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00:00I think all the arts in America are like science and education are really obviously under in a very precarious situation right now so yeah I mean when we were here three years ago I said you know America's in such a dark place so you know if we come back
00:30let's hope I mean I teach at Bard College for you know almost 20 years and been teaching for 30 years and it and it's all really scary it's surprising how far it's gone how fast I mean more scary to me was watching a tough the college I went to watching a young woman walk out of class and get shoved into a van and taken out of the country
00:58that to me is scarier it's ridiculous and we have a leader who's having temper tantrums every day but it affects you know millions and millions of people's lives
01:10I I it's hard for me to remain hopeful but we still have you know a judicial system to some degree in our country and I think it's going to be hard for him to hold that crazy order in place
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