- 5/27/2025
Since graduating from drama school 2 years ago, Lewis has had some amazing opportunities in his acting career so far. He has starred in numerous feature films, TV shows, commercials and stage productions. Perhaps his most prestigious credit so far is portraying Tigger in the cult classic horror sequel ‘Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey 2’.
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00:00:38Biking, yeah.
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00:00:58We hope you're having a beautiful day today. Summer is just around the corner. Not sure what location you're in.
00:01:06How about you, Lewis? How's the weather where you are?
00:01:08It's bad today. Very bad. Very rainy. It's been sunny recently, but today is, yeah, not a good day today in the West Midlands of England.
00:01:18You dressed up for this opportunity. You look like, you look Gucci. You look like a superstar.
00:01:23Thank you. Appreciate that.
00:01:25Absolutely. We've got with us today, actor, soon, you're going to be producing, aren't you? Eventually?
00:01:33Yes. Yeah. Producing soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not too sure how much I can say about that, but yeah, a little something to cook in, to cook in.
00:01:42We'll get into those. We've got with us today, once again, actor, Lewis Santer, since graduating from drama school at two, drama school two years ago.
00:01:53Yeah. Two years ago. Yeah. Not even two years. Almost two years ago.
00:01:57I thought, I almost read that as though you, you, you, you finished acting school at the age of two.
00:02:06I read that and it's like two years ago.
00:02:08I'm that good. I'm that good.
00:02:10You're doing well for only two years. You've been doing this way longer. You probably kept your family extremely entertained as a young kid.
00:02:18Yeah. Yeah. That's how it all started.
00:02:22Yeah.
00:02:23Lewis has had some amazing opportunities in his acting career so far. He has starred in numerous feature films, TV shows, commercials, and stage productions.
00:02:33Perhaps his most prestigious credit so far is portraying Tigger in the cult classic horror sequel, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey 2.
00:02:45Ooh.
00:02:46Yeah.
00:02:47I don't know if I want to pick up another bowl of honey unless you're handing it to me.
00:02:53Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of fun.
00:02:58There's going to be a part three.
00:03:00Yes. Part three has been confirmed. We've got Pooh-niverse is the next one. And then part three is the one after takes place after Pooh-niverse, like the aftermath of Pooh-niverse.
00:03:12Part one did not have you in it, right?
00:03:15No. So it's really interesting because part one happened whilst I was at drama school. So I had no, I was not included in that at all. I had no sort of part in that.
00:03:24But Tigger wasn't actually public domain at the time either. So they couldn't even put Tigger in if they wanted yet because I think there's like a year left on the public domain.
00:03:32And then the minute I graduated from drama school and by the time I got the role and stuff, it then became public domain that year.
00:03:39So then when the film released, it was all good. You can have Tigger in your films. So, yeah, he couldn't be in the first one. So it was quite, it worked out well.
00:03:46But then, you know, the sequel was getting made and then I graduated. I was ready to go. And then it all happened.
00:03:51Congratulations.
00:03:54What exactly happens in drama school? Did you, honestly, what did you learn? Was it worth it?
00:04:03Yeah, it definitely was worth it because I did acting in stage combat. So I trained to do stunts for films and for stage and stuff like that.
00:04:10Because the reason I wanted to do that course was I was always an actor from about 11 years old. I did a lot of different clubs and theatre shows and stuff, local stuff.
00:04:18And then a lot of my friends, because I ran a lot of musical theatre, people always did acting, but they would be dancers and singers.
00:04:25And I was almost, not jealous, but almost like a bit like I want something else. Like I feel like a lot of these, a bit of dancing on the side, you know, singing on the side, whatever.
00:04:33And I was just an actor. I can't dance and I can't sing. So what can I do? So then I did this one year course when you try out stuff and then you can audition for a longer course.
00:04:42So I did that, got introduced to stage combat, fell in love with it and then went on to do three years of stage combat at the same acting school.
00:04:51But there's like this, there's obviously cons as well to drama school. Like I feel like a lot of actors say this, you can sort of go through drama school and it can try and put you into, mould you into this actor.
00:05:01But like sometimes as an actor you need that authentic sort of power there, you know, you need that organic sort of you, you need, you can't lose who you are.
00:05:09And I feel like sometimes people go through drama school and they lose that little bit because they try and speak perfectly, they try and move perfectly, try and look.
00:05:16Sometimes you need that little bit of messiness, that's just you. So I feel like that's one thing at drama school I tried to avoid was being shaped and moulded into this actor.
00:05:25Does that make sense? And try and keep to just the essence, I guess, of Lewis Santa. But it was definitely worth it.
00:05:31Like I'm very glad I went and the training, the technical training is really important. So yeah, I think it's worth it.
00:05:37Honestly, I learned more in four years of drama class in high school than I ever did taking a paid drama school.
00:05:49Unless it was a great school that you went to, is it for everyone? Do you recommend it?
00:06:01I think it depends on the person. I think a few years ago I probably would have said yes, go to drama school.
00:06:06But now being in the industry and meeting so many wonderful actors and the amount of people who say they never went to drama school, they just sort of represented themselves.
00:06:15And then someone picked them up from somewhere and now they're getting all these jobs and stuff.
00:06:18But there's some people that have gone to drama school and they're technically perfect.
00:06:22Does that make sense that they just know how to cater for a camera or something?
00:06:26So I think it depends on the person. I think if someone needs that technical training, I think that maybe it's worth it.
00:06:33If they've already got the confidence and they've already got the talent there, then I think maybe give the industry a go.
00:06:39If you don't want to learn any other skills, like I wanted to learn combat because I thought it helped me and it has helped me.
00:06:43I'm grateful I did that. But I feel like some people, if they feel like they're ready to go, then go.
00:06:49I think just try and wedge your way into the industry and not rely on training.
00:06:54And you can always go back to it. There's not like an age for it. So I think it depends on who you are, I think, and how ready you feel.
00:07:01And you're going to learn for the rest of your career.
00:07:06Yeah.
00:07:08Because every actor, every performer, every director, producer, they're all going to be different.
00:07:15Their training is going to be different. So your education is going to be even more now.
00:07:23Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And we had a tutor once, a tutor coming from Lambda, another drama school in England.
00:07:30But he stayed with us for about two weeks. That was it. He was like an external tutor.
00:07:34And he gave so much wisdom that I still use to this day. So many things he told me, which it sticks with me.
00:07:40And one of the things he said was he's a strong believer that some actors learn more on one day on set than the whole three years at drama school.
00:07:47Because a day on set is completely drama school.
00:07:50You have all this time to develop the character on set and it's a safe space.
00:07:55Mess up and you can obviously somewhat do that in the industry.
00:07:58But when you're in the industry, there's a lot more factors. There's money. There's time.
00:08:02There's like pressure from so many different departments. And you need to, you know, perform under that pressure.
00:08:08It's like drama school sometimes doesn't apply that pressure to performers.
00:08:11Sometimes you learn more just from like a day on set, a stressful day on set.
00:08:15Teach you what you need to know more than maybe four years of training, which is interesting.
00:08:20Did you have that in high school? Did you take acting class in high school at all?
00:08:24Yes, I did it in school. So I literally discovered I want to be an actor from about 11 years old.
00:08:29And I went on to secondary school and then I did it just as like a normal lesson.
00:08:32And none of my friends wanted to be actors. I was like the actor, one of the group, I guess.
00:08:36All my friends were like footballers and that's very sporty. I was more of a performer.
00:08:41And I was going to stay on at my school because I did like the sixth form, like an extra two years of just drama there.
00:08:47And I went on to actually do a performing arts college instead, which I'm proud I did that because that taught me a lot as well.
00:08:52But, yeah, I did it at school and I did like summer courses also at school.
00:08:56When we had time off, I'd go to Sylvia Young Theatre School in London. I did that a couple of years in a row.
00:09:01So even when I was not in school, I was always trying to get into clubs and little summer things just to just train more.
00:09:07And I just did it for the fun back then as well. I didn't even think of it as a career.
00:09:11Like when you're that age, 13, 14, you just think, I just enjoy doing this thing. I want to do as much as I can.
00:09:19Some of your most notable. Works are Mad Hatter in various of them all have not watched it yet.
00:09:29Sounds interesting. Yeah. Enjoy it.
