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00:00Some days, maybe I did, maybe I didn't, it didn't matter, but some days he'd have a beer with me or something, it didn't matter.
00:05Because, again, it's different than AA will, in that AA says, if you ever have another drink, you're doomed, you're going to be an alcoholic again.
00:14This takes away the reasons for a person to be an alcoholic.
00:18And once you don't have a reason to be an alcoholic, because once we uncover everything, get all the forgiveness, then flip your mind back to the story of Jane.
00:25Then we're going to do the direct suggestions, powerfully, over and over and over again.
00:29Build up self-worth, self-esteem, that his opinion is as good as anybody else's opinion.
00:35He's as good as anybody else in the world.
00:37He can do anything he puts his mind to, blah, blah, blah.
00:40And we do all the reprogramming.
00:42And I'm telling you, we compounded George.
00:45We gave a new definition to the word compounding.
00:48It was more like hammering him with a hammer on how good he was and how worthwhile he was.
00:54So to come to find out whether we were going over his house to barbecue or whether we all decided to go out to dinner together,
01:00if we wanted to have a cocktail at dinner before dinner, George might have one or might not.
01:06It just depended on his mood.
01:07In other words, it was like booze never affected him before, and it wasn't a factor anymore.
01:14And this happens over and over again with alcoholics.
01:17Now, it was really kind of interesting, though.
01:21George stops by the office one day, and he looks a little sheepish.
01:26And he says, what are you up to?
01:27He says, well, I'm going to the nursing home.
01:32And he's got himself flowers in one hand and a box of Whitman's chocolates in the other hand.
01:41And he's going out to see his mother.
01:42And I can see he's very apprehensive.
01:45I can see he's very nervous.
01:46Is this the first time?
01:47Yeah, this is the first time.
01:49And I says, well, come by the office on the way back.
01:52This was about 10 o'clock in the morning.
01:54Tell me what happened.
01:56He says, okay.
01:58So he goes out to the nursing home.
02:01And I mean, his mother just ranted and screamed the most vile things that anybody would come in her room.
02:09She was tough, real tough.
02:15So he goes out there, and he walks in the room.
02:21She turns and starts, as usual, unloading on him verbally.
02:26You little bastard.
02:28Where the hell have you been?
02:30Some really nailing him.
02:33She knew who he was.
02:34Oh, yeah.
02:35Clear-headed old lady.
02:37So George doesn't say a word.
02:41He had stopped at the desk on the way in and picked up a vase.
02:45So he went in the bathroom off of the room, and he poured water in the vase, and she's just screaming and screaming at him.
02:51Put the flowers in there.
02:52Nice.
02:53Went over by her bed and undid the paper off the chocolates.
02:57Threw the paper away.
02:59Opened it up.
02:59Show her the box of chocolates.
03:01I don't want any goddamn chocolates.
03:03And she smacks the chocolates away.
03:05He's totally unruffled by this.
03:08Her legs are kind of atrophied.
03:11She hasn't been out of bed in a long time, so she needs a wheelchair.
03:14So he reaches the covers up by her chest and just throws them off the bed.
03:20He never did that before.
03:22She was shocked.
03:24He put his arms under her legs, under her arms.
03:27He lifted her up.
03:28She only weighed about 75 pounds at this thing.
03:31She was really lost all the weight.
03:33And he sat down in a chair and started to rock her.
03:38And he said to her mother, shut up.
03:41She shut up.
03:42He says, listen to me.
03:44You can yell at me and scream at me all you want.
03:50You can call me any vile, horrible name that you want to call me.
03:56It's okay.
03:57But mother, I'm going to tell you what.
04:01No matter what you call me, I'm always going to love you because you're my mother.
04:08And he holds her.
04:09And there's nothing that anybody can do that can keep me from loving you, not even you.
04:15And I'm going to love you until the day you die.
04:18And he said, I felt her like a limp.
04:23And then she started to cry.
04:25I mean, really cry.
04:29And saying, oh, my baby, my baby.
04:33And he just started saying, it's okay, mom.
04:36It's okay.
04:36And he's rubbing her head.
04:38And he's kissing her.
04:39And he's holding her.
04:40And he's just telling her, I love you more than anything in the world.
04:43You're my mom.
04:44And you're always going to be my mom.
04:46Well, a miracle happened.
04:53That woman in that nursing home lost all of her toxic personality.
04:59She became one of the nicest people in there.
05:04George would wheel her out and bring her up to the office.
05:07We'd all go to lunch with the little old lady.
05:09She loved clams.
05:10We used to get her steamed clams and feed her and beer.
05:13She wanted her steamed clams and beer.
05:16And we had a lot of fun with her.
05:17And once she lost this aggression, she'd tell us stories.
05:21I'm sure they weren't that significant to me.
05:23But they were terribly significant to George.
05:26And they'd sit by each other and they looked like two kids in love.
05:29It was just the most beautiful thing that you have ever seen in your entire life.
05:34And things like this happen.
05:38And when you see things like that happen, you realize your life has tremendous worth and value
05:44if this is what you can do for people.
05:49Alcoholism is a fairly easy process to work with.
05:53There are certain steps that have to come one before two, two before three.
05:57Kind of like the element induction.
05:59You've got to get one part done before you do the next part.
06:02But it's not a difficult procedure.
06:06When we demonstrated some of these techniques, I was working with, we were sharing space with
06:11a medical doctor down there at the time.
06:14And he used to like to watch these things.
06:17And he said, does this work with all alcoholics?
06:19I said, sure.
06:19He goes, well, we've got to specialize in that.
06:21I said, well, look, you know, these people go to these, you ever see these commercials
06:25for Fair Oaks and these really ritzy places out in the country where these people go?
