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  • 5/13/2025
Where do the #Celtics go from here? What should they do in offseason? #NBA
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00:00is sean from montana hey sean what's up hello and uh good morning thanks for taking my call
00:07on this uh tuesday morning um you know i i just i think what i heard before uh when i was calling
00:14in as i was listening to the fact about like okay if they end up losing tatum for the rest of the
00:21series and for next year biggest question would be for brad stevens would be like where do you go
00:27from here i mean what moves would you make i mean we've heard reports that this team if they lose
00:32this series could be breaking up their core this summer and stuff too so that's another big question
00:37another question i get you know that i mean because you're smarter than i am and other people are i
00:42mean i'm smart too i mean i'm not trying to brag i'm just trying to be neutral being respectful for
00:46everybody else but the other thing the other thing i can say too is well then what does that do for
00:51joe missoula you've had people that have been wanting him to be fired if they lose this series
00:56i don't see missoula getting fired though but honestly the future of the celtics looks you know
01:02bright but again next year uh let's say they make the playoffs without tatum you wouldn't expect maybe
01:07by this time next year for a deep run i mean i gotta say this too and everybody i think would come in
01:12general agreement right now it's been very frustrating with boston sports in general like
01:17the red socks are dealing with the rafael devers drama that's going on the boston bruins are facing
01:22uncertainty the boston celtics of course getting hit with this massive blow about tatum and then
01:28you know the patriots have done well with drafting well but it's really sad because we want to keep
01:33these teams on top we want as fans we want to see them succeed and stuff too but it's just you get so
01:38sick of the drama and then of course lastly the injuries and stuff too but as a celtic fan i i can tell
01:44you i'm not really sure real quickly about how if they're going to win game five tomorrow i hope they do
01:50but i don't know that's just like uh tatum's blow hurts sean you make you made some great points
01:57and ask some great questions i curtis said earlier he thinks the celtics win this game tomorrow night
02:01so i do uh that's good curtis i also heard you yesterday on the way to the airport saying that
02:06you think missoula would lose his job but that but he saved but that injury that injury saved his job
02:11probably if it don't yeah yeah probably um so i think you know curtis listen if they were bounced in
02:18the second round by this next team um and there and there wasn't the tatum injury then i all
02:26everything would be on the table when it comes to joe missoula because it's it would be a you know
02:31a shocking exit from the but but now but i don't i missoula has an out i think on this i i agree but i would
02:39just go back to go so starting with emay's year here the celtics get to the nba finals with marcus
02:46smart on a roster that we all believe is not as talented as this one correct right yeah okay the
02:52next year missoula's first year they reach the conference final and lose to an inferior miami heat
02:58team then they win a championship and then the next year they lose in the second round to an inferior
03:05knicks team that is not a great track record without marcus smart and adding holiday and
03:11porzingis and all of these guys when wiki and i both said at the time that what unlocked jalen and
03:17jason more than anything was the departure of marcus smart and so for missoula in three years as the
03:22head coach to reach one finals that to me would be a disappointment but when it comes to coaching this
03:28team and looking specifically at last night uh-huh like you shouldn't have to you don't have to coach
03:35nba guys on playing defense i mean i i know none of them want to do it uh-huh but there was there was
03:42nothing on that side of the ball last night from the celtic yeah they they definitely like i mean we
03:47talked about jason jason tatum stole the ball a bunch of steals last night i i fine but they could not
03:53those knicks had 40 plus points they had to have had 40 plus points in the paint last night yeah
04:00they had too many like pick and rolls that led to easy layups because or just like easy layups and
04:05the offensive rebounds yeah they gave up they gave up a ton of offensive rebounds which led to
04:10so frustrating second and third chance what about the third quarters the third quarters this entire
04:15series where you're coming out of halftime you have time to figure things out and tibodeau was dunked
04:21on missoula with his three strands of oddly greased hair see i would run i would i would run a blitz at
04:27jaylen brunson anytime he gets the ball and say okay he's not going to have 18 points in the third