00:09:33Yeah, yeah. It's a crazy film. Crazy. It's a crazy experience.
00:09:37It was quite a short shoot. It was like very mental. And yeah, it was good to play a character like Mad Hatter because people ask me a lot.
00:09:45Like, what's your dream role? And my dream role is the Joker. Like, I'd love to play the Joker.
00:09:50And to me, the way I played Mad Hatter was almost not completely how I play the Joker, but very similar.
00:09:56So for me, it felt like a little gift to the world, I guess, whoever watches it.
00:10:00Like a little indicator of this is how I want to play the Joker. So that's why.
00:10:04And the look as well had the Joker smile and all that. So I just loved the nature of the character.
00:10:09And it's a lot of fun to just sort of let loose with him.
00:10:12I would strongly advise that whoever you speak to, to keep planting that seed.
00:10:19Yeah.
00:10:20I appreciate what Joaquin Phoenix did for the film. Wasn't too happy the way the second part went.
00:10:28Yeah.
00:10:29Did you see the second one?
00:10:31Yeah, I've seen the second one. Yeah.
00:10:32We need you to reprise this.
00:10:35Yeah. Save it. Save the character.
00:10:39Yeah, it's interesting. It's such a cool character because so many people do so many different things with it.
00:10:44Like what Heath Ledger did and Jared Leto and Joaquin Phoenix, all these different, you know.
00:10:48And that's why it's so interesting because I've got my own little ideas in my head of how I'd play it.
00:10:52Like what would I give to this character?
00:10:54And that's why I'm so interested in having a chance to show the world that, you know, this is my take on it.
00:11:01You and I spoke about social media where we are at.
00:11:08Would you consider doing something for social media?
00:11:14Remember I told you Instagram is the IMDb, new IMDb.
00:11:19Yeah.
00:11:21Would you want to do something like that so that when someone sees your page and goes to your Instagram or your TikTok or all the above, Louis, they'll be like, yes.
00:11:29Because you don't ask people what to think. I learned in PR media, you tell them what to think and how to think.
00:11:35So in order to have that moment of, wow, we're going to trust Louis Santer as Joker, the same as though you can pull off a Machine Gun Kelly biopic.
00:11:47Yeah.
00:11:49Would you consider doing that?
00:11:51Yeah, I would. I've had this idea for a while now.
00:11:54I've been, I actually spoke to a director a little while ago on Instagram about it.
00:11:58And he's done like similar sort of short films.
00:12:01It's that kind of vibe of like a lot of horror sort of short films.
00:12:05And I've spoken to a few other directors as well about the possibility of like getting a short film done or something done of Me's the Joker.
00:12:12Something that wasn't, wouldn't be too long of a project and just something just to give just a few days of filming and little things to show the world.
00:12:19And I put it on Instagram and pin it to your profile and just like a showroom scene and just say, this is how I play this character.
00:12:26And I'm designed and then completely creative control then, you know, you can decide on the look of the character on everything.
00:12:33And it's funny you say that. So I've had that sort of idea before about doing that like a little short film.
00:12:39Very similar to what David Thornton did. He plays Arthur Clown.
00:12:42So he did like a similar Joker's Wild is called, I believe.
00:12:47And he did that. So he did like a little short film about Joker and he played him.
00:12:51And it was like his little, you know, gift to the world of how he would do it.
00:12:55And you never know. You never know if someone watches it and they're like, that's what I had in mind.
00:12:59And I'm actually about to make something with that kind of character or with the character, with the Joker.
00:13:04So, yeah, it's something I want to do. I'm looking into it.
00:13:07For those that are tuning in, we've got actor Lewis Santer, soon to be producer.
00:13:12I can't wait. Actually, I want you to get the producer credit for the Joker.
00:13:16Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:13:19I think you're going to be doing. Maybe even director.
00:13:22Yeah, director rights to produce everything.
00:13:26Many of your noteworthy marks in the entertainment film and TV is Tigger in Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey 2,
00:13:34Mad Hatter in Furious of them all. You did a commercial with Christophe Waltz.
00:13:40You want to tell us a little bit about that? That sounds interesting.
00:13:43Yeah, so I got that a few months into being, a few months after graduating.
00:13:47So it's quite a quick job I got. And it was crazy because he's in my top five actors.
00:13:52I've watched him for years since I was really young. I just adore him. I think he's amazing.
00:13:57So when I did this audition, this commercial, and he said, OK, commercial.
00:14:02And then my agent was like, no, this is different. It's with an A-list actor.
00:14:06I was like, OK, but I wouldn't know who it was. And I was like, oh, my God.
00:14:11So I did two rounds of audition for it, met the director, met everyone else.
00:14:15But apart from this A-list, they wouldn't tell me who it was. And then the night before I got the role, I got a call from my agent.
00:14:20And they said, yeah, by the way, it's Christophe Waltz. I was like, you don't want to be told it because you're like,
00:14:25if I don't get it now, then I'm going to be so gutted because I love him.
00:14:28And they got the call the next morning and they said, yeah, you got the role.
00:14:32Flew me out the following week, I think it was. And yeah, it was amazing.
00:14:35It was a full day of filming with him. And we had a little lunch break.
00:14:39We were chatting on our breaks and we had a lot of improv. It's a small little commercial scene.
00:14:44I've worked with the director before and he loves improv. He loves playing around.
00:14:48It was fun to play around with a guy like Christophe Waltz. And like he was throwing in ideas.
00:14:52I was throwing in ideas. Tom, the director, was throwing in ideas.
00:14:55And it was just a really magical experience. And yeah, it was just great to meet him and just share the screen with him.
00:15:01You may again, you dismay again. It's all about status.
00:15:04People want to hire someone like you who's got status.
00:15:09Yeah. I should have said to him, I'll see you again soon. Yeah. I'll see you at work.
00:15:14You will next time. I'm putting it out there.
00:15:18Yeah. We've got Dark Secrets, Game of Death, chapter two, performing at Shakespeare Globe.
00:15:26Many more. We're going to touch on those. I want to get to some really good questions.
00:15:34I'm proud of myself because this is the first time to have someone at your level and your experience and expertise on this show.
00:15:44And yeah, I wanted to put my skills to see what can I come up with someone like you.
00:15:52So first question is, if you could rewrite your own life story, what pivotal moment would change and why?
00:16:04Wow. Wow. One more time.
00:16:07If you could rewrite your own life story, what pivotal moment would change? Would you change and why?
00:16:17Wow, that's a very good question. Very good question.
00:16:20I'd say for me, a big moment that I would have changed if I could rewrite, if I could go back in time, sort of rewrite.
00:16:28However you receive that question.
00:16:31I would say probably going sober. So I went sober 14 months ago now when I was in L.A.
00:16:39I decided I was going to go sober and it was something I wanted to do for a while, but I never quite just did it.
00:16:45It's just making the decision to do it. And it relates to acting because it was like one of those things I felt was affecting my acting.
00:16:51And I was always a bit of a party boy when I was a bit younger and stuff.
00:16:55But always maybe one of those people that takes it a bit too far.
00:16:58And it definitely was affecting my acting and everything that goes with it.
00:17:03So I thought maybe I would have gone sober sooner. I think like I'm not I'm not I'm not saying I've got major regrets about stuff.
00:17:09But I think if I could go back in time, I'd maybe quit it in the year before.
00:17:12I just see what more could I have done in that year if I wasn't so sociable going out all the time and stuff like that.
00:17:20Yeah, I think there's other things as well I'd probably change.
00:17:23That's the one thing that's popped in my head. I think doing that, going sober.
00:17:26And people would say I'm so young to do it. And like, yeah, I'm quite young to do that.
00:17:30But for me personally, for my own journey and experience, it felt like it was the right thing to do for me.
00:17:36I'm not saying everyone else, you know what I mean? But like for me, it just felt right.
00:17:39So I think that would be that. I think I'd literally cut out even sooner just because of various experiences and stuff that I've had in the past and whatnot with it.
00:17:48Yeah, I'd say that.
00:17:49You feel good about who you are, Lewis, being sober.
00:17:55And before you answer, the reason why I ask is because there's too much of a negative, a negative stigma when someone says I'm sober.
00:18:04And there should not be. Where are you at now? What have you learned?
00:18:09And are people learning from you to understand that sobriety is different for everyone and the meaning will always change?
