The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 2
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00:00was because I wanted to work out my marriage.
00:02And so I feel like now, I am ready to own up to things.
00:07Miranda, she was a swinger.
00:08She was very much involved in the whole situation.
00:10But Miranda and Chase, her husband, during the time
00:14denied everything and tried to make
00:16Taylor to look like a villain.
00:17And so that's why I feel like we all
00:19have a hard time with Miranda.
00:20I definitely think Miranda sees how well Mom Talk is doing.
00:23And now she's just coming on back,
00:25even though she hasn't talked to any of us
00:27for like two and a half years.
00:29It doesn't feel like the intention's pure.
00:30I don't ever think the intention ever will feel pure.
00:33I don't think I have any intention of us
00:34all hanging out in group settings every single weekend.
00:36I believe you.
00:38I trust your intentions.
00:40Thank you, I appreciate that.
00:41It's hard conversations to have.
00:44I don't think one single part of me
00:45wants to hear what Whitney has to say.
00:47I don't really give a shit.
00:48She's not even part of the group.
00:49Mom Talk is my chosen family
00:51and I've become more protective over it.
00:53So ideally, I would love for Whitney and Miranda
00:56to link up and leave all of us alone.
00:59I think it's just when it's all put out there
01:01and it's like, he said, she said,
01:02it's like, okay, well, who's lying to us?
01:03Like, we just don't, no one wants to be lied to,
01:05I think is the problem.
01:06I wasn't ready to own anything.
01:08Like, the reason I never even brought up
01:09the whole like kissing thing
01:11and initially like wanted to deny that
01:12is because it's still freaking weird.
01:14That wasn't something I wanted to continue doing, right?
01:16This is like awkward to talk about,
01:18like with the church and like family and everything.
01:20Like it still was shameful and uncomfortable to bring up.
01:24I have like animosity, I think with us
01:27because I felt like very left by you.
01:29We were like sisters.
01:30I feel like you thought maybe I was leading Chase on
01:33when I've never liked Chase a day in my life
01:36and he knows that and that's why he hates me
01:37and is obsessed.
01:38But I told him about a dream.
01:41I feel like Miranda thinks I led Chase on
01:43while they were still married
01:44because I told him that I had like a sex dream about him.
01:48And honestly, I didn't think anything of it
01:49because of what we were doing,
01:51that seemed so normal.
01:52Because of what we were doing,
01:54that seemed so mild to me.
01:55Like a sex dream, what to do?
01:57I really didn't think a dream was a big deal
02:00considering we're making out with each other
02:01and touching each other on the weekends.
02:05It felt like it just like opened up a space
02:06for him to feel comfortable to say things to you.
02:09Shortly after I told Chase about the sex dream,
02:11Chase came to me at the gym
02:14and told me that he had feelings for me.
02:17And basically that was him like trying to open a door.
02:19And I was like, I like am flattered and I appreciate it,
02:21but I do not feel the same.
02:23It just felt very hurtful that like you were telling
02:25everyone in our friend group, but you never told me.
02:27Yeah, that is my bad.
02:28I was being a bad friend of like,
02:30not immediately going to you and be like,
02:31this is what your husband said,
02:33but I knew I would lose you that day.
02:37It was hard just because it was also,
02:38I mean, I was like four months postpartum.
02:40I know.
02:41And then I was also like,
02:49I lost my best friend, dude.
02:52I don't think you think about the fact that I cared,
02:56but I cared, like I hurt a lot.
02:58I just never wanted to know because I was so mad.
03:01Yeah, and I completely understand the husband thing
03:05because I feel like as a best friend,
03:06you owe that to your best friend to tell him no matter what.
03:09And that's where I went bad and I know that.
03:11I appreciate that.
03:13We were so inexperienced.
03:15There was no balance.
03:16There was no discussion.
03:17So lines weren't blurred.
03:19The girls have this resentment towards her
03:22and they all stuck by my back.
03:24So it's like almost as I should have
03:25that resentment as well.
03:27However, they don't know the extent of the situation.
03:30I think they forget I was also a villain in that story.
03:33There will be a conversation between Miranda and I
03:36without everyone, I would love that.
03:38It's just me and her.
03:39I've always wanted to get past this,
03:41but I was in like a very different place.
03:44There was so much that I literally did not have it in me
03:50to face.
03:51I'm proud of you both.
03:52Just to be able to sit in the same room
03:54and have this conversation, no matter how it goes
03:56and how you move forward.
03:58I guess I never really considered the fact
04:00that Taylor and Miranda were really good friends
04:02before all the fallout happened.
04:04And I could understand why Miranda would miss that
04:06and feel like she's longing for a place
04:09and them kind of longing to be friends again.
04:13It's been a hell of a couple of years, huh?
04:15Yes, it's been awful.
04:17I was telling them I've become a lot more softer
04:20than I was.
04:21I feel like I can see that.
04:22Yeah, it's made me soft.
04:23And I think we're just more empathetic
04:24because I feel like when people are struggling,
04:26Whitney, for example, has been destroyed on the internet.
04:30And I felt nothing but empathy for her
04:32because yes, you might've made a lot of your own decisions
04:35and pissed a lot of people off,
04:37but I've been in your place.
04:39And when you're kicked while you're down,
04:41freaking sucks and it can make you go insane.
04:44I'm trying to make amends with all of these women.
04:48What we learn in the church is to open our heart, forgive.
04:51Everyone's being cordial,
04:52but I can feel I'm not necessarily wanted here right now.
04:55So it's really nice to have Taylor sticking up for me.
04:58I feel like these little steps are being taken.
05:02I'm really hoping the momentum
05:03and the growth that we're making doesn't stop.
05:06Everyone's like, Whitney freaking hates you, Taylor.
05:08Whatever, but I just want people to know
05:10that I've been there at the fucking bottom,
05:13kicked, and it sucks.
05:15Well, I don't hate you, but I appreciate that.
05:19Just want everyone in the room to know that too.
05:22Taylor's preaching tonight.
05:23I love it.
05:24Amen.
05:27Get her a name tag.
05:28Just kidding.
05:30I'm kind of confused because I feel like we still
05:33didn't get to the bottom of this swinging scandal tonight.
05:35Miranda skirted around the issue a lot.
05:38I'm throwing a Halloween party next week.
05:39So I think I need to expand my guest list.
05:42Miranda's ex-husband Chase is dating my friend.
05:44So not only am I going to invite him,
05:46I invited Miranda too.
05:48I think that trust is everything in friendships.
05:50And if we don't have trust in mom talk,
05:51we don't have anything.
05:52And I think we'll be able to tell who's lying and who's not
05:55if we get them in the same room.
05:58I'm glad we had a little icebreaker sesh before your party.
06:02Woo woo.
06:03Yeah, when is that by the way?
06:04It's exciting.
06:05When is that again?
06:06Next week.
06:07Oh, okay.
06:07Yeah, it's going to be fun.
06:08Okay.
06:46Oh my God.
06:54Suspect is a multi-millionaire,
06:55but still orders a kid's meal at every restaurant.
07:04This is so me.
07:05It's so you.
07:06It's like Barbie girl.
07:07Like, oh wait, these ones are cute too.
07:08Like the denim.
07:09No, I love the denim.
07:11Hello.
07:12McKay.
07:14Hello.
07:15So cute.
07:17I'm super excited for the Halloween party
07:19and I really need to find a costume.
07:21Dad's actually so cute.
07:22I really want that.
07:23And now I'm divorced.
07:24I just got my body redone.
07:26I want to show it off.
07:27I'm also dating somebody new right now.
07:30Cameron is a soccer coach.
07:31He was raised Mormon and his dad is a Bishop.
07:35Me and him have been together for about four months now.
07:38He seriously is the best.
07:39He sees me.
