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00:00:00PN returns to circuit de Spa-Francorchamps for the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:00:04Last June this race was postponed because new pavement on the track had failed to cure
00:00:09and the course was ruled unsafe for high speeds.
00:00:12Since then track conditions have improved greatly and that combined with excellent weather
00:00:17conditions during qualifying has resulted in 20 drivers breaking the previous one-lap record.
00:00:23This challenging four-mile circuit located in the Eiffel Mountains is the setting for
00:00:27the once postponed Belgian Grand Prix on ESPN.
00:00:35We welcome you to Spa-Francorchamps in eastern Belgium for the 1985 Belgian Grand Prix.
00:00:41I'm Bob Jenkins along with John Bisignano.
00:00:43We were here earlier this year when the race was postponed because of poor track conditions.
00:00:48Those conditions have improved greatly.
00:00:50As a matter of fact, John, it's a fast racetrack.
00:00:52The drivers have been going very quickly.
00:00:54In fact, 20 drivers are faster than pole position last time here and that shows that
00:00:59the cars have been set up for the wide sweeping turns and even hard braking down into the hairpin.
00:01:04The drivers like this track but it's a fuel critical circuit and as we've seen in several
00:01:09races this year coming to the finish line is going to be a difficult thing for some
00:01:14of these drivers to calculate how much boost to use and how fast they can go.
00:01:18Niki Lauda has been plagued by mechanical problems all year but a problem of another
00:01:22kind this weekend.
00:01:23He crashed during a practice session on Friday, injured his wrist and will not be competing
00:01:28in the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:01:30His teammate Alain Prost, however, is on pole position.
00:01:33Well, Prost actually had a battle for the pole several times.
00:01:37Nelson Piquet, the two of them are going back and forth but it was Alain Prost who did secure
00:01:42pole here in Belgium.
00:01:43It's his 15th pole position for his career and the world championship, Bob, looks like
00:01:48it's going very much his way at this point.
00:01:52Stand by now for the 1985 Belgian Grand Prix which is being brought to you by Budweiser
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00:02:09John will be back to talk with Alain Prost right after these messages.
00:02:22We are back at the Belgian Grand Prix and we apologize for massive technical difficulties
00:02:36that we have experienced both audio and video here.
00:02:39But here is the situation.
00:02:40First of all, at the moment, you are looking at Elio De Angelis' Lotus being pushed back
00:02:45into the garage.
00:02:46Elio De Angelis was running in the top 10 but has dropped out of competition.
00:02:52The situation is Ayrton Senna is the leader.
00:02:55He took the lead at the drop of the green and has held the lead ever since.
00:03:01Second position belongs to Nigel Mansell.
00:03:05He is 11 seconds behind Senna.
00:03:08Third place is K.K.
00:03:09Rosberg in the Williams Honda.
00:03:12In fourth position is Alain Prost in the McLaren.
00:03:16In fifth is Kiri Bootsen in the Arrows, the hometown driver.
00:03:21Sixth is Patrick Tambay.
00:03:23Seventh is Derek Warwick.
00:03:25Eighth is Eddie Cheever.
00:03:27Ninth is Teo Fabi.
00:03:28And tenth is Nelson Piquet in the Brabham.
00:03:31Gerhard Berger is running in 11th position.
00:03:34Jacques Lafitte is 12th.
00:03:35Mark Suhr in 13th.
00:03:37Philippe Streif 14th.
00:03:39Riccardo Patrese is in 15th position.
00:03:43Several cars have dropped out of competition, including Michele Alboreto in the Ferrari
00:03:48and also his teammate, Stefan Johansson.
00:03:52We have had a couple of cars into the guardrail, but nothing serious.
00:03:56Philippe Aliot and the Ram Hearts had an accident, but he walked back to the pit area,
00:04:01so no major injuries and any accidents to this point.
00:04:05And all the cars are on the slick racing tires at this point in the race.
00:04:10Everyone has come into the pit, made their pit stops,
00:04:13off the wet tires, onto the racing slicks.
00:04:16Now, both the Ferraris are out of the race.
00:04:19Michele Alboreto started in his spare car, but was said to have fuel leaking on the grid.
00:04:24So certainly only the few laps that he did could have been a bit of that fuel problem.
00:04:30Also, when Stefan Johansson came into the pit with the Ferrari,
00:04:34they dropped the Ferrari off of the jack and down onto the pit tarmac.
00:04:41And Stefan went out only a few laps after that
00:04:43without making any contact with anyone else or the guardrail.
00:04:47You can see his car parked in the background there.
00:04:49So they could have damaged that car during that pit stop with it falling off the jack.
00:04:55The weather, very changeable.
00:04:56In Belgium, earlier today, we had rain that wetted the track
00:05:02and caused the drivers to start on the rain tires.
00:05:05About 15 minutes ago, we had a little bit of sunshine,
00:05:08but now it is very cloudy again,
00:05:10and it looks like there could be possibly some light drizzle on some portions of the racetrack.
00:05:16So it is not a nice day weather-wise at all here in Brussels.
00:05:20We continue to watch Alain Prost here, running in fourth position behind K.K. Rosberg.
00:05:26Alain Prost, of course, is the points leader in World Championship standings with 65,
00:05:31and Alain looking for his first World Championship this year,
00:05:35and appears on his way to doing so.
00:05:38After this race, there will be three more to go at Brands Pass,
00:05:41the European Grand Prix, in South Africa, and in Australia.
00:05:47And with Michele Alboreto out of today's race, he will gain no points,
00:05:52and Prost would like to add as many as possible to his lead.
00:05:56That would cause him to get even closer to a World Championship.
00:06:00Alain Prost, 30 years of age, born in France, living in Switzerland, running fourth right now.
00:06:05Of course, Bob, he wants all the points he can collect,
00:06:08but certainly he told us before the race that he was going to drive the race
00:06:11according to how Alboreto was doing.
00:06:13Well, with Alboreto out of the event very early on,
00:06:18you can see Prost, when he was challenged by several of the people in front of him,
00:06:22both Williams, he didn't give them any fight whatsoever in letting those Williams cars by.
00:06:27He wants to collect fourth right now.
00:06:30Of course, Bob, he wants all the points he can collect,
00:06:33but certainly he told us before the race that he was going to drive the race
00:06:37according to how Alboreto was doing.
00:06:39Well, with Alboreto out of the event very early on,
00:06:43you can see Prost, when he was challenged by several of the people in front of him,
00:06:48both Williams, he didn't give them any fight whatsoever in letting those Williams cars by.
00:06:52He wants to collect several points and keep the car on the road.
00:06:57He's very tricky, half dry, half wet conditions.
00:07:00He's driving a conservative race.
00:07:03K.K. Rosberg is running in third position.
00:07:06There he is in the yellow, blue, and white Canon-sponsored Williams Honda.
00:07:10K.K. has not finished the last four out of five races.
00:07:14He has, however, won a race earlier this year at Detroit
00:07:19and has finished second also in France
00:07:22and has been leading a couple of Grands Prix when the car has given out on him
00:07:26and he has fallen out of competition.
00:07:29Right now, K.K. Rosberg running in third spot,
00:07:32just about a second and a half ahead of Alain Prost in fourth.
00:07:38And if you remember, this was a scene that we saw last weekend in Italy.
00:07:42Both Williams out front, running well, everything looking very smooth
00:07:46and both cars retiring with engine problems before the checkered flag.
00:07:51K.K. was one of his best drives ever,
00:07:54coming up from the middle of the field,
00:07:57passing cars virtually every lap,
00:08:00all of that going down the drain due to another engine failure.
00:08:05Once again, we apologize for the technical difficulties
00:08:08that we have experienced here.
00:08:10As you can see, the umbrellas have come out over on the back stretch
00:08:14and in fact, it is raining here in front of us
00:08:15to work located quite a distance away from this dark finish line here,
00:08:21but it is raining in both sections of the racetrack.
00:08:23We believe we have our technical difficulties corrected now.
00:08:26It is very difficult, needless to say,
00:08:29to get both pictures and audio from Europe
00:08:32and such a long distance from the United States,
00:08:34but we hope that you're enjoying our coverage of the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:08:39Ayrton Senna is the leader,
00:08:40followed by Nigel Mansell and K.K. Rosberg
00:08:44with Alain Prost fifth, Boots in fourth rather,
00:08:46Boots in fifth and Tambay is sixth.
00:08:49Back with more from the Belgian Grand Prix right after this.
00:08:54Jenkins and John Bisignano back in Belgium
00:08:57and you can see how the rain has started to come down.
00:09:00In fact, it's coming down rather hard in some locations
00:09:03around this 4.3 mile racetrack.
00:09:06And now, John, the question is, do they come back in for rain tires?
00:09:10Well, it only takes a couple millimeters of wet conditions
00:09:13to lift that car off of the surface of the road and aquaplane.
00:09:18One of the most terrifying and certainly dangerous things
00:09:21that a racing car driver can have happen to him.
00:09:26There's absolutely no steering whatsoever
00:09:29when those front tires lift off that surface.
00:09:31It's virtually like having them in the air.
00:09:33They lose all directional control.
00:09:35Braking, of course, is extremely difficult.
00:09:38If this fails, passes quickly,
00:09:40the team managers may want to leave them out there
00:09:42and hope things dry off quick enough
00:09:44that they do not have to change tires.
00:09:45But the spray is increasing.
00:09:47I certainly think the drivers and team managers
00:09:50are getting very nervous.
00:09:53Yeah, you can clearly see now
00:09:54that that light gray portion of the racetrack
00:09:58that was dry is now becoming darker and wet.
