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The NFL wants to implement New Kickoff Rules
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3/26/2025
We drive into new kickoff rules the NFL wants to implement next season, this then leads to our own ideas the NFL should use to bring kickoffs back. How did Leroy get knocked out in a Pro Bowl?
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I'm not sure if you guys saw about this rule change attempting to somehow make the kickoff
00:07
more entertaining as it has been completely removed from the game.
00:11
The NFL competition committee is set to change the spot of touchbacks from the 30-yard line
00:18
to the 35-yard line.
00:20
Jesus Christ, they just want more scoring.
00:22
This is apparently in an effort to further boost the rate of returns.
00:27
How?
00:28
They want less sentiment to move the spot of the kick itself, meaning if you kick it
00:34
to the touchback, it's going to be boring for television.
00:38
So therefore, you're giving up 35 yards.
00:41
But if you kick it in the zone so that they can return it, that's good for television.
00:46
So therefore, you know, we'll figure it out.
00:48
That's just kind of...
00:49
Because they just got tired of the touchbacks because people were like, yeah, I'll settle
00:52
for the 30.
00:53
They're trying to make it like people won't settle for the 35.
00:56
They'll settle for the 35, dude.
00:57
Eventually, they're going to be like, all right, well, we're moving touchbacks to the
01:00
40.
01:01
And they're like, well, why do we even do this kick then?
01:03
And people are going to start only onside kicking.
01:06
What we need to do is what the XFL did.
01:07
You put a ball in the middle, you have two people run to it.
01:10
That's what you want.
01:13
You want Oklahoma.
01:14
Yes, dude.
01:15
And I want that to become a position that is now scouted in the NFL draft process of
01:21
like...
01:22
All right.
01:23
To be fair, if you really want to make it...
01:24
A gladiator.
01:26
If you really want to make people kick off to those zones, save they don't.
01:30
If it's a touchback, you just automatically put it at 50.
01:34
Now, they're not going to mess around.
01:36
Nobody wants to start...
01:37
That's what I'm saying.
01:38
But they're going to say...
01:39
35 is like...
01:40
It's only 20 yards.
01:41
You're in field goal range.
01:42
I mean, 35, they're like, all right, well, you know what, whatever.
01:45
I'll do that.
01:46
That's fine.
01:47
I don't care.
01:48
I can give up a field goal if I have a good defense.
01:49
50.
01:50
So let me get this straight.
01:51
Let me get this straight.
01:52
Wait a minute now.
01:53
So then now they're going to...
01:54
At that point, though, they're going to be like, all right, well, I'm onside kicking
01:56
If I'm giving it up at the 50, I'm just going to onside kick every time.
01:59
And then that's...
02:00
You can't.
02:01
But if you onside kick, you have to announce it beforehand and you onside kick it from
02:06
your own, what, 20?
02:08
From your own 20.
02:11
Where are they kicking off from now?
02:13
Let's see.
02:14
Where do you...
02:15
Because where you kick off is different from where you line up, which is why this whole
02:19
thing is stupid.
02:20
Really, they've ruined the onside kick.
02:21
Or they've ruined the kick.
02:23
So they're moving the players back.
02:26
Oh my God.
02:27
Is this true?
02:28
Yeah.
02:29
Hold on.
02:30
I'm reading things about the set.
02:31
I didn't even know it was this bad.
02:32
The...
02:33
This is so stupid.
02:34
In the NFL, onside kicks are only allowed in the fourth quarter now.
02:35
Only by the team that is trailing.
02:36
They must declare their intention.
02:37
Yeah.
02:38
And it says beyond the set up.
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So there's like a set up.
02:40
So it's like a set up.
02:41
It's a set up.
02:42
It's a set up.
02:43
It's a set up.
02:44
It's a set up.
02:45
It's a set up.
02:46
It's a set up.
02:47
It's a set up.
02:48
It's a set up.
02:49
It's a set up.
02:50
It's a set up.
02:51
It's a set up.
02:52
It's a set up.
02:53
It's a bet 4 on the set up.
02:54
So there's like a set up zone.
02:55
Return team would start the drive at the 20 yard line if you don't do it properly.
02:58
Like this is stupid.
02:59
This is all stupid.
03:00
Why?
03:01
The ball at the middle have two men run for their lives.
03:06
That is hate.
03:08
Clearly you haven't been in one of those collisions.
03:12
Hell no.
03:13
That is crazy.
03:14
Special-
03:15
I would say if.
03:21
you take and move the kickoff point, it's at the 20 now?
03:32
Four, let's see.
03:34
Where does the kicker kick from?
03:35
The 20 or the 30?
03:38
Where does the kicker kick from?
03:41
No, yeah, I think he has a running start.
03:43
Like he's not even kicking from the edge.
03:45
The kicker's by himself.
03:47
Yeah, he kicks from the 35 yard line.
03:50
Right. Right now.
03:52
The other players are at the other 20 or the other 25.