04:32quarter i'm going to run a blitz at him and mikhail bridges kyle anthony towns josh hart like those other
04:39guys oh uh og um and anobi those guys are going to have to beat me but i think the bigger picture is
04:46now as we sit here and we wait for the tatum outcome is where does this team go because yeah
04:56i mean i'm like everybody else i'm i'm wishing on a prayer that they can win this series but i think
05:02it's going to be extremely difficult to do it it's going to be tough maybe they win game five just
05:06pure momentum they shoot the ball well but then they go back to new york and lose this series
05:10where do you go from here especially with a new owner and all that money if they had the same owner
05:18maybe wick goes i'm willing to spend that money i'm willing to and curtis always talks about it i'm
05:24willing to be in this new penalty luxury tax for two years but where do you go from here billy chisholm
05:30doesn't want to come in here and start a rebuild either yeah because if you do that yeah okay so we
05:34don't see tatum next year say worst case scenario we don't see him next year now you want tatum coming
05:39back to a completely new team but are you going to bring everybody back are you going to bring
05:43porzingis back no holiday back derrick white back pritchard back and i mean obviously jalen brown
05:49well is that going to be your team that you run it back uh with tatum maybe shelled for next year
05:55and you're paying that high amount of money although and then i guess you can ask the question
06:00about is joe missoula the right guy to run it back with but here's what last night meant greg and
06:05the reason it was so demoralizing it's the end of this season's championship hopes i believe
06:10and this enables the new management team to get under that apron because without tatum
06:17you're not going to be nearly as dominant next year so porzingis given his playoff performance you
06:23know whatever i think that there's no shot they're in the second apron next year especially now with
06:29tatum done for likely parts of next season because the new owner says you know what i we're not
06:33going to have tatum next year the chances of winning winning the championship a slim so here's
06:38what we're going to do we're going to clean the slate clean financially and then we're going to
06:42prepare for when tatum comes back the following year when he's good to go when he's healthy and now
06:48what does that team look like this new team look like it's just shocking to be in this position
06:54when a couple weeks ago right you were you were certain that it was a repeat a repeat in a dynasty
07:00and then figuring like we were talking about all right if they go back to back maybe it's a little
07:04bit easier to move on from some of those plays or maybe it's harder to move on from those plays but
07:09right now without tatum that's the biggest thing if it comes back and he's done for next year and the
07:17playoffs this year yeah if you have a new owner just to be clear because i keep seeing text messages
07:21about it when we talk about jason tatum he he has the mri today right we're not saying that he's done
07:28but it seems more than likely that he's i mean he would he would get up yes like you know whether
07:37joe mazula was telling him to get up or not he would get up and after how big of a deal everybody
07:41made about him being a baby the last time just a few weeks ago he would try his absolute hardest
07:47to get up he there is that was bad he stayed on the floor for a little while when on the wrist again
07:52yeah right but he was like you know right but that's he does but that's like an injury that
07:58that's like an injury that you re-aggravate during the game you get up you go back to the line but
08:02this was an injury that a you could tell in his facial expression like um b the way it was a non-contact
08:11injury because if it's an ankle injury and he lands on somebody's foot you can go okay maybe he has a
08:16severe ankle sprain and then when he's in the back and they're they're wailing him in the wheelchair
08:20and he's crying and then to listen to jaylen brown oh it wasn't jaylen brown who was the person that
08:25reported that it was like the vibe was was totally different that's jaylen who was talking about in
08:32the locker room we talked about that it was like a quiet locker room that was brian windhorse you said
08:37that yeah so you know like as a player like if i'm in that locker room the first thing i'm doing
08:42is i'll be like yo jay what's up you know what i mean like hey what what's going on with jt how
08:47and guys have been around that they've probably seen guys hurt their achilles and maybe word gets
08:52around it's like it doesn't look good and so now the vibe is like demoralizing because you know what
09:00the outcome potentially i thought it was unseemly that after the injury mike breen and doris burke high
09:06fived did you see that that was a little bit i don't know i wouldn't have done that but i honestly
09:11guys this just sucks because to be where they are with the way the east has unfolded they were