00:18:18But what does it mean to you that's positive? Impactful and kind?
00:18:27I think for me, it's really so personal, like these things that everyone's so different.
00:18:31And for me, I was just that one person that like I was always looked at as like the bit of the I've never been an alcoholic.
00:18:37I don't know if I'm an alcoholic by definition, but there was jokes in drama school and before drama school that I was the big drinker, let's say, of the group.
00:18:45And it was something I never really addressed. And then when you really go deep into yourself and then you find something bigger than that, like that part for me was everything.
00:18:53When I was younger, I just loved it. And when I got into acting more after drama school, near the end of drama school, I just realised I was like acting is my new purpose.
00:19:01This is something beyond all the partying and the crazy stuff I'd get up to.
00:19:06But this is so much more important, this thing. Does that make sense?
00:19:10And so that for me was like and I feel like you must. It's the anxiety of walking into a room and just wanting to drink.
00:19:17Like for me, that was a bit worrying because as an actor, you should be confident enough just to sort of walk into a room and not look for the bar in the first 10 seconds of you walking into a room.
00:19:26And so that was the thing. And I think just going through stuff, I think when you have an issue in your life, you tend to want to have a drink and that's just a normal, common human decision.
00:19:36I want to have a drink now because obviously there's something going on. And that was me.
00:19:39Like I'd always find something stressful. I'd want to go to the pub. I'd want to do this. I'd want to party and forget about it.
00:19:46I think when you go sober and you just it sounds really weird when you sit through those feelings, you come out a stronger person because you've just your body sat through it.
00:19:53You've not escaped it. You've not escaped the reality. You've not done anything.
00:19:56You've just sat with those feelings. And that's inevitably going to make you a stronger person.
00:20:01I feel because you know how to deal with those feelings now.
00:20:05And even like on smaller things like just like turning up to a rehearsal hungover or turn up to an audition hungover.
00:20:11Like it's just not. And my hangovers were bad. Like I actually admire people.
00:20:15I'm almost envious of people that can drink and a lot of my friends can't.
00:20:19They get on with their life fine. The next morning they're like ready to go.
00:20:22No, no. I think that was never me. I was never.
00:20:25But if I was that person, I might still be drinking because I was always that person that maybe took it a bit too far.
00:20:30And the next day just felt like death. Like you didn't want to go to an audition or a rehearsal or anything.
00:20:36Anything you had planned that next day, but obviously maybe get canceled or delayed or just not get done.
00:20:41And yeah, so that was another big reason for me.
00:20:44It was just to sort of be on the ball more, I guess, be more present and more accountable for everything.
00:20:50So that's been my experience anyway with going sober.
00:20:53I believe they call that an alcoholic.
00:20:56It's someone who can like drink and do all that and still wake up and have a life.
00:21:03But what was it or who was it that said, oh, you just don't enjoy drinking anymore, Lewis.
00:21:11This is a problem or this could lead into a bigger problem.
00:21:18Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I think social media was a big thing because when I was younger, social media wasn't as big and I think I was on it as much.
00:21:26And then when I got more into drama school, I think I realized how important this thing was and it was becoming huge.
00:21:31And now it is obviously like you said, bigger than IMDB, bigger than all these massive platforms for acting especially.
00:21:37And you see, you see people online going sober and you see things.
00:21:40I think it's almost like I didn't know that was a thing that could happen.
00:21:43I just grew up with it in my teenage years. That's just what people do. They go out, they drink if they can.
00:21:48That's just that's how we live. That's what you do when you turn 18. You do this, you do that.
00:21:52And then you sort of get open up to the world a bit more on social media.
00:21:55And there's like people living in alternative, they live in alternative lifestyles.
00:21:58They're not drinking. And to me, that blew my mind and it saddled me for years.
00:22:02And then I think it was just a drama school near the end of it.
00:22:06I really started thinking, right, I need to sell myself as an actor now.
00:22:09I'm starting the accounts online. I was promoting myself, finding myself in this industry.
00:22:15And then that's when I started thinking this might need to go. And it took me months to really look on the head.
00:22:20It's that one big decision we have to say, right, that is it now. That is it.
00:22:23And that's only once you make the decision, it gets a bit easier. It's just knowing when to make that decision.
00:22:27And it was me in Los Angeles. I was just before I went to L.A.
00:22:31I had a few big parties, went to L.A., still recovering from those parties.
00:22:35I've drunk a bit there, not too much. And then by the end of it, I just didn't feel my best.
00:22:40I just didn't feel, you know, my best self, 100 percent.
00:22:43And that was it. I just said, I think I did say to myself, I'll give it a good month or two and see how I feel.
00:22:49And then it gets addictive. It really gets addictive. You get a month gone, two months gone.
00:22:53You've done quite a lot in the past two months. You feel better in yourself.
00:22:56You feel more confident in a room. And then once six months go by, I think that's pretty smooth setting completely.
00:23:03It gets a lot smoother. And then it just becomes like now I don't even think about it.
00:23:07I can walk into a bar and I've got no problem with just getting a lime and soda or a diet coke or something.
00:23:13And just and then that's it. I don't even think about it anymore.
00:23:15But the first couple of months is difficult. You're thinking about it a lot.
00:23:19And it's that people say it's the gift that keeps on giving.
00:23:22And I do think it is that I do think the more you the more you live about it, the better you become.
00:23:26And you can deal with just your own personal problems.
00:23:30Have you. Have you. I want to say loss. What would be the.
00:23:35How do I want to ask this? Have you found the people that were in your life?
00:23:44Did you come to find once you stopped drinking who they really are?
00:23:50And did you fall away from the wayside and you were at peace about that?
00:23:57Yeah, definitely friends that like you realize they were like your drinking friends, you know, and it was like,
00:24:03there's still friends I've got now to this day that's super close to me and I just love them as a person.
00:24:08But like there's some people you think, oh, every time I was meeting him, I was just getting drunk.
00:24:11And then the minute you're not drinking, you might go out with that same person and realize, actually, that's what it was.
00:24:16It was just the alcohol that made this this whole interaction fun.
00:24:21And then once you eliminate that, you know, actually, I'm not really enjoying this anymore.
00:24:26And I think obviously, I mean, I still go out. I go clubbing sometimes if it's like in the right moment from somewhere or still go to pubs and bars.
00:24:34I'm a social person. I like being out and socializing. But, yeah, there's definitely people that drop off.
00:24:38And I think not even like by decision, like I didn't think I never said, right, that person's gone.
00:24:43I think just organically, just these people just just drop off and it's nothing to do with you or them.
00:24:48It's just like us. I think we're going on this path. So I'm going to be naturally going to solve.
00:24:53I think just go separate. And yeah, I don't think I made a decision.
00:24:57Right. That one's gone. That was gone. I think it was just more. Yeah.
00:25:00Organically, you look back and think, I've seen that person in months and I've thought about it.
00:25:06Maybe they're not thinking about me and that's OK because that's just that's life.
00:25:10It was you traveled. You were you were. You were on a road, a plane, a train somehow, and your journey ended.
00:25:19Yeah. What's a fear you've conquered that completely transformed your perspective on acting and life?
00:25:34It's a very good question. Oh, my God. There's two.
00:25:38So my first one is when I was 11 years old is when I actually decided I wanted to be an actor.
00:25:43So my first 10 years of my life, I had awful stage fright.
00:25:47And my mom and dad remind me of this quite a lot. Like I would like the nativity shows, the Christmas shows.
00:25:51You have to do that every year. I hated it. I would cry on stage the whole time.
00:25:55I just couldn't stand being on stage. If I had to be in a play, I'd be the character.
00:25:59I'd be the tree or the rock. And then, you know, I mean, there's no lines to stand there.
00:26:05But I don't know what happened to me. I think when I was 11, I actually I can't even tell you that the moment in my head that it was.
00:26:11But I just one day went for a bigger role.
00:26:14Then we had like an audition for a local little production.
00:26:17I just went for a bigger role. And it's like a Cinderella Rockefeller play.
00:26:20I remember it was like the third or fourth main character. I just went for it.
00:26:23Load of lines, learnt them all and did it. And then I think it was like pushing past that barrier of fear.
00:26:28And once I did it, something clicked to me and it was like a drug. It was like, oh, my God, I've really enjoyed this experience.
