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"Major changes" coming for Boston Celtics?
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5/2/2025
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"Major changes" coming for Boston Celtics?
ESPN's Shams Charania via: "This iteration just is not going to be sustainable..."
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And Shams with a little buzzkill yesterday on the Pat McAfee show
00:06
and changes may be coming to the Boston Celtics.
00:10
We talked about this earlier.
00:13
But, I mean, if Jason Tatum is your guy, then it's got to be –
00:17
you're going to have to go forward with maybe one J and not both Js,
00:22
and you'll find out if Jason Tatum is the guy.
00:25
I am officially against this in any capacity.
00:27
I will not give the new ownership the pass of the new – what the CBA means.
00:31
I have the Celtics draft history right in front of me.
00:34
So you heard him say they could freeze draft picks.
00:37
Ooh, boy.
00:38
So since the Celtics drafted Jason Tatum in 2017, that is eight years ago,
00:45
there is one player that the Celtics drafted that is a contributing member to the team,
00:51
and that's Peyton Pritchard.
00:53
He was drafted 26th overall five years ago.
00:56
So if you lose your draft picks, you're going to be picking 29th or 30th every year anyway.
01:02
It doesn't matter.
01:02
I don't care.
01:03
Pay the effing tax.
01:04
Like, this team is ready-made with the best players being in the middle of their prime
01:09
or entering their prime.
01:11
I don't get – like, Wiggy is okay with it.
01:13
If they win it this year, Wiggy's okay with it.
01:17
I'm not okay with it.
01:18
Like, if you win it this year, that means, to me, you have to keep the band together.
01:24
Like, I don't think he's saying he's okay with it.
01:26
I'm not okay with it.
01:28
I'm saying that if you win it back-to-back –
01:31
It's more likely.
01:31
It's more likely, and it lessens the blow for – because you're not going from being
01:36
one of the better teams in the NBA to, all right, now they traded all these guys
01:41
and it's just Jason Tatum.
01:42
They stink.
01:42
Like, that's not going to be the thing.
01:44
The thing is going to be, he said five guys.
01:47
That's basically your five starters.
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That's the two Js, Porzingis, Derek White, and Drew Holiday.
01:54
So, in order for it to work moving forward, you as an organization have to say, okay,
02:00
do we potentially keep the Js and lose the other three?
02:04
And then we plug, you know, Pete Pritch becomes a starter.
02:07
Then we find another, you know.
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I'm just – the concept of the big three.
02:12
Right.
02:12
Wherever that is, is, I guess, maybe, not going to be something that is sustainable
02:19
in the NBA going forward because of the collective bargaining agreement.
02:23
Now, I would guess that the Lakers are going to do everything that they possibly can
02:29
to line their big three up.
02:31
Yeah, it's about – it can be done, but the owner's got to be willing to pay the taxes
02:37
and penalties and the payroll.
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But generally, you see, like, Golden State's owner did it because he knew they built a new
02:45
arena in San Francisco.
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The Lakers are able to do it because they own their arena.
02:50
This owner might say, well, we're not going to do it because guess what?
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We have to pay rent every single year, and who knows what that costs.
02:58
So that might be a factor on we need to trim some of that payroll so we can get that number
03:06
lower.
03:07
Curtis wanted us to put a poll up this morning, and we did, and 121 votes in.
03:14
And would you be okay with major changes to the Celtics roster this offseason?
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And as you would imagine, 67.8% are not okay with those changes.
03:26
I do wish we had added if they won a championship.
03:29
If they won, if it makes a difference.
03:31
Yeah, if it makes a difference.
03:32
But I'm with Greg.
03:34
But in Wiggy, I understand you saying you wouldn't be okay with it, but it does seem like you
03:37
would rather bring in a Giannis.
03:39
Yeah, that's what he wants.
03:40
Right.
03:41
No, no, but you have to do that to still be competitive.
03:44
Right?
03:44
You have to do that.
03:45
If you can't pay the starting five because they're all making over $28 million, you have
03:50
to figure out and say, okay, who are we willing to lose so we can lower that number, and then
03:57
who can we bring in to still keep us competitive to compete for a championship?
04:03
I was talking to a guy last night who loves Jason Tatum and Giannis together.
04:07
Like, if you could ever make that happen, doesn't care if that means that Jalen Brown is gone,
04:13
if that means that Kristaps Borzingis is gone, doesn't matter.
04:17
And that guy's mine.
04:18
But if you're the Celtics ownership in front office and you're Brad Stevens, you have to
04:24
start looking.
04:25
If the new owner is saying to you, we're not paying this, we have to figure it out.
04:29
You now have to look and say what's important.
