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  • 5/14/2025
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00:00Yeah, and that's perhaps why the word reciprocity was the word that stood out for me in a piece
00:05that was written in the New York Times, an interview, I should say, with Saudi Arabia's
00:11ambassador to the United States, Princess Sreema Bandar. I mean, this theme of a two-way
00:17exchange, mutually beneficial agreements, seems to be quite a recurrent theme, doesn't
00:22it, surrounding this trip?
00:23Oh, indeed. And I think maybe in another term that usually that's thrown around a lot is
00:37transactionality. And I think a lot of the times that when we treat transactionality in a negative
00:43sense, it obviously has a damper on the relationship. But I think what the princess has been trying to
00:50say, or what I get that she was saying, was that there is a positive transactionality. And then
00:56when there is a transactionality that makes sense for both countries, then it has to be a win-win.
01:04And it's very interesting to see that an American-first approach is actually converging
01:11with a Saudi-first approach. And then when you have this kind of two-nation-first approaches
01:16meet, this is the kind of result that it will produce. And of course, it's also the beginning
01:26of many things. I think this is really the beginning of a great deal of development and developing
01:34and into each other's economies.

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