00:26:33And that's what that's that's what started me on this journey of acting.
00:26:36It was like sometimes you don't realise how much you love something until you push past that fear.
00:26:40I think love anything really.
00:26:43And then another moment was I don't know when exactly this would have been putting my time in drama school.
00:26:49But I struggled with the pressure of acting sometimes and all these different things and getting too serious about it, I guess.
00:26:56And obviously you need to take it somewhat serious, obviously, like learning lines and being prepared.
00:27:00There's also got to be an element of relaxation in acting.
00:27:03And that's something I didn't really discover until I was like maybe a year or two in drama school.
00:27:08And it was like I call it the fuck it method. I actually bought this book called Fuck It.
00:27:12And it's all about like, you know, not saying fuck it to life, just sitting on the sofa and calling it a day.
00:27:17But like just not caring too much because you just you end up burning out.
00:27:22And it's like I'll do my prep. I've known my lines. I would be there. I've done all these things.
00:27:26I'd be there. I know the character. Once you get in the rehearsal room on the stage or in front of the camera, don't be stressed anymore.
00:27:32Get out of your head and just say fuck it. And then perform better.
00:27:36And you just perform better because you're so relaxed and open to anything.
00:27:40And they were like my two moments, I think. One of them was actually becoming with the side that I want to do this.
00:27:45And then the other one was thinking this is getting too much. How could I deal with this mentally?
00:27:49And that's when the fuck it method came in, came into play.
00:27:53What's a belief you once held about success that turned out to be completely wrong?
00:28:07That's a great question. I think I believe that success is.
00:28:13And it's quite a common thing is I really have discovered this in the last year or so.
00:28:17And I feel like it's that belief that that thing is going to make you happy.
00:28:21And like if you get that thing, you're then going to be happy and then you're going to feel enough and feel whole.
00:28:26And when I first started as an actor, you get all these roles thrown at you. I want that one.
00:28:30I want that one. Some of me would land. I'm so happy I've got it.
00:28:33And then you do the role and then you're back to square one. You're back to feeling like not enough again because you want the next thing.
00:28:38Because then the other roles come into play. That one's forgotten about now.
00:28:41That experience is forgotten about with that thing. You're onto that and it's almost success isn't going to call.
00:28:47Like success is great, but you are just trying to find a feeling.
00:28:51I think when you want when you want to win at something, you're trying to find that feeling of being enough and loving yourself and being accepted.
00:28:57So I think success lies to you in terms of like you think that amount of money is going to make you happy.
00:29:01But no, it's not really. You need to find happiness in yourself first.
00:29:05That's something I've learned. And you just got to be because there's going to be like obstacles on the way.
00:29:10And you are if you if you're putting all of your self-worth on material things or on experiences or titles or whatever it is in your life,
00:29:19whatever you're doing, then you're never you're never going to be truly happy.
00:29:22You're just constantly chasing this thing. So that's one thing I've learned.
00:29:26It's like to find the happiness in yourself first. And it's always inner work.
00:29:30And then that normally makes everything better anyway. And if it comes to you anyway, normally.
00:29:35And those things are obviously great. Chase goals is obviously very important.
00:29:40But don't have your happiness dependent on that goal.
00:29:45It is such an emotional, more mental, if anything, vicious cycle.
00:29:50It's it's just it's chatter. It's it's chaos that doesn't shut up.
00:29:56Yeah. Yeah. It's insatiable. It's insatiable. It's like you're never satisfied.
00:30:01And it can become that. And that's like with anything, not just acting, any.
00:30:07I mean, pursuing any career, I think like money or a title or an award or people to like you or these all these things.
00:30:16It's like you said, it's just chaos. You're constantly chasing. It's like it's like a dag with a carrot.
00:30:20You're never going to find that feeling. You need to work on yourself first and then and then give it to the world.
00:30:28And when you do, if you do find that feeling.
00:30:34Has anybody really put it on record that it was more than what they hope for?
00:30:39Because I don't recall. I can't say I have when I got it.
00:30:43It was like, oh, awesome. Now. Yeah.
00:30:50Yeah. I think as well, it's always like it's like having your first beer or something.
00:30:55It's like your first kiss or something. It's like the first time or the second time.
00:31:00Amazing. Amazing. And what keeps happening? You do become a little bit like you're still very happy and proud of yourself.
00:31:06And it's nice to hear, you know, whatever the good news is, you do get desensitized to it slightly.
00:31:12And is that what you're trying to say? You get desensitized to this feeling.
00:31:15And it sounds like, OK, that's cool. And then. But if you've got that insatiable mindset, you answer the next thing.
00:31:20You think, oh, but that didn't go right. And you're like, oh, but you just won this or you've just done this thing.
00:31:26So I think it is. Yeah. Keep in not having your happiness dependent on those things.
00:31:30It's very important. You said it perfectly desensitized.
00:31:36Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. I think you've got to be careful that.
00:31:43If you could have a conversation with your childhood self, what would you tell him about the journey ahead?
00:31:53Oh, I like how you pull back on that one. I know this is a good question.
00:31:58This is the ones that get you emotional. I could talk to my younger self.
00:32:02What would I say? I would say just care less about what people think. That was the biggest thing.
00:32:08I cared so much about what people thought as a kid. And you do as a kid.
00:32:11It's hard. You're seeking validation from parents, teachers, your friends.
00:32:17That's a massive thing. Status in school and that kind of thing.
00:32:20And I used to put so much of my self-worth on other people's opinions.
00:32:25And if you hear a bad comment towards you in school or anywhere, it would destroy your day and destroy your week or your month or sit with you for the rest of your life.
00:32:32Do you know these little things? And I think it's that I think it's so hard to tell a kid not to care what people think.
00:32:38It's something I think an adult realizes. But as a kid, you can't get your head around not giving a shit what anyone else thinks.
00:32:45But I try to tell myself, shake it into my younger self a little bit just to be like, just care a bit less.
00:32:50Just do you. Focus on you a bit more. Don't put everything on other people's approval.
00:32:55Or you did this right. Because school is where you're getting graded.
00:32:59So all your subjects are getting graded. There's girls that you might like.
00:33:02They're like the other guy or whatever. They might be friends, friendship groups.
00:33:06You can't be a part because they're the popular group and they're this and they're whatever.
00:33:10And then you make sure you get an empty, I guess, in the end.
00:33:13So, yeah, I like to have acting when I push past that fear at 11 years old.
00:33:18Well, that was at the start of my life, really. It's like my career anyway, I guess, in a way, my life journey.
00:33:24And that was just all to do with pushing past fear. And that's what I tell myself.
00:33:28I think as quick as you can, stop caring what people think.
00:33:33Perfect answer. Thank you.
00:33:39What's the most unexpected way acting has shaped your personal relationships?
00:33:47Oh, wow. Oh, it's my personal relationships.
00:33:55That's a very good question. I think personally, I think it's like the balance, the work life balance.
00:34:03I think that's something that people struggle with sometimes when you can get obsessed with a career path, whatever it is.
00:34:09And like we said earlier, when you lose some of these buddies, but that was more due to like partying and stuff.
00:34:14But this sometimes you forget that you need to have that balance, otherwise you will lose connection with people.
00:34:20And that's something I try and make sure I try not do now is lose connection with friends and family and other people.
00:34:26It's like I'm still very close to my close family and I've still got a couple of friends I talk to every day.
00:34:31And I love those guys. But there's other people that are not as close to me.
00:34:34And I feel like sometimes you need you can't just put your whole life, I guess, on the pursuit of your goals.
00:34:41You know, that's very important. And I'm very passionate about my acting and stuff like that.
00:34:45But I think, yeah, you need to that balance needs to be a bit more in play.
00:34:49But you don't if you take a day off just to see someone you haven't seen in a while or have a good conversation, you're not going to fall behind.
00:34:56Like you've got loads of time. You're not going to. You can take a day off.
00:34:59You can take or take a couple day or take a week off. You are allowed to do that.
00:35:03Go and see some friends you haven't seen in like a year or some family you haven't seen or ask them, how are you?
00:35:09Like, how are you? I haven't really asked you that in a while. So I think that's important.
00:35:13I think that finding that balance, I think a little bit.
00:35:17And some people say, oh, you should have a work life balance, which needs to be all in.