04:00
Your defenders.
04:02
He kicks off from the 30 or from the 35.
04:04
The defenders are at the 40.
04:08
Yeah, they're 40.
04:08
They're 10 yards ahead.
04:09
No, but all the players on the kicking team,
04:11
apart from the kicker, are at the receiving team's 40.
04:14
Yeah.
04:15
Right.
04:16
So they're like crossing.
04:17
And then where's the regular people,
04:21
the return team, is at the 35?
04:24
Yeah, because they're five yards apart.
04:26
Okay.
04:27
So here's what I would do.
04:29
What are we doing?
04:31
Here's what I would do.
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I would move the kicker to the 25.
04:37
All right, we're moving them back.
04:39
Move the kicking, the kick return team,
04:45
to their own, their normal line up on the 20.
04:50
Yeah.
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I move them up five yards,
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and then move the kick team back five yards or 10 yards.
05:01
So I want them 10 yards apart instead of five.
05:04
And I want it back.
05:05
If you want to promote returns,
05:09
you have to give the return team or the receiving team
05:13
a chance to set up a blocking scheme.
05:16
Why can't we just go back to the old ways
05:18
without the wedges and people getting hurt?
05:20
Because let me tell you like this,
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I didn't have no wedge,
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and I wasn't busting no wedge
05:29
when I ended up in the hospital,
05:31
running down on kickoff.
05:33
Yeah.
05:34
It's the sheer,
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it's what they're trying to avoid
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is the sheer collision of it all.
05:40
But what I would say is,
05:43
five yards, if you want a return,
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you want a game plan,
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you want special teams to have a game plan
05:53
based around returns and trying to do things
05:56
to make that a viable play,
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you can have the guys five yards apart
06:02
so that the return team never has a chance
06:05
to set up and block them.
06:08
That's why the return guys just let it go.
06:11
So if you want to promote a return,
06:15
the way to do it is,
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how much distance do I need to put
06:22
between the kick team and the receiving team
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so that the receiving team can also game plan
06:29
and have a blocking scheme?
06:32
Five yards is not enough.
06:33
So I don't care where you move the kickoff
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or where you move anybody else,
06:38
if they're five yards apart,
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you don't have an opportunity,
06:43
a viable opportunity for them to make a play of it.
06:47
So they're going to always let it go.
06:51
That's boring, dude.
06:53
Ball at the 50, one guy at the other side,
06:56
one guy at the other side,
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they run at each other.
06:58
You got to get the ball because it's become skill.
07:00
Everyone can be fast.
07:02
You got to get the ball
07:03
and then you're fighting for it.
07:04
And if someone gets injured,
07:05
it's only one guy at a time, baby.
07:07
That's easy.
07:08
All you have to do
07:11
is move the return team and the kickoff team
07:15
five more yards apart.
07:18
It then gives the return team
07:20
an opportunity to set up a play,
07:23
either a left return or right return.
07:26
You cannot do that five yards apart.
07:29
Too many injury risks, Leroy.
07:31
Not 10 yards apart.
07:34
The gambling, you want to bet on the coin toss,
07:36
that's 50-50.
07:37
Now you can bet on the kickoff, 50-50.
07:40
Who will get it?
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Will it be the Eagles?
07:42
Will it be the Giants?
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No one knows.
07:45
We're all dependent.
07:46
We're looking at this guy.
07:47
How has he been running in practice?
07:49
What's this guy's 40 time versus this guy's 40 time?
07:52
What technique is he going to use?
07:54
Is he going to dive at the ball first?
07:55
Is he going to try to knock him out like the guys like-
07:58
Do me a favor.
07:59
You're definitely going to pick this guy
08:01
who has some Greco wrestling skills.
08:04
But now we're doing it like a hockey,
08:09
what do you call it?
08:10
Like a hockey fight?
08:11
Face-off.
08:12
Yeah.
08:14
Margos, let me say this.
08:18
There's nothing that bothers me more
08:22
than people that truly do not understand
08:26
what that collision is like.
08:28
Yeah.
08:29
Trying to promote that collision.
08:31
That collision is horrible.
08:33
I ended up in the hospital
08:36
trying to tackle because I had never tackled before.
08:40
Yeah.
08:41
The smallest guy in the NFL.
08:44
That's why you shouldn't be-
08:46
And I'm not soft.
08:48
No, nobody calls you soft, Leroy.
08:50
You should never be-
08:51
No, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
08:53
I hit a guy, tried to tackle a guy.
08:57
He got the best of you.
08:59
No.
08:59
I turned my head full speed.
09:03
He hit me right on the side.
09:06
Night, night.
09:07
Next thing I heard was you want the sirens
09:10
or you want to ride in quiet?
09:12
See, but that's what adds to my point though.
09:16
That's why a running back doesn't need
09:18
to be on special teams.
09:19
A backup tight end doesn't need to be on special teams.
09:21
It needs to be the one guy who's been training
09:24
for the gladiator run, which I have now named it.