07:40He loves me in ways that I didn't think
07:42that anyone could love me.
07:43And I feel confident in myself for the first time
07:46in a really long time.
07:47Hello.
07:48Hey.
07:49Hi.
07:50You guys are all the same vibe.
07:52I like went total opposite.
07:54I kind of want to try these.
07:55We need some for stagecoach.
07:56Yeah.
07:57Wait, Jen going to stagecoach, right?
07:59I don't know.
08:00How is she doing?
08:00Taylor was saying Jen told her that Zach
08:03was planning on moving back in their house
08:05and working things out because he's a changed man.
08:08A changed man.
08:09I think it just breaks my heart.
08:10Cause it's like,
08:11I just don't know how much better it can get from that.
08:14And maybe like he really has changed,
08:15but I just feel like he's shown his true character.
08:17And like, I don't, I don't know.
08:19How would you feel if he went to a Magic Mike concert?
08:21Being divorced and taking care of two kids
08:24would be kind of tough.
08:25So I guess you make the decision.
08:27She had me read their entire thread.
08:29I'm done with you.
08:30I'm done with our marriage.
08:32I'm done.
08:33You're disgusting.
08:34He said, I don't love you anymore.
08:35I don't love you.
08:37When it's that bad where like you're telling your spouse
08:39you don't love them.
08:40No, it's crazy behavior.
08:41You're a bad mom, whatever.
08:42Like there's not many success stories of
08:44it's better than ever after that low of a look.
08:46Yeah.
08:47I think women tend to put up with a lot more
08:49in their marriages in the Mormon church
08:51because it is frowned upon to get divorced.
08:53Maybe there's a little bit of that playing in
08:55with Jen and Zach's relationship.
08:57Jen said it was a trial period.
08:59Oh, what does that mean?
09:00They're just going to test out the waters, I guess,
09:02and see if he's actually changed.
09:04And then if not, I'm like,
09:04you're going to kick him out again.
09:07♪ I'll be the last one standing ♪
09:12♪ I'll be the last one standing ♪
09:17♪ I'll be the last one standing ♪
09:22♪ Last one standing, I'll see you on the other side ♪
09:26♪ I'm staying here tonight ♪
09:28Got one, got one.
09:30There you go.
09:31Whoa.
09:32Damn.
09:33Oh, nice dude.
09:34You see that one?
09:34Yeah, I did.
09:36I can see why you guys do this.
09:38It's relaxing, isn't it?
09:40Yeah, dude.
09:41That's why I do it.
09:42I'm from Idaho, so I like love fly fishing.
09:45It's like therapy for me.
09:47Whoa, shit, shit.
09:49With everything that's going on with Taylor,
09:51I just wanted to hang out with my friends
09:54and just like clear my head.
09:55We're just trying to chill.
09:57So Dakota, what's going on with you and Taylor now?
09:59Yeah, things have been like super rough,
10:02but like I get why like everything I did
10:04like hurt her 10 times more.
10:06I just screwed up.
10:07Like I freaking lied.
10:08I don't know, dude.
10:09I just feel for my son.
10:11I've never been a dad.
10:12It's like the most important thing ever
10:13to me in my life right now.
10:15And I feel like I'm like losing that.
10:19Oh, freak.
10:21Co-parenting and living alone, fuck.
10:24Like just trying to navigate all this,
10:27that's been challenging for me.
10:29I messed up and I wish I could go back and change that
10:32because I love Taylor more than anyone.
10:34That's where I have to come in and start showing her
10:38I want to make things right.
10:39I want to fix this and I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
10:45But I do feel like Taylor's parents have been there for me,
10:47even with our situation right now.
10:49Like Leanne just invited me
10:51to a barbecue at her place this weekend.
10:54If you can come for dinner, that would be great.
10:57I appreciate you inviting me.
10:58Jer and I both wanted to sit down with you and-
11:00Are you going to be here?
11:03Yeah, Jeremy, I'll be there.
11:04You better, pussy.
11:06Yeah.
11:09Hey Zach, you just barely moved back?
11:11Yeah, like five days ago.
11:14Have you liked being back so far?
11:16Yeah, it's been good.
11:17We've been doing ketamine therapy together.
11:19You're kidding me.
11:20Yeah, more than anything, I'm just back to support Jen.
11:23So like the whole Chippendale thing,
11:25how would you have operated differently?
11:27What I did was wrong.
11:28And like, I have to live with the repercussions of that
11:30the rest of my life.
11:33It's just been a good time for me to like look inside
11:36and kind of see what changes I need to make.
11:38Oh shit.
11:39Sorry, Zach, give me just a second.
11:41This is some bullshit I'm dealing with.
11:43Are you guys still going to church and everything?
11:46I'm not currently going now.
11:48Jen still wants to go and I think eventually we will.
11:51Interesting.
11:52Okay, so that's more from your side.
11:53Yeah, it's a hundred percent me.
11:55Wait, whoa, that is crazy, dude.
11:57I feel not accepted.
11:58I also feel honestly embarrassed.
12:00We've had like a couple nasty interactions
12:02with people at church.
12:04Yeah.
12:04Dude, that's like exactly what I had to go through.
12:07I get death threats from women all the time.
12:09Yeah, I probably had 50 to a hundred DMs saying like,
12:12you deserve to die.
12:13Like if I saw you in person, I'd kill you.
12:15Jeez.
12:16You know, if you have like a good relationship with God
12:18and you're trying to figure it out with him,
12:19I don't think anything else matters.
12:20A hundred percent.
12:21Yeah.
12:23I really like all the husbands.
12:24We have a weird bond.
12:26We kind of all are in a similar situation.
12:28Sometimes it's nice to be with them
12:30and just like vent to each other about like the wives.
12:33Jen asked me to give Jesse and Demi an apology.
12:36Probably won't be the funnest conversation,
12:38but for us to heal in our marriage,
12:40I think it needs to happen.
12:41I'm just hoping to move past this whole situation.
12:44So how come all the Utah boys are catching fish
12:46and the Idaho boy?
12:47I already caught, dude, I had a couple on.
12:49Oh, I didn't see it.
12:50Yeah, I caught one and then, oh shit.
12:54The guy's pouring his guts out.
12:56Hasn't caught one fish.
12:57You know I can't multitask, dude.
13:03Okay.
13:04Let's do this.
13:05I've never been up against someone's husband, so.
13:07I know.
13:08This is a new feeling.
13:08This is so interesting.
13:09Give me Whitney all day every day, but this is different.
13:12Apparently Jen has asked Zach to meet with me and Demi.
13:15I definitely feel like they're better off apart,
13:17but I guess if this is going to help Jen,
13:19I'm all for it.
13:20I don't know.
13:21I don't know.
13:22I don't know.
13:23I don't know.
13:24I don't know.
13:24I don't know.
13:25I don't know.
13:26I don't know.
13:27I don't know.
13:28I don't know.
13:29I don't know.
13:29I don't know.
13:30I don't know.
13:31I don't know.
13:32I don't know.
13:33I'm all for it.
13:34So I'm curious to see how this goes.
13:36Jen told me that it was like after a ketamine session
13:40that he's like, I want to meet with them.
13:41So maybe he had like visions of us.
13:43I don't know.
13:44Visions of Glory?
13:45Yeah.
13:46He's like, I need to meet with my Lord and Savior.
13:49I don't know.
13:50I just feel.
13:50Jessie.
13:52His Lord and Savior, us.
13:55We are.
13:56I'm nervous going into this conversation
13:58with Demi and Jessie.
13:59They can both be very aggressive.
14:00I don't know if they're going to accept my apology,
14:02but I want to show Jen how much I support her.
14:05And I feel like whoever Jen decides to be friends with,
14:07I want her to feel that support.
14:09But yeah, they spread a lot of rumors and lies about me.