06:30And they don't help them.
06:31That's all conscious programming.
06:33But they're enormously expensive.
06:36Tremendously expensive.
06:37And they come out and they start drugs or alcohol again.
06:40We know how to help them.
06:41The problem is it works great with alcoholics.
06:46Because alcoholics, like I said before, will accept the suggestion of abstinence between
06:52sessions, you see, as long as you're holding a session the next day.
06:57You don't wait a week.
06:58Let's not push your luck.
07:01A drug abuser, on the other hand, will not.
07:03The power of that chemical is so strong, especially if you're dealing with crack, cocaine, and
07:09things in this order, that unless we could control the body, we just don't do very well
07:15with drug abusers at all.
07:19So this doctor said, I'll tell you what we'll do.
07:20He says, there's a bunch of these mom and pop empty motels on US 1 down in Fort Lauderdale.
07:27Fort Lauderdale's US 1 was in a big period of transition from little mom and pops into
07:32the big heavy duty Sheridans and all that kind of stuff.
07:36So he says, we ought to pick one of these things up dirt cheap.
07:39Now, what we'll do is we'll put a 10-foot fence around it with razor wire, and we'll
07:44get the lawyers to draw up a piece of paper that the person will sign saying, no matter
07:48what I say, no matter what I do, unless there's a documented death in the family, you're not
07:53letting me out for 10 days.
07:55But unfortunately, he couldn't get anybody to invest in that deal with him, you see.
08:06And there's no reason why.
08:07We've had an occasional success with a drug abuser.
08:11And those suggestions are just too rare.
08:14And it's only because we can't control the body.
08:17If I had that Fair Oaks place out there, I can't tell you the healing that we do.
08:22It would be miraculous.
08:24But we don't, and nobody believes hypnotists can do what they do anyway.
08:29The other thing you have to be careful about is when you deal, a terrible thing happened
08:36out in Texas quite a number of years ago now, in that this woman who took a class, she was
08:44a nurse, but she comes from a family of alcoholics.
08:47But she somehow missed the bullet and was okay.
08:50But she was very interested in working with alcoholics.
08:54And she was an interior designer, and a very good interior designer.
08:57But this is what she wanted to do after the class.
09:00So she went out and rented a strip center with a nice, oh, about 2,000 foot building.
09:07And she built it out herself.
09:09And I mean, she decorated.
09:11I mean, she put mega bucks into this thing.
09:14And as this big sign, lighted sign, was going up called the Hypnosis Alcohol Clinic, was what
09:23she was calling the place.
09:25A couple of days after that sign went up, and it was about a week before she was getting
09:30ready to open her doors.
09:31She started getting picketed by Alcoholics Anonymous.
09:38Oh, it doesn't work.
09:39It doesn't work.
09:40You know, I'm sure they're not like this all over the country, but in this particular area,
09:46they were vicious in saying, this can't work.
09:49What we do works.
09:51This is ridiculous.
09:52It's a scam.
09:53It's a whole nine yards.
09:54And they kept the picketing up until she ran out of money.
09:57And she had to fold her cards and go.
10:01And that's really a sad, sad story, because she would have been extremely good at this,
10:07you see.
10:08How many days do you need for treatment of a person that comes for treatment?
10:13Alcoholism and drug abuse is about the same.
10:15It takes about five sessions, four to five sessions.
10:19It could be done every day?
10:20Yeah, it could be done every day.
10:22If you could get like a solid six days commitment, I think you could do just about anything you
10:29wanted to do with these people.
10:31And even if the person is on drugs, you can get them into hypnosis anyway, and you can
10:35give them a cross-program.
10:37The more you stay off the Dilata, I remember this Dilata cake, the more calm and in control
10:42and good you feel, the instant you take another Dilatan pill, you get the diarrhea, you get
10:47the shivers, you get the shakes, the whole nine yards, it'll have the opposite effect.
10:50And that happened to take, that happened to work.
10:53But when I say that, I would like to see the people detox first.
10:57You know, get them into a hospital, get them detoxed, then get them into this four or five
11:01day program, five or six day program tops, and then you'd be able to do the work if they
11:06wanted to.
11:07You see, alcoholism and drug abuse always have to have the same beginning point, whether
11:12it's AA or whether it's hypnosis.
11:15That person must crawl to you on their hands and knees and say, I'm a drunk, I'm out of
11:22control.
11:25If I don't get help, I'm going to die.
11:26I want help.
11:28You cannot have these people be forced to have help.
11:33You can't have the courts give a writ saying you've got to attend Jerry Kind's alcohol program.
11:39Not going to work.
11:41You can't say you've got to go to Fair Oaks for three months.
11:44It's not going to work.
11:45They have to beg.
11:47They have to be all the way at the bottom then and only then are you going to be able
11:53to help these people.
11:54Okay, so that's chair therapy and deathbed therapy and it's a very powerful technique.
12:01Just learn one lesson from this, don't lose your pillow.
12:10And I'm anesthetizing my hand there, but still in all, it was throbbing and throbbing.
12:15You feel the throb, although, and you feel the crunch when you bent your hand, you hear
12:19all this crunching click clackity crunch.
12:22That was a lot of fun.
12:23All right, let's take a few minutes break and get some blood in our butts.
12:27Okay, welcome back from your break.
12:30We got out and walked on the hot Florida sunshine a little bit and got the dust blown off of
12:36us and now we can see the value and the power of chair therapy and deathbed therapy to affect
12:44the transition within the individuals.
12:47Now once you get through this phase and you get forgiveness, then it's simply a matter
12:53of cleaning up any residual negativity that might be laying around and using that technique
12:59we handed out to you works great on the gray room.