00:10:03So I think it's only a matter of time
00:10:04before we see at least some of the drivers
00:10:06come in for a change of tires.
00:10:09The leader is Ayrton Senna.
00:10:11There he is in car number 12, the Lotus.
00:10:13His advantage over Nigel Mansell now is about 12 seconds
00:10:16with 21 laps completed.
00:10:18We are nearly halfway through the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:10:22Well, let's make a point.
00:10:23As you can see, there's bright sunshine
00:10:25and dry track conditions
00:10:26at several points around the circuit.
00:10:284.3 miles is a long way.
00:10:31There is no way a soft compound rain tire
00:10:34can last for more than two or three laps
00:10:37on dry conditions.
00:10:38If that tire has to run two
00:10:40or maybe three miles on dry conditions,
00:10:43it's only going to be a few laps before
00:10:46it's totally worn out
00:10:47and no good in the dry or the wet.
00:10:49So now this is a judgment
00:10:50that maybe the driver has to make.
00:10:52The team manager doesn't know exactly
00:10:53what it's like all around the circuit.
00:10:55It's certainly raining where we are,
00:10:57but bright sunshine on the other half.
00:11:00What will happen then is the drivers,
00:11:02I guess, will be just extremely careful.
00:11:05And when they're in a wet portion of the racetrack,
00:11:08just slow down a little bit and take it very, very easy.
00:11:11Unlike some of the American race races,
00:11:16the drivers do not have radio contact
00:11:18with their pit crews.
00:11:20This is true in Formula One.
00:11:21The only time they have radio contact
00:11:23is contact is when they come into the pit.
00:11:25So the driver is going to have to use his judgment here.
00:11:29He hates to ignore pit signs from the management.
00:11:32The management hates to have them ignore pit signs.
00:11:35But still, it's going to have to be his call.
00:11:38You can see it's very wet down here in the pit area.
00:11:41But on the far side of the circuit,
00:11:43it is extremely dry.
00:11:45If you think back to the movie Grand Prix,
00:11:47that's exactly what they used to show the Belgian Grand Prix
00:11:51was the fact that here in Spa,
00:11:54part of the circuit can be wet and dry.
00:11:57That was true almost 20 years ago
00:11:59during the making of that movie.
00:12:01And it's still true today.
00:12:03Ayrton Senna, 25 years of age.
00:12:05He's approaching Martin Brundle.
00:12:08And about to put a lap on him.
00:12:09Brundle right now shown in 18th position, four laps down.
00:12:15Ayrton Senna, 25, born in Brazil, lives in England.
00:12:18His first Grand Prix was in Brazil back in 1984.
00:12:22And he has a victory this year on the Formula 1 circuit.
00:12:27That came at San Marino, I should say at Portugal.
00:12:35And the lap count right now is 22.
00:12:39So we are just a little past the halfway point.
00:12:41We'll see if Senna can hold on to his lead here.
00:12:44And what will happen concerning the weather?
00:12:46We'll do that right after we take this break
00:12:49from Spa-Francorchamps.
00:12:58Back at the Belgian Grand Prix
00:13:00where Ayrton Senna continues to lead the top six at this point.
00:13:04Mantle second, Rosberg third, Kroos is fourth,
00:13:07Boots in fifth, Derek Warwick is sixth.
00:13:10Tambay, Cheever, Piquet, and Gerhardt, Berger.
00:13:15You know, Bob, in the early opening lap of this race,
00:13:17when it was extremely wet,
00:13:19the Williams car of Nigel Mantle
00:13:22was eating everyone else virtually alive.
00:13:24And he was catching Kroos and passed him easily
00:13:27and went on to try and catch Ayrton Senna
00:13:30before everyone came into the pit for tire changes.
00:13:32It's going to be interesting.
00:13:34Nigel has been losing ground to Ayrton in the wet condition.
00:13:37It'll be interesting to see if he's able to catch up
00:13:40any of that distance in the wet portions of this circuit.
00:13:43A very difficult, very hard thing for a driver to calculate.
00:13:47When to go fast, when to slow down.
00:13:49Of course, this is a very fuel-sensitive circuit.
00:13:52Ayrton Senna has been leading
00:13:54more Grand Prix laps this season than anyone else.
00:13:57In fact, more than several drivers combined.
00:14:00And Ayrton certainly has to do a job
00:14:02of calculating fuel and condition
00:14:04to make sure he can actually get to the green flag.
00:14:07We have 10 cars on the lead lap.
00:14:10Gerhard Berger, car number 17,
00:14:12is running right ahead of Senna at this point.
00:14:14So if he should get by Berger,
00:14:16we will have nine cars on the lead lap.
00:14:18And as they go down the back stretch
00:14:21under the Marlboro Bridge,
00:14:22he does indeed put a lap on Gerhard Berger.
00:14:24So nine cars now remain on the lead lap.
00:14:28Senna is at this point in control of this race
00:14:32with a 14-second advantage on Nigel Mantle.
00:14:37And Senna has turned the fastest lap of the race.
00:14:40He has lowered the previous record,
00:14:42which was held by Andre de Cesaris,
00:14:44by about three seconds.
00:14:46Senna turning the track in two minutes,
00:14:48four seconds, .736 earlier
00:14:51before, I assume, the rain came out.
00:14:53And Ayrton Senna is considered a wet-weather driver.
00:14:57Everyone will remember the very controversial
00:14:59Monaco Grand Prix two years ago,
00:15:02where he was catching Alain Prost extremely well.
00:15:05And they dropped the checkered flag early on that event
00:15:08because of the wet conditions.
00:15:10Also in Portugal, where the track was not wet,
00:15:13it was actually flooded, a river.
00:15:16And Senna did extremely well there.
00:15:19And he actually, the worse things get,
00:15:21the better he does.
00:15:23Just a quick mention, that red light you see
00:15:25at the back of the car, that is not a brake light.
00:15:27That's what they call the rain light.
00:15:28When the spray is flying,
00:15:30the most difficult thing for a driver to do
00:15:32is not control the surface of the road
00:15:34or his car on the surface of the road,
00:15:36but it is to see.
00:15:37And that rain light is simply so that the drivers behind
00:15:40have some object to follow in the missing spray.
00:15:44There you see the top six at this point.
00:15:46Senna, Mantell, Rosberg, Prost, Bootson, and Warwick.
00:15:50And that red light, by the way,
00:15:52will be required on IndyCars next year
00:15:54because they are so at home now
00:15:57on the road courses in the United States.
00:15:59And while we're talking about IndyCars,
00:16:01we'll mention to you that Bobby Rahal
00:16:04will be testing a March car
00:16:06over here in Europe this coming week.
00:16:08And there's all kinds of speculation
00:16:11and stories going around
00:16:12concerning the Ferrari in IndyCar racing next year
00:16:16and exactly who will be the driver of it
00:16:18and who will be the team manager
00:16:20of the Ferrari in the United States.
00:16:23But the Bobby Rahal testing session,
00:16:25which is coming up this coming week,
00:16:26could indeed be a little bit of an indication
00:16:30as to what will happen next year.
00:16:31Now the two Williams Honda cars
00:16:33are running pretty close together on the racetrack.
00:16:35Nigel Mantell still has second position,
00:16:37but K.K. Rosberg is approaching him quickly.
00:16:40K.K. Rosberg is leaving the Williams team
00:16:43to actually join McLaren,
00:16:44but there's been a great rivalry
00:16:46between these two drivers for some time.
00:16:49Nigel Mantell joining the team this year,
00:16:51if you remember back to the Dallas Grand Prix,
00:16:54the one and only Dallas Grand Prix,
00:16:56it was K.K. Rosberg and Nigel Mantell
00:16:58that had such a tremendous battle there
00:17:00when Mantell was driving for Lotus.
00:17:02But here as the two of them come into your view,
00:17:05there's a great team rivalry.
00:17:07K.K. Rosberg still wants to be the number one driver
00:17:10leaving Williams and into McLaren.
00:17:13We might mention that the Beatrice car,
00:17:16which performed at Monza last weekend,
00:17:18made its debut,
00:17:20the first American attempt in Formula 1
00:17:23in about 10 years,
00:17:24at least serious attempt.
00:17:26They are not entered for this race
00:17:27simply because they weren't entered
00:17:29for the race that was scheduled in May
00:17:32and they determined that
00:17:33since they weren't entered in that,
00:17:34they would not compete.
00:17:35They will, however, be back for Grand Patch.
00:17:38That's a race that was postponed earlier this year,
00:17:41was the first weekend of June.
00:17:43So the Beatrice car will be back
00:17:45on the Formula 1 circuit at the next race,
00:17:48which will be in Grand Patch.
00:17:50Well, the Belgians never wanted to admit
00:17:52that their race was the first Grand Prix
00:17:54to be canceled since the 50s.
00:17:58So officially the race was never canceled.
00:18:00It was only postponed
00:18:02as both the Williams' make their way
00:18:04through some back markers.
00:18:05So if the race was only postponed,
00:18:07if you were not entered in the first race,
00:18:09you could not become entered in the second race.
00:18:11So unfortunately, the Beatrice team,
00:18:13the American entrant is not here,
00:18:15but we certainly will be glad to see them
00:18:16back in Grand Patch.
00:18:18And there is only one Tyrrell car here this weekend,
00:18:20and there is the Tyrrell car
00:18:22right ahead of the two Williams Hondas.
00:18:25The Tyrrell car being driven by Martin Brundle.
00:18:27Ken Tyrrell has simply not replaced
00:18:29the fatally injured Stefan Beloff,
00:18:33who lost his life at this racetrack
00:18:35about three weeks ago.
00:18:36A great battle going on here
00:18:38as Brundle is causing some problems there
00:18:41for both Mantle and Rothsburg.