14:11For that reason, I'm a little bit scared
14:13about how this conversation is going to go.
14:17Are we ready to do this?
14:18All right, girl power.
14:20Power in the pussy.
14:21Power in the pussy.
14:21Power in the pussy.
14:22Power in the pussy.
14:23Power in the pussy.
14:24Power in the pussy.
14:25Power in the pussy.
14:29Hello.
14:30Hi, guys.
14:31How are you?
14:31Good.
14:32Good to see you.
14:33Thanks for coming, guys.
14:34Thanks for having us.
14:35We were so surprised you chose the coffee shop.
14:36This feels like a business meeting.
14:37I know.
14:38It does.
14:39I know.
14:40I was like, it kind of feels like an interview.
14:40It does.
14:41You're like, what are your good qualities?
14:44What do you struggle with?
14:46We know what you struggle with, but just kidding.
14:48Thanks, Jessie.
14:49I appreciate that.
14:50But thank you guys for coming.
14:51I mean, I feel like there's been some weird contention
14:54and things ever since Vegas.
14:56I said some super hurtful things to Jen.
14:59Gambling and then complaining about Chippendales
15:01is like, I look like the biggest hypocrite in the world.
15:04I could have easily just been like, hey, I'm bummed out,
15:06but I get you were having fun,
15:07you were being a supportive friend,
15:08and I didn't, and I regret that.
15:12I'm grateful for what you guys said.
15:13Honestly, it has been transformative for our marriage,
15:18because then it's helped us have
15:19some of the hardest conversations we've ever had.
15:21What is going on right now?
15:23He is doing a full 180,
15:26and I was not expecting this at all.
15:28I just wanted to address with you, Demi.
15:30Watching it back, I was like, damn.
15:33She was talking major shit on me.
15:35Major truth, not shit.
15:37Just calling out the behavior, that's all.
15:38Some things, like for example,
15:40you said I gambled my medical school tuition.
15:42That's a blatant lie.
15:43Well, that came from Jen, though.
15:44We were told this.
15:45Jen told us that the night before,
15:47when I was reading the text.
15:48I don't want to throw Jen into this,
15:50because I just want to take accountability.
15:52Well, is that true or false?
15:54That is 100% a blatant lie.
15:58I would have never just made that up,
15:59or brought that up if I didn't think that that was the truth.
16:02And that also goes into what we thought about you,
16:04because we have been told certain things,
16:06so that kind of just played into the mindset we had
16:08when it comes to you.
16:10I think what scares me is when she's like,
16:11he has to learn, he can't be a narcissist.
16:13And we're like, what?
16:15She just uses language that's a little scary.
16:17I have never seen anyone take accountability
16:22like he has, especially having those narcissistic traits
16:26that he carries.
16:26Because a lot of times, it's not just environmental,
16:29it's passed down genetically.
16:33To me, I guess I thought those were conversations
16:35you were having.
16:36Yeah, I thought that was pretty harsh
16:37coming from your partner.
16:40I don't feel like that's who I am,
16:42and that's not who I want to be.
16:44There's always been an element of Jen
16:46where I don't fully trust what she's saying.
16:48I feel like not a lot of it is sincere or genuine.
16:50And I blamed it on the relationship.
16:52She's not sure what to say or how to say it
16:54because how Zach will react.
16:56But now that I'm hearing these things, I'm like,
16:57is she just not trustworthy as a person?
16:59Does she not like confrontation
17:01and she doesn't like to make people upset
17:03so she tells everyone what they want to hear?
17:05I'm really, really confused.
17:07She's expressed to me that you guys were so there
17:11that night, but then no one in the group
17:13has been there since.
17:14That's what pisses me off because I have texted her.
17:17I have text, I can show you, I love you,
17:18do you need anything?
17:19But she doesn't respond.
17:21She doesn't respond to us.
17:22I've tried, so for her to say that, it sucks.
17:23I only have Jen's perspective.
17:25I don't know what you guys have or haven't done.
17:26And obviously I'm gonna take my wife's side
17:29because that's what I'm supposed to do.
17:30It sounds like a pattern.
17:31We've only had Jen's perspective too on you.
17:34And it seems like it's not matching up,
17:35which is concerning.
17:37Things are adding up when it comes to Jen.
17:39It sounds like she is spinning things in her favor,
17:42like she's playing both sides and I don't like that.
17:44If it turns out that the things that Zach is saying is true,
17:48then she absolutely needs to be held accountable for that.
17:51It sounds like I have some tough conversations
17:54I need to have with my own wife.
18:19Wow.
18:29Hello.
18:30Oh, you look so cute.
18:33Oh, hey buddy.
18:35Look at his little eyes.
18:36Wait, I want him.
18:38Now we just need Dakota to show up.
18:42Did you know he was coming?
18:43Did I tell you?
18:47I don't care.
18:48Yeah, you do.
18:49Because you would have already been gone if you didn't care.
18:52Ever since Jenna and finding out everything I have,
18:54I feel like I am really struggling.
18:57Dakota and I, we have lack of communication
19:00and it's affecting our co-parenting.
19:03But it's hard because my parents really want us
19:06to give our all before we say we quit.
19:09So what are you going to be for Halloween?
19:11Oh, I am Gretchen Wieners.
19:15From Mean Girls?
19:16Yeah.
19:17Are you a slutty Gretchen?
19:19Or are you going to be just?
19:21I'm a cat, so I'm pretty covered.
19:23So pretty boring.
19:27So who's all going to the party?
19:29I wish I could go.
19:30So you can be friend Chase and talk to him?
19:32Yeah, I don't know why you like Chase.
19:34They're nice to me.
19:35Why should I be mean to anybody that's not nice?
19:37I like everybody.
19:38Because they treated your daughter like shit.
19:39I don't understand.
19:41My mom's a real estate agent
19:42and she was Chase and Miranda's realtor
19:44when they were still married.
19:45And for some reason, she will always stay in touch with them.
19:48It's just, I'm not surprised either
19:50because she's always his way.
19:51Do you care that I talk to Chase or Miranda?
19:53I don't have the capacity to be worrying
19:55about that type of shit when I have my own shit, you know?
20:08My goal is always to be with Taylor,
20:11to have our family together.
20:13And I think the only way to have a lasting relationship
20:16is you have to get really good at forgiving each other
20:19and not go backwards.
20:20I want to like truly try to go forward.
20:24Hello?
20:25Who is it?
20:26You know who it is.
20:27Oh, for hell sakes.
20:28Your favorite friend.
20:30Oh, well, there's the big guy.
20:33Hi.
20:37Hi, Brynn.
20:38Hi.
20:38Taylor.
20:39Hi.
20:40Oh, Everett, don't touch the corn.
20:42Okay, I guess Everett's going to touch the corn.
20:44Oh, we're doing it down there.
20:45Yeah.
20:46Oh, I thought it was out here.
20:47Okay.
20:48I'm going to go take these in.
20:49Let me go take something out.
20:50You want to grab that corn so bad, don't you?
20:53You want to grab the cookies, one of you?
20:55Yeah.
21:00Does anybody want any corn?
21:03I'm good right now.
21:03Thank you, though.
21:10You're just so quiet.
21:11You're just so closed off.
21:13I'm at loss for words.
21:14You guys were together and then not together,
21:17and then what's today looking like, I guess?
21:21I don't know.
21:22It's just so exhausting going back and forth,
21:24back and forth, on, off.
21:26It's not good.
21:26We're all tired of it, like really.
21:28It's obvious.
21:29You guys started your relationship
21:30on a foundation of shit.
21:32Yeah, I agree.
21:33Be honest.
21:34You didn't heal from your divorce.
21:36You had a ton of baggage.
21:37It's hard because you guys have a damn kid now.
21:40Yeah.
21:42I always cry at these things, too.
