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Mark Amodei To Coast Guard Admiral: Do You Expect To Get Billed By Navy For Supporting Interdiction?
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5/30/2025
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing last week, Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV) asked Coast Guard Admiral, Kevin Lunday if the Navy expects reimbursement for supporting interdiction missions.
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00:00
Admiral, I've got a couple areas I want to cover generally before we wrap up.
00:11
And these are ones that can be, I'd like you to kind of respond to us later, not at
00:17
the hearing.
00:19
I don't know what the mix should be for your mission in terms of manned versus unmanned
00:24
aircraft.
00:25
I think one of your biggest selling points is your personnel, folks sitting behind you
00:30
and you sitting there in front.
00:31
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.
00:34
But as we talk about making more, making less do more, and I'm not suggesting what the answer
00:40
is, but I think it's appropriate for us to have an idea of here's how that's being incorporated
00:47
as we go forward, especially in this new time when we talk about reconciliation, fiscal year
00:52
26, that sort of stuff.
00:54
So it's one of those things that we've checked on.
00:57
So I'm happy to talk with your folks offline about that.
01:06
Not that it'll be a secret, but we want to know that everybody else is talking about the
01:10
wonders of this and that in terms of as a force multiplier and those sorts of things.
01:15
So that's one of the boxes I think we need to check.
01:21
Shoreside infrastructure is always one of those things that's not sex and violence.
01:24
But nonetheless, when we talk about doing the right thing in terms of cutters, in terms
01:30
of regions, in terms of air operations and all that other sort of stuff, and it's not
01:35
a blame thing.
01:36
It's just a reality that shoreside infrastructure has not been the tip of the spear, if you will,
01:41
for a long time.
01:43
And that's, like I said, you've got your mission to do.
01:45
You've got to take care of your people.
01:46
You've got to take care of your equipment.
01:48
You've got all that stuff.
01:49
But nonetheless, it probably is an appropriate time to go, okay, as we sit here to jump off
01:56
in terms of potentially some historic funding in terms of reconciliation, as well as going
02:06
forward into the next fiscal year.
02:09
That's one of the areas I think we need to be able to say in our work product when somebody
02:12
goes, it's like, well, we've talked about that and here's what our understanding is.
02:17
And so that there's at least been a discussion and a consideration when the inevitable discussion
02:24
comes on the floor for the Homeland Bill, that we can say with some factual basis, I know
02:29
that's kind of novel these days in some quarters, but some factual basis, well, we've talked about
02:34
that and here's where we're at.
02:39
The Indo-Pacific is, God bless you, and by the way, shout out to your folks in District 11.
02:47
Who basically had the unenviable task of picking me up in Minden, Nevada, and a C-27 out of the
02:54
Sacramento base and getting me down to San Diego to look at everything you're doing as well
03:00
as some of the other folks down there.
03:04
Absolutely impressive organization of time and whatever.
03:09
So if anybody wants to go to San Diego for a break, don't have these guys do it for you
03:13
because we hit the ground running.
03:16
There were demonstrations in terms of Customs Border Patrol stuff on the aircraft on the
03:20
way down, right off onto the boats.
03:22
And listen, for a guy from a state without a coastline, that's kind of, it's a little scary,
03:29
you know, when you're, but I was in good hands and hats off to that command structure and those
03:34
folks all the way through the organization.
03:37
But as we look at that Indo-Pacific region, and you're talking about people swimming around
03:42
the fence, boats turning over and surf, people, you know, rolling them up on the beach and running,
03:48
and even some folks running through the yard of your commander down there.
03:53
It's a, it's, it's not a last post for retirement.
03:57
I, I, I understand that.
03:59
But as we talk about things a little farther offshore, obviously everybody focuses on the
04:04
Customs Border Patrol mission, but we want to make sure that we've, we've spent some time on.
04:10
So what's going on on the, on the mundane stuff like fishing, stuff like that, which is also
04:15
part of the mission, lucky you folks.
04:17
So, we need to, we need to make sure that, that, that we've kind of hit that.
04:25
And then, I think the questions regarding, regarding migrant interdiction have been pretty good.
04:33
The one thing I want to put on your folks' radar screen though, is one of our sayings here
04:39
is, is we won't surprise you and we don't want you to surprise us.
04:43
So, if, if you have an idea right now, I'd appreciate it.
04:48
And, maybe I shouldn't be nervous about it, but I'm nervous about, that's great that all,
04:52
that everything, all these assets are integrated with DOD and, and, and all these other agencies
04:57
and blah, blah, blah.
04:58
And when you talk about naval vessels, you know, in the Gulf or off the coast of San Diego,
05:03
and I'm sure there's drone technology being whatever and all that.
05:06
Do you expect to get billed by DOD or the individual services, Navy, Marines, you know,
05:16
when, when, when you see vehicles running around, air assets, rotary wing, drone, whatever
05:21
it is, do you expect to have any bills back to you from the Navy or whatever saying, hey,
05:28
love supporting you, here's the bill?
05:30
Thank you, Chairman.
05:33
With the respect to the two Navy ships that have been supporting us, we do not expect
05:38
any request for reimbursement for the Navy for those operations.
05:41
That's never been part of our discussion specific to those assets that are supporting us.
05:46
So, my ongoing request of you during this hearing is, as soon as the canary starts to
05:50
cough in that mine and somebody goes, hey, by the way, I hope you folks are, are, are saving
05:55
up because we're getting ready to send you a bill.
05:57
We need to know about it soonest because based on the information we've got so far, we're
06:03
not planning for any of that.
06:05
And so, you know, the old saying, it works in your mission as well as anybody's, forewarned
06:10
is forearmed.
06:11
So, we're thinking there's no warning due at the moment.
06:14
So, if any of that starts to change, comms needs to kick into, into active gear.
06:21
I understand, Mr. Chairman.
06:22
And I'll work with the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense to make
06:25
sure we tell you if that's changed.
06:27
Okay.
06:32
Last thing is, and every organ, every federal organization that I'm aware of struggles with
06:36
this, and, and I like what I've heard so far, but obviously you've, you've got the
06:41
right concern regarding, hey, we've got to take care of our folks with all this stuff.
06:46
So, the challenge will be, and as, and as the ranking member of the full committee indicated
06:51
and the ranking member of this committee indicated, it's like, we've got to keep that balance
06:56
in terms of how we take care of our peeps with, obviously with equipment facilities, but
07:01
also with what's going on with, with recruiting, which I understand is, has ticked up a lot and
07:07
that's good.
07:08
But, obviously, along with all the other multitasking, I'm glad to hear that that's part of the deal
07:16
where we're, we're, we're trying to keep an eye on that and, and we'll continue to.
07:22
With that, I think I have missed Mr. Gonzalez.
07:26
The floor is yours for, for five minutes for questions.
07:29
Thank you, Chairman, for holding this hearing.
07:30
And thank you, Admiral, for being here.
07:32
I mean, just to piggyback off the Chairman, this is the committee that's, that wants to make
07:36
the chair of the Chairman's Office.
07:36
Thank you very much.
07:37
Thank you very much.
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