13:04And then just direct suggestion.
13:06Remember, after you do this, the subconscious mind is like a field of new full and slow or
13:12like a formatted computer disk if that's more your orientation.
13:16And it's just ready to absorb the new information.
13:19And you put in there the information that that person wants to be.
13:23When you program them, they can do anything that they're worthwhile, their opinion as good
13:27as anybody else's.
13:29They're free.
13:31The events of their past can no longer affect them and disturb them.
13:36Past behavior of a negative nature can never again affect them in the future.
13:40All these kinds of things.
13:42And just over and over and over again.
13:44Now here's how you know when you've compounded something enough.
13:49When you compound these general suggestions of people creating value within them, self-esteem,
13:58self-worth, their opinion as good as anybody else, you know you've compounded it enough when
14:05you've reached the point that if you say this anymore, you're going to want to puke.
14:10Now, when you've reached that stage, give it another 15 minutes of compounding.
14:17Because then it'll be just about as strong as it needs to be.
14:22And then I think you'll find that your people have miraculous change.
14:28And it's fun.
14:29And it's wonderful.
14:31And you will accumulate letters from people in the mail thanking you for saving their lives
14:37over and over and over again.
14:39You start a file with that.
14:41And if you ever question whether your life has value, that's what I do.
14:48If I ever get the blues and I wonder, you know, what is the meaning of life, I go into
14:52my letter files and I read the letters like you gave me last night at our class party telling
14:57me how much you appreciated the training.
14:59I'll read those.
15:00And I'll read from clients and I'll say, well, you know, you've done something good.
15:05This is okay.
15:06You can, you can, if you have to move on now, you did good.
15:09And that's what we all need to do.
15:11So you collect yours too and you'll enjoy it.
15:14And they'll stand good fast with you for many years.
15:18Let's move on to a different area of the work.
15:20Now this area of the work is an area in which some people have a very powerful belief system.
15:28Some people don't.
15:30Some people say that everything about this is real.
15:36Some people say it's all ridiculous.
15:37And that is the concept of past life therapy.
15:40I forget, I know I asked you, but just out of curiosity, how many of you in the class believe
15:46in the concept of previous existences?
15:50Three.
15:52By the way, this class reminds me of a grammar school dance.
15:57All the boys on one side, all the girls on the other side.
16:00Penny didn't have a choice.
16:02Except for Penny, Penny was forced over with the boys, but she's been smiling more than the
16:08rest of you guys.
16:09Well, you wanted to go where the action was then.
16:20The concept of past life therapy is very interesting.
16:24This concept is believed in by more, substantially more than two-thirds of the people of the world.
16:33Do your biggest religions in the world believe in it completely?
16:38Which is Buddhism and your far eastern religions, Muslims and things in that order?
16:44Muslim?
16:45Sure.
16:46Well, there was an emperor.
16:58There was an emperor, God, what's his name?
17:00Constantinople.
17:02When the Bible was written, it had all sorts of references into it about past lives, future lives.
17:10And the emperor Constantinople said, well, geez, if we leave this in there, it's going to sap my power because if I slay people, they'll just come back.
17:19You know, I need to have more fear than that.
17:21And so he pulled that information out of the Christian Bible, and therefore, from that point on, it was preached that that thing is Satanism, the work of the devil, you see.
17:34And people who think that way are evil, and so the battle lines are drawn.
17:41Now, I'm not here to argue anything about religion.
17:45Please don't misunderstand what I say.
17:47But religion aside, you will be working with past lives whether you like it or not.
17:56Because when you use a non-directed regression technique, people will drop back into what they perceive to be a previous existence.
18:04Now, what are you going to do?
18:06Then, your choice is either to say, get back here where you belong, if that's your belief system.
18:12Get back here.
18:13Who do you think you are?
18:15Cleopatra, get back here.
18:18You're going to work in this dress shop whether you like it or not, you see.
18:22Or you can work with the problem where they perceive it to be and help those people change.
18:28I suspect that's what we should do.
18:30Don't you?
18:31Yeah.
18:32All right.
18:34How does past life therapy work?
18:37Well, when we talk about past lives, let's look at the three places that we're talking about.
18:42When you do a past life regression, it's generally you start off in this life.
18:47You go into whatever past life it is that's significant to the individual.
18:50Then, what I like to do is bring people into the Bardo state, B-A-R-D-O.
18:58The Bardo state is that period after they die, before they get born again.
19:03I like to just wander around in there a while and see what's up, just out of curiosity.
19:07What they've been doing for that period of time, you see.
19:10It's written down.
19:11Very interesting.
19:12No, this is not written down.
19:13You're going to have to take notes on this one.
19:15You started this life, then you go to a past life?
19:17Yeah.
19:18Well, that's where they go.
19:19They regress to a past life.
19:20And then you've got to bring them forward again to get them back.
19:23We'll show you how that works.
19:24When you do enough of these past life regressions, you realize that they're out there.
19:37And whether they're real or not, I don't know.
19:39Who knows?
19:41The only time you're going to know whether this has truth or not is when your heart beats
19:46that last beat.
19:48And you move on.
19:50And you discover that there is a future life.
19:53And a lot of people believe in the law of karma.
19:56For example, you know, if you were a poor, if you were a slave owner in the last life,
20:02then you'll have to be the equal of a slave in some future life.
20:05Or if you had an enjoyable life in this life, next time you'd have to live in Cleveland or
20:10something to balance it off, you see.
20:13The law of karma is out there.
20:16How about this tape doesn't sell well in Cleveland?
20:18Probably won't sell this tape well in Cleveland at all, will you?