21:43I sure am.
21:46Shows you're a good human.
21:49Look, a relationship isn't 50-50.
21:53It's 100% on both ends.
21:55It feels like there's a little bit lacking on one end.
21:59It's going to take me a while to get there.
22:01I hear he slept with another girl.
22:02He admitted it.
22:03I was so sad that I needed space.
22:05He went and hooked up with Jenna
22:07that very night I found out and was bawling my eyes out.
22:10During the time when I slept with the girl,
22:11I hung with Taylor three times or two times.
22:14Two nights after that, he goes,
22:16and Taylor, you're pretty much the only girl I'm seeing.
22:18I'm trashed him.
22:19You come over the next night, fuck me,
22:22and then you go and you hang out with another girl,
22:24and then he comes the next night and fucks me again.
22:26Well, okay, okay, okay.
22:28I wasn't lying to you about someone else.
22:30Here's the thing.
22:31I'm going to be blunt, fricking honest.
22:34He just told me that you guys
22:35had seen each other three times.
22:37I don't know Taylor.
22:38Before all this.
22:40And then you're sitting there telling me
22:41that he came over and had sex with you.
22:43What does that say about you?
22:47I'm not, I'm not pointing fingers.
22:49You guys.
22:50That's what I'm saying.
22:51I was trashed.
22:54I know.
22:55No, no, no.
22:56I'm saying it though.
22:59I guess what I'm hearing is you deserve what you got
23:02because you like gave it up so easily.
23:03That's what I hear.
23:04And when you hear your parents say that,
23:06like, why were you expecting to be respected?
23:09It like hurts.
23:13I just confirmed my insecurities
23:15and my beliefs about myself.
23:16No, I'm saying.
23:17No, you're not trashed.
23:18You're making this up.
23:19You're not leaving.
23:20Yes, you did.
23:21No self-respect.
23:22I hate me.
23:23What I'm saying.
23:24Let me finish.
23:24I feel like it's at my lowest.
23:26Let me finish.
23:27And my loudest.
23:29You guys both had so much baggage.
23:32Ah, because I know.
23:34I know I didn't have self-respect.
23:37It doesn't change that when you lie
23:38and you go hook up with another girl
23:39while you're apologizing.
23:41It's so fucking hard.
23:41I know, but you're supposed to give
23:42the other person the benefit of the doubt.
23:43I just found out all these outlines
23:46that I was fucked over.
23:47And no one is saying,
23:48oh, get over it right now.
23:49Well, stop saying it.
23:50No, you can't say it.
23:51It's just saying,
23:52sacrifice it just for a little bit.
23:54He was asking her to hang out in the day
23:56and I was only nights.
23:57This is true.
23:58I was only nights.
23:59This is driving me nuts when she's saying this shit.
23:59And I had to ask him.
24:00That's the biggest lie I've ever seen in my life.
24:02And I'm not going to let you keep saying that lie to me.
24:04Stop saying that lie to me
24:05because that is not true.
24:07And when you're asking me to come over at night
24:10all the time,
24:12what is that telling me as a guy?
24:14Why did I have to ask that?
24:17Because I've already told you.
24:18Taylor, you're forgetting that I'm coming
24:20from a very broken place too.
24:22That matters.
24:23You can't just disregard the shit
24:24that I just went through
24:26and where I was at in my life.
24:27Okay, but you knowing that,
24:29then don't come into my life
24:30and pretend to be a good charming.
24:31So why did you want to come into my life?
24:32Oh my God.
24:33Give an inch so he could walk a mile.
24:35Just give fucking two inches of sacrifice
24:39and see what he can do.
24:42Why are you guys all coming at me?
24:44I feel very unheard, judged,
24:48like let's move on,
24:50let's get over it.
24:51And I'm like,
24:52in what world am I supposed to just let this go?
24:56You guys, it takes a season to grow anything.
24:59I just think that you need to forgive yourself.
25:02That's where it all comes down to
25:04because you guys weren't really together to me.
25:07And yes, you shouldn't have slept with him.
25:08And that's why we always tell you like,
25:11that's not the fucking point.
25:14He lied.
25:15Yes, that is so wrong,
25:16but you weren't together.
25:18So what are you saying right now?
25:19What does that mean?
25:20I'm just saying,
25:21you need to go through therapy
25:23and give him some grace.
25:26If you love him,
25:27then it's worth trying.
25:29Family is something that I strongly believe in.
25:31That's exactly my whole point.
25:33I have still chose to stick through this
25:37and try to figure this out.
25:38You know it too.
25:39And that's why it drives me nuts
25:40is because you do know how much I care and love you, Taylor.
25:44Dude, I have a child with you.
25:46All I've wanted is a family.
25:47Why do I want to come here and blast this to the wind?
25:50Okay, okay.
25:51Who wants to do that?
25:52Stop.
25:53You guys are not going anywhere.
25:54Honestly, I think you guys need to be separated
25:56and stay separated.
25:58You need to work.
25:59Focus on you.
26:00You need to keep going to therapy
26:01and you need to give yourself grace.
26:04You carry so much guilt with your kids and what happened.
26:08Now you have Ever,
26:09and he can feel tension in the house
26:11when you guys are together.
26:12You can tell,
26:13and it's just,
26:14you need to do what's best for him.
26:15And I'm sorry,
26:16it's staying separated right now.
26:21If God really did send him to you,
26:23he will bring him back to you.
26:24It's you and Satan in your own head
26:27and it's eating you alive.
26:28Put it in God's hands
26:30because I honestly think it'll blossom after.
26:32I think I was punished for what I did.
26:34Oh my gosh, Taylor.
26:36No, I think it was,
26:37I'm going to let you feel what you did to somebody.
26:40God is not like that.
26:41I didn't cheat on you.
26:42I'm sorry, but God is not like that.
26:44It is betrayal,
26:45but I don't think that we're getting anywhere right now.
26:48I have to work in the morning, so.
26:51So get out.
26:51So no, not get out,
26:53but if we can say a prayer
26:56since we didn't pray before we ate.
27:00Dear Congressional Assembly Father,
27:01we're so grateful for this night.
27:03We're so grateful to have Dakota and Taylor
27:06be able to try to figure things out.
27:12And please bless that they can love one another
27:15and we're grateful for our family.
27:18Sometimes we don't all get along,
27:20but we're grateful.
27:22And I say this name of Jesus Christ, amen.
27:27As angry and mad as I am,
27:29shutting the door is just not going to happen right now.
27:36I feel like I still obviously
27:38have lots of feelings towards him.
27:43I do love Dakota.
27:45That's why I'm in so much pain.
27:59♪ Film all your trash talk in a backlogged end ♪
28:02♪ Use it like fuel for the catwalk ♪
28:03♪ Gonna spree you getting high off the drama ♪
28:05♪ Don't make me dial your mama ♪
28:16It's important for me that Zach makes peace
28:18with Jessie and Demi
28:20because I feel like a lot of the resentment
28:24they have towards me is actually
28:26because of the resentment they have towards Zach.
28:29Hi babe.
28:30Hi, how did it go?
28:34That was a little rough.
28:36Oh no, you wanna come sit right here?
28:38So they were basically like Zach,
28:42the reason we have such negative feelings towards you
28:44is every time we're with Jen,
28:46all it is is negativity.
28:48All she says is how horrible you are,
28:51how narcissistic you are.
28:52You're kidding me right now.
28:54And I clarified like a lot of like lies
28:56and things that had been said about me
28:57and they're like, well, that's what we had heard.
28:59Like I haven't really talked to them at all since Vegas.
29:02So-
29:03In fact, they've never even reached out to me.
29:04So they also called you out for that.
29:07So let me just-
29:08Called me out.
29:09Yes.
29:10Didn't feel like it was like a,
29:12hey, how do we squash our beef to then support Jen?
