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00:00Good morning, good morning, ladies and gentlemen, good morning, Alberto, here again, starting the week with another delivery of this, it is a TV diary, one plus one, on the weekend, it was a weekend of rains, but also of blood, it was a tragedy, a violent event in Dajabón, the rains, as they caused floods in several localities, a lot of water, communities were left uninformed,
00:30the authorities were acting, the positive of the rain is that they have significantly raised the reservoirs of at least four of the country's main dams, and this is good because it allows us to have water for agriculture, human consumption and also for the generation of energy for a few months,
00:54Meteorology says that it will continue to rain, especially in the afternoon of today, but there is a significant reduction of the rains, on Friday, on Friday, water fell, two pesos and a half, not two pesos, two pesos and a half, and the same thing happened on Saturday, it continued to rain, and until yesterday Sunday, in many places it was raining a lot.
01:15The rains remind us, Alberto, unfortunately, also the deficiencies that we have, and the problems, especially in terms of filters, the lack of orientation and information, despite the efforts that the authorities have made, the COE continues to do an important job, in terms of preventive measures, especially doing ...
01:32The COE is reactive.
01:35Yes, but making the alerts, those observations that were previously made that they did not arrive on time, they are arriving on time, they are being warned so that they can be prevented, and even so, there is still a limited culture of people to seek and understand this environmental impact.
01:53But at least in the capital, there were few environmental problems.
02:00Many activities were canceled.
02:03A child was reported drowning in La Manguana.
02:07Yes.
02:08This is the most regrettable tragedy of the process.
02:12And for the rest, people took shelter a lot, and you can see the results.
02:20There are still rains, we repeat, and the earth is wet, so you have to be very careful, especially people who live near rivers and canyons of an aquifer.
02:31That is the situation.
02:34And we said that on the weekend there was also bloodshed, because in Dajabón two armed groups faced each other, of those who traffick with drugs.
02:45It seems that we know Dajabón better because of the bilateral market and because of the Haitian situation.
02:55Basically.
02:57There is an important port, a terrestrial port, right?
03:00To cross from here to there and from there to here, to the Dominican Republic, the Republic of Haiti.
03:06But what happened was a confrontation, and there were five dead and two wounded.
03:16The police identified the main participants in the violence, and they are after them.
03:32And there were several days, several operations during the weekend.
03:38It is an area where there are so many military, so much military presence of the army, right?
03:46In all its branches.
03:48And one is surprised that drug trafficking continues at this magnitude.
03:54And it shows precisely the level of operativity that these criminal groups have in communities like Dajabón.
04:06To the extent that in a very short time a lamentable catastrophe could have occurred.
04:12Five lives, we reiterate, and two injured people.
04:15With a diagnosis, luckily, not serious.
04:18Neither of the two cases.
04:20With which life has at least so far been assured.
04:23Look, today there is information that deserves to be commented on.
04:28Because we have been very attentive to what happens with the works, the great works.
04:32That the government builds, both in the capital and in the interior of the country.
04:36And one of them is the extension of the subway from Kilometro Nuevo to Los Alcázares.
04:43The authorities reported that this subway is almost finished.
04:49Final stage.
04:50It is in the final stage.
04:52I know them because I spend a lot there.
04:56A lot.
04:57And the truth is that it is in the final stage, but it has been a long time.
05:02What one draws attention to is the slowness with which it is being worked.
05:09The construction rate has significantly dropped.
05:12The marginal, because it is going to be a marginal, an express.
05:15Very necessary.
05:17So that the motorists, the vehicles that go from Los Alcarrizos,
05:22or from the neighboring neighborhoods, those that are between Los Alcarrizos and Kilometro Nuevo,
05:26from the Duarte highway, can advance and avoid congestion on the highway.
05:32But at the same time, if people are going to travel above,
05:37it is assumed that there will be a lower flow of public vehicles.
05:42It will decrease.
05:44And this will help traffic on the Duarte highway.
05:48For now, that is a chaos.
05:51At this time, the one who crosses there has serious difficulties to get to his work.
05:56The same happens when returning.
06:00It gets congested, but a lot, a lot.
06:03The authorities say that they are working on details.
06:07One of them has to do with the electric issue.
06:11And they tell me that they are still changing all the...
06:15They had to do it, right?
06:17Change the electrical networks from where they were...
06:24Placed previously.
06:27With the new route.
06:29And that on top of the physical structure that is already ready,
06:37they are now conditioning it and advancing it
06:41so that the rails and wagons can enter into operation as soon as possible.
06:49We would be talking about the fact that before the end of the year that work would be inaugurated.
06:53And that would be a great relief for people.
06:55And a great relief also for the government.
06:58We hope that it will happen with the Duarte highway, that it will advance more.
07:03That is not going to end this year.
07:05And with other big works.
07:08In Santiago...
07:10The Monoriel.
07:12The Monoriel.
07:14In the south, the Vaní Circumvalation.
07:20The biggest work in that area.
07:24About the dam in Montegrande.
07:29It is little known.
07:30Unless what the experts say.
07:33Because the dam was inaugurated.