20:23But what is interesting about past life regression work is generally there's so many holes in
20:31the regression that if you really wanted to take it apart, you probably could pretty much
20:38scientifically discount most of them.
20:41But that doesn't matter because if it's therapeutical and effect change, that's the only thing I'm interested in.
20:47But every once in a while, you come across a jewel.
20:51And a jewel is a past life regression that it's very difficult, if not impossible, to discount.
21:01And I'd like to relate one to you that was very much like this with me.
21:07And this was interesting because it was a recreational regression.
21:11I was invited to give a speech at a metaphysical group a few years back, which I did, and I gave a nice speech.
21:17And the woman who was the head of it said, would you hypnotize my daughter?
21:22She'd like to be hypnotized.
21:23Well, I said, sure.
21:25I said, where is she?
21:26She says, well, I'll go get her.
21:27And she came back and she brought this 15-year-old girl out who was eight months pregnant with her second child.
21:41Now, this girl was not an ignorant girl.
21:46She just made some bad choices in life.
21:48But the point being, this girl had never left this little city down in South Florida called Sunrise,
21:55which was very little at that time, other than her father took her to Miami, I think, once, 20 miles away or something like that.
22:02She wasn't ignorant, but she was uneducated.
22:06She had no knowledge, really, of the world around her.
22:09She had no idea what life was like in San Francisco or any other part of the world.
22:14She had no clue what was going on in government.
22:16Probably didn't know who the president was.
22:19Wasn't interested.
22:20How many years ago was this, John?
22:21This was probably 15 years ago.
22:26So I hypnotized her.
22:28And because her life was in the dumper, she would do anything to get out of this particular situation she was in.
22:35So she wanted a past life regression.
22:37So I said, well, here we go.
22:38You know, she'll invent something.
22:40And I regressed her back.
22:43And she was a woman in France.
22:49Not a very interesting life.
22:50So I said, well, move to the life immediately before the one you have now.
22:54She had to move forward in time.
22:55And she did.
22:58And I said, okay, at the count of five, you'll be there.
23:01One, two, three, four, five.
23:02Counting up because I'm moving her forward.
23:04Count backwards to move backwards.
23:07Boinked her on the forehead.
23:08Well, where are you now?
23:09Is it inside or outside?
23:11And it's a very clear, articulate voice.
23:13Well, I'm on the inside.
23:15Is it daytime or nighttime?
23:17Well, it's Sunday morning.
23:17Are you alone or somebody's with you?
23:21No, I'm at the office and I'm working by myself today.
23:26Well, give me a report.
23:26Tell me what you're doing.
23:28Oh, I said, by what name should I call you?
23:30She says, call me Susan.
23:33Suddenly Susan.
23:36Sunday, Sunday, Susan.
23:37So I said, okay, Susan.
23:39I said, what are you doing?
23:40She goes, well, I'm working in the office.
23:41I said, what office are you working with on Sunday?
23:44I said, what city are you in?
23:45She says, St. Louis.
23:47I said, what are you doing in the office?
23:49She goes, well, I work for this attorney firm
23:51and they hit me so hard during the week
23:54with all this paperwork, I can't keep up.
23:57So I don't mind coming in on Sundays
23:58and typing briefs so they're ready
24:00for next week, tomorrow when they open up.
24:03You know, it's okay.
24:04I get paid for it.
24:06And I said, well, I said, that's interesting.
24:09I said, this sounded pretty boring in a way.
24:13So I said, well, we're going to move to the last,
24:17the last day of your life.
24:19Because I wanted to get out of here.
24:20I wanted to close this thing down.
24:21It's going to be the last day of your life.
24:23And something significant is going to happen on this day.
24:26Here we go.
24:27One, two, three.
24:28It's the last day of your life.
24:29Where are you?
24:30Same place.
24:30I'm sitting here in the office and I'm typing briefs.
24:33I said, are you doing anything special?
24:37It didn't sound like somebody was going to die.
24:38I said, how old are you?
24:40She says, I'm 24.
24:43Are you healthy?
24:45Sure, I feel great.
24:46I'm in great condition.
24:48I'm going, the last day of your life.
24:49What's going to happen?
24:49A lightning bolt going to come down and nail her or what?
24:52Anyway, I said, what do you do?
24:53I said, is anything else going on?
24:54She said, I'm listening to the radio.
24:56Uh-huh.
24:57I said, the radio?
24:58I said, who are you listening to?
24:59I like to listen to music while I do this.
25:01I said, what kind of music are you listening to?
25:04She says, oh, I like Benny Goodman.
25:06Benny Goodman is my favorite band.
25:08I'm going, oh, that's very interesting.
25:11I said, what year is this?
25:12She goes, 1941.
25:14I said, well, that's very interesting.
25:16I said, okay.
25:17I said, something.
25:18I said, oh, don't you like Glenn Miller?
25:20I said, she said, he's all right, but I like Benny Goodman the best.
25:24I like to watch him do his work and dance to him.
25:27I said, okay, at the count of three, something significant is going to happen
25:30that's going to cause you to move forward into another person.
25:34Here we go, one, two, three.
25:36What's going on?
25:37Oh, my God.
25:39Oh, my God.
25:40Oh, my God.
25:42What's the matter?
25:43She said, listen.
25:44Well, I can't hear the radio.
25:45She thinks I'm there, you see.
25:47I said, what's the problem?
25:49She goes, they're bombing Pearl Harbor.
25:52The Japanese, they bombed Pearl Harbor, bombing Pearl Harbor.
25:56And she didn't know where Pearl Harbor was.
26:00It just wasn't part of her world or thinking about it.