00:18:43We'll see what happens here.
00:18:44Mantle gets a little swirly
00:18:45as he steps back on the accelerator,
00:18:48but a good race here for second position,
00:18:50Nigel Mantle in number five
00:18:52and KK Rothsburg in number six.
00:18:54Of course, the problem is Martin Brundle
00:18:56knows that those people are behind him,
00:18:57but he cannot just pull off line
00:18:59because when he goes off line,
00:19:00it's into the wet.
00:19:02But still on the straightaway,
00:19:03both cars get by.
00:19:04In fact, no one's on line now.
00:19:05They're all in the wet.
00:19:07But still, KK Rothsburg,
00:19:08heavy on the brakes,
00:19:09took a look on the inside of Nigel
00:19:12and said, not this time, Nigel,
00:19:13but keep looking in your mirrors,
00:19:15good friend,
00:19:15because it's going to happen.
00:19:19I'm going to prove to everyone
00:19:20that I'm still number one in this team,
00:19:22even though I only have three races to go.
00:19:24While these two drivers battle
00:19:25for second position,
00:19:27our leader Ayrton Senna
00:19:29continues to stretch out the advantage.
00:19:31It's now up to almost 18 seconds.
00:19:34Ayrton Senna's lead over
00:19:36Nigel Mantle and KK Rothsburg.
00:19:38We're watching the battle
00:19:39for second position.
00:19:40We have completed 25 laps
00:19:42of the 43-lap Belgium Grand Prix.
00:19:45When you see those spectacular sparks,
00:19:47don't be too worried about that.
00:19:49That's something that happens
00:19:50when the cars are heavily loaded
00:19:51with the 55 gallons of fuel
00:19:53that they carry,
00:19:54especially when the people start out
00:19:56in rain setting.
00:19:57The car is even softer on the spring,
00:19:59so therefore,
00:20:00when they do go over the bumps,
00:20:02the cars bottom out
00:20:03onto the skid plate.
00:20:04It is spectacular,
00:20:05but not uncalculated for
00:20:07and not terribly dangerous.
00:20:10Running behind these two Williams drivers
00:20:14in fourth position is Alain Prost,
00:20:16the current holder of the lead
00:20:18in the battle for the World Championship
00:20:21in the McLaren.
00:20:22By the way,
00:20:22this was the place
00:20:24where McLaren gained its very first win
00:20:27back in 1968
00:20:28with Bruce McLaren in the cockpit,
00:20:31and they have a total of seven wins now
00:20:34in Formula One competition
00:20:36here at the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:20:41You mentioned earlier
00:20:41about Bobby Rahal
00:20:43coming over here to test
00:20:45at the Ferrari track in Italy.
00:20:47Well, you know, Bob,
00:20:48Ferrari has invited many teams
00:20:50to test at that particular track.
00:20:52It's certainly the finest test track
00:20:54facility in the world,
00:20:55so you can watch the car
00:20:57and measure all movements of suspension,
00:21:00videos on every single corner.
00:21:02But the thing is,
00:21:03when that car leaves Maranello,
00:21:07Ferrari knows as much about the car
00:21:09as the people who are running it.
00:21:10So it is an incredible situation
00:21:14and advantage for Ferrari.
00:21:15They're not being over generous.
00:21:17They're trying to figure out
00:21:18how an F1 car compares to an IndyCar.
00:21:22All right,
00:21:22we're going to take a break
00:21:24and be back with more
00:21:25of the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:21:26We'll see if K.K.
00:21:27Rothberg can pass his teammate
00:21:29and move into second position
00:21:30right after this.
00:21:34Back at Spa-Francorchamps
00:21:36for the Belgian Grand Prix,
00:21:37Bob Jenkins and John Bisigliano.
00:21:40The Williams cars continue
00:21:42to run in the same order.
00:21:43K.K.
00:21:43Rothberg has not been able
00:21:45to pass his teammate
00:21:46Nigel Mansell for second.
00:21:48Ayrton Senna continues to be the later,
00:21:50and his advantage
00:21:51now up to 18 seconds.
00:21:53So he is picking up
00:21:54about a second a lap, John,
00:21:56on the rest of the field.
00:21:57Do you think that Ayrton
00:21:58could actually crank down
00:21:59the boost now, save his fuel?
00:22:01A very fuel-sensitive circuit here
00:22:03up and down the hills
00:22:04that draws a lot of fuel
00:22:05through these engines.
00:22:06Do you think that Ayrton
00:22:08would be willing to slow down?
00:22:09I'm sure his pits are giving him
00:22:11some easy fines,
00:22:13but still, he's a man
00:22:14that only knows how to run hard
00:22:15one way, and that's flat out.
00:22:17I asked him once why that is,
00:22:19and he said,
00:22:19I can't keep my concentration
00:22:21if I'm not going 10 tenths.
00:22:23If I try and break myself down
00:22:25to 9 tenths or 8 tenths,
00:22:27the concentration falls off,
00:22:29and that's a dangerous situation
00:22:30for myself and my competitors.
00:22:32So he only knows,
00:22:33and there's the only American,
00:22:34Eddie Fever taking a long,
00:22:36slow walk back to the pits.
00:22:39Of course, Eddie has had
00:22:41some moments of glory this season,
00:22:43but with the Alfa Romeo,
00:22:44virtually no success
00:22:46on the racetrack
00:22:48relative to finishes.
00:22:50Eddie has not scored a point this year.
00:22:52His best finish was a 9th.
00:22:53That occurred at France.
00:22:55He is from Phoenix, Arizona,
00:22:57or at least was born in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:22:59However, he lives in Italy now,
00:23:01and has since he was 4 years old.
00:23:04His best career finish was a 2nd
00:23:06in Detroit in 1982
00:23:08and in Canada in 1983.
00:23:12And there, Nigel Mansell
00:23:13quite easily getting around
00:23:15Gerhard Berger from Austria
00:23:17in the Barclays Aero car.
00:23:19Again, if you're wondering
00:23:20why these people aren't moving over
00:23:23for the leaders,
00:23:24they obviously know they're there.
00:23:25It's simply because
00:23:26they cannot go offline
00:23:27because that's where the possibility
00:23:29of aquaplaning exists.
00:23:31So they have to be very,
00:23:33they cannot throw their race away.
00:23:34They have to be very careful
00:23:35for their race,
00:23:37even though Gerhard Berger
00:23:38is well down in the pack.
00:23:39Into the pits,
00:23:41there looks like
00:23:42not a great deal of activity.
00:23:44In the Benetton Alfa Romeo team,
00:23:47we saw Eddie Fever
00:23:48was definitely out of the race
00:23:50and it looked quite
00:23:53slow for Ricardo Petrazzi here.
00:23:55They are going to change the tires,
00:23:56but they must have another problem
00:23:58besides just tires there, Bob.
00:23:59Yeah, they were very slow
00:24:01getting the car up onto the jack,
00:24:02so they apparently have problems
00:24:04other than just
00:24:06than just tire problems.
00:24:07There is Alain Roche
00:24:09who is running in 4th position
00:24:11at this time.
00:24:11He's about 42 seconds
00:24:13behind the leader.
00:24:14Alain not taking any chances
00:24:16wants to finish in the top 6
00:24:18so he can gain some more points
00:24:20that will carry him
00:24:20toward the World Championship.
00:24:22Alain Froese from France.
00:24:26Of course, Froese knows
00:24:28that the Williams
00:24:29do not have the greatest
00:24:30reliability record
00:24:31so far this season,
00:24:33so he was actually following
00:24:36Keke Rosberg in Monza.
00:24:39Very comfortable
00:24:40for a second place finish,
00:24:41but Keke handed him the victory
00:24:44on a platter
00:24:46by dropping out
00:24:47with a huge engine elimination,
00:24:50self-destruction,
00:24:51a tank grenade job
00:24:52as we call it in Formula 1.
00:24:55But Froese is certainly
00:24:57following his race plan
00:24:58that of running a race
00:25:00relative to how
00:25:01Michele Alvareto was doing,
00:25:03and with Michele Alvareto
00:25:04out of this event,
00:25:06Froese wants to pick up
00:25:07the 3 points or 4 points
00:25:09that are certainly going to move him
00:25:10further ahead
00:25:11in the World Championship.
00:25:15Well, Alain Froese's teammate
00:25:17Niki Lauda not competing here
00:25:19this weekend
00:25:19because of an incident
00:25:21that occurred in practice
00:25:23on Friday.
00:25:24Now, John Bisignano
00:25:26had a chance to examine
00:25:27the exact cause of his injury.
00:25:30That was a sprained wrist
00:25:32with torn ligaments and cartilage.
00:25:34Here's John Bisignano.
00:25:37This is Niki Lauda's spare car,
00:25:39and he won't be using this car
00:25:40or the race car
00:25:41today during the Grand Prix
00:25:42because he was injured
00:25:43in a practice accident.
00:25:44I'll show you what happened.
00:25:46When a driver goes into a barrier,
00:25:49knowing that he's going to hit for sure,
00:25:50he braces himself very hard
00:25:52with his legs and his hands.
00:25:54Now, he's holding onto the wheel
00:25:55as hard as he can
00:25:56to try and absorb the impact.
00:25:58The right front wheel
00:25:59took the barrier
00:26:00and spun the wheel
00:26:02with Niki holding on
00:26:03as hard as he could.
00:26:04Now, something has to give,
00:26:05and what it was
00:26:06was the tendons and ligaments
00:26:08in his wrist.
00:26:09The Hercules carbon fiber chassis
00:26:11did a great job of absorbing
00:26:13the rest of the impact,
00:26:14no other injury.