07:36The dam was inaugurated.
07:38And we understand that it is filling up.
07:40It takes time to do it.
07:43But the channels to distribute the water and the aqueducts connected are not there.
07:50There is also a conflict with the farmers who were affected.
07:54And who are claiming land to cultivate.
07:57And to benefit from the work.
08:00But those big works, the Duarte highway.
08:04The Vaní Circumvalation.
08:08The San Francisco Macorís Circumvalation.
08:10The Cerro Carrizo Circumvalation also.
08:12Which is totally paralyzed.
08:14That work, one expects that a little money appears.
08:18It must be said that several economists have established
08:22that there is a decline.
08:26They are very concerned about a sharp decline in public investment.
08:31To the point that it is being said that it barely reaches 2% of the gross domestic product.
08:37And that this means the lowest investment in 60 years.
08:42By the state.
08:44The state dynamizes the economy a lot.
08:47As the state invests, it dynamizes the economy.
08:50And it is not only because people work there.
08:54But the trade around a work.
08:57There are people who sell food, who sell clothes, who sell...
09:01The amount of direct labor is huge.
09:04Yes.
09:053x1 is the formula that you usually use.
09:08Yes.
09:09There is positive information that the Central Bank gave this week.
09:16It has to do with a change in labor force.
09:24And in the way that labor force is contracted.
09:28It has lowered a little the informality of employment.
09:31Important.
09:33And it has increased formality.
09:35This is interesting because the formal worker, although he earns very little,
09:40because here you pay little, has access to three insurances.
09:46Health insurance, labor insurance, and pension insurance.
09:51Yes.
09:52And this gives him a different status, right?
09:56The population is important.
09:58In addition, you are telling us that 5.5 million people,
10:04half of the Dominican population, depend on a job.
10:08They are incorporated in the labor force.
10:10They depend on a fixed job.
10:12The rest of the population, a fairly high percentage,
10:20almost 90%, is looked for with informal work.
10:26The day-to-day workers.
10:28And sometimes they are not workers, right?
10:30There are people who have a fixed job.
10:32But they don't have it formalized.
10:33No, because they can't.
10:35The tax burden is high in the country.
10:38And people call that self-employment.
10:41Self-employed.
10:43In Spain we call them self-employed.
10:46People do their own business and live off that.
10:49With the hope that that business will grow.
10:52Someday.
10:53Most die in the movies, they don't grow.
10:55But it allows them to survive.
10:57Yes, just like the entrepreneurs who have a good time.
10:59Ah, that's the same.
11:00They call it entrepreneurship.
11:02All that is modernism, right?
11:06When they don't find a formal job, they look for it.
11:12Here there is a phenomenon, we call it the riffraff.
11:15It's still like that.
11:17Especially women.
11:19And the aguantalistas.
11:21Ah, but it's a way of making money.
11:24And that's what there is.
11:26But it's good news that they are decreasing
11:28the informality in work.
11:32Which is not the same as in economy.
11:35In work.
11:36As the central bank has said.
11:40Before we go to the break to return with the interview in the foreground.
11:46We must highlight the importance of today's meeting between Putin and Donald Trump.
11:54The president of Russia and that of the United States.
11:57You are going to discuss the issue of putting an end to the war.
11:59To Ukraine.
12:00To Ukraine.
12:01To Zelensky, who is the president of Ukraine.
12:04Trump said he was going to the Marines.
12:07But there was such a strong avalanche of resistance to that.
12:11Especially from Europe.
12:12Europe.
12:13And from the president of Ukraine himself.
12:19That Trump had to change his policy.
12:23It went down a little.
12:25But now, you know that there was, last week,
12:29a face-to-face meeting of delegations from Ukraine and Russia.
12:35And the only group that arrived was to release 1,000 prisoners each.
12:39Prisoners in a cage.
12:43But it didn't stop.
12:44But the war continued and there was no truce.
12:46So now Trump, well, he had already said that without him,
12:50the problem would not be solved.
12:53And there are many expectations.
12:55Because Trump has a very difficult situation within the United States.
12:58Things are starting to get complicated.
13:00And there are two wars that he promised to stop.
13:05And neither of them has stopped.
13:07But now he has an opportunity.
13:09The one in Ukraine and also the one in the Gaza Strip and the invasion.
13:14There are two invasions.
13:15There are two invasions, exactly.
13:17If he achieves that, obviously he will raise the points.
13:22In the whole world.
13:23Not only in the United States, but in the whole world.
13:25Having fulfilled his campaign promises.
13:27But also, really, in real terms, he would also give a break to two war conflicts
13:33that are costing the lives of thousands and thousands of people every day.
13:36And they are repudiated by most of the citizens of the world.
13:39War, war, war is not the solution.
13:42War is bloodshed.
13:45War is imposition.
13:47Trump says that he also announced the victory of avoiding the war between India and Pakistan.
13:57India said no.
13:59But they did something.
14:01Because they didn't invent it, right?
14:03We are seeing chips.
