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'If You're Retiring Next Month...You Just Got Screwed': Schatz Slams Trump After Stock Market Tanks
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3/12/2025
During remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday, Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) spoke about the stock market dropping amid uncertainty surrounding Trump's tariffs.
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00:00
Senator from Hawaii.
00:02
Mr. President, we're 50 days into Donald Trump's second term,
00:07
and the American economy is already in freefall.
00:12
Prices are soaring, stocks are plummeting, and people are panicking about a recession.
00:19
None of this was inevitable.
00:22
All of this is Trump's own making.
00:26
This week, after Trump couldn't categorically rule out that his policies would lead to a recession,
00:31
Nasdaq had its worst day in years, while the Dow Jones dropped a whopping 1,300 points.
00:39
But it's not just the stock market that is taking a hit, it is regular people everywhere.
00:45
Consumer confidence is down by 7 points, 7 points in 50 days since Trump took office,
00:51
and spending has dropped for the first time in two years.
00:55
The dollar is weaker, hiring is slowing, interest rates are unlikely to come down,
01:00
and GDP is expected to shrink this quarter for the first time in three years.
01:08
You know, usually, presidents get too much blame or too much credit for the state of the economy.
01:18
But not this time.
01:21
Trump is going out of his way to plunge the economy into chaos and make life harder for everyone.
01:27
And whether you're buying groceries or trading stocks or hoping to retire next month, you are getting hit.
01:35
When the Commerce Secretary was asked yesterday about a potential recession, he said, quote,
01:41
It's worth it.
01:45
It's worth it.
01:47
They actually think a recession would be worth it.
01:51
And if the economic numbers coming in are bad, if they show that the economy is shrinking or the costs are rising,
01:57
their solution is to cook the books, to make them seem better.
02:02
Because when the data is bad, change it.
02:05
Everybody knows that.
02:07
Trump is getting to work on lowering prices on day one like he said he would.
02:12
The president has spent his days plotting the rebirth of a gilded age with tariffs and tax cuts.
02:21
That was a time when the rich got richer while everyone else got screwed.
02:26
Trump tells a different story.
02:28
Quote, we were at our richest.
02:30
We were at our richest from 1870 to 1913, he said.
02:35
That's when we were a tariff country.
02:38
We were a very wealthy country, and we're going to be that way again, end quote.
02:43
And so I just want to make clear, yes, I'm a partisan.
02:46
Yes, I think Donald Trump is screwing up the economy.
02:49
But it's really important for us to understand they actually do have a theory of the case,
02:53
and that is the golden age from 1870 to 1913.
03:00
I didn't say that.
03:03
The president said that.
03:05
I didn't say, hey, these guys think a recession is worth it.
03:10
They said a recession is worth it.
03:14
It is true that in the gilded age, some people were very wealthy then.
03:19
Robber barons and business tycoons built enormous empires on the backs of working people
03:24
who had little to show for it.
03:26
Profits boomed.
03:28
Billionaires emerged.
03:30
Regular people suffered in tenements and on factory floors, and poverty was everywhere.
03:37
But the gilded age is exactly what the president is trying to recreate.
03:42
Whether it's tariffs on our largest trading partners that will jack up the price of our food
03:47
or our homes or our cars or mass layoffs of the people who inspect our food
03:52
or keep the skies safe or care for our veterans
03:56
or the tax cuts for the richest people to ever exist,
04:00
funded by slashing regular people's health care and hard-earned retirement savings,
04:05
all of this is about taking money from people who don't have enough
04:10
and handing it over to people who already have more than anyone has ever had.
04:19
Whether you voted for Trump or not,
04:23
whether you believed he would be good on the economy or not,
04:27
whatever sort of side of the political, tribal, ideological, partisan, algorithmic divide
04:37
that we are all experiencing in our little filter bubbles on Instagram and TikTok and Twitter
04:42
and wherever else we get our disaggregated information,
04:46
this economy sucks.
04:50
People are paying too much,
04:53
and it is the intentional policy of the president's economic team
05:00
to recreate a time when, until just about 50 days ago,
05:05
everybody agreed we should never go back to that time.
05:09
Kids working on factory floors,
05:12
people working 70 hours and not able to feed their family,
05:18
unprecedented disparity between the extremely wealthy and everybody else.
05:23
That's what they are explicitly going for.