00:26:15But it was that spin
00:26:17that took Niki Lauda
00:26:18out of the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:26:24So, Niki Lauda,
00:26:26not here this weekend.
00:26:27He packed it up
00:26:28and went home
00:26:28after suffering that injury.
00:26:30And John Watson
00:26:34was at least approached
00:26:35about driving the car
00:26:37this weekend
00:26:37and substituting for Lauda, wasn't he?
00:26:39Well, he was more than approached, Bob.
00:26:40He actually showed up here
00:26:42very early on Saturday morning,
00:26:44a rear-jetted skim over here
00:26:47to hopefully fill in.
00:26:50As we see, Keke Rosberg
00:26:52having another look
00:26:53on the inside there.
00:26:54But for him to be able
00:26:55to take over Niki Lauda's spot
00:26:58and not be originally injured
00:26:59into the race,
00:27:00Keke Rosberg trying to put
00:27:01all the power down his hand there.
00:27:02Excuse me, John Watson
00:27:05for interrupting this story.
00:27:07Keke Rosberg certainly having
00:27:08a very serious look
00:27:10at Nigel Mansour here.
00:27:11Going down the back straight,
00:27:12it seems like Nigel
00:27:14is able to keep Keke
00:27:15at bay on the long straight.
00:27:17There you can see
00:27:18how he can pull it out.
00:27:19But anyway, for Nigel Mansour,
00:27:22for John Watson
00:27:23to be able to substitute
00:27:24for Niki Lauda,
00:27:25all the team managers
00:27:26certainly would have had
00:27:27to sign an agreement
00:27:28that no one
00:27:31had any objections to that.
00:27:32And Ron Dennis knew
00:27:34that there would be
00:27:35certainly some teams out there
00:27:36that would object to it.
00:27:37So they actually,
00:27:39once it was declared
00:27:40that this circular note
00:27:42would have to be signed
00:27:43by everyone,
00:27:44it was never really.
00:27:46As Keke Rosberg
00:27:47certainly has a very serious
00:27:48look there.
00:27:49And the door goes slammed.
00:27:51These are teammates
00:27:52racing, by the way,
00:27:53here for second position,
00:27:55Mansour and Rosberg.
00:27:56And of course,
00:27:57the speculation continues
00:27:59about the future of Niki Lauda.
00:28:00He's already announced
00:28:01his retirement for next year.
00:28:03The question is,
00:28:04will he compete in any more
00:28:06Formula One races this year?
00:28:09Of course, again,
00:28:11Ron Dennis did not circulate
00:28:12that note for Watson
00:28:13to go ahead
00:28:13and substitute for Niki
00:28:15because he knew that
00:28:16it would not be signed
00:28:16by all the teams.
00:28:17But again,
00:28:18another very controversial here
00:28:21as we see the replay of this.
00:28:22Now watch what
00:28:23you talk about teammates.
00:28:25Certainly Keke Rosberg
00:28:26has the inertia to get by.
00:28:28Nigel sees him
00:28:30and just goes right ahead
00:28:31and says,
00:28:31sorry, Keke.
00:28:34You may be,
00:28:34you may think you're
00:28:35number one in this team,
00:28:36but I have other ideas
00:28:38about that.
00:28:39And welcome to the Polaris.
00:28:41So Nigel Mantle continues
00:28:43to hold off the challenge
00:28:44of Keke Rosberg here.
00:28:45This is for second position now
00:28:48as Ayrton Senna
00:28:49continues to maintain the lead.
00:28:51We have not seen
00:28:54Ayrton stretch out the advantage
00:28:55of the last few laps
00:28:56as we have.
00:28:57Well, we understand
00:28:58that we have a video problem
00:29:00once again,
00:29:00so we will take
00:29:01this commercial break
00:29:02and hopefully have our problems
00:29:04solved in just a moment.
00:29:06Back at the Belgian Grand Prix
00:29:11at Paul Francorchamps
00:29:13where Senna continues to lead.
00:29:15Mantle is second,
00:29:16Rosberg third,
00:29:17Prost is fourth.
00:29:18Thierry Bootsen in a fine run
00:29:20is still in fifth position,
00:29:22I should say.
00:29:23And a car off the racetrack
00:29:24here, John.
00:29:26Nigel Mantle certainly
00:29:27went wide there.
00:29:28Nigel Mantle has a reputation
00:29:30of being very spectacular
00:29:32and very smooth
00:29:32for a short period of time.
00:29:34And also Keke Rosberg
00:29:35has dropped back.
00:29:36I don't see Keke
00:29:37anywhere in this view.
00:29:38I hate to think
00:29:39that he has had
00:29:41another engine problem
00:29:43just when he was
00:29:44challenging his teammate.
00:29:45But certainly Keke Rosberg
00:29:47is no longer
00:29:48interrupting our commentary
00:29:50on other things.
00:29:51There is no picture
00:29:52of Keke Rosberg
00:29:53here whatsoever.
00:29:54We wish that the Belgian TV
00:29:56would try and find him
00:29:57so that everyone around the world
00:29:58would know what happened to him.
00:30:00These are not the ESPN
00:30:01cameramen here.
00:30:03These are strictly Belgium.
00:30:06Let's leave it at that.
00:30:08But Keke Rosberg
00:30:10is certainly missing.
00:30:11Here we have the replay
00:30:13of Nigel Mantle
00:30:14going wide.
00:30:15You can see
00:30:16the wheels are certainly...
00:30:18They were never locked up.
00:30:20But look at that car
00:30:21come off the ground.
00:30:22He would have done that
00:30:22with a ground effect car
00:30:24a few years ago.
00:30:24That would have been
00:30:25the end of his race.
00:30:26One of the nice things
00:30:27about going flat bottom
00:30:29is the fact that the cars
00:30:30are much less sensitive
00:30:31to a minor or a major
00:30:34off-track excursion.
00:30:35I would call that a major one
00:30:37with all four wheels
00:30:38off the ground.
00:30:38Yeah, I would say so.
00:30:39And that is the second time
00:30:40that Nigel has had a problem here
00:30:42as he spun down in the hairpin
00:30:45early on,
00:30:46however, did not lose a position.
00:30:48And now Mantle gets off the track
00:30:50but again maintains
00:30:51that second spot.
00:30:53Keke Rosberg has slowed down
00:30:55on the racetrack
00:30:56and it appears that
00:30:56his mechanical woes
00:30:58that have plagued him
00:30:59for the last four
00:31:00out of five races
00:31:01are continuing.
00:31:03Bob, when that racing
00:31:05was going on
00:31:05between Keke and Nigel,
00:31:06you were talking
00:31:08about Nicky Lauda
00:31:09maybe not coming back
00:31:10into Formula One.
00:31:11I did want to reflect on that.
00:31:13There has been a rumor here
00:31:14that Lauda has decided
00:31:16after this injury
00:31:17to go ahead and not
00:31:18make the last few races.
00:31:20They have certainly had
00:31:21another rumor
00:31:22that there's been
00:31:23some harsh words
00:31:24between Nicky Lauda
00:31:25and Ron Dennis.
00:31:26We do not want to emphasize
00:31:28these rumors too heavily.
00:31:29I think as we watch
00:31:32Nigel Mantle
00:31:33that Nicky Lauda
00:31:34will finish the season.
00:31:35He says he wants
00:31:36to finish the season.
00:31:37He won the Grand Prix
00:31:39after announcing
00:31:41his retirement.
00:31:41So certainly he wants
00:31:42to go out of this sport
00:31:44as a winner.
00:31:45Well, if Nigel can hold
00:31:47his second position here
00:31:48or if he can win the race,
00:31:50it'll be his best finish ever
00:31:51in a Formula One event.
00:31:53His best career finish
00:31:54coming into this event
00:31:55was third place
00:31:56and he finished
00:31:57their five different occasions.
00:31:59He's a former Lotus driver,
00:32:01of course, drove for Lotus
00:32:031980 to 84.
00:32:04He won the pole twice
00:32:05in 1984 at Monaco
00:32:07and in Dallas.
00:32:09But a Formula One win
00:32:10has eluded him.
00:32:12Well, it was the late
00:32:14Colin Chapman
00:32:14that brought Nigel
00:32:15into Formula One
00:32:16and he was one of the people
00:32:18that didn't buy a ride
00:32:19or didn't have
00:32:20personal sponsorships
00:32:22to go ahead
00:32:23and allow himself
00:32:24to get a Formula One drive.
00:32:27That is a picture
00:32:27of Keke Ross right now.
00:32:29He's certainly still
00:32:30on the track
00:32:32and we have a note
00:32:33that he came in for tires.
00:32:35Unfortunately,
00:32:36our broadcast booth
00:32:37is not a view of the pit lane.
00:32:39We apologize for not knowing
00:32:41exactly what's happening.
00:32:43And again,
00:32:43this is not the ESPN
00:32:45design and thing.
00:32:46Naya Tonsenta
00:32:47leading the race,
00:32:48shifting up the hill
00:32:50past the old pit.
00:32:52That's the old
00:32:53Truncalshaw pit
00:32:54that has been so famous
00:32:55for so many years.
00:32:57Up this long,
00:32:58sweeping
00:33:00section of the track
00:33:01onto the back straight
00:33:02where the cars
00:33:03just touched
00:33:04over 190 miles an hour.
00:33:07As you can see,
00:33:08the Eiffel Mountains here.
00:33:09It rains here
00:33:10some 300 days a year,
00:33:12so it's not too tough
00:33:13for things to be green.
00:33:16We have 12 laps to go.
00:33:17Ayrton Senna
00:33:18continues to be the leader.