14:04In the specific case of this meeting that would take place today,
14:08prior to this meeting, in fact, governments such as those of Italy,
14:13such as those of the United Kingdom and France,
14:15which have led that push a little,
14:17are like the small commission of the European Union that is battling in this regard.
14:21They made calls, assuring the issues and the agreements, and in what terms it would be carried out.
14:26They have also raised, and there are formal press releases on that,
14:30which suggest that after the conversation between Putin and Donald Trump,
14:34this small committee will be sectioned again, precisely seeing the impact it could have.
14:39And how these governments of the European Union would also join whatever comes out of that process.
14:43They don't want that.
14:45They don't want that negotiation.
14:47Because, obviously, he has admitted a defeat.
14:50Trump is going to say, look, this war is lost.
14:53And in bad terms.
14:55Now, he has given a piece of information, which I hear for the first time in the mouth of the President of the United States.
15:02He says that, weekly, 5,000 people are joining, 5,000 soldiers, side by side.
15:09I guess most of them are Ukrainians.
15:11Ukrainians.
15:12If that's the case, that's a lot of people.
15:14Yes.
15:15That's a lot of blood shed.
15:16And he is going to find, on the one hand, universal support, because the war is over.
15:21But Europe knows that Russia is going to come out stronger from that war, and that they are going to harm it.
15:27Indeed.
15:28Therefore, they don't want it to be like that, for the war to end.
15:31They don't want it to be in those terms.
15:32But also, they are ruining it.
15:34That small committee, as you say, is a last-minute effort of the European Union
15:39to prevent it from coming out of there.
15:42It's different.
15:43Well, Stalin, we have to take a break.
15:46Let's take a break.
15:47We have to take a break, because we have here with us Senator Gustavo Lara,
15:53who is the senator of the province of San Cristóbal.
15:59Yes.
16:00So, with him, we are going to talk about the issue of the province and the issue of the Congress.
16:05That's right. Stay with us and remember that you can access all the information that is produced here at Uno Más Uno
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16:17Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for tuning in.
16:20Here we are again with you to talk with the senator of the province of San Cristóbal.
16:27Good morning.
16:28The second youngest senator in the country.
16:31That's right.
16:32Mr. Gustavo.
16:33That's right. Good morning, Mr. Alberto. Thank you for the invitation.
16:37It's a privilege to speak to the Dominican people through your cameras.
16:41How has the rain affected San Cristóbal?
16:44Well, the truth is that there are always signs of weakness in this process of rain.
16:51It rained less than we expected due to the red alert that had been established.
16:56And, well, yesterday, practically everything was back to normal.
17:01Yes, precautions were taken, but there are obviously many opportunities in the flood drainage.
17:10Not only in San Cristóbal, but throughout the country.
17:12It's one of our greatest weaknesses.
17:14What happened to the girl?
17:15Yes, the truth is that it's a very unfortunate issue.
17:17We thank God. I think it's a very personal opinion.
17:21I say that I highlight three fundamental elements of this fact.
17:26First, we thank God because the girl was able to be saved.
17:31Because those young people, God put in their hearts to go and rescue them
17:37in conditions that no one could have asked them to do, if it weren't for their own decision.
17:42Because it was without any type of security or mechanism to be able to rescue them
17:46in case they were also victims.
17:48Nor technical capacity.
17:49Nor technical capacity. But also many opportunities for improvement.
17:52We are going to make a call this week to all the rescue organizations.
17:56There are measures that are going to be taken, but also to evaluate,
17:59because the truth is that what happened cannot happen again.
18:03But it also shows that solidarity of human beings.
18:07One hundred percent. One hundred percent.
18:09And I want to tell you something.
18:11I spoke with my father about this issue.
18:13My father with a great experience in the Red Cross.
18:18And he put me in evidence that this fact put in the manifesto
18:23the need to work with communities in the creation of capacity
18:27for emergencies and relief.
18:29Because the truth is that when the community is empowered,
18:32is prepared, knows what it has to do in the face of any eventuality,
18:36emergency that could present itself as a natural disaster,
18:4050% of the problem has already been solved.
18:44Because what comes to any relief organization, the community can intervene.
18:48And I think that's why I say that I think there are many opportunities for improvement.
18:52We are going to work with them.
18:54And well, just to thank that the girl, thank God, is safe.
18:57We have been in follow-up with her.
18:59We met with the young people who also rescued her.
19:02With them, I really, personally, what I would like is that we could work
19:07in a long-term insertion plan, not just the 15 minutes of fame,
19:17and then forget about it, but see how this heroic act
19:21can represent an opportunity for them.
19:25San Cristóbal, Senator, is a province with very special characteristics.
19:32It is very close to the capital.
19:34Some say it is the backyard of the capital.
19:36And there are many people who work here in Santo Domingo
19:40and who live in San Cristóbal.
19:42But San Cristóbal is also one of the most rural provinces
19:45that remain in the Dominican Republic.
19:48How is that handled in terms of planning, in terms of development,
19:52and attention to the needs of the people?
19:56Well, the truth is that, as you just said, San Cristóbal is a very complex province.
20:01Territorial, populationally speaking.