26:02But she thought it might be in the next county and Mitsubishi bombers were going to be seen
26:06over St. Louis and blow her up, you see.
26:09And she said, I've got to run home.
26:11I've got to tell my brother.
26:12I've got to tell my mother.
26:13Oh, my God.
26:14And she was an upstairs office over a McCrory store.
26:18And she had to run downstairs.
26:21She had to go across this street through this little park with a cute little gazebo across
26:26another street to where her house was.
26:29And the way she described it, I remember the opening of All in the Family, the Archie Bunker
26:33show, all those row houses.
26:35It sounded like it was like that.
26:37So I said, okay, tell me what's happening.
26:41So I'm going downstairs and I'm going across the street.
26:43Oh, my God.
26:45All right, you moved past that.
26:47What happened?
26:48She got by bus.
26:49No car.
26:51Flattened by the bus, you see.
26:54So I said, that was fascinating.
26:56And in this thing, we got her full name, her home telephone number, the name of the law
27:01office, the law office telephone number.
27:04There's so much detail on this thing.
27:08That when I emerged her, I said to her mother, I said, you know, you ought to see if you can
27:15investigate this a little bit.
27:17And she said, I think I will.
27:18I'll let you know.
27:21So the mother, the first thing she did, and we had the girl's last name, which was Susan
27:26Callahan, Irish girl, I guess.
27:30Susan Callahan.
27:31And so she looked up Callahan in the, called up information and said, is there a Callahan
27:37at this address?
27:40And they said, yes.
27:42The address of her old house is what she was looking up.
27:45And it was a Robert Callahan.
27:47That was the name of her brother, allegedly, in this particular existence.
27:53And the mother said, oh, that's real interesting.
27:55And she put that piece of paper away.
27:57And she called up the law, she called information to see if the law office was still there.
28:04And it was.
28:04So she called the law office.
28:06And of course, the men that were running it then, the sons are now running the law office.
28:11The old guys have either retired or died off.
28:13And the mother asked them if they ever heard of a situation, or if their dad's ever talked
28:20about a situation, about a Susan Callahan being killed on December 7th.
28:24And one of the sons got on the phone and said, yes, absolutely.
28:27Not only that, he said, I was a little boy, and I knew this girl at the time.
28:33And she said, yes, she worked for us, and she was killed, and she got hit by a bus that day.
28:39We still have our records on file here.
28:41So the mother's going, oh, my, you know, this is very interesting.
28:46So then the mother is, like, wanting to call this brother.
28:50But she's scared to death to do this.
28:53And of course, the little girl will say, mommy, please call.
28:55I want to know.
28:56She really wants to know.
28:58So finally, the mother calls up the guy around 6 o'clock on a Friday night.
29:03And he answers the phone.
29:06And at that time, he was in his 50s.
29:08And he said, yes, I'm Robert Callahan.
29:12She says, well, you don't know me.
29:13I'm calling from Florida.
29:15And I want to talk about your sister, Susan.
29:18You had a sister named Susan?
29:20Oh, yes, I had a sister named Susan.
29:22What would you like to know about her?
29:25And, well, did she get killed by a bus and this and that?
29:27Yes, everything.
29:29And then the mother said, I don't know how to tell you this.
29:31I said, but, and she explained what happened and that her daughter was relating all these facts.
29:40And, of course, the guy's going, mm-hmm, you know, this is very weird.
29:45And he said, well, thank you for the information.
29:47He said, I think I need to digest this a little bit and took her phone number.
29:53And a couple of days later, didn't hear from her.
29:57So this little girl called him up, the pregnant girl, and started talking to him, saying, don't you remember we did this?
30:05And don't you remember we did that?
30:07And the guy was aghast.
30:10And she told her mother she wanted to go up and visit this man to see her brother.
30:14She just called him her brother.
30:16She even recalled this now?
30:18Yeah, she was given the suggestion that she would remember everything after she emerged from hypnosis.
30:24She said she wanted to go see her brother.
30:25So the mother called up there and he said, yes, he said, this is very intriguing.
30:29I'd like to meet this little girl.
30:32And so they decided to wait until after her child was born.
30:36So after the baby was born, they had an aunt living with them,
30:39and after the baby was up and running, there was no real problem,
30:42they decided to take a trip to St. Louis.
30:44And they plopped in a plane, and they flew to St. Louis.
30:48And this man was going to pick them up at the airport.
30:51And this little girl gets off and walks up the jetway,
30:54and she comes out the other side, and her mother's telling me this story.
30:58Her head is just swinging and swinging, just looking at all the faces.
31:01And way in the back, there's this man very quietly standing,
31:06kind of far away from everybody else that's being greeted.
31:11And she says, Bobby, Bobby, and she parts the crowd and jumps on this guy
31:18and gives him a hug.
31:19I miss you, I miss you so much.
31:22And the guy's like, holy gee.
31:26And this was the alleged brother.
31:30And it's like she's crying her eyes out with joy,
31:34and the mother and this guy are going, hmm, this is what we do now, you know.
31:38So he said, well, let's go over to the house.
31:41So they finally calmed down enough, and they drove over to the house.
31:44They pulled up.
31:46What happened to the park?
31:47There was a gazebo in the park right there.
31:50And, well, vandals, by now this was not one of your greater areas of the city, you know,
31:54and it was where everybody sold drugs and everything.
31:57But anyway, they get to the house.
31:59She goes in the house, and she's showing her mother the house.
32:02Now the living room's over here.
32:03The dining room's over here.
32:04Let me go back in the kitchen.
32:04I'll show you this.
32:05And I'll go in the pantry, and here's the pantry, and this is where I used to keep my jelly beans
32:08and all this kind of stuff.