05:27
This is not me putting spin on the ball.
05:30
That's what they're saying.
05:32
That's what the Commerce Secretary is saying.
05:34
That's what the Treasury Secretary is saying.
05:37
That's what the President of the United States is saying.
05:40
This is their plan,
05:42
and it is going according to plan.
05:47
These people have the ability to short things
05:51
and ride the volatility
05:53
and monetize all of the craziness
05:56
and make side deals and do crypto
05:59
and park their assets here and there.
06:01
They make money no matter what.
06:03
But if you're retiring next month
06:06
with a 401K or an IRA or a 403B,
06:11
you just got screwed.
06:14
Trillions of dollars of wealth was eliminated,
06:19
and the President sprung into action.
06:22
Why? For what purpose?
06:25
To help his buddies sell cars on the White House lawn.
06:30
I don't have a preference for electric cars or non-electric cars.
06:34
I don't care. That's fine.
06:37
But what a weird thing to spring into action about
06:39
when everybody's getting kicked in the face,
06:41
economically, except his buddies.
06:45
Mr. President,
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I ask unanimous consent that the following remarks
06:50
appear in a different part of the journal.
06:52
Without objection.
07:01
Mr. President, it wasn't so long ago
07:03
that a senator stood on this floor
07:05
and said the following.
07:07
Foreign aid, as a part of the overall budget,
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is less than 1% of the total amount
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that the U.S. government spends.
07:14
I promise you,
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it is going to be a lot harder to recruit someone
07:18
to anti-Americanism and anti-American terrorism
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if the United States of America
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is the reason one is even alive today.
07:26
End quote.
07:27
The person who said that was not me.
07:29
It wasn't another Democrat.
07:31
It was then-Senator,
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now Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.
07:36
As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
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Marco Rubio was one of the strongest supporters
07:40
of foreign aid,
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and specifically,
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the United States Agency for International Development,
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or USAID.
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He introduced bills to leverage USAID
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to fight human trafficking,
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advance women's economic empowerment,
07:54
and reduce violence globally.
07:56
He called on the agency to, among other things,
07:58
provide humanitarian relief in Colombia,
08:01
support free and fair elections in Burma,
08:03
promote Internet freedom in Cuba,
08:05
advance democratic values in the Indo-Pacific,
08:08
and speaking in 2018, he said, quote,
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anybody who tells you that we can slash foreign aid
08:14
and that will bring us to balance
08:16
is lying to you.
08:18
It's just not true.
08:20
And so, to witness the evisceration of USAID
08:26
and foreign aid more broadly
08:28
under his leadership as Secretary of State
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and acting administrator of USAID
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has been honestly shocking.
08:37
This is someone who just two months ago
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was confirmed by the Senate 99 to 0.
08:43
He is someone who throughout his time in the Senate
08:45
believed in the power and the jurisdiction
08:47
of this institution.
08:49
Someone who, while we disagreed on policy a lot,
08:51
consistently showed moral clarity
08:53
on the basic belief
08:55
that America ought to be the side,
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on the side of the good guys,
08:59
on the side of democracy and freedom.
09:03
But he has sidestepped Congress
09:05
at every turn on this issue.
09:08
As the lead Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee,
09:10
overseeing funding for foreign and national security policy,
09:14
I've been working with my colleagues to press
09:16
Secretary Rubio publicly and privately for answers.
09:20
We've sent numerous letters with dozens of questions,
09:22
virtually all of which have gone unanswered.
09:25
And these aren't, like, these aren't out of the ordinary
09:28
partisan gotcha questions.
09:30
These are the normal things that your clerk
09:32
from the Appropriations Subcommittee would say,
09:34
like, hey, can you tell us what this is
09:36
and please inform us per the law.
09:38
This is, like, normal, mundane,
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work-a-day correspondence.
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Nothing.
09:45
We're supposed to get notifications
09:48
about changes,
09:50
and we've gotten nothing.
09:54
Then on Monday,
09:56
5 a.m. Eastern Time,
09:58
there was a tweet from him saying that the review
10:00
of foreign aid that was supposed to take 90 days
10:02
is now complete,
10:04
and that 5,200 contracts are gone,
10:06
83% of the whole enterprise,
10:08
and they'll consult with Congress
10:10
about what remains.
10:13
But the last part is not true.
10:16
There has been no consultation
10:18
with Congress at all
10:20
during this process.