20:05And well, part of what we have been working on, precisely,
20:10is to visualize each territory individually and together,
20:17in that assessment, to have a provincial plan.
20:20Why? Because it was almost always the case
20:24that in the legislative or government management,
20:29most of the vision of development was focused
20:32on the center of San Cristóbal as a leading municipality.
20:35However, we have been evaluating each territory individually
20:40to create a provincial plan.
20:44And in fact, there are many projects.
20:46I think that, for the first time, and I can say this with all responsibility,
20:50each municipality is developing investment projects
20:53that promote development, regardless of what happens
20:56in the leading municipality as the capital of the province.
21:00We have a goal.
21:03Many things are missing in San Cristóbal.
21:06It has an accumulated social debt of more than 30 years.
21:10For a long time, it did not exist on the investment map.
21:14However, we have been concentrating,
21:16together with the President, on not doing more
21:19than what is already being developed.
21:21Our goal, in the next three years,
21:23is that the President can fulfill and conclude
21:26the investment projects he is developing.
21:28And what are those projects?
21:30Well, step by step, in the leading municipality,
21:32the circumvalation of San Cristóbal is being worked on right now,
21:35which will release all the traffic from the center of the municipality,
21:39taking it out on November 6 and on the Sánchez Highway,
21:42through Madre Vieja Sur, an area that has been growing
21:46populationally, the completion of the municipal parking lot.
21:49And that avenue is being built?
21:51It is being developed, yes.
21:53The first stage, which is the construction of a bridge
21:56that connects the area of Lavapiés with Madre Vieja,
21:58is being developed.
22:00And in the next few days, the work will begin,
22:02because there is a preliminary design work
22:05of all those arteries that suffered changes
22:08due to some eventualities that were presented.
22:11And on Wednesday, we have a visit,
22:14a tour with the contractors, who already have the money in hand,
22:19to see where the final stretch will be.
22:26I mentioned the municipal parking lot.
22:28If I go, for example, to the community of Jaina,
22:31we have the recreational park that the Ministry of Tourism is building.
22:36Jaina is a municipality with a higher population density.
22:40However, it does not have recreational areas.
22:42And the President and I are focusing on creating those opportunities.
22:46That recreational park is being developed.
22:48Jaina's mall is being developed, which is also well advanced.
22:52At this moment, the aqueduct of Jaina is being built,
22:56in the second stage, which is the part of the distribution network.
23:01If we go to Villa Altagracia, we have in Villa Altagracia
23:04the issue of the aqueduct, which is a priority,
23:06and it has to be concluded with God first.
23:08The bridge that connects...
23:10There are eight dates to inaugurate it.
23:13We hope it will be the last.
23:15We recently spoke with the director, Wellington Arnaud.
23:19I personally visited recently, and the truth is that it is very advanced.
23:24There are, obviously, details.
23:26We hope that the rainy season now allows us to be able to conclude.
23:29And our goal is that later, on November 6,
23:32the President can be inaugurating that aqueduct.
23:35There is also a project...
23:37According to Wellington, and he said it here not long ago,
23:43in two months it will be ready.
23:45I hope one day that yes.
23:47I am setting a goal.
23:49I am setting a maximum goal.
23:51In fact, with the President, the commitment is that it will take longer.
23:54I hope it will be before, and I think it will be like that.
23:57On November 6, Villa Altagracia can have water.
24:00I am convinced that it will be like that.
24:02But I always try to put in our case, in our planning,
24:06dates set so that we do not continue to give dates where we are wrong.
24:10And there is a project that will be of great impact for Villa Altagracia,
24:14which is already in the final stage of design,
24:17which is the project of the educational city.
24:20That project, in fact, will be developed by the Ministry of Education.
24:24It will be housed in the old paper factory,
24:27installations of the UAS, of ITLA, of Infotep.
24:30It will have a CITE center of attention to childhood with special conditions.
24:36And it will somehow enrich the ability to form that human capital,
24:42meaning that it requires the area that, in many occasions,
24:45Villa Altagracia has focused on the professional training of its young people,
24:49but not necessarily in the areas where it has labor demand in the environment.
24:53And the idea is to give it a turn.
24:55It also has to come to Santo Domingo to study.
24:57Of course.
24:59This work has more than two years in the project.
25:04What happens is that there was a problem.
25:06Which was the structural.
25:08The structural.
25:09They already told me that it is already solved.
25:11It is already solved.
25:12Onesbie gave the favorable report.
25:14You can work with that same structure.
25:16With half the structure, because there is a part that has to be demolished.
25:19There is a part that will have to be demolished.
25:21But to make that structural lift, which was the problem that there was,
25:24there was a problem of bats, if bats.
25:27And that intervention obviously complicated the lifting of that structural lift.
25:33But you have already done the study, made the recommendations.
25:36Yes.
25:37Are the funds to start?
25:38Correct.
25:39From the Ministry of Education.
25:40And it is as a priority.
25:42And we have been in permanent work with them.