32:10And they says, I want to see my bedroom.
32:11I want to see my bedroom.
32:12And they run upstairs, and they go into the bedroom, which is now this guy's den, you know,
32:17where he sits and relaxes.
32:18He's single.
32:19His wife had died.
32:22And she says, I wonder if it's still there.
32:24I wonder if it's still there.
32:25And she runs into the closet.
32:27And she says, give me a screwdriver.
32:30Give me a knife or something.
32:31And somebody gets her a screwdriver, and the baseboards back in that house were that big
32:36in these old homes, you know.
32:39And she pries on it.
32:40It comes off real easy, even though it's been, she says, this room is not the same,
32:43and all this is painted, and it's all different.
32:45But she says, let me see.
32:46And she pries the baseboard out, and she reaches in there, and she brings out a big mason jar.
32:52It's still here.
32:53And it was the money she was saving for a car.
32:56And it was old silver dollars.
32:59She had a couple of gold coins in there, and it was still there.
33:06Everybody was freaking out.
33:09I was, too, when the mother called me up from St. Louis and said, you ain't going to believe
33:12what's happening up here.
33:14They took her over to the lawyer's office where she worked.
33:18She runs into the office, and she freezes.
33:20She goes, what happened to this place?
33:24Nothing's the same.
33:25Well, they had redecorated this thing.
33:27When you walked in in the old days, when she worked there, you walked into a lobby,
33:30and then there was this little wooden hardwood fence with a little swinging gate, you know,
33:36an old lawyer's office.
33:37And now it's all modern.
33:39She goes, this place looks like crap.
33:43And the son comes out.
33:45Yeah, we decorated it.
33:47It looked so dark the way Dad had it.
33:48She goes, this is terrible what you've done here.
33:51My office isn't even here anymore.
33:53It's over there where the copy machine is.
33:55And she, yeah, that's right.
33:57That's where the office was.
33:59So she said, I want to get out of here.
34:00I don't like this anymore.
34:01He said that?
34:02She said.
34:03And then they took her to see her grave.
34:05Oh, my God.
34:07Nothing.
34:07No meaning, no feeling, no nothing.
34:10So then she goes home, and the girl goes into terrible depression.
34:15She wants to live with her brother.
34:17She wants to go up there.
34:19And he, huh?
34:20Now you've done it.
34:21Yeah.
34:22Well, you know, her life was in such a dumper down here.
34:25So, and they were talking almost every day, her and the brother on the telephone.
34:32So finally the brother said, well, I'd like to have her up here too.
34:35I could take care of her.
34:37And her life was so bad down here, her mother said, well, let's try it for a few months and
34:43see if you like it.
34:44With the babies?
34:45Yeah, she took the babies up there with her.
34:47And she went up for the summer to see if she would like it for the summer.
34:51And she loved it.
34:52And I mean, she was doing magnificent up there.
34:55The brother had a few bucks.
34:56He wasn't rich, but he didn't have any overhead.
34:59So she went back to school up there, and she did terrific in school.
35:06Just great.
35:07She got out of school, and she went into a local community college, studied business,
35:11did great.
35:12She got a really good job working for some company up there.
35:17I don't remember exactly what it was.
35:20Saving money that she was going to go to college.
35:22And she had like a nanny staying in the house.
35:24They gave her room and board to help take care and raise the children.
35:28And her life really turned around.
35:29It became wonderful.
35:30And her mother was thrilled.
35:32And for all I know, she's still there.
35:33And everything changed within her, you see.
35:36So what happened here?
35:38Is this real?
35:39Could this be real?
35:40Well, as Art Carlson said in that video we saw in the last class, something seems to be
35:48going on out there.
35:49Because every once in a while, you will see these type of clients who have this type of
35:55experience.
35:58And how do you justify it?
35:59I mean, you know, and again, as a scientific mind, I want to keep an open mind.
36:04I want to say there has to be alternative reasons for this happening.
36:09But in this case, when you talk about genetic memory, I couldn't find any genetic connection
36:17in this particular scenario here, you see.
36:20So it was very difficult for me to come to a conclusion other than maybe there is a possibility
36:28that this indeed was a real event, you see.
36:32But again, I'm not going to jump to conclusions.
36:34I'm going to keep an open mind.
36:36It's important for me to think that way.
36:40For those of you who like the concept of past lives and say, well, that's it, you turkey.
36:44Why don't you just say it is?
36:46That's fine, too.
36:47We all got to live within our comfort zones.
36:49All I know is that particular regression that we did took a little person's life and
36:54changed it ultimately in a wonderful way.
36:58So I feel kind of good about that.
37:00The mother feels good about it.
37:01Everybody, it was a win-win situation.
37:04Because what was that little girl's life going to be like down here or down in South Florida?
37:08It wasn't going to be very much.
37:10The programming she had was not going to get her any place.
37:15And this was a whole exciting, she discovered that she had talents and skills and abilities
37:20in that past life.
37:21She was smart and intelligent.
37:23And she discovered she was smart and intelligent in this one, too.
37:26And so it was a wonderful, wonderful transformation for that person.
37:31Most of your past life regressions you do are certainly not that dramatic.
37:36When we say go back to the first situation or event that caused the problem to be there, it's usually
37:44pretty sterile and pretty clinical what happens.
37:47A pretty dramatic example was my sister-in-law, my brother's wife.
37:56She had terrible asthma.
37:58The worst asthma I've ever seen and it just kept them worse and worse and worse.
38:03She had more inhalers than you could imagine.
38:06As soon as she got the slightest bit tense under anything, this horrible asthma came on her and nobody knew if she was going to survive the attacks.