04:31
And I would also say this, Greg.
04:33
Like, I don't want the media.
04:34
I know Comcast.
04:36
I know the rights holders.
04:37
I know the people out there will talk about this like it's a fait accompli.
04:41
That they have to do this to remain viable.
04:43
Unless the new owners show me their spreadsheets and say this is money we're losing, I don't
04:48
believe it.
04:49
And there's nothing you can tell me that they could do that would jeopardize this run that
04:54
was years in the making to get this collection of guys together under contract in Boston for
05:00
this period.
05:01
But to be clear with the direction that they're going to go in, they're now using the basketball
05:08
penalty portion.
05:10
Right.
05:10
The second apron.
05:11
It's not the money.
05:13
It's the penalty that the team is going to suffer.
05:16
What puts you into the second apron?
05:21
Spending money.
05:22
Yes.
05:22
Right.
05:22
So this is a rule that the owners, WIC, all the owners of the NBA put into place.
05:30
So if you say, if you go to the ATM and you take out $500 and you go out and you're gambling
05:35
and you tell Brees, we only have $500.
05:38
Yeah.
05:39
That's true.
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But you could have taken out more than $500.
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It's not the only thing you have in your bank account.
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And so I just don't believe the owners.
05:47
If you're going to tell me that you're buying this team at the top of its value at $6 billion
05:51
and your first act is to cut costs, then I say you're full of crap.
05:54
Right.
05:55
This is Bill in the car.
05:57
Bill, good morning.
05:59
Good morning, guys.
06:00
I just wanted to say that they should leave it together and just win about five or six
06:07
in a row, and then they'll be worth even more.
06:11
Yeah.
06:12
Your lips to Bill Chisholm's ears, I guess.
06:15
If Bill Chisholm had Jeff Bezos' money, maybe he doesn't.
06:18
But does it seem like, all right, if you're cutting costs, don't you look and go, okay,
06:25
well, I mean, I got money.
06:27
Don't get it twisted.
06:28
I'm not saying he don't got money.
06:29
But he's like, don't have to have funny money where Bezos is like, all right, I'm paying
06:34
the luxury tax.
06:35
Not many people do.
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I mean, it's really Bezos and Elon.
06:42
But again, like you're spending, this happens if you're going to pay the most ever for an
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NBA franchise $6 billion, then you're either going to be all in and spend whatever it takes
06:55
or you're going to find a way to make that work for you.
06:58
Because if Sham's saying it right, isn't he hearing whispers from what potentially people
07:05
in the front office of the Celtics are thinking?
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I know, kind of the way he said it, he's kind of like hearing it around the league, like
07:11
the league is saying, there's no way they can keep this going, and there's no way that
07:15
they can keep doing this.
07:16
But Curtis is right.
07:17
They can do it as long as they want.
07:18
Curtis was also right, though.
07:19
It's interesting timing for this to come out.
07:21
Of course.
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The day that they approved the sale, now we're past the point of no return.
07:25
The most plugged-in guy in the sports telling you what their plans are.
07:28
This is Scott from Westford.
07:30
Hey, Scott.
07:31
What's going on?
07:33
Good morning.
07:34
How are you?
07:34
We're doing great.
07:35
We're in Springfield, Massachusetts.
07:38
Good morning.
07:39
Love it.
07:40
Great road show attendance.
07:41
Great crowd last night at TAPS.
07:44
We're awesome.
07:45
Scott.
07:46
I can't wait to go body surfing before Bernie's again.
07:50
This will be the third one.
07:52
All right.
07:53
Excellent.
07:53
That's me.
07:53
Anyways, so I have a question, and this is a legit question for the whole room and everybody.
08:04
So all these taxes, if they spend money, obviously they're going to earn money because we're all
08:11
fans and whatnot.
08:12
But whose pockets get lined by all these fines?
08:17
Is it the commissioner?
08:19
Is it all the owners?
08:20
How does that work?
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It goes back to the league.
08:25
It's not about paying the bills.
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It's about penalizing teams.
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It's about trying to create parity.
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You know, same with the NFL.
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It's not about trying to raise funds to keep the lights on at the league office.
08:39
But it is a legal form of collusion.
08:41
Like, it's something that the owners do legally in a collective bargaining agreement to tell
08:45
players this is as much as we'll spend before we have massive penalties.
08:48
And the Celtics being ahead of this, what Wick said to us at Wachusett resonated because he
08:55
said, I don't think there will be any team that spends two years in the second apron.
09:02
And that means that they're not going to do it and they're going to cut costs.
09:05
Yeah.
09:06
Well, you better enjoy this one while you can.
09:08
Right.
09:08
Right.
09:09
So...
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