00:28So I should probably have cut him in on the publishing, but I did not.
00:32But it's funny how those little sayings stick with you because now I have kids and there's
00:37always something that's like, now that I've got this, I really want that.
00:40And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
00:41It's not having what you want.
00:43It's wanting what you have.
00:45Okay.
00:45So let's just remember that.
00:46And that song, actually, I wrote with my buddy.
00:49We were in New York City and he'd flown all the way from LA to write with me and I had
00:55the flu.
00:55So I was like flat on my back, not feeling well.
00:58And we write a song called Suck of the Sun.
01:00You know, the most upbeat, happy song.
01:05All right.
01:06When it comes to being lucky, he's cursed.
01:09When it comes to loving me, he's worst.
01:12The first cut is the deepest.
01:15I wish I would have written that song, but I did not write that song.
01:24Actually, it was written by Cat Stevens, but it was really made famous by Rod Stewart.
01:29And the story is, I was putting out a greatest hits record.
01:33The record label asked me to do a greatest hits, which I thought pretty much meant, okay,
01:37we're winding down here.
01:38It's the end of your career.
01:39Let's just make an album that's got all your hits on it.
01:41And we need one more single.
01:43And I'm thinking, how do you write a single for a compilation of hits?
01:47And what if it's a dud?
01:49So I wound up recording a cover of a song that I just loved.
01:54And then it did become a hit.
01:55So thank you, Lord.
01:56Okay, I like a good beer buzz early in the morning.
02:02And Billy likes to fill the labels from his bottles of blood.
02:05Yeah, I'm hoping that when it comes to poetry reading, that all second and third graders read
02:10those two lines.
02:12Yeah, that song was all I want to do.
02:14I like a good beer buzz early in the morning.
02:17I graduated from University of Missouri with a degree in classical music with a minor in
02:23elementary education, and I moved to St. Louis and was an elementary music teacher for two
02:28years in the public school system in St. Louis.
02:30And I loved it.
02:31I also was singing in bands on the weekend, and I just kind of knew that I could always
02:37come back to teaching, but that if I was going to do this thing, I needed to do it while
02:41I was untethered.
02:42So I moved to L.A.
02:44I've had several students through the years who will come to shows, and they'll yell,
02:48Kellison, which is where I taught, Kellison Elementary.
02:52Miss Crowe!
02:53Miss Crowe!
02:54Oh my God!
02:55You're like a rock star now!
02:58I was born in the South, Sometimes I Have a Big Mouth.
03:01And that is from the movie Cars, and the song was called Real Gone.
03:07I was born in the South, Sometimes I Have a Big Mouth.
03:12I got asked to write this song, and when they sent me the clip, they said it was about
03:16cars, and they're talking cars, and they're all friends, and there was no music to it
03:20and no sound effects, and it was just Owen Wilson's voice, and I didn't have kids yet,
03:24and I'm like, I don't know if I'm really the right person for this.
03:26Cut to Now, which is our most streamed song, and it is the song that my kids identify me
03:33with, so thank you.
03:35Thank you, Pixar.
03:38Well, okay, I still get stoned.
03:39I'm not the kind of girl you take home.
03:41That is from If It Makes You Happy.
03:43I'm not the kind of girl you take home.
03:47It was one of the most fun records to record, and I still call them records, but my first
03:52album came out, and it was really, really big.
03:54It sold like eight million copies, and I went in to make my second record, and you really
03:58do feel like you have the whole world kind of looking at you when you're trying to compete
04:03with a huge, successful first endeavor, and there was so much pressure, and it was just
04:08really fun to like kind of unload on this song, and to just have that chorus that's like in
04:14your face and screaming, if it makes you happy, then why the hell is it so, why the hell are
04:17you so sad?
04:18It is a weird thing to be a songwriter, because you're writing from your own experience.
04:22A lot of times it's autobiographical, but if it isn't like succinctly autobiographical,
04:27it's still your experience.
04:29And I wasn't somebody that was getting stoned all the time, but I definitely was not the
04:34prototype for a wife.
04:35I will say, doing it with Olivia was really a joy, because she gives me a lot of hope in
04:40that she's still kind of carrying the rock torch, she's writing songs that are angsty,
04:44and that really do speak to her generation, which is when I came out was what I was trying
04:48to do.
04:49So it's, you know, it was full circle for me.
04:51Getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was, it's still hard for me to summarize
05:08what that was like emotionally.
05:09I think it was a lot like having a wedding reception, where you literally, you have all
05:13the people in the room that have mattered to you, and yet you can remember very little
05:18of it.