00:33:19We'll be back
00:33:20in just a moment.
00:33:22Ayrton Senna from Brazil
00:33:24continues to lead
00:33:25the Belgian Grand Prix,
00:33:27and he has been leading
00:33:28since the drop
00:33:29of the green flag.
00:33:30He started the race
00:33:31as everybody else did
00:33:33on rain tires.
00:33:34However, he came in
00:33:35to change them.
00:33:36He did not lose first place
00:33:38and is holding it right now
00:33:40by about 22 seconds.
00:33:43KK Rothberg
00:33:44has been in for a tire change
00:33:46in the last few laps.
00:33:47He's been in for a tire change
00:33:49in the last few laps.
00:33:50He's been in for a tire change
00:33:51in the last few laps,
00:33:52dropping him from his second-place battle
00:33:55with his teammate Nigel Mantle.
00:33:57Some of the other drivers
00:33:58who have dropped out of competition,
00:34:00Elio De Angelis
00:34:01went out with an engine problem.
00:34:03Michele Alboreto
00:34:04and Stefan Johansson,
00:34:05the two Ferrari drivers,
00:34:06were out early.
00:34:08Felipe Aglio
00:34:09was out with an accident,
00:34:10and Eddie Cheever
00:34:11has also dropped out of competition.
00:34:13There's been a battle
00:34:14going on all race long
00:34:15among Mantle and Senna
00:34:19at the quickest lap in the race,
00:34:21and right now,
00:34:23Senna has gotten that distinction back.
00:34:25He just turned the fastest lap of the race
00:34:27at 2 minutes, 3.956 seconds,
00:34:30and prior to that, Mantle held it.
00:34:32The old record, by the way,
00:34:33was held by Andrea de Cesaris.
00:34:35That was about four seconds slower
00:34:38than the pace that Senna
00:34:39is setting here today.
00:34:41Well, Bob, let's look at
00:34:42the World Championship points here
00:34:44just for one moment.
00:34:45Alain Fros is 65 points,
00:34:47Michele Alboreto out of the race
00:34:49with 53 points,
00:34:50Elio de Angelis and the gun player Lotus
00:34:52out of the race with 31 points,
00:34:54and it's on Senna.
00:34:55Let's say he collects nine more points here.
00:34:57He has 23.
00:34:58That will move him up to 32 points,
00:35:02virtually only half the points
00:35:05that Alain Fros has.
00:35:06If Fros is able to pick up
00:35:09a few more points this weekend
00:35:11and with most of his competition
00:35:13out of the race,
00:35:15then Alain Fros is going to look
00:35:18very good for the World Championship.
00:35:20Fros right now is running in third spot
00:35:22as Riccardo Petrazzi comes back in
00:35:25for his tire change.
00:35:26He's been in and out of the pits all day.
00:35:27His teammate Eddie Cheever
00:35:28has dropped out of the race.
00:35:29Now, Rothberg's tire change
00:35:31dropped him one spot.
00:35:32He's back to fourth.
00:35:33Alain Fros moves up to third position.
00:35:36Well, John, you were at Portugal
00:35:38earlier this year
00:35:39for the Portuguese Grand Prix.
00:35:41It was a race very similar to this
00:35:42as far as weather conditions are concerned,
00:35:44and it could be the same winner.
00:35:46Well, it was actually flooded conditions,
00:35:50and that's where Ayrton Senna
00:35:52showed that he was the king of the West.
00:35:54Ayrton circulated that track
00:35:56in absolutely flooded conditions.
00:35:59Many drivers would have never been able
00:36:01to maintain the pace that he did.
00:36:03He lapped virtually the entire field,
00:36:06was so elated with his first Grand Prix victory
00:36:08to come around,
00:36:10threw his hands up in the air,
00:36:12took off the belt,
00:36:13and was halfway out of the car
00:36:15waving and enjoying himself so much.
00:36:17Right when Jackie Stewart and I were talking
00:36:19about what a cool, calm,
00:36:20collected individual he was,
00:36:22he went and undid his belt
00:36:23and virtually leapt out of the car
00:36:25to celebrate his victory
00:36:27in not such a calm, cool, and collected way.
00:36:30But Ayrton Senna is certainly...
00:36:33He is one of these drivers
00:36:34that only comes around every few years.
00:36:36The experts say,
00:36:37there's another Jackie Stewart,
00:36:39there's another Jochen Wilk,
00:36:40there's another Nicky Lauda.
00:36:42All in Ayrton Senna,
00:36:44the natural talent is there.
00:36:46Sometimes he will be a full two or three seconds
00:36:49faster than the nearest competitor,
00:36:51and people wonder where it is.
00:36:53Is it in the brakes?
00:36:54Is it in the shaft of the aerodynamics?
00:36:56No, it's in Ayrton Senna.
00:36:58He himself is faster.
00:37:00Ayrton began his racing career in go-karts
00:37:03at the age of 13,
00:37:04and he won the very first go-kart race
00:37:07that he competed in.
00:37:08He moved up to Formula 4,
00:37:09was the British champion in 81.
00:37:11He won the British and European Formula 4
00:37:132000 series,
00:37:14was the British Formula 3 champ back in 1982,
00:37:17and has progressed to Formula 1,
00:37:19actually progressed there in Brazil last year.
00:37:22Most recently,
00:37:23had a third-place finish in Monza,
00:37:24was a third-place finisher in the Dutch Grand Prix,
00:37:27and was second in Austria.
00:37:29Now in the lead here at Belgium.
00:37:32Few other drivers that have dropped out of competition
00:37:34include Patrick Tambay,
00:37:35Theo Fabi is out,
00:37:36and so is Fioricarlo Ginzani.
00:37:38I mentioned earlier that
00:37:40there wasn't a second Toleman car here,
00:37:43a second Toleman car is here,
00:37:45with Ginzani in the cockpit,
00:37:46there is not a second Ram car here.
00:37:48They were simply out of engines.
00:37:50The scheduled driver for that second Ram car,
00:37:52of course, is Kenny Atkinson.
00:37:56Terry Bootson, John,
00:37:57continues to be a big story here.
00:37:59He is the home country favorite,
00:38:02so to speak.
00:38:02He is from Belgium,
00:38:04qualified well,
00:38:05and is in fifth position,
00:38:07and he's been running in that spot for most of the race,
00:38:10doing a fine job.
00:38:12Terry Bootson, qualified sixth,
00:38:13and is now fifth,
00:38:15certainly, in the Barkley Arrows BMW power car.
00:38:18He has shown himself to be a real competitor,
00:38:21and he wanted to do that in his Belgium crowd,
00:38:24and make these people feel like
00:38:27there is an international competitor
00:38:29who can go out and run with anyone else
00:38:32in the Formula One circus.
00:38:35Belgium is a small country,
00:38:36they don't have great resources of athletes to draw on,
00:38:40so when they do get someone,
00:38:42first, Jacky Ickx was another example,
00:38:45when they do get someone like Ickx or Terry Bootson,
00:38:48the Belgian people love to rally around that individual
00:38:52and see their tricolors doing well
00:38:55in international competition.
00:38:57We're watching Nigel Mansell,
00:38:58who continues to run in second spot.
00:39:01You know, John, up to this point in the races
00:39:03that we have covered,
00:39:04the camera crews and the director
00:39:06will select the home country favorite and follow him.
00:39:10Nothing was more apparent than that than last week,
00:39:12when we saw the Ferraris a lot of the time,
00:39:14when they weren't really up battling
00:39:16for position up front,
00:39:17and you would think that they would give us a few shots
00:39:19of Terry Bootson here,
00:39:20who is doing well,
00:39:22but yet we don't see him.
00:39:23We wish they'd give us a shot of anyone at the moment,
00:39:25and who is it?
00:39:26It is Terry Bootson.
00:39:28Amazing.
00:39:29So the Barkley Arrows does come through
00:39:31for a little camera time,
00:39:32but still, I think it was so blatant in Italy,
00:39:37and people were wondering why the Ferraris
00:39:39were being shown so often,
00:39:42that they probably have to stick a little bit more
00:39:46to the race action,
00:39:47rather than the local crowd.
00:39:50Well, here is Alain Froese,
00:39:51who has moved up to third spot now.
00:39:54He is a considerable distance behind the leader,
00:39:56but as we said, Alain,
00:39:57at this point,
00:39:58we believe to be more interested
00:40:00in finishing the race and gaining points
00:40:02than to really make a challenge for the lead.
00:40:08One thing on our list of copy points here,
00:40:10and it's not a bad point to bring up,
00:40:13is yesterday in the paddock, Bob,
00:40:15we noticed that there has been
00:40:16a Formula One baby boom.
00:40:18On Thursday, Tim Hunt,
00:40:21our son of the world champion James Hunt,
00:40:24was born.
00:40:25Nigel Mansfield has had a lovely little girl
00:40:27added to the family.
00:40:29Keke Rosberg has a son,
00:40:31O.J. Monture,
00:40:32and his lovely American wife, Kathy,
00:40:35have had a beautiful little daughter to their family.
00:40:38So these Formula One drivers
00:40:41have been thinking in terms of families
00:40:45and bringing up children
00:40:48in the middle of all this competition.
00:40:50And perhaps each of those young babies
00:40:53will at some point be following
00:40:55in their father's footsteps.
00:40:58And of course,
00:40:59we should not fail to mention
00:41:01the young son of John Bisignano,
00:41:04who is about six months of age right now,
00:41:06and kind of a cute kid.
00:41:09Thank goodness he looks like his mother.
00:41:11I keep telling him that those beautiful red cars
00:41:22are not race cars.
00:41:25And he will fall in love with tennis rackets
00:41:27instead of race cars.