09:17going to if they win that game last night they win the series in six or seven they get to the finals
09:22again and you have a shot at back to back and now the entire future is up in the air and i would just
09:28like to hear from someone explain to me why joe mazula deserves to be not saying he should be fine but
09:33what has he done well this series especially against thibodeau because you're down three games to one
09:39even without tatum you're a more talented team than the knicks would you guys agree with that
09:43yes i mean you don't think it's a brilliant strategy curtis to go out and foul a guy because
09:48he's not good at the line i mean that's sheer when they're not even that's sheer brilliance
09:52again get your get your team into the bonus they'll give him they'll give mazula one more
09:57year because of the tatum injury but then but even then now oh are you turning on him no no no you
10:03you call them the best coach i said he's being out coached but i i don't think that the team is
10:09going to pull the plug on him one year after he won a chip granted they haven't lived up to and i said
10:15this would be the biggest choke job in my opinion for a boston sports team that our expectations were
10:21so high on but i think they'll probably give him one more year but even if they give him one more year
10:25the ownership group it's like you're getting a team that your best player isn't going to be there
10:31so how good could you possibly be so we talked a little bit about this because curtis was comparing
10:37it to simply to to new york teams but who's in your conversation when it comes to so you're talking
10:44expectation yep which is celtics repeat yep they did it with ease last they won it with ease last year
10:50yep and they should repeat with ease this year yep you're talking expectation and then choke
10:55yep who else is in that conversation for you oh man patriots losing i would say patriots 07 was a
11:03huge choke job losing to the giants i would say the expectations of that bruins record season going
11:11into the season they'd be good i think it would be a choke job that they lost but it's not a bigger
11:16choke job than a team that's coming off a championship right uh ruins on that stanley cup run that was a
11:21choke i would say this i i wouldn't necessarily say that what you mean when they got to game seven
11:27yeah yeah that was a massive choke i was at the grand waiting for the after party it was a massive
11:32i wouldn't say the team but the the uh 2000 and uh uh 2011 celtics when they lost to the lakers
11:45and game seven they had a 10 point lead in the second yes where uh where at the time you know
11:53we know him as ron art test but i think it was meta world peace basically you know put that team on
11:58the back and when colby couldn't throw the ball i would say that's a choke but i don't think there's
12:02another team that's even close where we're talking we were talking about back to back your memory works
12:07in weird ways you don't know a single co-worker's name that you work with every day but you remember
12:12the period where ron artest was meta world peace yes some names are better with others but i would
12:19ask like i i don't know if choke is the right word but upset not with ron artest it's not no
12:24uh but but yes right or latrell spree one but is curtis isn't an upset basically a choke job i i
12:30don't i don't maybe you're right i just feel like the odds entering this series ken and i did it on
12:35saturday uh the the knicks were a bigger underdog to win this series than the giants were to beat the
12:41patriots in 2007 and so for me i just and i recognize you guys are probably right missoula's
12:49not going to get fired especially now that uh tatum is hurt however simple things like inbounding plays
12:55or final shot of a quarter final shot of a game where it just appears that there is no forethought
13:03that it's just give the ball to jason tatum have him dribble 50 times and then shoot or there's no
13:10answers in these third quarters and i would love to see the composite stats of third quarter point
13:15differential through five games right and it's gonna be the knicks by 60 points it probably is
13:20and and it doesn't help missoula that games one and two you didn't get a shot up at the end of the game
13:26i mean i one and two winning those games i you know i who knows what what does or doesn't happen
13:32with jason tatum but i the that's that's a choke yeah those two at home and you didn't even get a
13:39shot up at the end of the game 20 plus no no i i that's why that's why i don't see anything else
13:44because the expectations were that to get to the nba finals all right if you lose in the nba finals to
13:50okc and they're just a better team than you all right maybe i'm not it's we're not calling it a joke
13:55job a choke job but to lose in round two to a knicks team that you're you were up by 20 in game one in
14:01game two it's like that to me is the definition of choke job

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