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'Smoot-Hawley Tariffs, Which Caused A Recession, Were Only 20%': Maria Cantwell Slams Trump's 30% Tariffs
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5/15/2025
During a Senate Finance Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) spoke about President Trump's 30% tariffs on China.
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Senator. Thank you, Senator. Senator Catwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the witnesses,
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today's hearing has already been sobering and also illuminating on about what a better path
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forward is. Sobering because you're talking about the cost that we still are being impacted by.
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And I think the first thing to remember is that we're still at a 30% tariff right now
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on many products. And so that is costing us. I think with all that happy talk about, well,
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we decided to pull the gun from the business head related to the 125% plus tariffs. The fact
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remains we still have a 30% tariff on products from China. In fact, it's higher than that, 50 or 60%
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on steel and aluminum. So the point is the Smoot-Hawley tariffs, which caused a recession,
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were only 20%. So here we are still in a world of uncertainty with a 30% tariff. Now, Mr. Ragland,
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do you know where Calama, Washington is? It's in the state of Washington, but I don't know
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specifically. It just happens to be the second largest port for export of soybeans in the United
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States of America. So I pay attention to soybeans. I sure do. And the fact that the last Trump
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administration trade war, you were at 62% market share in China competing with Brazil. And he
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plummeted you down to 18%. And then somehow you were going to get the Chinese to cooperate or do
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something, which they didn't. And guess what? You never recovered. 52%. You never got back to the 62%
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high. Because the trade war, as you said in your testimony, created havoc and uncertainty and all
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that hard work of all you people going over and getting markets open, you never recovered.
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So why are we going to continue this trade war when we know what the results were last time?
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So now what I'm hearing, and you're verifying in your testimony, Mr. Isaacson, is that semiconductor costs
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are up. That's the input to building and manufacturing semiconductors. We worked hard,
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Senator Cornyn and I and many other people, to get that bill, the Chips and Science Act done.
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We sure has hacked. We also gave them a NEPA exemption. So we don't want semiconductor inputs
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to be more expensive. We don't want motor vehicle parts, which are now 9.3% more expensive, and computer
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and electronics. So you all talked about supply chain chaos today, and that's the point. I don't
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think somebody told the president, our supply chain, even post his last administration, is so much more
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integrated today than it was before. And when you cause supply chain chaos, as you were saying,
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Mr. Isaacson, then it leaves us behind in the foot race when we should be opening up market share.
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So how many trade agreements has the world done in the last, since 2017? How many have our partners
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around the globe done? Ninety. Ninety trade agreements. Ninety. How many did we do? One. We updated the
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USMCA. So I represent a very trade dependent part of the United States of America. I support more
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trade. I support getting trade deals done. I don't support the disruption and chaos that this is
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causing. So Mr. Isaacson, I have a question for you. You basically, well first of all, Mr. Raglan, if we
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proceed with where we are, we don't get these tariffs off, will we lose farmers in America? Will we lose actual
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farmers in America? Yes. That is a very harsh reality. The farm economy is struggling. I mean,
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I'm a younger farmer. I know farmers that have went out of business. There's bankruptcies taking
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place. I know older farmers who are choosing to leave the industry because of the limited economic
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opportunity. They don't want to lose what they've worked their whole lives for. And so Mr. Isaacson,
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you're saying that we should be going in the opposite direction, that we should be building
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alliances around semiconductor supply chains and development and that that would enhance the
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United States. Because right now you're saying that serious harm is being caused to the semiconductor
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industry because of these tariffs. Well, I think the first option is to build it here
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and strengthen the US supply chain. But the fact of the matter is that it's a global supply chain
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and that's a part of our strength as an industry and therefore we should make sure we have secure
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access to key inputs from a diversity of trading partners around the world. And that is essential
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to our ability to innovate and compete globally. And you're saying in your testimony we could even do
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this better with a bigger sectoral approach. That's correct. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Thank you. Senator.
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