29:15It kind of felt like it was everyone, not-
29:18Against Zach.
29:20No, against you, to be honest.
29:21Against me.
29:22It just bums me out, sweetie,
29:24because I've made mistakes.
29:27That being said, it's like,
29:27I feel like I'm so careful with my friends about the way,
29:31like, because there's negative things that you do,
29:34but I would never tell like Colin or Jackson
29:35or my best buddies these things
29:36because I don't want them to have this one-sided opinion.
29:39I don't want to vent to them about my marriage.
29:41All I've done since Vegas is defend you
29:43on social media, with my friends.
29:46At the same time, I'm also not defending your actions,
29:49but I have defended you and our relationship
29:53more times than you can even count.
29:55And do you know how many people have made me felt
29:57like delusional for doing that?
30:00And the crap that I've been through
30:02for defending you and your actions?
30:04If you don't trust them,
30:06then please don't go share all the negativity
30:09about our marriage.
30:11I mean, the fact that they're saying that makes me so,
30:15whoa, wait, you're not listening to me.
30:16Let me speak.
30:17You spoke for five minutes.
30:19Hear me out.
30:20Will I admit that there are times
30:22I talked negatively about you before Vegas?
30:25Yes.
30:26They said it's continued.
30:27No, no.
30:29In fact, they haven't been a part of my life after Vegas.
30:31I'm definitely triggered because Zach went there
30:34to apologize in the first place
30:36and now it's turned back on me.
30:38I need to have a conversation with the girls
30:40because I feel like if they truly valued me as a friend,
30:43they wouldn't be turning my husband against me.
30:45I just want to squash everything
30:47and get to the bottom of all of this.
30:50I would be happy to sit down with you and them.
30:54Yeah.
30:55I want to be straightforward about everything
30:56and I don't want to be playing telephone.
30:57Like I want everyone in the room.
30:58That's what it felt like is a lot of he said, she said.
31:00And I'm not playing the he said, she said anymore.
31:02And I think it would be best if we were all in the same room.
31:05No, no, no, no, no.
31:21So I kind of thought this could be like a centerpiece
31:23for food.
31:23That'll be cute.
31:25Are you amped?
31:26I'm nervous.
31:27Look how cute.
31:28Spooky.
31:29That's going to go out front, right?
31:31Yeah.
31:31Oh, they're here.
31:33Hello.
31:34Hi.
31:35We've got ourselves in.
31:36Welcome to our home.
31:37Jordan and I are having a Halloween party
31:39and we are having Brett and Demi over today.
31:41We had this idea to surprise everyone
31:43with a Chippendales performance,
31:45starring Brett and Jordan.
31:46And we thought it would be fun to do it
31:48with a Chippendales performance,
31:49starring Brett and Jordan.
31:51I think it's a chance for Zach to show
31:53that he's really changed and to just embrace this
31:56and be able to move forward.
31:58I mean, do you think this ends good?
31:59I know you're saying it's a coin flip,
32:00but what's your premonition to that?
32:02I don't know.
32:03They're like, stop yapping.
32:04For his sake, I hope obviously that he reacts.
32:07Normally.
32:08As though he's evolved.
32:09Do you think you're a little bit of a poster?
32:11I think I'm a therapist.
32:12It's going to be crazy though,
32:13like getting everyone in one room.
32:15I heard that you're inviting Kate.
32:17Is she bringing Chase?
32:19I think so.
32:20Jesse inviting Chase to the Halloween party is so messy
32:24because everyone has literally hooked up with everyone.
32:27We had Taylor, who was married to her ex-husband.
32:30They swung with Miranda and Chase.
32:33Chase fell in love with Taylor,
32:35but Taylor didn't reciprocate those same feelings for Chase.
32:39So Chase got butt hurt
32:40and he's been bashing her online ever since.
32:43Now Chase is dating one of Jesse's friends, Kate,
32:47but also Layla and Chase hooked up.
32:50So this is just going to end so bad.
32:52I'm nervous about it.
32:53In a normal world,
32:54I would never put these people together in one room,
32:57but how else are we going to get to the bottom
32:59of Miranda's involvement in the swinging scandal?
33:01Like if you want to come back into MomTalk,
33:03you have to be willing to tell the truth.
33:08Oh my gosh, he's here, you guys.
33:09What if he broke out into a dance right now?
33:11How's it going?
33:12Hey guys, how's it going?
33:13Good, Jordan.
33:13Jason.
33:14Jason, nice to meet you.
33:15Brett.
33:16That guy oiled you up at one point.
33:17Yeah, there was a little bit of that backstage.
33:20We've flown in an actual host of Chippendales.
33:25He's going to teach them not only a choreographed dance,
33:28but be there with them in the performance.
33:30Brett is going to look so sexy.
33:33We might need to implement this at home.
33:35Can you guys take off your shirts for this?
33:37Yeah, I think we need the shirts off.
33:38Oh boy.
33:39Just giving it a little tease.
33:41Just a little bit, and then, no, no, no.
33:43No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
33:45Yeah, you got to roll it.
33:46Yeah, I like that.
33:47Oh, I don't like that.
33:48Yeah, I can't get you to dance on it.
33:52So Jen's going to be the guest of honor.
33:54She'll be right here.
33:55We're going to give Jen
33:56the full Chippendales experience,
33:57and it's not the full experience
33:59if she doesn't get a lap dance, right?
34:01Time to go higher.
34:02Row, row.
34:08Next.
34:09You've got to get ready.
34:09I guess I'm going after this, too, then.
34:13Just let it go.
34:13And then you have to kiss her, all of you.
34:20That was incredible.
34:21I think that's good.
34:21And then after that,
34:22then it can just be like freestyle
34:24for if I can have fun with it, right?
34:25Yeah.
34:26Oh boy.
34:27I'm kind of nervous.
34:29This is either going to be the best Halloween party ever
34:31or the worst.
34:34I think you guys did a great job.
34:35We need a lot more practice.
34:37I mean.
34:43Hi, guys.
34:44Welcome in.
34:45We have our jammies and newborn in this first cubby.
34:48So you guys look around.
34:49Look at the little bats.
34:52So cute.
34:53Oh my God, it's adorable.
34:54When are you due?
34:54Tomorrow.
34:57Look at the ghosts.
34:58I like the bats more.
35:00Okay.
35:00With everyone in Mom Talk,
35:02it's clear that there's still some drama, animosity.
35:06There's tension right now.
35:07So you're still thinking it's a boy?
35:09Yeah.
35:10I'm still thinking it's a boy.
35:10I'm still thinking it's a boy.
35:11I'm still thinking it's a boy.
35:12So you're still thinking it's a boy?
35:14Yes.
35:15I still think it's a girl.
35:16But lucky me,
35:17I can't afford being involved in any big drama anymore.
35:20Saved by the baby.
35:22God bless.
35:24Good luck tomorrow.
35:26We'll be praying for you.
35:28See you later.
35:29Oh, they're here.
35:30I am sweating.
35:31It's like really not any of our business,
35:33but we've been brought into it.
35:34I know.
35:35No, that's what I feel like right now.
35:36I'm like, I'm going to throw up.
35:37Like, I shouldn't be in this conversation.
35:39I know.
35:40Today, Jen and Zach are coming over.
35:42Jen unexpectedly reached out to Demi and I.
35:45And I'm wondering if it's about our conversations
35:47about our relationship.
35:48I'm like, I don't know.
35:49I don't know.
35:50I don't know.
35:50I don't know.
35:51I don't know.
35:52I don't know.
35:53I don't know.
35:54I don't know.
35:55I don't know.
35:55I don't know.
35:56I don't know.
35:57I don't know.
35:58I don't know.
35:59Our conversation was Zach.
36:00I only have Jen's perspective.