00:35:20But I think you'll burn out if you're all in, you'll burn out and you'll look back and think there's no one around me anymore.
00:35:26It can be pretty lonely, I think, if you just 100 percent all in on your goals all the time.
00:35:32So I think, yeah, that's that's my thing. I'm trying to work on that to this day.
00:35:36Still trying to try to keep that balance.
00:35:38And when you come back, doesn't it feel even better than the last time you stepped back into it?
00:35:44Yeah, definitely. There's friends from drama school that I've seen.
00:35:47One of my best friends that we didn't see each other for a while, quite a few months.
00:35:50And me and him hooked up a few months ago.
00:35:52And ever since then, we've stayed in touch. We talk all the time now.
00:35:55And it's so nice to have a reset. It really feels like a reset.
00:35:58And I just have it's nice to have a day. There's a lot on your mind.
00:36:01It's nice to have a day where you just sit and have a coffee and just laugh with someone and just completely forget about the world for a bit.
00:36:07And yeah, like you said, it's really just like a nice, nice reset, I think.
00:36:15If you had to express your career, where you felt completely lost, and how did you find your way back?
00:36:27Let me rephrase. I'm going to rephrase because I think I got my questions.
00:36:31If you had to express your entire philosophy on life in one sentence, what would it be?
00:36:36Wow. In one sentence?
00:36:42If you had to express your entire philosophy on life in one sentence, what would it be?
00:36:50If you got to do two sentences, do two. It doesn't have to be, you know, this isn't Jeopardy.
00:36:55That's a very good question. In one sentence or two sentences?
00:37:03You can do one. Try to do one.
00:37:07Okay. Okay. I read all these books. I'm always reading different philosophical books.
00:37:16I always like to see different opinions on life. But for my own, it's hard to just nail down your own one.
00:37:24Remember, you're an actor. This was improv. What would it be in one sentence?
00:37:33I would say, remember to give lots of fucks, but also give no fucks at the same time.
00:37:39And I saw a quote about this about an artist. It makes no sense, but that is life.
00:37:46And it is like to give lots of fucks, but give no fucks at the same time.
00:37:49That's my philosophy on life. Because I feel like you need to do the work.
00:37:54Because otherwise, you know, you're just going to become like, when I say work, I don't just mean work.
00:37:58I mean work on your relationships, your body, your mindset, your health, everything.
00:38:02But at the same time, if you completely just become this robot of a human that's trying to do everything so perfectly,
00:38:08you'll just forget to enjoy life and forget to care a bit less.
00:38:12So I think that's my philosophy on life, is remember to give lots of fucks, but give no fucks at the same time.
00:38:17Which, yeah, I know it sums up how crazy life is and how life doesn't make sense anyway.
00:38:22So there we go. Yeah.
00:38:25I like how you're celebrating inside of yourself that you got the one sentence.
00:38:29I know. I don't know about that. I'm not going to tell you. Don't make fun of me.
00:38:41We only got a couple more questions here.
00:38:44What's a moment in your career where you felt completely lost and how did you find your way back?
00:38:52Oh, that's a very, very good question.
00:38:57In my career, I feel like the two years of my career so far have been very like, I've not really had a moment where I felt lost.
00:39:04I don't think in my career as such. I think it's been very, I'm very grateful for the opportunities I've had.
00:39:08And I feel like there's been a couple of moments where obviously I've hit an obstacle, something's gone wrong.
00:39:14And they felt a bit like, oh, we need to get back on track.
00:39:17But I'd say, I'd say maybe a drama school at the moment where like you just get super stressed out.
00:39:24And and that was like going back to what I keep saying about the whole fucking thing.
00:39:28That was another big moment for me was in drama school, I think maybe two or three years in.
00:39:32Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Two or three years in.
00:39:35And I just found I just couldn't deal with this amount of work.
00:39:39Because in drama school, you have quite a lot of workload still. You've got to learn lines for a show or this.
00:39:43And then you've got to do assignments and you've got to work on a new fighting scene.
00:39:47And I think that was something that like they treat you like a real actor.
00:39:51They're trying to treat you like someone who has a lot to do in their career.
00:39:55And I think that was something was dealing with the stress of it.
00:39:58And I remember like really not dealing with the stress well and really not having these feelings before.
00:40:03I didn't know what these feelings were. I've never been this stressed in my life.
00:40:06So it's like a foreign feeling. And I didn't know how to deal with it.
00:40:10I just didn't know how to deal with this thing mentally and physically.
00:40:13Everything about my sleep was getting affected. I think that was it.
00:40:16I think that was like the. I guess it wasn't really an inward thinker before.
00:40:21That wasn't really like something like now. I love reading like philosophy.
00:40:24I love reading different things. Well, I'm a big quote guy. I love a good quote.
00:40:28And all these things. And I wasn't like that as much until those moments in drama school, those weeks of being stressed.
00:40:35And I thought, right, you've got to deal with this in a healthy way.
00:40:38And then I got introduced to like meditation, which changed my life.
00:40:41So I love meditating, journaling, all these things, so many different things.
00:40:46I'll try just to just do supplements. I've never was like to take quite a few supplements and stuff to help with everything.
00:40:53And yeah, I think that was a big moment. I think that wasn't even I haven't even started my career yet.
00:40:58I'm glad it happened before I did, because I thought now I've had a couple of times in my career where I'm like,
00:41:04you know, twirling a lot of plates at the same time or juggling into juggling.
00:41:07Now that's going on at the same time. And if I hadn't done the work on myself during drama school,
00:41:12I probably would have collapsed in my career. I'm glad I did it during drama school.
00:41:16Now I feel somewhat prepared. There's still some things like stuff that throws me off.
00:41:20And that's inevitable. That's obviously everyone. But I'm glad it happened earlier rather than later.
00:41:25So, yeah, that would be my answer to that.
00:41:31What's a role? Let me start again. I think I got a little bit of back feed or there was.
00:41:38Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready.
00:41:41What's a role you dream of playing that would push you beyond your current limits?
00:41:48What's a role you dream of playing that would push you beyond your current limits?
00:41:55Wow.
00:41:59See, I would have said like the joke I said earlier, like that's my dream role.
00:42:03But I don't think that would push me beyond my limits because those characters feel somewhat like familiar to me now.
00:42:09Because I've played a lot of psychopaths in my career. I seem to get a lot of castings for psychos.
00:42:13And who knows why? But that's that's I love it.
00:42:17That they're fun. But that to me feels fun and familiar. So a role that would push me beyond my limits.
00:42:23I think for me, I want a role with so much stillness.
00:42:26I'm not a very still guy. I'm quite an energetic person.
00:42:28So when I get a role that's sent to me like Tigger, like Mad Hatter, like loads of other kids I've played and stuff like that or comedy that I've done.
00:42:36I'm always a high energetic character.
00:42:37There's a lot of like you can put that nervous energy or whatever energy into that performance and it can come out in your body or in your voice or whatever.
00:42:45I think if I can have a character, I'm not too sure what character.
00:42:48I mean, so many different examples, but a character that stillness is very sort of centred in their energy would be would be interesting.
00:42:58Like maybe I don't know, like a businessman or a politician or something like maybe a biopic.
00:43:03It's something where there's like a lot of scenes where it's just like this stillness.
00:43:07And that's something I haven't really perfected yet or even tried to really because I've just naturally I put a lot of me into some of these roles as you do.
00:43:16And, yeah, because I have a character which is very focused on just this and not everything else.
00:43:22If that makes sense, it does.
00:43:25Yeah.
00:43:26There's so many things I can think of.
00:43:28Yeah.
00:43:29Characters very still, very still character would be would be interesting.
00:43:32Very subtle character.
00:43:33OK.
00:43:35If you could leave behind one message that would outlive you, what would it be?
00:43:42One message, I'd say just it goes back to my stuff I said about not caring too much and stuff like that.
00:43:51I think it's that like at the end of it, you've got to be on your deathbed and look back and sort of just say that you enjoyed it.
00:43:58Like some people, it's great to have the idea of my title live on with my movies live on.
00:44:04That's very important. That's nice.
00:44:06But at the same time, make sure you enjoy this little window of life.
00:44:08It's like it's a miracle that we're even alive.
00:44:10It's like one in 400 trillion chances that we're alive.