00:41:28Nelson Piquet in car number seven
00:41:33is in seventh position at this point.
00:41:35And turning the track very quickly,
00:41:37turned in a lap there of two minutes,
00:41:392.655 seconds.
00:41:41So Piquet beginning to pick up the pace here
00:41:43in seventh spot.
00:41:45He is a lap down, however, to the leader.
00:41:49Senna continues to be the leader.
00:41:51The interval between Senna and Nigel Mansfield
00:41:54running in second position
00:41:56has now stretched out to 31 seconds.
00:41:5936 laps have been completed out of 43.
00:42:02We'll be right back with more
00:42:03from Tom Wonderschamp.
00:42:13Back at the Belgian Grand Prix,
00:42:15Tom Higgins and John Bisignano.
00:42:17And here is the battle for fifth,
00:42:19sixth, and seventh position.
00:42:20Now Thierry Bootsen here in car number 18
00:42:23has just fallen back two positions.
00:42:25We suspect maybe there's a problem with his car.
00:42:28Derek Warwick has now moved into fifth.
00:42:31Nelson Piquet is sixth
00:42:34and Bootsen is back to seventh spot.
00:42:37And there is Riccardo Petrazzi
00:42:41once again in the pit area
00:42:42as we indicated earlier.
00:42:48As we indicated earlier,
00:42:50he has been out of the pit several times.
00:42:56The battle on the racetrack continues.
00:42:58There is Bootsen who is now in seventh spot.
00:43:01A bit of bad luck for him as he was in fifth.
00:43:09Thierry Bootsen
00:43:12in the Markley Tarot BMW car number 18
00:43:16running in seventh spot now.
00:43:19And it doesn't appear as if there is anything
00:43:22major wrong with that car.
00:43:23He just slowed down there for a while
00:43:26and allowed both Warwick
00:43:29and Nelson Piquet to pass him.
00:43:35So Ayrton Senna continues to lead here
00:43:38while Nigel Mansell runs second
00:43:40along road third
00:43:41and KK Rothberg is in fourth position.
00:43:44Now we pick up the number 17 car
00:43:46of Gerhard Berger
00:43:47who is a teammate to Thierry Bootsen.
00:43:50He is a lap down in ninth spot.
00:43:5438 laps have been completed out of 43.
00:44:00And Alain Frost now has the fastest lap of the race.
00:44:03It occurred on lap number 38 of 2 minutes 1.730.
00:44:07They qualified this weekend at a minute 55.306.
00:44:12So the pacer setting is about seven seconds slower
00:44:15than they qualified,
00:44:16but certainly not very good.
00:44:19And of course, one of the problems is
00:44:21they could have never stayed on the wet tires here
00:44:25because they would have been worn out
00:44:26in only a few laps with the drying conditions.
00:44:29You can see the line coming out of the pit
00:44:31is the Liget of Jacques Lafitte.
00:44:34But the track conditions
00:44:36are not very good.
00:44:37They're not very good.
00:44:38They're not very good.
00:44:39They're not very good.
00:44:40They're not very good.
00:44:40They're not very good.
00:44:41They're not very good.
00:44:42They're not very good.
00:44:43They're not very good.
00:44:43They're not very good.
00:44:44They're not very good.
00:44:45They're not very good.
00:44:45They're not very good.
00:44:46They're not very good.
00:44:46They're not very good.
00:44:47They're not very good.
00:44:47They're not very good.
00:44:48They're not very good.
00:44:48But the wet tires are made of such a soft compound
00:44:52that they will actually heat up
00:44:54and make grip in wet conditions.
00:44:56But still, on a dry track,
00:44:59they are worthless due to the fact
00:45:01that they will completely run themselves
00:45:04into a blistering situation with high temperatures.
00:45:07One of the Ligets there parked in only a few laps.
00:45:11There's certainly some damage to the right rear of that car.
00:45:15We saw Jacques Lafitte come out of the pit
00:45:16only seconds ago.
00:45:17There is Jacques Lafitte.
00:45:18He's OK standing next to the side there in the guardrail.
00:45:21He's just stepping over the guardrail there.
00:45:23It looks like maybe something could have gone wrong
00:45:26during that pit stop.
00:45:28Certainly a sad situation for Jacques Lafitte,
00:45:32who is the lightest weight driver in Formula One.
00:45:35I think that incident occurred just to the left of us
00:45:38down here.
00:45:39I saw some spray being raised.
00:45:41And I think that Lafitte just got into the wet conditions
00:45:44and split off the track, broke his suspension.
00:45:47And that's going to put him out of our race.
00:45:50With just a few more laps to go, Ayrton Senna,
00:45:53here he is coming down the area of the racetrack
00:45:56right in front of us.
00:45:57He'll be passing Lafitte's car here in just a second.
00:46:01Now he climbs uphill.
00:46:02Ayrton Senna, the leader of the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:46:07And a well-deserved victory for Ayrton Senna.
00:46:10He has led more laps than anyone else in Formula One
00:46:13this season.
00:46:14The flags are waving there for him.
00:46:16He's certainly someone who can lead a race,
00:46:18but has had bad luck in finishing them.
00:46:21His teammate, Elio de Angelis, has always given him
00:46:24a great challenge in qualifying,
00:46:27and is one of the best individuals
00:46:29at bringing the car home in the points.
00:46:31That's why Elio is actually third in the World Championships,
00:46:34finished second in the World Championships.
00:46:37Finished third in the World Championships last year,
00:46:39second to Alain Prost.
00:46:41Now, Ayrton Senna has been criticized
00:46:45by team managers, other drivers,
00:46:47for being too tough on his equipment.
00:46:49We asked him that question once, and he said,
00:46:52they just don't make the equipment tough enough
00:46:54for my style of driving.
00:46:55So that's certainly a very positive approach
00:46:57to a negative aspect.
00:47:00Well, Nelson Piquet has passed Derek Warwick
00:47:03out on the racetrack,
00:47:04and Piquet now moves into fifth spot.
00:47:06Should Ayrton Senna move into the winner's circle here
00:47:10in just a couple of more laps,
00:47:12his name will go down in history
00:47:14with some very famous names.
00:47:16Juan Manuel Fangio won this race here at Spa in 1950,
00:47:2154 and 55.
00:47:22The great Giuseppe Nino Farina in 51.
00:47:25Alberto Ascari won in 52 and 53.
00:47:28More currently, winners included Jack Brabham,
00:47:31Phil Hill, Jim Clark, and Dan Gurney.
00:47:34There are the top six.
00:47:36Senna, Mantle, Prost, Rothberg,
00:47:38and now Nelson Piquet in fifth spot.
00:47:41Warwick back to sixth.
00:47:44This is where the Williams cars normally run into trouble.
00:47:47So the race is not over by any means.
00:47:50Keke Rothberg and Nigel Mantle
00:47:53both going out of the Italian Grand Prix
00:47:56with only a few laps to go.
00:48:00And keeping that car right in the middle
00:48:02of the dry pavement here
00:48:04to make sure that he doesn't get off into the wet
00:48:06and cause a problem for himself
00:48:08as far as control is concerned.
00:48:1041 laps completed.
00:48:12We have two more to go in the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:48:15That has been pretty much a cakewalk
00:48:18for Ayrton Senna from Brazil.
00:48:20By the way, Ayrton is the son
00:48:22of an engineer turned cattle farmer.
00:48:25And as John mentioned,
00:48:28is certainly one of the very brightest lights
00:48:31as far as Formula One racing is concerned
00:48:34in the coming years.
00:48:35And he will be driving for Team Lotus next year
00:48:38driving for Team Lotus next season.
00:48:40This is the season for driver changes
00:48:43but Ayrton Senna has told everyone
00:48:45that he will be with Lotus next year.
00:48:48That puts Elio de Angelis sort of with a question mark.
00:48:51Some people say that he has signed a contract
00:48:53with Brabham to replace Nelson Piquet.
00:48:56That's news to Nelson Piquet this weekend
00:48:59who denies that.
00:49:01But with Niki Lauda going out of Formula One
00:49:04it has created somewhat of a black hole, Bob,
00:49:07in the top spot.
00:49:09Keke Rosberg has been signed to replace
00:49:12Niki Lauda in the McLaren team.
00:49:14That is an awesome combination
00:49:16between Keke and McLaren.
00:49:18But where the other driver changes will come up
00:49:21we still don't know.
00:49:22Very sad that Ferrari has not yet signed
00:49:25Stéphane Johansson
00:49:26who certainly deserves to be rewarded
00:49:28for this year's excellent service.
00:49:31And we would hope that
00:49:33the Enzo Ferrari will see that
00:49:36and go ahead and let Stéphane Johansson
00:49:39who wants to stay with Ferrari
00:49:40continue into next year.
00:49:42Thirteen cars are running on the racetrack.
00:49:44We've given you the top six.
00:49:45Seventh is Thierry Bootsen.
00:49:47Eighth is Gerhard Berger.
00:49:48Ninth is Mark Schur.
00:49:50Tenth is Philippe Streif.
00:49:51Eleventh is the other Liget driver, Jacques Lafitte.
00:49:55And he, as you know, crashed down here
00:49:58just a few laps ago.
00:49:59Also on the racetrack, Martin Brundle
00:50:02and Pierluigi Martini in the minority.
00:50:06Now both Brundle and Martini are shown
00:50:08as five laps down.
00:50:10We are on the final lap of the race.
00:50:13Ayrton Senna has less now than four miles to go
00:50:17and the Belgian Grand Prix will be his for 1985.
00:50:21The advantage is a little over 30 seconds
00:50:23over Nigel Mantle.