38:14But she would never let me hypnotize her because when my brother first married her, he's two years older than me, her name's Janine.
38:22Janine and I, because I wasn't working, I was still goofing off.
38:28I'd pick up Janine and we'd go party at the ice cream store and goof around and I'd take her up for airplane rides.
38:34And we just, she knew I was crazy.
38:36So she wouldn't trust me to do hypnosis with her.
38:39And I kept telling her, Janine, you know, I can help you with this.
38:42Well, I'm not trusting you.
38:43You know, you're insane.
38:45So, finally when she hit 50, she was in extremely dire straits.
38:53Very serious condition.
38:55Nothing the doctors were doing was seeming to do anything to stop the progression of the intensity of this illness.
39:01until finally she says, well, I really want you to work with me, please.
39:07I said, okay.
39:08And I hopped the bird up to New Jersey and I went over to their house.
39:13And I had to work with her like about three times before she'd really accept a level of hypnosis that we could work with.
39:19She was testing me and I don't blame her because of our past relationship.
39:22But finally she hit somnambulism and I told her to go simply back to the first situation or event
39:28that caused her to have this terrible problem breathing.
39:34And I used a arm drop, lift your arm and drop it.
39:37You'll be right back at that situation.
39:39And instantly she snapped back into what she perceived to be the 1700s, late 1700s.
39:47She was in Paris.
39:49She was a woman of means.
39:51She was at the theater.
39:52The theater was packed.
39:56Now, the theaters in those days weren't really too dissimilar to the layouts of these days.
40:00You had your up-close seats where weren't the greatest, a little bit further back,
40:04which is where the rich people and she was, and then cheaper seats as you go back.
40:09And up around the top were where the rabble were, the street rabble kind of people up there in the balconies, you see.
40:16Well, anyway, how did they light the theaters back then?
40:20Big torches and candles.
40:21And they had heavy red curtains on each side of the stage, floor to ceiling.
40:27And the stage lights were lit by these half-shell, highly polished silver, like half a clam, you see, kind of a thing with a big old candle in it that reflected the light backing up.
40:39People smoked in those theaters like crazy.
40:42And so those draperies were so full of tar and nicotine, they were a tinderbox.
40:47And what happened was, here comes this guy out, and this has come some kind of a ballet type of a dance with a sword in his hand, and he's pirouetting through the air.
40:58And one of these rabble put a big spit in the air, splat, on the stage.
41:03As he's coming down, the heel of his foot hits this thing, and he goes, woof, and does a pirouet, unpracticed, slams into one of these clamshell things.
41:16The candle hit it just right.
41:17It goes up in the air, and she said it's like slow motion.
41:21It didn't go out, and it landed at the bottom of this curtain on the right, which instantly went, whew, and it's like hair burning.
41:29If you ever saw hair burning, amazing.
41:31And, of course, everybody panicked.
41:33And the exits were down front on the left, down front on the right, and in the back.
41:38So she starts heading for the one down on the left she was the closest to.
41:43And everybody's screaming and charging toward that exit, and they knock her down.
41:49And she's fairly close to the door.
41:51She almost made it.
41:52But the doors unbelievably opened inward in this theater.
42:00And so everybody's pushing against the door, and they're not opening.
42:02What happened?
42:02People are building, piling up on top of each other, and the weight is going on her back.
42:08And what's happening, there's so much weight, she's getting to the point.
42:11She's not going to die of the fire.
42:13She's not going to die of the smoke.
42:14She can't expand her lungs to get air.
42:17Can you imagine the terror that's going on within this woman in this scenario?
42:23And the absolute fear and terror.
42:25She can't get the breath.
42:27She's gasping.
42:28And then finally, she dies in horrible trauma.
42:37And so I said, okay, stay there and tell me how you feel.
42:42She said, I feel fine now.
42:47I said, let's move now forward to right before you enter the child of the little girl that has the breathing problem in this life.
42:55And 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
42:58I said, now, and I always like to ask the same questions.
43:01It's kind of my unofficial figure what's going on in a Bardo state.
43:05So I like to say to everybody in that state, have you ever seen the Christed one?
43:09And they all, the Christed one.
43:12They always say the same thing.
43:14Which one?
43:15Which one?
43:17Well, which ones you got?
43:19Well, you're talking about Buddha or Jesus.
43:21And they'll start rambling off a whole bunch of these things.
43:25I said, well, who are these people?
43:27And they'll say, well, they're just teachers.
43:28They're nobody really important.
43:30And we've got to do that too.
43:32So it's no big deal.
43:33I said, I mean, this guy isn't like, well, I don't want to get into the religious things on the video.
43:38But they just say they're nobody special.
43:40We just all have to go through this phase also.
43:43And I said, that's interesting.
43:44I said, well, let's move before you enter the life of the girl in 1940, whatever year she, I think she was born.
43:54Let's see, she was two years younger than me.
43:56So she would have been born in 41.
43:58Dated myself.
43:58Oh, God.
43:59Anyway, I said, apparently, you are bringing into this situation, now you're going to give me an awareness of why you have a breathing problem in the life that you're now in.
44:17And as you enter this life, tell me how that event back there affected you in your life now.
44:23And she said, it's very easy to understand.
44:26She says, obviously, you have never been really frightened, have you?
44:31Well, I thought I have.
44:33And she says, the terror was so frightening to me.
44:38So the fear was so absolute.
44:41She said, if you ever heard, you probably, absolute is an amazing word because it's hard to define absolute.
44:47It's absolute.
44:48That's what it is.
44:49It's pure fear.
44:50And she said, I never knew I could feel that way.