36:01I don't know what you guys have or haven't done.
36:03Sounds like a pattern.
36:04We've only had Jen's perspective too on you.
36:06And it seems like it's not matching up.
36:08I think all of us left confused
36:10and wondering what the truth was
36:12because Jen's telling him one thing and us another.
36:15Between Miranda and Jen,
36:16we seem to be dealing with so many lies and mom talk lately.
36:19And that's not a good feeling.
36:21You're going to wait for me?
36:23Sorry.
36:24Not wasting time.
36:26Okay.
36:27Do we wave?
36:29This is so comfy.
36:30I hate it.
36:35You look cute.
36:36You look all dressy.
36:37I definitely hurt hearing that Jesse
36:40and Demi were talking negatively about me to my husband.
36:45It makes me question if they're really on my side
36:48and if they really support me as a friend.
36:50If they have an issue with me,
36:51I would like them to confront that.
36:55Where is everyone at now?
36:56I just told Jen the truth.
36:57I told her, yeah, the girls basically said,
36:59when you're with them, you're talking bad about me.
37:02I guess we could just start there.
37:04Do you feel like you've only heard negative from me?
37:06Because I feel like the past six months,
37:08all I've talked about is the progress that we've made.
37:10I mean, I've had moments where I've confided in you
37:12because I trust you, but my truth is,
37:14our relationship is up and down.
37:16I don't feel like it's correct for you to say
37:20that all I've ever said was negative things.
37:24It's interesting to me that Jen is so upset
37:26with the involvement of everyone in her marriage
37:29when she was the one that brought everyone
37:31into her marriage and into those problems.
37:34We definitely still have our tough days
37:36where we just aren't on the same page.
37:38He just started questioning me and my character.
37:41It's just so frustrating.
37:44This could be the difference between us
37:46either breaking generational trauma or me leaving him.
37:50You are putting all of this out to the world
37:52and then you're getting upset when we have opinions.
37:55Our opinion is being formed by what we're hearing
37:57is what we were saying.
37:58I was being told that you gambled money
37:59that was being given to you by family,
38:01which apparently is not true,
38:03which I would like clarification on that
38:05because I would have never said that
38:06if that wasn't told to me.
38:07He, I mean, maybe you want to clarify.
38:11That I, babe.
38:13Okay, I mean, we can get into that if that's what you want,
38:15but I would appreciate if you would just tell them the truth
38:18and that is not the truth.
38:20No, he didn't gamble money that his parents sent us.
38:23Had I gambled money behind Jen's back?
38:25Yes.
38:26And had I sports bet behind her back?
38:27But I think I had clarified, I don't remember telling you.
38:30What the fuck, Jen?
38:32Zach didn't gamble away the money
38:34that was given to him for medical school?
38:36That was a big reason why we all were so worried about her
38:39and her relationship.
38:41I don't even know what to believe right now.
38:45If you had the right intentions,
38:47you wouldn't have been in this situation.
38:49You wouldn't have been,
38:50continue to talk bad about my relationship.
38:54Every conversation we have, am I not?
38:57Trust your gut, do what's best for you.
38:59Am I ever like, leave his ass?
39:00He's a horrible person.
39:02I'm majority of the time, team, figure it out.
39:06Team, marriage, yes or no?
39:08I know from your guys' perspective,
39:10you think you guys have been good friends to Jen,
39:11but in her reality, she doesn't feel that way.
39:14I didn't feel like anyone was there for me.
39:16There were, I sent you a text that said,
39:18I have a feeling that I should check in on you right now.
39:19I love you.
39:20I hope you're doing okay.
39:21I also sent you a voice memo and said, I love you.
39:23I hope you're doing okay.
39:24And you kind of like ghost us.
39:26Like you don't really-
39:27No, I disagree because after Vegas-
39:28You can't disagree, it's a fact.
39:29I checked in on you, Jen.
39:32I literally, oh my God.
39:33I am gonna lose my mind.
39:37I have reached out to her multiple times.
39:38I've sent her voice memos, texts.
39:40She would respond to me like four or five days later,
39:42just like, thanks, love you.
39:44So to say I wasn't there is a lie.
39:47You chose to remove yourself, but rightfully so,
39:50because I confided with you as a friend that I trusted.
39:53I didn't expect that you were going
39:54to then exploit this information.
39:56And then you told the whole group
39:58and then it was the whole group against me.
40:00How could I turn to you after that?
40:02If you had come to me,
40:03because you have, after Italy, you did come to me
40:06and I could easily talk about that,
40:07which I'm not going to.
40:08About what?
40:10Just everything that happened in Italy.
40:12What happened in Italy?
40:14Well, just how after Italy, Brett was crying to you and-
40:18No, he wasn't.
40:19Is that not the hotel room?
40:20He was like, you have nothing to worry about.
40:23Some of the girls and I took a trip to Italy
40:26to go to Vanderpump Villa.
40:28And one of the guys specifically, Marciano,
40:30was like super flirtatious.
40:32And I felt like I handled it the best that I could.
40:34Truly did nothing wrong.
40:36I genuinely feel like Jen is just grasping at straws.
40:38I feel like she almost like wants me to be in trouble
40:41or for there to be an issue with me and Brett.
40:44And the issue is not there.
40:46She's trying to just hide behind what's going on with her
40:49and all of the lies that she's telling
40:51that are coming to light
40:52and try to take the heat off of her.
40:56Jen, I'm not coming at your husband just to come at him.
40:59It's because I've been in a situation like this
41:01and I'm trying to be there for you because I love you.
41:04For so long, I was team Jen against Zach
41:07and now Jen's showing erratic behavior and starting to lie
41:10and showing what kind of friend she is.
41:12And I don't think that's good for mom talk.
41:14I think there's a lot of things
41:15this group needs to deal with.
41:21♪♪
41:36Okay, here comes mom.
41:37I got this outfit.
41:39Is this supposed to be like a naughty nurse or something?
41:41Yes, it's supposed to be naughty, but like it's...
41:43I'm literally like if I let go of this,
41:45like this whole thing is going to come down.
41:47You have always told me that your fantasy
41:49was for me to dress up as a doctor.
41:50So I see what you're going for.
41:53After talking to Jesse and Demi,
41:55I don't know where my friendship stands with them
41:58and if I can trust them.
42:00Oh my gosh, this is too good.
42:02But I'm definitely not going to let that stop me
42:03from going to the Halloween party.
42:05Hopefully we can just have a good time.
42:09Do you have any others?
42:10Um...
42:12This is your Halloween party,
42:13so I'm just going to be there to support.
42:14Wait, we could be JLo and Ben Affleck.
42:17He is your second cousin, so like...
42:20No, he's not.
42:20Yes.
42:22Yes.
42:22Okay, if that's what you want to keep telling people.
42:25I mean, that's what your family told me.
42:27That is not true.
42:28Yes, it is true.
42:30Okay.
42:31I think the whole Ben Affleck thing is hilarious.
42:33I feel like if anyone was related to Ben Affleck,
42:35that's something they imagined.
42:37With Zach, he's just trying to squash it,
42:41even though his family did tell me that.
42:43What do you mean you're not related?
42:45Why are you sitting like this is a face-off?
42:47Because it is a face-off.
42:48You're not going to make me feel stupid.
42:50I'm not going to get into this.
42:51If that's what you were...
42:52Wait a second, you're not going to make me feel stupid
42:54when that's all I've been told from your family.
42:56I had told you for months.
42:58Do you...
42:58But do you truly know if that's true or not?
43:00No, and I never claimed that either, babe.
43:02I told you...
43:03But have you heard that from your family?
43:05Are you going to let me speak or not?
43:06No, have you heard that from your family, yes or no?
43:08I've heard that as a joke.
43:10As no, not as a joke.