25:44If we go to the Canbita area, in Canbita they are developing a development project,
25:50which is the road, the expansion of the road from Canbita to Los Cacaos,
25:55as a way to enhance ecotourism that has been developing in the area,
26:00facilitate the access of local and foreign tourists to that part of there.
26:05And there is a very special issue that is aligned with the vision of developing ecotourism
26:11in a province like San Cristóbal, where we have prioritized a route that includes,
26:16at this time, the ingenious Boca de Nigua and the caves of the Pomier,
26:22as an anthropological reserve of the Caribbean and the Antilles.
26:27Together with the Ministry of Culture, the Ministry of the Environment,
26:31the Ministry of Tourism, a plan is being developed.
26:34There is a pre-sewerage work, because both the ingenious Boca de Nigua
26:42and the caves of the Pomier have all the conditions and characteristics
26:45so that we can have an effective nomination before UNESCO
26:50and can be declared as a natural heritage or landscape of humanity.
26:54So there are a number of projects that have been working,
26:58to mention them quickly, that will somehow allow to enhance all that capital.
27:03There is a German route of the people who live between San Cristóbal and Villa Altagracia,
27:10I mean the municipal districts of La Cuchilla, Medina,
27:15and part of the city itself, Villa Altagracia.
27:19And it is the construction of the Madrigal Bridge.
27:23Madrigal is where San Cristóbal and Villa Altagracia meet.
27:28That's right.
27:29And they have been asking for that bridge for decades.
27:32At the end of last year, a design was approved,
27:36it was ready, it was approved. What about that?
27:39We recently met with the Minister of Public Works, Mr. Eduardo Estrella.
27:44I hope that in the next few weeks the beginning of that project can be announced.
27:51The design part has already been concluded.
27:54It was another issue, obviously, of the process of adjudication of the contractor
27:59so that he can start the project.
28:02And that is a priority. And Cataray and the bridges that communicate different communities are a priority.
28:08You told me that you were going to Villa Altagracia soon.
28:11God willing, on Thursday.
28:13But you are going to go through the Cataray Bridge.
28:15We are going to go through there.
28:16There maybe there is no need for a bridge.
28:19It is a maintenance.
28:21To the structure.
28:22To the structure.
28:23The structure is fine, it is a dam.
28:25The issue is that the river has made another additional channel,
28:30and it is not covered, it is not maintained.
28:32So every time it rains...
28:34Yes, the problem is, Mr. Alberto, you know the level at which that dam bridge is.
28:39When there are growths of the river, the areas are practically uncommunicated,
28:45with the part of the highway, the north part.
28:49It is an issue that has been evaluated.
28:52Apparently, it is the technical recommendation to improve
28:56and guarantee the permanent access of those communities.
28:59Although, on many occasions, they have the alternative of going by the road to Todamas,
29:04but it is an extension of the trip.
29:06No, no, no, that would be impossible.
29:08Yes.
29:09But the ones over there are not the ones that go to Todamas.
29:11No, no, in case...
29:12In Badén, yes.
29:13When they are uncommunicated.
29:15Yes.
29:16And the issue of tolls in Villa Altagracia, which we have recently seen.
29:20Yes.
29:21Some demands for the issue of the implementation of the double payment,
29:25in addition to the fact that it had just increased from 60 to 100.
29:29Yes. Look, we have been working on that issue.
29:32And just last week, and this week we are going to have a meeting.
29:36We talked a lot with Hostos, with Milton Morrison and Correa, director of ADES,
29:43which are somehow the entities with which we are building the solution.
29:49I say build the solution because that was not something that was in a folder,
29:55but that it had to be built.
29:58The truth is, and I have to be honest,
30:02that was a decision that took us all by surprise.
30:07It was not a decision that was previously socialized,
30:11that should have been made.
30:13Perhaps it was not understood at the time,
30:16and we have claimed it in the different scenarios,
30:19the reality of Villa Altagracia as such,
30:21and it was simply contemplated as a toll for the northern region.
30:25And although it is true that it is necessary to somehow be able to generate the resources
30:32that lead to the investments that are being made on the Duarte highway
30:36and in some sections in a special way,
30:39but the direct impact in Villa Altagracia is undeniable.
30:4260-70% of the population of Villa Altagracia has to travel daily to Santo Domingo,
30:48to the capital, to study, to work,
30:51to be able to have the inputs of the businesses that are in Villa Altagracia.
30:56There is a permanent dynamic, very similar to what happens in Jaina and the National District.
31:02So, given that reality, it was unthinkable that a measure like that would go unnoticed.
31:09It has a direct impact on the families.
31:12And it also creates a tax on a community that is unique.
31:19Why? Because if you go to La Romana, to the east, you get to La Romana and pay a single ticket.
31:26If you go to the south, you get to Azua, and you even have alternatives.
31:32If you don't want to pay, you go inside.
31:35But in Villa Altagracia there are no alternatives.
31:37There are no alternatives.
31:39That's right. So, when I talk about construction,
31:42what we are seeing is going to be in stages.
31:45A first stage is to ensure that public transportation
31:50does not transmit that toll to the population.
31:55Yes, they are talking about 25%.