00:44:13Each human.
00:44:15So I'd say no matter what your goal is, whether you are also an actor or entrepreneur, whatever you're doing, whatever your dreams are.
00:44:21Obviously, it's important to have goals and leave behind something to deserve and make it a better place through art, through anything, you know, anything that you're doing.
00:44:31But just to enjoy it.
00:44:32Like don't get too caught up on things because it does go quick, I guess.
00:44:37Like even though I'm overseas, I'm still young.
00:44:39Even I feel like like the fact that all my studies gone now and I'm now a couple of years into my career.
00:44:44That to me feels quick.
00:44:46And I think I just enjoy a little short window of life and just and make sure that when you're in your bed, there's no regrets.
00:44:53You know what I mean?
00:44:55I look back and just don't think I should have done that.
00:44:57I know I'm very young to say that, but like I do this exercise sometimes with meditation.
00:45:03I actually do try to picture like the end of your life.
00:45:05What's something I would beat myself up for now if I didn't do it.
00:45:08And I think if someone can do that as much as they can and try, because it's very important to just remind yourself that you're turning down an opportunity right now.
00:45:17Or if there's something you know you're shying away from, you know, in 10, 20, 30 years or at the end of your life, regret it.
00:45:23Don't let that happen.
00:45:25Attack it, whatever it is.
00:45:27That's my very long message that I would say I'd leave behind.
00:45:31Remember to enjoy it all.
00:45:33And ask yourself, because I give this as a reminder to me as well.
00:45:40Am I growing in the current position that I am in or not?
00:45:48And however my answer may be, if I were to take this opportunity, if I were to step in this role, if I were to meet this person, will it advance me from where I currently am?
00:46:05And that's, if where you are now, there is, there's no growth or there is growth, but it's not at the level or goal or expectation to where if you're looking to get somewhere in five years is where you're currently at.
00:46:22Is it going to take the next four and three quarters to get your five year goal?
00:46:29Or can you make a decision or is there an opportunity or just create an opportunity that's going to get you six months, a year, a year and a half ahead of that five year goal?
00:46:42Which means then you got four plus years of your life back from your own expectation.
00:46:49You see where I'm going with this?
00:46:51That's a good way of thinking about stuff.
00:46:52Yeah, I think sometimes people can jump into stuff too quick or turn down something and not realise where that could lead.
00:46:59And whether it is within five years or in six months.
00:47:02And I've like, there's stuff I've not gone for.
00:47:05And it's even stuff I've turned down.
00:47:07It's like to this day, I should have done that.
00:47:09And you might turn it down out of like just the fear of the unknown or out of, I don't know, just not looking into it enough or just being, you know, whatever about it.
00:47:19But like there's times where I've beat myself up over like not taking an opportunity, which would have led to growth.
00:47:24And that's the annoying part.
00:47:27But then at least the more growth, because you've had that experience now, so you know what to do next time.
00:47:32And yeah, I think it's nice to have that.
00:47:33So just remind yourself what you did.
00:47:35Don't just jump in and start having to think about whatever you're doing.
00:47:38Because you're going to lose either way.
00:47:40If you stay where you are and there's no growth, there's no way you can accumulate knowledge, connection.
00:47:49Experience.
00:47:51When you do take that, it's like, what?
00:47:56It's like, it's like you with Tigger, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey 2.
00:48:01They all like, what's going on here?
00:48:04God, Louis Santa's coming out.
00:48:06What's he going to do now?
00:48:07And that's what I like about this role for you is you've paved your own road.
00:48:15You don't have a lane.
00:48:16You have your, you have a highway.
00:48:18You have your own interstate.
00:48:20Because as I said to you personally or privately, they're going to probably create so many, is it like rom-com type of events?
00:48:31You're for the rest of your life, as long as people love the Winnie the Pooh series, you're going to be at events forever.
00:48:38You're going to be meeting people for however long you choose to, if you go to these events.
00:48:43And can you imagine with the, wow, you're what?
00:48:4624?
00:48:47How old are you?
00:48:4821?
00:48:4924.
00:48:50Yes, 24.
00:48:51All right.
00:48:52Imagine a 25-year anniversary on this.
00:48:54You're still going to be here.
00:48:57You're still going to be marketing.
00:48:59A year anniversary.
00:49:00We had the year one earlier this year.
00:49:01We had the year already?
00:49:02Oh, man.
00:49:03Yes.
00:49:04We had a little happy birthday thing in March.
00:49:06I think it was March a couple months ago now.
00:49:08Oh, they weren't waiting for anything, were they?
00:49:11No.
00:49:12So we had fans put a little happy birthday to Winnie the Pooh, and we had a little bit more of Instagram and stuff.
00:49:17Yeah, I never thought of it that way.
00:49:19I never thought like, yeah, 10 years time, there'll be a 10-year anniversary, 20 years time.
00:49:23And obviously we've got the Pooh-diverse coming out as well, which is going to be like the big epic Avengers-style showdown.
00:49:31And then obviously Winnie 3 and stuff.
00:49:33But yeah, I think Winnie 2 being the first introduction to Tigger and Al as well, I think that's going to be the one that holds us back.
00:49:39That's going to be the one that holds a special place in my heart because it's the first time you see him.
00:49:44And then obviously then so on and so forth for the next film.
00:49:47But yeah, I think it's very cool to have something like that.
00:49:50And I love meeting fans.
00:49:52It's something that was surreal for me the first time it happened.
00:49:54When I went to LA to promote the film, that's the first time I met fans in person.
00:49:59And they loved the film, and they just couldn't say enough good things about it.
00:50:03And the first one as well and stuff.
00:50:05And yeah, and to this day, it's just still surreal.
00:50:07The last convention I had was, I had one in, well, which went to a film festival in Germany.
00:50:11And there were some Tigger fans there with DVDs and stuff.
00:50:14And it's just the best experience in the world.
00:50:16Like just to have fans be like, just the recognition for your work and that they love what you're doing.
00:50:21And I'm a horror fan as well.
00:50:23So I completely get it.
00:50:24I know how it feels to enjoy a horror film and love a character.
00:50:28So yeah, it's just, it's another gift that keeps on giving these films.
00:50:32What's incredible is, I'm not asking for you to speak on this,
00:50:36but there's no way I can see that they would ever remove or kill the role of Tigger.
00:50:42It's just unrealistic.
00:50:43And if they did, it would be the most stupidest move.
00:50:45It would be as ridiculous of trying to say that Michael Myers no longer exists.
00:50:51You are truly the Robert Englund version for Tigger.
00:50:58The way Robert Englund will be, he's just timeless.
00:51:04He's infinite.
00:51:06He will always own the role of Freddy Krueger, the same way that you will always own the role of Tigger.
00:51:13So remember this, you are the Robert Englund version for Tigger.
00:51:19Like the power, the situation, the opportunity that you're in is huge.
00:51:25No different than the guy who played in Terrifier.
00:51:29He's masked.
00:51:30You don't get to see his face, know who he truly is until you Google him or look more into it.
00:51:37This is perfect for you.
00:51:39I'm excited for you, but please to every person out there, don't typecast you.
00:51:45Don't just keep you in these films because you're so much more.
00:51:48Like you can do a Fifty Shades of Grey role.
00:51:51I mean, come on.
00:51:53I mean, you're looking Fifty Shades of Grey right now.
00:51:56Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
00:51:58I've got an appointment in a minute.
00:52:00I'm calling you Christian right now.
00:52:02I'm going to the dungeon house in a minute.
00:52:08That's a nice role of stillness, a Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:52:12Yeah.
00:52:13Yeah.
00:52:14See, that kind of role.
00:52:16Somebody who's so in control of a situation.
00:52:18And it doesn't necessarily mean control, but you get some psychos that are just completely…
00:52:23Like No Country for Old Men.
00:52:25I was thinking that in that film.
00:52:27Is it Javier Bardem?
00:52:29And he's so still as a psycho.
00:52:32He just barely moves, emotionless, and deadpan, but he just works.
00:52:36And yeah, Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:52:38In fact, he's so arrogant and so in control of this relationship.
00:52:42That's why he's floating.
00:52:44Not to interject, but there's a vulnerability.
00:52:46That's right there.
00:52:49Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:52:51Right there.
00:52:52Christian Grey.