43:10No one's ever claimed to have some relationship with him,
43:13besides you, babe.
43:14How do you jokingly say that to someone
43:16when they're being married into a family?
43:19I have no idea if I am or am not related to Ben Affleck.
43:23And that had been like a running joke in my family.
43:26It had never been something serious.
43:27And so when Jen started telling people that,
43:30I did tell her, I don't think you should say that anymore.
43:33I think that's probably going to backfire.
43:35Your grandpa was like, yes, like we have met them before,
43:38like a long time ago when he was little or something.
43:41I had also heard that.
43:42You were there.
43:43I had heard that.
43:44So then don't make me feel crazy.
43:45I'm not making you feel crazy.
43:46I'm just saying you ran with it when I said,
43:48Jen...
43:49Of course I ran with that.
43:50I'm second cousins with Ben Affleck.
43:52You're not.
43:53Or maybe you are.
43:53I don't know.
43:54We don't know.
43:55I feel like this is Jen's battle.
43:56And I guess I'll just leave that for Jen
43:59to share her perspective.
44:02But I'm excited for the Halloween party.
44:05I want to show Jen how much I support her.
44:07Even though I don't fully trust Demi and Jessie,
44:09I'm just going to move forward knowing where everyone stands.
44:13Anyways, back to the Halloween costume.
44:15I think that's what we should be for Halloween.
44:16How are you feeling about tonight?
44:18With like, I mean, with Demi and Jessie.
44:21I'm going to these parties to support you.
44:24And like, this is a group that you want to be associated
44:26with, therefore I'm going to be there and be positive.
44:29The conversation with them was, was tough.
44:32But again, I don't want to continue to do this with them.
44:34I'm trying to leave this up to you.
44:36It's your decision to decide if they're good friends or not.
44:41♪♪♪
44:56Do I look like J-Lo?
45:00Nice.
45:01Do you like it?
45:03You look so good.
45:05You look like Ben Affleck.
45:07Oh my gosh, this looks so good.
45:10So tonight's the Halloween party.
45:11I'm really excited to have everyone over to my new home.
45:14Jordan and I decided to dress up as Ben Affleck and J-Lo.
45:18Jen and Zach are probably not going to be too happy
45:20about this, but how was I supposed to know
45:22we were going to have a big fight before the party?
45:25Ha ha ha ha.
45:26♪♪♪
45:28Make you feel good, don't it?
45:29I cannot.
45:31You look so hot.
45:33You can still freak out.
45:34I'm so screwed.
45:36You look so good.
45:38Yeah?
45:39I'm super excited because I'm bringing
45:40my boyfriend Cameron tonight.
45:41This is the first time he's going to be around
45:43all of MomTalk and I'm really excited for him
45:45to kind of just get integrated into the group.
45:47Come get a drink.
45:48We have food.
45:49We have soda.
45:50Hello.
45:52Thank you for coming.
45:53You guys look so good.
45:56Dakota just texted me.
45:57He's almost here.
45:58Are they coming together?
46:00No.
46:01So then he called Dakota.
46:04Well, shit, dude, you know how she is.
46:05Like, I mean, when she's pissed off,
46:06dude, she's pissed off.
46:07It's not super enjoyable for me to be around her
46:10when she's angry.
46:11Well, don't be around her.
46:12It's a big party.
46:14You guys have a baby together.
46:15You could be at a party together.
46:16Like, come on.
46:17They need to grow the hell up.
46:18♪♪♪
46:23Taylor's here.
46:24Taylor's here.
46:25Taylor's here.
46:26Okay, Taylor's coming in.
46:27You look so hot.
46:30Do you know who I am?
46:31Let me see.
46:32Look at me and him together.
46:33Am I an idiot?
46:34J-Lo and Ben Affleck.
46:37You're kidding.
46:37We're gonna roast Jen and Zach.
46:39You assholes.
46:40♪♪♪
46:45Hello.
46:46♪♪♪
46:49This is unreal.
46:51♪♪♪
46:54Is your ass out?
46:56Whoa!
46:57Hey!
46:58Oh, hi.
47:00You know Dakota's coming, right?
47:01It's just funny, because I, like,
47:03I knew he was gonna come regardless.
47:05Really?
47:05You did?
47:06There's no way he's not coming.
47:08Well, I'm like, Chase is coming.
47:10I don't know what Jessie was thinking,
47:12but she invited Dakota, Miranda, and Chase, her ex-husband.
47:16These are people that I am not getting along with,
47:18haven't gotten along with,
47:19so I feel like this is gonna be miserable.
47:21All I see is chaos.
47:23My friend who's dating Chase,
47:24she was like, I tried to test him,
47:26and I was like, oh, I'm really nervous.
47:28I don't think we should go.
47:28And he's like, no, we have to go.
47:30Like, he wants to come so bad.
47:31He's such a freak.
47:37I am so glad that I got invited to Jessie's Halloween party.
47:40I just think that it's another opportunity
47:42for me to connect with everyone
47:44and hopefully deepen those relationships.
47:46Maybe if I'm lucky,
47:47I can get in the good graces of these girls
47:49and potentially be back in long talk.
47:55Oh, Jenna's back right there.
47:57Hell yeah.
48:00Hey, guys!
48:00Hi!
48:01I'm hot this way.
48:02This is hot.
48:03Wait, so we have J-Lo and Ben Affleck
48:06and then J-Lo and a Ben Affleck?
48:07Yes.
48:07I freaking love it.
48:10Jessie likes to start shit, clearly.
48:13I think that this is another jab at Jenna and I's expense,
48:17and I'm just not really sure
48:19why she feels the need to do that.
48:23Dakota!
48:24Dakota!
48:28What is he?
48:29He's a bus?
48:30He's the bus?
48:31He's a school bus.
48:32He's a school bus.
48:33I don't get it.
48:34Yeah.
48:35I had the brilliant idea for Dakota to be the bus
48:37that hits Regina George.
48:41Excuse me, I'm sick.
48:42Have you seen Dakota yet?
48:44No.
48:45He's here.
48:46Is he?
48:47He can come say hi to me.
48:48Yeah, he can come to you.
48:48Yeah, I don't go to them.
48:49Like, don't bring him over here.
48:52Who's gonna come in next?
48:53I'm stressed.
48:55I'm getting, like, anxious.
48:56No, it's safe.
48:58I really don't know why Jessie decided
48:59to invite all these people,
49:01because we have all the former swingers in the same room.
49:04It's just gonna be a shit show.
49:05I have a feeling that it's gonna be bad.
49:08Chase is coming in.
49:10Oh, wait, and Dakota's right there by the door.
49:14I don't like this.
49:16I have a feeling that stuff is about to go down tonight.
49:19Hey, your best friend's here.
49:20Hey, your best friend's pulling up.
49:25♪ If you see me coming, I'm about to get a start. ♪
49:28Oh, I'm so excited.
49:30I can't, you look so good, Shailene.
49:32It's perfect.
49:34Your house is beautiful.
49:35It's a classic look, Shailene.
49:36That's what I am.
49:37I just came as me.
49:38I knew it, I knew it.
49:40No, this is iconic, this is so good.
49:42Don't look.
49:43I know.
49:44Don't look.
49:45I'm not.
49:46There's a douchebag behind you.
49:47How many?
49:48A lot.
49:51Chase is my ex-husband,
49:54and Kate is his girlfriend.
49:56She's great, I love her.
49:57I have a good relationship with Chase as well,
50:00but do I want him here at this party?
50:02No.
50:03♪ Go, go, go, go, like an animal. ♪
50:07There's Dakota.
50:08What's up, bro?
50:09Oh, shit, what's up, dude?
50:12What's up?
50:13How you doing?
50:14Dude, how are you doing?
50:15Dude, good, how are you?
50:16Who walks up to me?
50:17Chase.