09:28
It is no longer the kickoff.
09:29
It is the gladiator run.
09:30
Why don't you just use American gladiators?
09:32
Why don't you just have them just grab out like a-
09:35
Are they gonna stick?
09:36
You think they're gonna stick with the-
09:36
Yeah.
09:37
Ooh, now you're talking.
09:39
Now we're talking.
09:40
But this person is trained and it's only one guy.
09:44
It's only one guy.
09:45
Well, you have them joust.
09:46
It's, yeah, the joust.
09:48
Why don't you have them just joust for the-
09:51
What's wrong with you?
09:52
For possession.
09:53
What's wrong with you?
09:54
That's Marcos.
09:55
That's what he wants.
09:56
I told you.
09:56
I told you all you need to do is put them 10 yards apart.
10:05
That way the return team has a better chance
10:09
to scheme a return.
10:12
That's it.
10:12
You can leave everything the same.
10:14
If you want to promote more returns,
10:16
you can move the kicker back five yards.
10:18
They still kicking it in the bleachers if they want to.
10:20
But that doesn't solve the injury problem
10:22
because we still have 20 people on the field,
10:25
which increases our chance of injury by 20 times
10:27
as opposed to the gladiator joust.
10:32
There's only two people on the field.
10:34
What's the worst that can happen?
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What's the worst that can happen?
10:39
Even if both of them get injured,
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you know, how many people get injured on the kickoff?
10:42
You got 10 people running this way,
10:44
10 people running that way.
10:45
Let me tell you something.
10:45
Back block, this guy tears an ACL.
10:49
I'm gonna be honest with you.
10:50
I have to be the only person that got concussed
10:53
at a Pro Bowl.
10:56
No, the punter for the Washington football team
11:00
when Sean Taylor decided this was real football,
11:03
not Pro Bowl.
11:04
That's what happened to me.
11:06
I was on run down kickoff and I was just running
11:09
the return that ran out of bounds
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and somebody came and cleaned me out.
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And I told them,
11:16
I told them,
11:18
and I told them,
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see, you better hope and pray
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that you're not in this game
11:26
the next time I come and run a play.
11:32
I hope he took your advice.
11:35
Really, you're gonna fight in Hawaii?
11:37
Yep.
11:38
You're gonna fight in Hawaii, bro.
11:38
You can't fight in Hawaii.
11:39
Look at me.
11:40
You're gonna fight in Hawaii.
11:41
There's a luau going on every night.
11:43
Come on, you're gonna fight in Hawaii.
11:46
Come on, I know all the food that's out there
11:48
and you're gonna fight.
11:49
You're gonna fight.
11:50
Let me explain to you.
11:50
The only times I've ever gotten into it in football
11:56
is the one phrase I hate more than anything.
12:00
What's that?
12:01
Is we all in this together.
12:04
When guys say, we all worried about,
12:07
I'm like, no, you're not.
12:09
Why would you hit me in a Pro Bowl
12:11
on the sidelines like that?
12:13
I'm offended
12:15
because you think I'm not one of you
12:17
or you just think you're gonna
12:19
have something to joke and laugh about.
12:21
Well, no, that ain't happening.
12:24
So, now we have a problem.
12:29
So, I don't know what the other 20 guys are doing,
12:33
but me and you playing football from here on out.
12:40
Anytime in football where I've gotten a feeling
12:44
that, oh, this guy wants to hurt somebody
12:48
or this guy is trying to get his name on TV or whatever
12:54
by hitting somebody like that.
12:57
I'm like, okay, no worries.
12:59
No worries.
13:00
I got something for that.
13:01
What year was this, Leroy?
13:02
Yeah, I gotta look this up.
13:04
No, because it gotta be an NFC linebacker
13:07
if he's talking like that.
13:09
Yes.
13:10
Somebody hit him.
13:10
So, it's gotta be like-
13:11
I know exactly who it was.
13:13
Wilbur Marshall?
13:14
No.
13:16
What year was this?
13:16
Derrick Brooks.
13:17
No, it wasn't Derrick Brooks.
13:18
Not Derrick Brooks.
13:19
It wasn't Singletary.
13:21
Nope.
13:24
I'm not telling you.
13:25
I know you don't gotta tell me.
13:26
There's one guy who knows.
13:28
You don't gotta tell me.
13:29
I'm gonna know.
13:30
There's one guy who knows.
13:31
It ain't LT.
13:32
No.
13:33
There's one guy who knows.
13:35
Tobin knows.
13:36
Tobin knows, all right.
13:38
I don't know.
13:39
I'll find out.
13:40
All right, when we come back-
13:43
Actually, no.
13:43
No, me and Ricky Coop.
13:45
Pat Swilling.
13:46
Not Pat Swilling.
13:47
Not none of them.
13:49
Leroy, I know you're not gonna tell us which linebacker,
13:51
but can you tell us about- Chris Dolan?
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