00:52:53That's the role of your stillness.
00:52:55It just came to me.
00:52:57That's it.
00:52:58I mean, I'd love a role like that to just explore just more of this and less of being this big character.
00:53:04As much as I love the big characters, it's just always good to challenge yourself.
00:53:07And I just know that would be a challenge for me because I'm just naturally a very fast-paced, energetic person.
00:53:14To control that and keep that under control.
00:53:16I'd probably have to have less coffee on that set.
00:53:19But just to control that would be a nice experience for me.
00:53:23It pushed me as a performer.
00:53:25So yeah, I'd be grateful for an opportunity like that.
00:53:28So we have now, directors, producers, all your friends.
00:53:31I want to see on your socials.
00:53:37I want to see something created for Joker.
00:53:40A Christian Grey, Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:53:43And, no bullshit, a James Bond.
00:53:48Bond.
00:53:49Okay.
00:53:50Oh, okay.
00:53:51That's a very big compliment.
00:53:53I appreciate that.
00:53:54Okay.
00:53:55Yeah, James Bond.
00:53:56Yeah, you never know.
00:53:57Maybe in a few years to come.
00:53:58You never know.
00:53:59I can put the posh voice on a little bit more.
00:54:02Definitely do that.
00:54:03So yeah, that's it.
00:54:05That's a big compliment, that.
00:54:06And if it's not Bond, I'd love a Bond villain.
00:54:09I think that'd be interesting.
00:54:11Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:54:12That would be cliche.
00:54:13It would be too easy.
00:54:16Oh, okay.
00:54:17The stillness is in the opposite of what you're known for.
00:54:22There's three things in media we look for.
00:54:26TMZ content.
00:54:27I don't, but most people are into the sensationalism of TMZ content.
00:54:33A villain, which you can too easily do.
00:54:36Or a comeback hero story.
00:54:39So that stillness is that hero that's in you, Lewis.
00:54:43Tell me right now.
00:54:45It wouldn't even be the comeback.
00:54:47It would be the start of something.
00:54:49It'd be like this.
00:54:50Getting seen in all these roles that are somewhat similar and then also bringing this to the world.
00:54:56And yeah, that would be very exciting.
00:55:00So, yeah, I'll keep open to any opportunity.
00:55:03Whether that is a Fifty Shades of Grey style film, James Bond.
00:55:06James Bond.
00:55:07James Bond.
00:55:08Anything like that.
00:55:09That's, well, yeah, just that stillness.
00:55:11The scented energy.
00:55:12That's what I want to explore.
00:55:13Really want to explore that.
00:55:15So, yeah, it's going to happen.
00:55:16It's going to happen.
00:55:20Any upcoming projects at all?
00:55:25I mean, the ones I can talk about is, it's obviously annoying because you can't say too much.
00:55:29But, yeah, Poonaverse is the big thing I can talk about.
00:55:32So that's coming in at week three.
00:55:34A couple more projects for those guys I can't talk about.
00:55:37There's a couple more bits that are very exciting.
00:55:39And then, it's really not, I can't say, but there's a series I did wrapped on the end of last year.
00:55:45And that's coming out, I think, end of this year or start of next.
00:55:49But I can't, once again, I can't say what it is.
00:55:51But I'll be whacking it on my Instagram as soon as I can.
00:55:54I've seen some of the stills and stuff.
00:55:56It's really cool.
00:55:57So I'll be announcing that to people as soon as I can.
00:56:00But at the moment, I can't.
00:56:01That was a really exciting experience.
00:56:03And, yes, and then obviously, like, we're producing.
00:56:06So I'm getting into that world a little bit more.
00:56:09We've got Dark Secrets Chapter 3 coming out.
00:56:12We start filming that next year.
00:56:13So that's going to be very exciting.
00:56:15That's going to be crazy, that one.
00:56:16Really crazy.
00:56:17And, yeah, a couple of little bits coming up in June.
00:56:19Little, like, filming projects, little fun little things.
00:56:22But the big stuff, yeah, like the series and that, I just can't.
00:56:25It's really annoying because you just can't say anything about it at all.
00:56:28I'll probably get in trouble.
00:56:29But, yeah, it's all exciting stuff.
00:56:32And as soon as I can tell you, obviously, you know,
00:56:34I'll message you, Steven, and I'll let you know.
00:56:36I'll let you know what I'm up to.
00:56:38Yeah, yeah.
00:56:39And I would love to see you on Sex Education.
00:56:41I think it's on the Netflix.
00:56:43Oh, OK.
00:56:44You'll be perfect for that.
00:56:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:46Because you can be a senior.
00:56:47Yeah, definitely, yeah.
00:56:48Yeah.
00:56:49You can be a senior in high school.
00:56:52Yeah.
00:56:54I've done a couple younger roles.
00:56:57I played, like, a chav in a film about a year and a half ago.
00:57:02And that was fun, like, a young chav.
00:57:05So I do get the young roles coming sometimes.
00:57:08I think when I shave, when that's all gone,
00:57:10maybe a little bit, but when that's all gone,
00:57:11and the hair's a little bit more trimmed,
00:57:13I do pull off, yeah, a student.
00:57:16Yeah, Connor Swindells, I believe, is older than you.
00:57:18And he pulled it off.
00:57:20Yes.
00:57:21Yeah, I think about 28, I think he is, yeah.
00:57:23Yeah.
00:57:24There we go.
00:57:25I've got the young, you've got the sort of the young face for it.
00:57:27I think I've got the same younger face.
00:57:29I can do a bit older, but I also can do,
00:57:30can lean into the younger side of stuff.
00:57:34Anything else?
00:57:35Anything else you want to drop before we go?
00:57:38I think it's that.
00:57:39I think it's just working, just chipping away at stuff.
00:57:42I think, yeah, it's just keep your eyes on the stuff that I can't.
00:57:45When I can announce it, obviously I will.
00:57:47And all the tickets, obviously tickets coming back,
00:57:49which is very exciting.
00:57:50And then, yeah, leaning into producing a bit more,
00:57:53which is very exciting.
00:57:54But once again, once I have more information,
00:57:56I'll blast it on Instagram and X and stuff like that.
00:58:00So, yes, keep your eyes peeled.
00:58:01I'd say that's what I leave people with.
00:58:03You should be ready by next year to be here in the States.
00:58:11Yeah, I love that.
00:58:12Early next year.
00:58:14Either way, this isn't your breakout year.
00:58:18This is your year of cementing your status, who you are.
00:58:24And I truly feel in my heart, because we are only, what,
00:58:27six months away to 2026?
00:58:30Yep.
00:58:31You're going to blow up.
00:58:32If not already here, I would love to know what your fans are,
00:58:36who your fans are here, because I guarantee you've got them.
00:58:39You come here, yeah, you're going to be the Christian Grey.
00:58:44Version in the States.
00:58:46When you get to it.
00:58:47Yeah.
00:58:48It's really interesting.
00:58:49Yeah.
00:58:50Because obviously, like we need to is quite big in the UK.
00:58:52It's been like a little premier there and it was quite big.
00:58:54And in terms of the reaction from the fans and stuff,
00:58:56then when you get out to, but that's a Los Angeles promoter.
00:59:00Oh my God.
00:59:01The fans are going crazy.
00:59:02Like we had like three nights in a row,
00:59:04but playing the cinema on Universal Studios and it packed out every
00:59:07night and just the reaction and screaming in the theater and the
00:59:10people staying behind after that conversation.
00:59:12Like it was another level to what we had in the UK and that's when it
00:59:16hit me.
00:59:17And then a lot of my fans I've spoken to on Instagram and most of my
00:59:20interviews and stuff are from the States.
00:59:22So I was like, wow, these films are massive in the States.
00:59:24And even to this day,
00:59:26like I'm going back to the States in October for a convention to meet
00:59:29them for more Tigger fans and meeting them and stuff.
00:59:33And yeah.
00:59:34And I love it.
00:59:35I absolutely love the States.
00:59:36And I've been there before we promoted this film,
00:59:38but I think when I went to Los Angeles,
00:59:40I just fell in love with it even more.
00:59:41And we had this conversation when we spoke the other day and I'd love to get
00:59:45out there.
00:59:46And even for part of my journey,
00:59:48live out there and just see what opportunities arise from,
00:59:51from living there.
