Musk,
01:21
and then they want to stick the American people with the bill,
01:24
increase the debt by more than $5 trillion.
01:28
So I expect that you'll see strong Democratic opposition in the Senate,
01:34
just like there was strong Democratic opposition in the House,
01:36
and the bill just narrowly escaped the House of Representatives.
01:40
You made these arguments before it passed the House.
01:44
Democrats are going to make that argument in the Senate.
01:46
But again, you don't have the votes.
01:48
So what makes you think that what you're saying will prevail and change the outcome?
01:54
The bill is deeply unpopular.
01:56
If you go back to where we were in 2017,
01:59
where Republicans, after several failed attempts,
02:03
finally got their effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act
02:06
out of the House of Representatives,
02:08
but it limped out of the House and then failed in the Senate.
02:11
And I think the one big, ugly bill is setting up for a similar fate,
02:16
but we can't let our foot off the gas pedal.
02:19
I want to ask you about something that happened in your home state of New York
02:23
In the past couple of days, Congressman Jerry Nadler said that DHS agents
02:29
entered his congressional office on Wednesday without a warrant
02:33
and handcuffed a member of his staff.
02:35
This, of course, comes after the Trump Justice Department
02:38
charged Democratic Congresswoman LaMonica MacGyver
02:42
with obstructing ICE agents after an altercation at a facility in Newark, New Jersey.
02:47
Now, I know you previously warned that the administration charging members of Congress
02:51
was a, quote, red line.
02:53
What are you doing now that the red line you talked about
02:57
has apparently been crossed?
03:00
Well, let me make clear that the House is a separate
03:03
and co-equal branch of government, the Congress.
03:06
We don't work for Donald Trump.
03:07
We don't work for the administration.
03:09
We don't work for Elon Musk.
03:10
We work for the American people.
03:11
And we have a responsibility to serve as a check and balance
03:15
on an out-of-control executive branch.
03:18
That's the constitutional blueprint that was given to us
03:22
by the framers of the United States democracy
03:26
that we have inherited over the last few centuries.
03:29
And so we're going to continue to undertake our congressional responsibility,
03:33
notwithstanding efforts by the Trump administration,
03:35
to try to intimidate Democrats.
03:38
It's unfortunate that our Republican colleagues continue to be nothing more
03:41
than rubber stamps for Trump's reckless and extreme agenda.
03:46
And the American people, I think, will ultimately reject that next year
03:50
when we will take back control of the House of Representatives.
03:53
In the meantime, in terms of how we will respond
03:56
to what Trump and the administration has endeavored to do,
04:00
we will make that decision in a time, place, and manner of our choosing.
04:06
But the response will be continuous,
04:09
and it will meet the moment that is required.
04:12
What exactly does that mean?
04:15
Have you not decided how to respond?
04:19
We've publicly responded in a variety of different ways.
04:22
We haven't let our foot off the gas pedal
04:25
in terms of additional things that may take place
04:27
with respect to our congressional oversight authority and capacity.
04:32
We will respond in a time, place, and manner of our choosing
04:37
if this continues to happen.
04:41
You believe, as Jerry Nadler said,
04:43
that the administration is trying to intimidate Democrats?
04:49
I think the administration is clearly trying to intimidate Democrats
04:52
in the same way that they're trying to intimidate the country.
04:54
This whole shock and awe strategy,
04:56
this flood the zone with outrageous behavior
04:59
that they've tried to unleash on the American people
05:02
during the first few months of the Trump administration
05:04
is all designed to create the appearance of inevitability.
05:09
But Donald Trump has learned an important lesson.
05:11
The American people aren't interested in bending the knee
05:13
to a wannabe king.
05:15
It's the reason why Donald Trump actually
05:17
is the most unpopular president
05:20
at this point of a presidency in American history.
05:24
The American people have rejected this approach,
05:27
and we as congressional Democrats
05:29
will continue to reject this approach.
05:31
Mr. Leader, you brought up polls,
05:33
so let me tell you about a new one
05:35
that just came out here at CNN this morning.
05:37
It shows that only 19% of Americans
05:40
say that your party can get things done.
05:42
36% say the same about Republicans.
05:45
And just 16% say your party has strong leaders.
05:49
It's pretty rough, and you are one of those leaders.
05:52
How do you turn that around?
05:54
Yeah, we don't have the presidency right now,
05:57
so that's always going to be challenging
05:58
a few months after a presidential election.
06:01
But we have to continue to make the case,
06:03
one, that Democrats, of course,
06:05
are the party that is determined
06:07
to make life more affordable
06:09
for everyday Americans,
06:11
for hardworking American taxpayers,
06:13
that we believe that we need to lower
06:15
the high cost of living,
06:17
which for decades has been going up
06:20
while the size of the middle class
06:22
has been going down.
06:23
So, understandably, there's real frustration
06:26
amongst the American people.
06:27
They should be frustrated.
06:29
But they're frustrated with you as well,
06:31
with Democrats as well.
06:33
Of course, they're frustrated with the system.
06:36
But what is interesting, Dana,
06:38
I think you're aware of this,
06:39
every single public poll that has come out
06:42
since the Trump presidency
06:43
has had congressional Democrats
06:45
winning the generic ballot
06:47
against congressional Republicans.
06:49
And, in fact, we know this is not simply speculative.
06:52
In every single high-profile special election,
06:55
Iowa in January, New York in February,
06:59
Pennsylvania in March,
07:00
the Wisconsin state Supreme Court race in April,
07:03
and most recently in Omaha,
07:06
the mayor's race in May,
07:08
Democrats have won.
07:09
So, the American people are actually
07:11
being very clear and decisive
07:14
in saying who they trust more to govern.
07:20
We're going to have to leave it there.
07:21
Hakeem Jeffries,
07:22
the leader of the House Democrats,
07:24
appreciate you being here this morning.
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