31:57Of course. So, a direct subsidy plan is being built
32:01for both car and bus drivers,
32:05as well as for the students of Villa Altagracia,
32:09so that it does not have an impact on the increase in the cost of the ticket,
32:13which is more than 60%.
32:15And those who have a vehicle and travel every day.
32:17So, that's another issue we are working on.
32:19We don't want to mix it up, Mr. Adalberto, because they are completely different solutions.
32:23But we are also working on the construction of that solution.
32:29Obviously, I understand that many times we can fall into despair,
32:35because we are already feeling the impact of that increase.
32:39And it was already seen in the strike they did last Monday.
32:44That's right.
32:46The backing of that strike was huge.
32:49And it surprised me. Well, I had warned him that it could happen.
32:53I knew him a little.
32:54It surprised me how the neighborhoods took to the streets
33:01and also lost their sanity, in many cases.
33:04Yes.
33:05Which means that people feel that demand.
33:08It is felt, and we cannot deny it.
33:10And in my case, as a senator of the province,
33:12I have been very active, proactive, in the search for the construction of a solution.
33:18And God willing, we will have it.
33:19We have to take a break. With your permission, Gustavo.
33:21Yes.
33:22To fulfill our commercial commitments.
33:24And we will be back to continue this interesting conversation.
33:29Thank you for tuning in with UNOS Más UNO.
33:32If you connect at this time, we will continue this conversation
33:35with the senator of San Cristóbal, Gustavo Lara.
33:38We saw a little in the first part of the interview, Gustavo,
33:43that balance to those projects that are underway
33:47and that, as you have raised, in the next three years
33:50that are left to the government of Luis Abinader,
33:52you intend to push.
33:54Yes.
33:55But there are some other elements left.
33:57We will perhaps enter a little in the legislative plane.
33:59How is the legislative priority in favor of the municipalities
34:03and the municipalities of the province?
34:05Well, the truth is that we have a fairly ambitious agenda
34:10in terms of legislative projects that have,
34:13or that are born from a local need in the province of San Cristóbal,
34:17but that somehow has a general impact throughout the country.
34:22It is already in a stage of approval in the commission
34:26the bill that seeks to generate and create
34:29the passants in all professional areas
34:32and techniques of our country.
34:34A bill that recognizes first that the state has so far
34:38assumed its responsibility of the creation of that first opportunity
34:43of experience, of employment,
34:45of medical professionals,
34:47to which it guarantees a remuneration for a year
34:50once they complete their studies.
34:52However, in no other technical area,
34:55nor professional, nor journalism, nor accounting,
34:58nor business administration, nor engineering,
35:01they have that possibility.
35:03And we know, and we know, obviously,
35:06the effort and sacrifice that many young Dominicans
35:10undergo to graduate for four, five, six years
35:13in the universities and technological institutes,
35:16and when they finish, they go out to the labor market
35:19and the first block they find is non-experience.
35:22We have been contemplating in this project
35:25that the state assumes, within that responsibility,
35:29the creation of places for passants
35:32with 5% of the employment places that it has in general,
35:36of about 600,000 places that it has in the entire state structure.
35:40And those will be passants from six months to a year,
35:43depending on the availability and the demand,
35:47and that they have a remuneration of a minimum salary,
35:50obviously, considering the budgets of each institution.
35:53So far, I think it will have a favorable report,
35:58God willing, in the commission in the next few days,
36:00and then it will be submitted for approval.
36:03The President himself has asked us about the project,
36:05he has shown interest.
36:07Many sectors, in principle,
36:09we are establishing it for the public sector,
36:12but areas of the private sector have been contacting us,
36:16interested in knowing about the project,
36:18and I think that in some way they could also be incorporated.
36:21But as a legal project, we understand that the most viable way
36:24now is to frame it in the state.
36:27But the minimum salary for a career
36:30may not be so attractive.
36:32Well, what happens is that it is a passant.
36:34In the end, we put the minimum salary as a remuneration
36:38to cover travel expenses, diet,
36:42but to think of a greater remuneration,
36:45perhaps the application of the project could be unfeasible,
36:48and what we want is above all...
36:49I mean, for example, an engineer.
36:51Yes.
36:52A newly graduated who is going to be a passant.
36:55That is not attractive, the minimum salary.
36:58It is because the engineer's interest is to have the experience,
37:02and then be able to go to the labor market.
37:04So, what happens with this, Mr. Alberto?
37:07This has a double connotation.
37:10First, it will also create the possibility of a talent bank
37:13for you to identify the talent that is often hidden,
37:16but it also allows the young person, by graduating,
37:19to identify the areas in which he wants to specialize,
37:22based on that experience.
37:24Because many times, he concludes his careers
37:26by not finding a job,
37:28he gets into a project, obviously,
37:30to create a specialty, a master's degree,
37:32in an area that perhaps is not where he has the natural vocation
37:35or where it is attractive to him.
37:37And this will also allow him to define that part.
37:40And in a general sense,
37:42we have in Congress, right now,
37:45the cybersecurity bill,
37:47the bill that creates the National Blood Bank System
37:51and Blood Donation of the Dominican Republic.
