00:00And I think I think that unfortunately, a product of the social media era is that people are more nervous about what they say and where that can be picked up.
00:10There are things that people said in the music press back in the 80s that I've never heard of.
00:14I came across them in my research and I was like, I cannot believe that I've never heard of this and they never got into trouble for this.
00:20So there was more sort of freedom to speak then for sure.
00:23But that doesn't mean that people are fearing a particular lobby, a particular government.
00:28It's somehow like even relatively innocent stuff can get twisted.
00:34So I do think that there is a kind of a self censorship that is not a kind of result of some authoritarian culture, but of of across the political spectrum, the way that people behave on social media, the way that people could be ripped apart for the mildest things.
00:51And I think that does make people self censor, although I would say, for example, on the on the issue of Gaza.
00:58There are many, many artists in the UK.
01:02I know, I think probably harder in the US, but many artists in the UK and on Ireland who have spoken out in favor of Palestine.
01:11So it's not like you can't. It's not like you cannot do that.