00:50:26It's incredible when the cars qualify
00:50:28so close to one another
00:50:30that Ayrton has been able to pull out such a lead.
00:50:32But he's a gentleman who knows
00:50:34how to take advantage of every situation
00:50:36which they have had in this race.
00:50:38It went from extremely wet to semi-wet
00:50:42to dry back to semi-wet.
00:50:44And Ayrton Senna never missed a beat.
00:50:47He wasn't one of the people who spun
00:50:49and collected themselves to continue
00:50:51as did Nelson Piquet and Nigel Mantle.
00:50:54He really has not put a wheel wrong
00:50:57and deserves a victory here in Spa-Francorchamps.
00:51:00And there is Alain Broch
00:51:02who is running in third position at this point.
00:51:06Broch in third will pick up more points
00:51:08toward his world championship
00:51:10as he goes up the hill
00:51:12and now has less than one lap to go.
00:51:14And there is Nelson Piquet
00:51:16who is running in fifth position at this point.
00:51:19That was Mark Schur, was it not?
00:51:20It was.
00:51:21Mark also not knowing what his plans are for next year
00:51:25but all eyes are on Ayrton Senna.
00:51:28This half lap he is certainly wondering
00:51:31if everything will be working.
00:51:32It's not unheard of for a Formula One car
00:51:35to run out of fuel with such a short distance.
00:51:37But with the rain start,
00:51:39remember that they consume a lot less fuel
00:51:42in the beginning of a rain start situation.
00:51:45And no, Thierry Bootsen,
00:51:48that is really ashamed doing so well.
00:51:51Let's hope that Ayrton will get to the flag
00:51:53and will still allow him to maybe collect a point
00:51:56or certainly be well represented here at his Grand Prix.
00:52:00It looks like it happened
00:52:00just in front of our commentating position here.
00:52:04Thierry Bootsen has scored points
00:52:06on two different occasions this year.
00:52:08He gained six points.
00:52:09And there is the checkered flag.
00:52:10Ayrton Senna is the winner.
00:52:13Senna wins the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:52:16And he does not want to go into the old pit row.
00:52:19He is trying to make a security lap
00:52:22or go where Ron Dennis told him to go.
00:52:25Again, he has to be elated.
00:52:27He has not thrown his seatbelts off
00:52:29like he did the first time.
00:52:31But still, he must have been a bit confused
00:52:33where just around the corner from the checkered,
00:52:35there were some people standing there with flags.
00:52:37But Ayrton Senna, a very well-deserved victory.
00:52:40And back at Bob Brokershop where Ayrton Senna
00:52:45is just now pulling into the pit area
00:52:49that will allow him to get out of the car
00:52:51and go up onto the victory platform.
00:52:53He took an extra lap of victory lap.
00:52:55And Senna has his second win of 1985.
00:53:00The reason they tried to stop Senna
00:53:01very quickly after the flag
00:53:03is that these cars have been stopping
00:53:06and not doing the victory lap
00:53:07because the weight of the fuel
00:53:09is calculated into the weight of the car.
00:53:11Alain Prost lost nine points earlier this year
00:53:14because his car was only four kilos underweight.
00:53:18And they figured if he would not have done the victory lap,
00:53:20he would have won the race and kept his points.
00:53:22So, but there you have it.
00:53:24The world championship points of Alain Prost, 59,
00:53:27Michele Alvareto, 53.
00:53:29And quite a ways down, Ayrton Senna,
00:53:31the winner from Brazil, 32.
00:53:33Eliel de Andres now moving down from third to fourth.
00:53:38And there's the championship point.
00:53:44All the way down to 17th place with Rene Arnoux,
00:53:48who's not even in Formula 1 anymore,
00:53:50certainly having an Andrea de Cesaris and Stefan Belov.
00:53:53Those people are still no longer in Formula 1.
00:53:57So, Prost has now a 16-point lead on Michele Alvareto
00:54:01in the battle for the world championship,
00:54:0269 to 53, as we can see Senna taking his victory lap
00:54:07and saluting the crowd.
00:54:08Senna was 32 points,
00:54:09so he still has a lot of ground to make up
00:54:13to overtake Alvareto.
00:54:15Back with more from the Belgian Grand Prix
00:54:17from Bob Prokoschoff right after these messages.
00:54:23Ayrton Senna has won his second Formula 1 race for 1985,
00:54:28and it's Lotus's eighth win here at the Belgian Grand Prix.
00:54:33So, Alain Prost lengthens his lead in the point standing
00:54:36over Michele Alvareto.
00:54:38As far as the Constructors' Championship is concerned,
00:54:40McLaren is in the lead with 83, with Ferrari at 77.
00:54:45An interesting race, John.
00:54:47Extremely interesting, especially with the track conditions.
00:54:49And Ayrton Senna is celebrating an interesting race.
00:54:53They're really having a good shot of it there.
00:54:55The Monier campaign being used traditionally at these events.
00:55:01Ayrton Senna congratulating the people
00:55:04who were following him throughout this entire event.
00:55:08And as you can see, Prost very pleased,
00:55:10even with coming third and the point.
00:55:12We again apologize for the technical difficulties
00:55:15that we encountered while trying to bring you this race.
00:55:18They certainly were nothing that we had control of.
00:55:21We'd like to have brought you all of the excitement of this race,
00:55:25but things just did not work out that way.
00:55:27But Ayrton Senna has won this race,
00:55:31and it was a flag-to-flag performance for Ayrton.
00:55:35Well, the Belgian Grand Prix has been brought to you by
00:55:38BFGoodrich, makers of high-performance PA radials.
00:55:42We make cars perform.
00:55:44The final standings, Ayrton Senna, the winner.
00:55:47Nigel Mantle finishes second.
00:55:49Alain Prost finishes in third position.
00:55:53The fourth-place finisher was K.K. Rosberg.
00:55:56In fifth was Nelson Piquet.
00:55:58The top of the second five, I should say,
00:56:01Derek Warwick was sixth, followed by Gerhard Berger,
00:56:05Marc Sur, Philippe Streif, and Thierry Bootsen.
00:56:09Well, on September 19th, a big night of auto racing activity.
00:56:13We started off at 7.30 in the evening
00:56:15with our weekly auto racing program, Speed Week.
00:56:17Larry Neuber and I with all of the news
00:56:19and the results from the world of auto racing.
00:56:22September 19th at 7.30.
00:56:23Then at 8 o'clock, we'll bring you the Pocono Imsus GT race.
00:56:27And then at 9 o'clock that same night,
00:56:29the Hot 100 USAC Midget Race
00:56:31from the Action Track in Terre Haute, Indiana.
00:56:35We would like to remind you that next Sunday afternoon
00:56:38at 12.30 p.m. Eastern Time,
00:56:40Larry Neuber and I, along with Jack Aroosh,
00:56:42will be in Detroit, actually at Brooklyn, Michigan,
00:56:45at Michigan International Speedway
00:56:47for the Detroit News 200 for IndyCars.
00:56:50That's at 12.30 p.m. Eastern Time next Sunday afternoon.
00:56:55We thank you for joining us for the Belgian Grand Prix
00:56:57for John Bisognato.
00:56:59This is Bob Jenkins.
00:57:00So long, everyone.
00:57:09Where do Formula One race cars come from?
00:57:12Well, many have begun their lives
00:57:13here at Motor Racing Developments.
00:57:15Founded by Jack Brabham and Ron Tarnak late in 1961,
00:57:20they produced the first Brabham F1 car that following season.
00:57:25The team won both the world championships
00:57:27for drivers and constructors twice
00:57:30before Jack retired and sold the factory
00:57:33to Bernie Eccleston in 1971.
00:57:36Since then, two more world driving titles
00:57:39have been secured by the Brabham team with Nelson Piquet.
00:57:43Eccleston readily admits the design
00:57:45and manufacturing capabilities of his factory
00:57:49is one of Brabham's strongest advantages.
00:57:52And chief engineer designer Gordon Murray
00:57:55is responsible for that cornerstone
00:57:57on which much of the team's success is built.
00:58:00The first conception of a simple modification
00:58:03or even the design of a complete new car
00:58:06takes place in the calculating mind of Gordon Murray.
00:58:10After that, it all becomes a finely coordinated effort
00:58:14of every department in the factory
00:58:16to create a 1,200 pound Grand Prix racer
00:58:20that is better than its predecessor.
00:58:22And better in F1 means quicker.
00:58:29You've won the last two out of three Grand Prix.
00:58:32One of the first rules in motor racing is
00:58:34if it works, don't change it.
00:58:37Why do you constantly keep striving ahead
00:58:40when things are going so well for you
00:58:42design-wise at the moment?
00:58:44Well, there's two things you need to be successful.
00:58:47A quick car and a reliable car.
00:58:49And on the reliability side, it's true.
00:58:52You shouldn't change something that works very well.
00:58:55But on the other hand, you've got 10 or 12 teams
00:58:59employing people all the time
00:59:02to make cars go faster and faster.
00:59:04So it's very easy to sit back and say
00:59:06we've got the best car at the moment and get run over.
00:59:10So you do need to continue developing.
00:59:14So if you need to continue to develop,
00:59:15you also need to know how far to go.
00:59:19That's the compromise between reliability and speed.
00:59:22That's purely that simple.
00:59:25So you're constantly breaking new ground
00:59:28every time you put the pencil to the paper then?
00:59:31Yes, we modify the car between every race.
00:59:34But you have to restrain the modifications
00:59:38with reliability in mind.
00:59:41So where do your ideas come from?
00:59:44It must be a culmination of past experience
00:59:47and what you see other people doing
00:59:49and maybe a bright light of your own going on, yes?