50:18He comes up and gives me a hug.
50:20I thought it was weird,
50:21but Taylor's already pissed at me,
50:24so I'm trying to be cordial with everyone tonight
50:25and not cause problems,
50:27and so this is the first time where I was like,
50:30okay, I'm gonna be like super nice.
50:31How's being dad?
50:33Dude, the best thing ever, bro.
50:35Seriously, it's the coolest experience
50:37I've ever had in my life.
50:38Is anything happening back there?
50:40Like, who's talking to who?
50:41Like, no, they're fully talking.
50:42Who?
50:43Dakota and Chase?
50:44Dakota and Chase are fully talking.
50:44I don't know what they're saying.
50:45What are they saying?
50:46Look at them.
50:47No, they're like giggling.
50:48They're giggling.
50:49They're laughing about shit.
50:49About the fuck what?
50:50Dude, I don't know what Taylor thinks,
50:52but at the end of the day,
50:53I don't get why we fucking hate each other.
50:55Did you ask Taylor, though, if I ever fucked her?
50:57Because the answer's no.
50:58Yeah, I know.
50:58And anything happen outside of spin the bottle, no.
51:01I know.
51:02But everyone in the world thinks I fuck her.
51:03I know.
51:04This is sugary.
51:10When Taylor first went online,
51:12I hadn't told my parents at this point,
51:13and again, I'm a returned missionary,
51:15married in a temple,
51:16so I hadn't told them that I had left the church.
51:18Yeah.
51:19So for us, it was like, oh, deny, deny, deny.
51:20Yeah.
51:22I wish I could go back, dude.
51:23I've changed that 10 out of 10 times.
51:23Right.
51:24And I wish that's what I could tell Taylor
51:25and her family is like, look,
51:26I wasn't trying to hate on you.
51:28Yeah.
51:29But the cheating situation was only you.
51:31Chase, he is like pointing and like talking.
51:34Like, I can just tell he's like talking about me.
51:36He keeps pointing at me.
51:37Like, it's triggering, and I'm livid.
51:40Jessie, wait, that's-
51:40Excuse me.
51:41Down there to the right.
51:42Sorry.
51:43Uh-oh.
51:44Because they were pointing at her.
51:45Yeah.
51:45I would feel it too.
51:47It was lying?
51:47What's wrong?
51:48Hi, what are you asking about?
51:49How are you doing?
51:50We're talking about everything.
51:51He was pointing at me, so-
51:52Oh, he was saying-
51:53Because we're talking about you.
51:54Good things.
51:54Yeah, so what are you talking about?
51:55The whole thing.
51:56Yeah.
51:57Okay, I'll let Chase say it then.
51:58Yeah, I was saying, at the end of the day,
51:59when people ask me about you and my opinion of you,
52:02I say 98% of my interactions with Taylor
52:05are extremely positive.
52:06Aspen, your mom, your dad.
52:09I fucking love, I love you guys.
52:11But also, you bring up the lowest point of my life,
52:14so I, in return, bring up the lowest point of yours.
52:16What was your lowest point?
52:17But I don't want to.
52:18What was your lowest point?
52:19When you announced that we were swingers
52:19to the whole universe.
52:21That's your lowest point of your life?
52:22Are you sure?
52:23Yeah.
52:25Look at her turning her head, too, dude.
52:26How do you know what she's like
52:28in case she's like, eh?
52:29What do you think's lower than that?
52:30I won't say it, for your sake.
52:32Well, don't bring it up and then not say it.
52:34I'll do whatever the fuck I want.
52:35I know, I'm just saying.
52:36Don't tell me what to do.
52:37Maybe we should go stand over there.
52:39I actually haven't gotten a drink yet.
52:42Let me explain that.
52:43I want to hear that, too.
52:43No, go.
52:44Go, I want to hear that.
52:46Hey, I actually want to hear that.
52:47Damn, they look like they're, like, heated.
52:49Are we doing all truth for truth right now?
52:52Are we doing truth for truth?
52:52Go for it.
52:53Did you tell me at the gym you had a sex dream about me?
52:55Yeah.
52:56Okay, say that right there.
52:57Hey, they already know that.
52:58I've already talked about that.
52:59Had a sex dream.
53:00Oh, I'm glad, it took two and a half years
53:01to bring that up.
53:02Anything else, anything else?
53:03Why did it take two and a half years?
53:04It didn't.
53:05What did you tell me at the gym?
53:06What did I tell you at the gym?
53:07Yeah, what did you tell me at the gym?
53:08I said I also had a sex dream.
53:10No.
53:11No, okay, let's do truth for truth.
53:12Yeah, fucking awkward, this is for real.
53:14Tell me what you told me at the gym.
53:15That's exactly what I told you.
53:17Are you sure?
53:18We're not doing truth for truth then.
53:19There you go.
53:20Look at him, look at him.
53:21You can tell he's lying.
53:22Did you or not?
53:23No, I never said that.
53:24That whole thing.
53:24Okay, you can just tell he's lying right there.
53:25Dude, I do.
53:26I feel like he just lied right there.
53:27You can see it in you.
53:28I'm not lying.
53:29Why didn't you tell him the truth?
53:29Where is Jesse's phone book?
53:30Jordan and Jesse and Demi and Brett went upstairs.
53:33What do we?
53:34Okay, guys, change, hurry.
53:36How are we feeling?
53:37What's?
53:39Absolutely terrified, but just gonna lean into it
53:41like you've never seen before.
53:43Guys, I'm like nervously like getting.
53:44Why am I nervous?
53:45Because there's a lot going on down there.
53:48I told you what happened at the gym.
53:49I already told you that.
53:50You just said a sex dream.
53:51That's not true.
53:52Yes, that is true.
53:55And I'll tell you what else happened too.
53:57What do you mean listen to a lie?
53:58I'm not trying to listen to you.
53:59I can't tell you.
54:00This is a thing.
54:01This is on the internet.
54:02I'm just saying, I'm trying to just let him talk to you.
54:05I'm not a part of this.
54:06One, two, three, four.
54:09So stop making it seem like.
54:10He just started it with a sex dream
54:11that was out of nowhere.
54:12Taylor, I just found out about that freaking
54:15two weeks ago, a month ago.
54:17You never told me that.
54:18Oh, you never told him that?
54:19That's crazy.
54:20No, she let that out too.
54:22Who said are you on Dakota?
54:24I don't care if you believe whatever.
54:26If you're my partner, you have my back
54:28and then you discuss it at home.
54:30I feel like so betrayed.
54:31If he's saying that, then why should I not believe him?
54:33Why would you believe him?
54:36He's yelling.
54:37That's not true.
54:37This is the crazy.
54:38Dakota, he just bit your face.
54:41Taylor, Taylor, I had a sex dream about you.
54:43That just came out of nowhere
54:44to your fucking lying mouth.
54:45Your boyfriend's a fucking liar.
54:46It's fucking sick.
54:48I don't know what's going on.
54:49I never said that.
54:50I want you to hold my shit, really stupid.
54:53He just looked you in the fucking eye
54:54and said he didn't have feelings for me.
54:55You saw his face change.
54:56I'm trying to just.
54:57Wait, Taylor, isn't it crazy?
54:58Fuck you, fuck you.
55:00You're a liar.
55:07Jesse, the police are here.
55:08No.
55:09No, just touch my wife.
55:11Take ownership.
55:12Take ownership right now.
55:16What the hell's about to happen?
55:22This is our marriage.
55:23This isn't a game.
55:24I can't do this.
55:25Will you please cut the camera?
55:27I don't want to get it twisted.
55:29The height of what I was involved in was kissing people.
55:32You did do more than just kiss.
55:34Like if you're going to come into mom talk,
55:36be open and honest,
55:37because if you're not, I will clear the air.
55:40I just want to move on.