10:22
There has to be,
10:24
as a matter of law,
10:26
and the Secretary ought to come to Congress
10:28
and explain to us, not Pete Morocco,
10:34
not Pete Morocco,
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who we didn't confirm,
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who most people in the public
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have never heard of,
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who is widely viewed as a controversial figure.
10:44
He came in,
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closed-door briefing, one hour,
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and you know what?
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He had a hard stop, had to go at 11.
10:52
You know what he did at 11?
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He went with federal marshals
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to another federal agency
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and barged in the door,
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and that was found to be illegal.
11:02
That was his hard stop.
11:04
He only had an hour to talk to members
11:06
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
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because he had to get on
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to commandeering a building
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with federal marshals.
11:14
As of today,
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we still have no idea
11:18
which programs were cut
11:20
and which still remain.
11:22
It was like we were in a classified session.
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When you're in a classified session,
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they might give you paper,
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and then their staff,
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politely but firmly,
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take the paper back
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so you don't accidentally
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take a bunch of classified stuff
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out of the building.
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They acted like the stuff they're doing
11:42
on appropriations
11:44
is somehow top secret.
11:46
It's not top secret.
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They just don't want anyone to know.
11:50
They program the funds
11:52
from the programs that were eliminated.
11:54
We're still waiting to hear how he intends
11:56
to operate the remaining programs going forward.
11:58
Weeks and months have passed,
12:00
and we still don't even have
12:02
the most basic information.
12:04
Here's what we do know.
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I'll try to calm down here.
12:10
Here's what we do know.
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Multiple laws are being violated
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at once.
12:16
The Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act
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of 1998, which established
12:20
USAID as an independent agency.
12:22
The Impoundment Control Act,
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which says a president can't delay
12:26
or refuse to spend funds Congress appropriates
12:28
just because they have a different
12:30
policy view.
12:32
The Impoundment Control Act is not ambiguous.
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It says
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that a president cannot decide
12:38
what they spend
12:40
based on a policy preference.
12:42
If it's in the law, it's in the law.
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They've got to execute on it.
12:46
If their opportunity
12:48
to exercise their
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leverage as a separate and co-equal
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branch is to threaten to
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veto a bill if it has something they don't want to
12:56
spend money on, but once that law
12:58
is enacted, their discretion
13:00
is gone.
13:02
The Appropriations Bills for
13:04
State and Foreign Ops, which,
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among other things, sets minimum
13:08
funding levels, prohibits the creation
13:10
of new programs, the suspension
13:12
or elimination of existing programs,
13:14
and changes to agencies without
13:16
prior consultation with
13:18
and notification of Congress. Nobody
13:20
did that.
13:24
You can love these cuts.
13:26
I assume some people love these
13:28
cuts. You can hate these cuts.
13:30
I hate these cuts.
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But one thing you cannot say
13:34
is that this administration is following
13:36
the law and fulfilling
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its duties in consulting
13:40
with Congress. And in the meantime, millions
13:42
of people will die.
13:46
Millions of people will die.
13:48
Our sudden
13:50
withdrawal has pushed people in Syria,
13:52
Sudan, South Africa, and so many other
13:54
places to the verge of
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starvation, disease,
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and death.
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I understand.
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I learned when I was 28
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that when you're in elected office, you better be
14:06
very careful what you say. I said
14:08
some casual words one time.
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I don't remember what I said. I won't repeat them.
14:12
I was on Hawaii News Now, and someone
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asked me a question, and I was tired.
14:16
It was the morning show, and I said
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something just overly
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casually, and it really hurt people.
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And so ever since then,
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I've tried to be as precise as I can be.
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And now that
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I'm in the Senate, even more so do I have
14:30
an obligation to not say
14:32
anything that's untrue, but also to just be
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careful not to be too provocative.
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And so I say this
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unwisely, millions of people will die
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because of the United
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States government executive branch.
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This is a global
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humanitarian catastrophe
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about to happen
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on America's watch.
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When I became ranking
14:56
member of the subcommittee,
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one of the first things I talked to
15:00
Chairman Lindsey Graham about was
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how do we make things work better?
15:04
Where can we better align
15:06
our priorities?
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I am open for business
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if the enterprise is
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lawmaking.
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And I am absolutely opposed
15:16
if the enterprise
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is lawbreaking.
15:20
I yield the floor.
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