00:59:51We all, everybody in the design office
00:59:55sticks his oar in at some time or other.
00:59:58And you draw on past experience a lot.
01:00:00But occasionally somebody will have a new idea,
01:00:04something that nobody's ever done before.
01:00:06But that doesn't happen very often in fact.
01:00:08Not if you're talking about concepts anyway,
01:00:10like ground effect or a brand new type of suspension
01:00:14or something that happens once every two seasons maybe.
01:00:17So you're a believer in developing a known area
01:00:22as far as a design to its maximum?
01:00:25Well, I think the innovation is important too.
01:00:28I mean, some teams don't innovate at all.
01:00:30We tend to bring out new ideas occasionally
01:00:36when they happen.
01:00:37But there's also smaller new ideas.
01:00:40I mean, we're bringing out new ideas all the time in detail.
01:00:45But if you're talking about new ideas at the concept level,
01:00:49then it doesn't happen that often really.
01:00:52Say Paul Roscher rang you up from BMW
01:00:55and he said, we have another 50 horsepower available
01:00:59with no problems relative to reliability.
01:01:02Now, let's say that that had to mean a redesign
01:01:06of the rear suspension so you could put the power
01:01:08to the ground or something like that.
01:01:10Is that a group activity of the people
01:01:13here in the design department?
01:01:14Definitely, yeah.
01:01:15Although one person might get the responsibility
01:01:17for that rear suspension redesign.
01:01:20But that's something that you would instigate immediately,
01:01:22but probably not run it until it was fairly well tested.
01:01:27So what happens after you've drawn it,
01:01:30you've calculated it as near as possible
01:01:33to perfection within the design studio?
01:01:36What happens once your piece of paper,
01:01:38your thought on paper leaves this room?
01:01:41Well, once it's been thought of, designed and detailed,
01:01:45it has to be very accurately drawn and detailed.
01:01:48It leaves this room and gets turned over
01:01:51to the production department.
01:01:52And from there onwards, it's out of our hands, really.
01:01:57Herbie Blash, manager of the Parmalat Brabham team.
01:02:00We've just left the design studio.
01:02:02What happens to a detailed piece of paper
01:02:05once it gets to your hands?
01:02:07Well, the first thing that happens
01:02:09after the initial drawing, if we're
01:02:11talking about a car being built for the first time,
01:02:13the actual birth of a car, first of all,
01:02:16the drawings of the basic body shape
01:02:19would go to the pattern shop.
01:02:21And from the pattern shop, we would
01:02:22make a wind tunnel model, which is out of wood.
01:02:26And from there, a full-scale drawing
01:02:30would then appear from the drawing office
01:02:32after the results of the wind tunnel.
01:02:34And a wooden mock-up of the car would be made.
01:02:38So what happens after the pattern shop?
01:02:41Well, from the pattern shop, if we're
01:02:43going to be talking about the shape of the car to start with,
01:02:47that then goes into the fiberglass shop,
01:02:50where a mold is made for the actual full-size fiberglass
01:02:55bodywork or carbon fiber bodywork.
01:02:58And also the same for the interior of the car,
01:03:00which is made in carbon fiber.
01:03:03We actually have two separate shops.
01:03:05One shop to look just after glass fiber,
01:03:08and one to look after carbon fiber.
01:03:12So that's the basic car that you actually see on the track.
01:03:17Now, as you know, there's a lot more underneath the car.
01:03:20Then just pieces of carbon fiber.
01:03:23All the metal bits, suspension, and chassis, and so forth.
01:03:28Yes, you're talking of around about 4,000 to 5,000
01:03:31detailed pieces.
01:03:34So where do they pass through the same system?
01:03:38In another department, I suppose.
01:03:39Well, yes.
01:03:40Obviously, everything starts from the drawing office.
01:03:42That is the hub.
01:03:44Now, if we're talking about rear suspension, for example,
01:03:49that will be made, first of all, in the machine shop.
01:03:52Because basically, all of the suspension now is machined.
01:03:56And then you have bearings, joints, et cetera,
01:04:01to go into the wishbone.
01:04:03Again, they are drawn.
01:04:04One or two things come from an outside supplier.
01:04:07For example, some of the bearings,
01:04:10which we don't make here ourselves.
01:04:12But bushes, et cetera, would go into them.
01:04:14That's made in another part of the machine shop.
01:04:17So you earlier mentioned some 4,000 bits.
01:04:20Now, you said to me earlier that maybe 90% of the car
01:04:24is made here within these walls.
01:04:26Is that correct?
01:04:27Yes.
01:04:28Yes, that is correct.
01:04:29And where do they all meet up?
01:04:31OK, we have the fiberglass coming from one direction,
01:04:34the carbon fiber from another direction,
01:04:35and the metal from a third direction.
01:04:37They all have to come together in one other department.
01:04:41Well, yes.
01:04:42The first car that's built is built in,
01:04:44we have one special rather secret workshop.
01:04:48That's the one we weren't,
01:04:49we don't have any pictures of that one, that's true.
01:04:51No, you won't be allowed in there.
01:04:53That's the first time that all the bits and pieces
01:04:56come together to actually form the car.
01:04:59Then, after the first car is being made,
01:05:02then the rest of the cars are actually assembled
01:05:05in the racing shop.
01:05:07Because that's fairly straightforward,
01:05:08everything should fit together.
01:05:10And that's the way that operates.
01:05:13So after the secret development shop
01:05:17and probably track testing,
01:05:20you decide the final, final design
01:05:22and it's actually assembled in the race shop?
01:05:24Correct, yes.
01:05:26And is that what's rolled out the door,
01:05:27the final product?
01:05:28What's rolled out, that's it.
01:05:30That's what you see on the track.
01:05:32Herbie, do you ever feel that your factory
01:05:35is in, as far as a facility,
01:05:37is in direct competition with other factories
01:05:39of other teams?
01:05:40I mean, as far as your capabilities to produce?
01:05:44Quality bits and pieces and designs?
01:05:47I think we're the best team.
01:05:51We can't compare ourselves with Ferrari
01:05:54because we don't make our own engine.
01:05:56But compared with all the other British manufacturers
01:05:59and the French,
01:06:01I think we have better facilities than any of them.
01:06:04Well, Brands Hatch here is the place
01:06:06where all that effort in the design shop
01:06:08and the factory come together.
01:06:10And Bernie Eccleston, the director of
01:06:12Parmalat Team Brabham,
01:06:14is the gentleman who owns that fine facility
01:06:17and also spends a lot of time in managing it.
01:06:20Bernie, we've had a very interesting time
01:06:22at your factory and so forth.
01:06:24One thing that I'd like you to shed some light on
01:06:27is that you must keep the factory up to date
01:06:30as far as equipment and facility
01:06:34to remain competitive with the other teams.
01:06:36This must be a great capital investment
01:06:38from time to time.
01:06:39Well, it's very small
01:06:40compared to what it costs to run a team.
01:06:43You buy a machine for, I don't know,
01:06:45200,000 pounds.
01:06:46I mean, it costs us about...
01:06:49Well, it costs more than that.
01:06:50It costs us more than $300,000
01:06:52for each race that we enter.
01:06:55So it's a small part of our total expenditure.
01:06:58Well, when you see a team like Williams
01:07:00who have their own wind tunnel,
01:07:02do you feel that that gives them an edge
01:07:04on the circuit over you
01:07:06where they can just go next door
01:07:07and try and find out the best way
01:07:10to design a particular piece?
01:07:12Obviously, anything you can use is an advantage.
01:07:15You go and look at the Ferrari factory,
01:07:17you see what they have,
01:07:18the facilities they have.
01:07:19It's incredible.
01:07:21Bernie, the rules in Formula 1 now
01:07:23call for every team making their own car.
01:07:27This is, of course, a great financial burden
01:07:29for some of the smaller teams.
01:07:30Do you think it would improve
01:07:31the competitiveness of Formula 1
01:07:33if people could purchase Brabhams,
01:07:35could purchase McLarens
01:07:36and go racing with them?
01:07:38What do you mean?
01:07:38It's not competitive, Formula 1?
01:07:40Oh, it's very competitive.
01:07:41You and I know that.
01:07:42But down the grid,
01:07:43people, instead of developing cars,
01:07:45spending money on developing cars,
01:07:47they could spend money on purchasing them
01:07:49and going racing and maintaining them.
01:07:51That's not the way we want to see Formula 1.
01:07:54What's the reason behind that, Bernie?
01:07:56You want constructors.
01:07:57Because there's always going to be
01:07:59at one stage a car that's particularly good
01:08:01and you're going to find that
01:08:02the whole field will be made up of that car.
01:08:05It's not what we want to do.
01:08:07Also a very valuable thing, Bernie, is your time.
01:08:09The day that I was in the factory,
01:08:11you had the representative from Brazil there,
01:08:13you had phone calls from all over the world.
01:08:15How do you find time to still be an influence,
01:08:19which you very much are, I witnessed that,
01:08:22on Parmalat Team Brabham?
01:08:24Well, it's just a case of trying to fit things in,
01:08:27that's all.
01:08:28We manage somehow.
01:08:29You just keep working until it's done?
01:08:31Yeah, that's right.
01:08:32Bernie, we want to thank you
01:08:33for letting us in your factory.
01:08:34I know that's a very special thing
01:08:36and everyone in the States
01:08:38is going to be extremely pleased to see it.
01:08:40Now, I want to thank you
01:08:41and, you know, we don't allow these sort of things
01:08:43to go on too much.
01:08:44Something for ESPN.
01:08:45They do a lot for us,
01:08:46trying to give something to them and the viewers.
01:08:48Best of luck here.