37:54There are a number of projects of great impact.
37:57And now, we are going to be waiting,
38:00because I think that last week,
38:02an event took place,
38:04and I don't want to stop touching it,
38:07but it is remarkable,
38:09and it was the meeting of the presidents,
38:12sponsored by the President of the Republic,
38:16which I think marks a reference.
38:19First, it demonstrates a political maturity
38:21of our extraordinary country,
38:23which is recognized by the whole world,
38:26but from there, I understand, Mr. Alberto,
38:28that initiatives will have to come out,
38:30that will reach Congress,
38:32that will allow us to legislate.
38:34And I say this because in San Cristóbal,
38:36we have a direct impact with illegal immigration,
38:40which has to be addressed responsibly,
38:43and I think that from here,
38:45a consensual vision of the policies
38:48that have to be directed will come out.
38:50And if it reaches the Senate,
38:52with that previous consensus,
38:54I think that it will only exhaust
38:56the legislative processes to be able to evacuate,
38:59to modify the laws that can confront us
39:02in a more forceful way.
39:03That bill that is being discussed
39:05in the Senate or in Congress,
39:07that bill to harden, they say,
39:11the immigration policy,
39:13will it be stopped until there is consensus in the Senate?
39:18Not necessarily.
39:20It is still being worked on.
39:22Obviously, you know that the legislative process
39:25requires approval in both chambers.
39:28It is a process that often takes two, three,
39:32even more legislatures.
39:34I don't think it will be stopped,
39:36but obviously, I think that from this new scenario,
39:39there will have to be inputs, observations,
39:42that may be applied.
39:44Even if one of the chambers approves it,
39:46the modifications can be applied in the next one,
39:48in the process of discussion.
39:50Well, you senators are distributed
39:54in commissions of specialized work.
39:56That's right.
39:58In which ones are you?
40:00We are directing the permanent sports commission.
40:04We are part of the industry and trade commission,
40:07the external relations commission,
40:09the youth commission, the defense commission.
40:11We were part of the special commission
40:13of the accounting chamber.
40:15And well, the truth is that there is a lot of work ahead.
40:18And what are the priorities of this legislature?
40:20Well, in this legislature we have to know,
40:22in the Senate, that law of treatment
40:24that is being known.
40:26We also have as a priority
40:28this law of cyber security
40:30that is being discussed,
40:32which is an initiative that we took
40:34and we immediately reached.
40:36The proposal is going to be known now,
40:40or is already being known,
40:42of the electoral central board of modification
40:44to normalize, regulate,
40:46the independent candidacies.
40:48I think there is a lot of work
40:50in the commissions and in the...
40:52And it also reaches the media.
40:54The media also, of course.
40:56And well, it is already...
40:58It must be reported
41:00in the next few days in the commission.
41:02The commission. You are not part of that commission.
41:04I am not part of that commission.
41:06But it has been meeting, it has been very active.
41:08There is the code, the modification to the labor code,
41:10which must also be in a final stage
41:12because most of the sectors have already been heard.
41:15There is a lot of work, there is a dynamic, I must say.
41:18Listening to you talk about all these projects,
41:21I ask myself,
41:24how has the Senate raised itself at this time
41:27to see some way to reduce the legislative mora,
41:30which is high.
41:32Look, the legislative mora,
41:34and it is a priority for us.
41:36In fact, I think that in the past four years,
41:39and this has been reduced,
41:41there are projects that are 15, 20 years old.
41:45It has a lot to do with...
41:47And that are introduced and do not finish.
41:49Of course, it also has a lot to do with...
41:51Because sometimes we over-legislate.
41:54Legislators over-legislate on issues
41:56that may not need a new law,
41:58but perhaps an observation, a modification to an existing law.
42:03But also to the generation of social consensus.
42:06For example,
42:08my opinion is that if the country wants
42:11a modification to the penal code,
42:13the first thing it has to do
42:15is exclude the issue of the three causes of the penal code.
42:19Because that is the issue that has generated...
42:21But they have already agreed on that,
42:23and yet the code is not approved.
42:25No, not on that. It has not been excluded.
42:27Nor has that issue of the penal code been brought up.
42:30And I say this because, first,
42:32I think that this is not the genesis of the modification of the penal code.
42:35Second, because I think it is something
42:37that can be discussed in a separate law,
42:39because it is proven that where there is incense,
42:41many times there are agreements,
42:43and there is evidence of what the result will be
42:46in a vote in Congress.
42:49In a direct way.
42:51However, socially, there is no consensus.
42:54So, within the work of listening to the population,
42:59in those public views that are made,
43:02obviously the legislator always tries
43:04to interpret the sense of society.
43:07So, when there is no consensus, it is much more difficult.
43:10I am of those who believe that if we really want
43:12a modification of the penal code,
43:14that is an issue that we must exclude.
43:16I have a pending issue.
43:18We are running out of time,
43:21but the Congress is going to change its directives in August.
43:27Well, there is a process of election that does not necessarily have to change.
43:30Well, exactly. But I see that there are aspirants in the Senate.