05:18But it was just an amazing night, you know, and an opportunity to say thank you to a lot
05:21of people.
05:22Okay, I got to think about this.
05:24Well, maybe nothing lasts forever, even when you stay together.
05:30My favorite mistake?
05:31Oh, yes, the bridge.
05:32Maybe nothing lasts forever, even when you stay together.
05:34Okay, yeah.
05:35Well, maybe nothing lasts forever.
05:39It is probably the only song that when it comes on the radio, I actually will let it play,
05:45which I know sounds kind of egomaniacal.
05:47But, you know, a lot of times when you've worked on something and you know all the little
05:51ins and outs and things you hear, and you go, I wish I would have done this, or I wish
05:53I would have changed that word.
05:54This song, I don't do that with.
05:56I feel like this song was so much a gift.
05:59And in your career as a songwriter, on rare occasions, you feel like you just got lucky.
06:05You got to be in the room when inspiration was happening, and this was that song.
06:09I mean, there was so much of it that was written on the mic, that was not toiled over, that
06:14just came out in a fully realized song.
06:19And I hear that in it.
06:21I hear the sort of just total bearing of soul, and it hearkens back to all the stuff that
06:27I had loved, you know, the kind of R&B rock.
06:29So, yeah, I just feel lucky that I got to write that song.
06:34I'm just wondering why I feel so all alone, why I'm a stranger in my own life.
06:38And that is from Every Day is a Whining Road.
06:41I will say that this song was important to me because it was inspired by somebody who
06:50did actually take his own life.
06:52And I think when you lose somebody to suicide, you really start thinking about what must they
06:59have been going through when it came to that moment.
07:03And it makes you look at your own life and the sort of the fragility of it.
07:06In a weird way, that song was a letter to myself that, you know, every day may feel
07:11sometimes insurmountably impossible to get through, but all the turns in the road are
07:18taking you where it is that you're supposed to be to get the lesson or to enjoy the moment
07:22or whatever it is.
07:23And it has been an interesting thing to have that song in my back pocket because as I've
07:28played it for the last 30 years and being able to, like, share it with people, we've
07:32gone through COVID, we've gone through 9-11, we've gone through moments where we've had
07:38to sort of come together.
07:39Now we're going through mental health crises that we see with our own kids.
07:43And it just feels like a song that seems to continue to have meaning.
07:47I think the older I get, the more I realize that my hometown is so much a part of who I am.
08:14It's so much a part of how I envision raising my kids.
08:17I mean, obviously, Nashville is not a small town, but my kids have grown up in relative
08:20small town atmosphere.
08:23When I was growing up, you get on your bicycle and ride around and you had to be back by dinner.
08:27You know, your parents didn't know where you were.
08:29You didn't have cell phones.
08:30And that independence was such a part of my small town Midwestern ethos, you know, and I
08:36still feel like it's a giant part of me.
08:39Okay.
08:40I just called to say I love you.
08:43Oh, that's not my song.
08:44That was Stevie Wonder.
08:45I just called to say I love you.
08:47Come back home.
08:49Yeah, that would be Picture with Kid Rock.
08:51I just called to say I love you.
08:56Come back home.
08:59It blew up so hugely, so bigly.
09:02Can I say that?
09:03It grew up so bigly.
09:04I mean, Bobby is a blast to be around.
09:07I was getting to know him at the time and we're like, yeah, let's write a song together.
09:11And then lo and behold, we write a song that becomes like number one.
09:14And honestly, when we wrote it, I didn't really see it as being a giant song.
09:20He's like, oh, no, this is going to be a number one hit.
09:22And I'm like, I don't know.
09:25But he was right.
09:28Penthouse Saturday, Guy Who Looks Like Chalamet.
09:30That is from Alarm Clock, which is from my last record.
09:33I love Timothee Chalamet.
09:39I mean, he's so antithetical to like what I grew up with as being like rock star dude.
09:43But he was like, especially during the time of writing this song and even now everywhere,
09:48you know, and everything to every person, you know, so many different characters wrapped up in him.
09:53So much fun making the record.
09:55I worked with Mike Elizondo, who's a dear friend for years and years and wrote this with a young songwriter that he introduced me to named Emily Wise Band.
10:04And we wrote it in a day and recorded it.
10:06And it was just it was so much fun.
10:07I came in and I was like, look, I want to write a song about how I hate my alarm clock.
10:11Because as soon as it goes off, whatever I'm dreaming has just ended.
10:15And that feels like a metaphor for life.
10:17You know, you have those alarm clocks where all of a sudden you're thrown into the reality.
10:21And, you know, by the end of the day, it was like, boom, it's done.