44:54And what happened to me in this life was every time I felt, in the beginning when I was young, every time I felt a little frightened about something,
45:06it triggered, at my subconscious level, the memory of that terrible event.
45:12And I couldn't breathe.
45:13And as I moved through this life, I became more and more sensitive to it.
45:19Every time I felt tense or nervous or apprehensive, it flashed me back to that feeling, and I recreated the feeling.
45:27And it's getting worse and worse all the time.
45:30So now we know why she has this problem in this life.
45:33I said, well, Janine, I said, look, you were not a bad person in that past existence, were you?
45:42No.
45:43I said, and you've been punishing yourself for all these many years for something that happened to somebody a couple of hundred years ago.
45:49I know.
45:51That was really stupid, wasn't it?
45:53No, it wasn't stupid.
45:55That was such a horrible event that you just were unable to shake it off, and you brought it forward with you into this life.
46:01And that's not fair to you.
46:02It's not fair to your husband.
46:04It's not fair to your children.
46:05It's time to leave that event back with that woman in the 1790s.
46:09And you need to move forward from that.
46:12She said, I can't believe I brought that forward with me.
46:15I said, you did.
46:16Now, at the count of three, we're going to move up to you in this whatever year we were working.
46:20You'll be more deeply relaxed.
46:22One, two, three.
46:23And you're going to have an awareness.
46:25I said, you're going to have an awareness of everything we've done.
46:27So now I got her back in the house where we were.
46:30I said, now you realize you've been living the life and the fears of that woman back in the 1790s.
46:37Don't you think you've punished yourself enough unfairly?
46:40Don't you think it's time to leave that fear back where it belonged, with that woman back there who had that tragic accident?
46:47You realize in your world today, many things have changed.
46:52We no longer light things with fire in the theaters.
46:55We have all sorts of safety measures.
46:57We've got wonderful exit abilities.
46:58And no longer can that fear affect you.
47:01Would you be willing to accept that?
47:03She says, oh, yes, of course.
47:05I will.
47:06And I said, that woman back then is not the woman here today.
47:17You're a totally different person with a totally different life.
47:22And it's time now, you've punished yourself long enough to leave that back there, get on with this life so you can be the very best that you can be for your husband, your children, and most importantly, for yourself.
47:34Are you willing to do that?
47:36Absolutely.
47:37I said, okay.
47:39Go inside yourself.
47:40Is there anything else we need to do that we haven't done, that you need to have done, before I merge you, to correct this problem that you've had for all these years?
47:51No, but I just can't believe it.
47:54I just, how can this be?
47:57I said, it's the way the mind works.
48:00And you're not that woman anymore.
48:01She said, that's amazing.
48:04I was really stupid, wasn't I?
48:06You hear that so many times.
48:07No, it's just what happens.
48:10I'm going to count the three.
48:11Your eyes are going to open.
48:12And you're going to discover something else.
48:15From this moment on, the more you would be frightened or tense, the more calm and relaxed you become.
48:21What scares you, what made you have those respiration problems and panic attacks in the past with breathing, those stimulations now only cause you to relax even more.
48:35And you'll notice during those periods you're breathing calmly in exactly the proportion that you need for the physical work you're doing at that time.
48:45No longer will you respond like that woman of the 1790s because you've taken back control of your life and no longer are these attacks going to bother you.
48:56True or false?
48:59True.
48:59It was so stupid, wasn't it?
49:01No, it wasn't stupid.
49:03Or at the count of three, let your eyes open.
49:06Become fully alert.
49:07And when they open, they're going to open into a new person and a new world.
49:11One, two, three, open your eyes.
49:15And she did.
49:16And she looked at me and she says, that was interesting.
49:21But I don't think that has anything to do with anything that's wrong with me.
49:26You know, she was a school teacher, very analytical.
49:29Her husband is an attorney.
49:33That couldn't have anything to do.
49:34You know, Jerry, I've been to the best physicians in the world.
49:36And, you know, I love to believe you, and I know you tried hard, but I'm sure that this, it seemed real back then.
49:47I mean, it was an interesting trip, but I'm sure it really didn't help me.
49:51I said, okay.
49:52I said, well, you know, let me know how you feel.
49:55I'm going to go away and I'm going to go back to Florida now.
49:57I hate rejection.
50:00I'll see you.
50:01So I left and went back to Newark Airport and hopped the flight, and my brother took me over.
50:07You think it helped?
50:07I said, Donnie, I'm going to tell you something.
50:10If she ever has another asthma attack, I'm going to be one of the most amazed people on planet Earth.
50:15She doesn't realize it, but let me know how it makes sense.
50:18Now, she was having at least one a day, and they were horrible.
50:23So I didn't hear anything.
50:25And then about three weeks later, I get a phone call at the office, and it's Janine.
50:32She says, Jerry?
50:33I said, yeah.
50:34She says, I've been meaning to call you, but I've been a little embarrassed to call you.
50:41I said, why?
50:42She goes, well, you know, you and I have been buds and all this kind of stuff all these years.
50:48And she says, I just want to thank you for giving me my life back.
50:53I've never had another problem.
50:55I've never had another attack.
50:57And she hasn't ever since.
50:59So is it real?
51:03Well, from a therapeutic point, it's real.
51:06From a therapeutic point, if you get those results, you see, that's all I care about.
51:11I think this stuff is about the most boring work you can do.
51:13But it's so fruitful because you get this tremendous change within the individuals.
51:21And we can sit here and relate case history after case history.
51:25And I just want to tell you one more because this one will blow your mind.
51:29And I think you'll find this extremely interesting.
51:33And as soon as we get the tape change, wait till you hear this one.
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