43:34Yes.
43:35More than one. There are several.
43:37That's right.
43:38Which one is yours?
43:39I support that President Ricardo de los Santos
43:42continues to lead the Senate.
43:44I think he has done a great job.
43:46He has managed to generate consensus,
43:48to bring harmony,
43:50and he has represented the Senate of the Republic very dignified.
43:53How many are the aspirants?
43:55So far, that I have heard,
43:57President Ricardo de los Santos,
43:59and this week I saw recently that Senator Antonio Taveras
44:02announced that he also intended to aspire.
44:04Publicly, I think those two.
44:06Good.
44:08Well, I would like to take advantage of the last minute we have left,
44:13just to ask.
44:14I am aware that from the Senate, from the Congress in general,
44:17but from the Senate, the issue of loans is approved very easily, for example.
44:22But what about the inspection of the implementation of what is supposed to be
44:27proposed by these approvals?
44:30How much is the Senate really investigating?
44:32Look, I can speak on our part.
44:35In our case, we inspect everything that has to do directly with the province of San Cristobal,
44:40very directly and permanently.
44:42And I am going to give you an example.
44:44Here, a project is being developed,
44:46which comes from those processes that go through the approval of the National Congress,
44:52which, although it is not executed in the province of San Cristobal,
44:55directly impacts San Cristobal,
44:57as is the step of the level that is being done in Plaza de la Bandera.
45:00Because we live it daily.
45:02I want to tell you that in my case, we have made at least three visits
45:06in the process of evaluation,
45:08seeing how the project is advancing,
45:11that it maintains the pace of work.
45:13With the Minister of Public Works, we maintain a permanent communication.
45:16For example, there is also the project of the sanitary city
45:19that is being developed in Santiago,
45:21which in its first stage contemplates the trauma.
45:24Permanently, every 15 days, at least, we go to the field,
45:28I encourage you to see the progress of the projects,
45:31which also start from that financing with the funds of Aerodrome.
45:34In an exercise, precisely, to inspect.
45:39I think it is necessary to strengthen this work in Congress,
45:43in a general sense.
45:45Perhaps it is a matter of incorporating in the agenda of the day to day
45:50of each legislator,
45:52in assuming that role, obviously,
45:54to evaluate where each of the funds that we approve go.
45:57But I must also recognize,
45:59and it is a very personal opinion,
46:01and I have commented it with fellow senators and with the deputies,
46:04that in the country there is a greater perception of approval of loans
46:10than that of real approval.
46:12And I explain.
46:14Every time a loan is approved in the Senate, it goes to the House of Representatives.
46:19But when it comes out in the news,
46:21they understand that there are two different loans.
46:23And it is one.
46:25And many times, a loan that goes through a process of approval in the Senate,
46:29goes to the House of Representatives,
46:31has modifications and returns.
46:33So there is a...
46:35I don't want to justify, but there is obviously a greater perception.
46:38But there is an irreversible, unquestionable fact,
46:42and that is that foreign debt has become an extremely heavy burden
46:49for an economy like ours.
46:51And today we have even seen the President of the Republic himself say
46:55that most of the money that enters the state,
47:00a large part of it goes to pay interests and cushion the prices.
47:07And I must tell you, Mr. Adalberto, and to all the public,
47:11because the President, I have talked to him directly,
47:14the President has been focusing on what is imminently necessary.
47:21I will give an example.
47:22We are advocating for a project that needs San Cristobal,
47:27especially the community of Jaina,
47:29so that the state can assume a financing that is available.
47:34And it is for the intervention of the canyons of the municipality of Jaina,
47:37in a reality that impacts hundreds of thousands of inhabitants,
47:42but that somehow the state does not have the capacity at this time
47:46to make the intervention with the cost it has.
47:48And we are striving for that.
47:50The President told us, Gustavo, only for what is necessary,
47:53we are going to opt for new financing,
47:55look to see what other alternatives we have,
47:58especially in that process, because I understand the President,
48:02but in our case, we know the need,
48:05we know the drama that those families live around the canyons,
48:09in a municipality that grew disorganized like Jaina,
48:12it can have an impact like this.
48:14And it is thanks to Jaina that so much wealth is produced.
48:16That's right.
48:17And so many satisfactory needs it has.
48:19That's right.
48:20That is part of the contrast that this country has.
48:24And we could say that San Cristobal has many municipalities like this.
48:27Many.
48:28Because in the case of Villa Alta Graja, too.
48:30It is a living example.
48:31That produces so much water.
48:32Yes, that's right.
48:33For this capital, it has so many needs.
48:35So many needs.
48:36That is going to change with God ahead.
48:38Well, may God hear you, Senator.
48:40Amen.
48:41Thank you very much, thank you for waking up.
48:44It is always difficult to mobilize in the morning.
48:47You also live in San Cristobal.
48:48I live in San Cristobal.
48:49You live in San Cristobal.
48:50Yes.
48:51He came here.
48:52And thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your company.
48:54The publication is open for tomorrow.
48:56Join us in another installment of this one-plus-one newscast.
49:00Have a good day.

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