Harvey, Derek, and Jason break down Donald Trump’s surprising pardon of Todd and Julie Chrisley, unpacking the legal implications and what could be coming next.
00:00where the president says and pay back the restitution does the government eat
00:07that or do you go to the victims and do they have to pay it what do you mean does
00:11the government eat it in other words the victim you can't go to me and say oh
00:15meaning will the government let him keep it but pay the chrisleys no I don't know the answer to
00:20that will the government eat it and pay the chrisleys remission paid to a victim I don't
00:24know what the chrisleys thing was payment made to the victim cannot be clogged that's the DOJ
00:29but he said there's an exception if the president says it so there's another thing we want to talk
00:33about though there are fines that need to be paid to the government in addition to a crime so some
00:38crimes have with them jail time and a fine of this that fine okay tell her that fine likely is not
00:47wiped out is wiped out so even if you've already paid the fine you can reclaw that I don't know if
00:51the chrisleys got a fine they probably did but there's no vesting issue in a third party okay but
00:57but but but if the victim would be the bank probably or or well no no but you're saying
01:04two things if there's a fine the fine the government has to pay back the money that was
01:09yes if it's restitution yes the person doesn't have to pay it back or the institution doesn't
01:15have to pay back unless the president says that's to repay but my question is if the president says
01:21repay does the victim can you can you take that from the victim or does the government
01:28or does the government just eat it no it'd be clawed back from the victim so how do you get it
01:33from the victim you sue the victim so this would be in a case where you sue the victim yes this would
01:38be in a case imagine the scenario where I get it the bank the bank has turns out to be a bit no no
01:43what I'm saying is the president would do that in a case where it turns out the person was convicted
01:47actually probably didn't do it and the bank hold on hold on we're talking Donald Trump right now
01:51yes okay so that's bad actor that's all no no that's all irrelevant Donald Trump is pardoning
01:57the Chrisley's because the daughter spoke at the Republican convention and was supportive of Trump
02:03and in her petition she didn't talk about any of what you're saying of the crimes she talked about
02:10the support she gave Trump right okay so all of that's irrelevant right right yes okay so now the
02:16question is if the president orders the money back from the bank from presumably but but can he
02:24order the bank to pay back the money or does the government just eat it if that was a if that was
02:30a restitution order past part of the sanction not a civil order in addition civil he can't do
02:36anything about but it's a criminal order to pay restitution to the victims I don't know if this
02:41was we need to look at that then yes he could he could theoretically order that that restitution
02:46order is null and void and clawed only back from the bank and the government but but the government
02:52wouldn't need it I mean they could politically if they want to well no no they wouldn't know
02:56then the taxpayers have to bear I'm talking about the legal procedure the information we saw is
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