00:59:52So yeah,
00:59:53I'm definitely up for that for,
00:59:55for getting out there.
00:59:56You're ready.
00:59:57You're ready.
00:59:58Yeah.
00:59:59I'll go tomorrow.
01:00:00If someone said,
01:00:01you've got this,
01:00:02you would come out and go,
01:00:03yeah,
01:00:04I'll pack my bag.
01:00:05I'll be there.
01:00:06You're going to be.
01:00:07Definitely ready.
01:00:08Yeah.
01:00:09I didn't realize how huge the Winnie the Pooh series is here.
01:00:13I didn't even know about terrifier until I spoke to the director and did
01:00:18more research.
01:00:19I was like,
01:00:20wow.
01:00:21Cause I'm used to Texas chainsaw massacre Friday,
01:00:23the 13th nightmare.
01:00:24Now I'm straight.
01:00:25The,
01:00:26the seventies eighties version,
01:00:27but this new style of horror.
01:00:29Oh yeah.
01:00:30Oh yeah.
01:00:31Your audience is huge.
01:00:32Huge.
01:00:33Well,
01:00:34as well that they,
01:00:35they,
01:00:36they,
01:00:37they pay homage to,
01:00:38to all the old classics.
01:00:39So like TIG,
01:00:40I based it off Freddy Krueger's.
01:00:41The voice is very progressive.
01:00:42And,
01:00:43and I've had a few people apparently told Robert England about this.
01:00:46I've had a few people message me now.
01:00:47So,
01:00:48so Robert England told him he based a character off it.
01:00:50Apparently he loved it.
01:00:51I want to tell him in person,
01:00:52but if I see him,
01:00:53but I based the movement of Pennywise as well as stuff like that.
01:00:56And then owl is based off pinhead and then piglet is very leather face.
01:01:01Texas chainsaw massacre esque.
01:01:02And then you've got poo,
01:01:03which is like the Michael,
01:01:04my Jason movies.
01:01:05So I think the fans that even used to love the classics can now enjoy this
01:01:09film because it's like,
01:01:10it's very similar,
01:01:11like their characters are very similar to the art ones that they love.
01:01:14So I think,
01:01:15yeah,
01:01:16we're getting all different audiences,
01:01:17which is really interesting.
01:01:18Yeah.
01:01:19I didn't realize until I had that week in LA that really opened up my eyes
01:01:22to how big this franchise is.
01:01:23I knew it was,
01:01:24it was big,
01:01:25but when I went out to LA,
01:01:26I was like,
01:01:27Oh my God,
01:01:28people love this and they love what we're doing and they can't wait for the
01:01:30next installment.
01:01:31Remember these words.
01:01:32It's going to get even bigger.
01:01:33It's going to get so out of control.
01:01:35You're going to have to have security and abundant.
01:01:40Seriously.
01:01:41It's,
01:01:42it's incredible how horror,
01:01:44especially here in this state,
01:01:47it's always been relevant,
01:01:48but there is a comeback.
01:01:49Now there's a comeback that feels eighties,
01:01:53nineties different.
01:01:55Your generation is taking creativity,
01:01:59the style,
01:02:00the reasoning to understand,
01:02:02to be creative,
01:02:03to a whole other level and art form.
01:02:06There's an art form now to the way that you guys do your projects,
01:02:10to the way you do your social media,
01:02:12to wait,
01:02:13to the way of how you connect with people.
01:02:16It's incredible how here in a state,
01:02:19your generation is people are confused by your generation.
01:02:24It's not confusing when a person or a group of people have decided that
01:02:32they want a way of life that works for them,
01:02:37not genetics,
01:02:38not,
01:02:39not millennials,
01:02:40not whoever,
01:02:42not Ronald McDonald fans that works for you.
01:02:46And I respect that.
01:02:50It's great because,
01:02:51I mean,
01:02:52I've always been a horror fan,
01:02:53but since being in winning two and doing other horror films,
01:02:56since it's just great.
01:02:57It's a lovely community.
01:02:58And I've chatted to like,
01:02:59the likes of like,
01:03:00I've chatted to him in Canada last year.
01:03:02And obviously he's an absolute master in the horror world.
01:03:05And he said that like,
01:03:06he's dabbled obviously in other genres as well,
01:03:08like bastards and stuff like that.
01:03:10He was saying to me,
01:03:11and he was saying to a few of us at the time,
01:03:13he was saying like,
01:03:14you'll never find fans so loyal in any other genre.
01:03:17The fans are so loyal.
01:03:18They can't wait to see what you're doing next.
01:03:20And it's so true.
01:03:21And he,
01:03:22he's at his level.
01:03:23He's even saying that like,
01:03:24he just,
01:03:25he says,
01:03:26no matter what I do,
01:03:27and he directs a lot of horror now.
01:03:28I think it's a new product too.
01:03:30But yeah,
01:03:31it's so,
01:03:32it's so true because like,
01:03:33whenever you do anything else,
01:03:34like any other little bits and bobs I've done,
01:03:36or whatever,
01:03:37the comedy thing,
01:03:38comedy series last year,
01:03:39I had fans that loved Tigger messaging me about that.
01:03:41And I'm going to give this a watch.
01:03:42I'm like,
01:03:43but it's not horror,
01:03:44but they're like,
01:03:45they just don't care.
01:03:46They're just so,
01:03:47because of what you've done with that character.
01:03:48And they're just so invested in you now as a performer.
01:03:49And it's lovely.
01:03:50It's so nice to get these messages
01:03:51and have these people interested in everything in your career now,
01:03:54not just,
01:03:55not just horror stuff.
01:03:56So yeah,
01:03:57it's really,
01:03:58it's really,
01:03:59it's really opened me up the last couple of years too.
01:04:01I've made a lot of friends on the way.
01:04:02A lot of people are still staying in touch with that.
01:04:04I've met at these conventions and yeah,
01:04:06I love just getting messaging people and seeing,
01:04:08you know,
01:04:09if they liked this,
01:04:10if they like that,
01:04:11it's just,
01:04:12it's great.
01:04:13And yeah,
01:04:14the super,
01:04:15super loyal fans and just really positive.
01:04:16You're ready.
01:04:17I'm ready.
01:04:18Where to go to Instagram,
01:04:20right?
01:04:21Is it Louis Santa?
01:04:22We're connected.
01:04:23Actor.
01:04:24So at Louis Santa,
01:04:25I think there's another account called Louis Santa.
01:04:26So it's at Louis Santa,
01:04:27the actor.
01:04:28Uh,
01:04:29that's my Instagram is my biggest.
01:04:30If you want to reach me or see what I'm up to,
01:04:31I normally post first on there.
01:04:32And I'm always quite active on messages and stuff.
01:04:33I'm also on X,
01:04:34but I don't really use X.
01:04:35I'm also on Tik TOK,
01:04:36but like,
01:04:37they're not,
01:04:38you can follow me in there if you want.
01:04:39I'm not very active on those platforms.
01:04:40I need to get more active on them.
01:04:41But if you want to get ahold of me and see what I'm doing,
01:04:42I'm on Instagram.
01:04:43I'm on TikTok.
01:04:44I'm on Instagram.
01:04:45I'm on Instagram.
01:04:46I'm on Instagram.
01:04:48Yeah.
01:04:49That's it.
01:04:50Yeah.
01:04:51All right.
01:04:52Anything else?
01:04:53Are we done?
01:04:54We fulfilled.
01:04:55I'm very fulfilled.
01:04:56I've loved this conversation.
01:04:57Yes.
01:04:58It'd be a deep thing.
01:04:59Conversation.
01:05:00I mean,
01:05:01I've realized that about myself.
01:05:02I didn't even know.
01:05:03So I absolutely love this.
01:05:04Yeah.
01:05:05Thank you so much.
01:05:06And you now have found out.
01:05:07Louis.
01:05:28Lewis.
01:05:29You are able to give a one sentence answer.
01:05:30That's it.
01:05:31That's crazy.
01:05:32I've done that.
01:05:33I spoke to my younger self.
01:05:34I've.
01:05:35Yeah.
01:05:36Decided.
01:05:37Welding told the world.
01:05:38Right after I die,
01:05:39all these things and these are thought provoking things you wouldn't think about this on your own.
01:05:43So,
01:05:44yeah.
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