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🔵DESASTRE EN BAHÍA BLANCA: ¿QUÉ CUBREN LAS COMPAÑÍAS DE SEGUROS?
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3/12/2025
🔵DESASTRE EN BAHÍA BLANCA: ¿QUÉ CUBREN LAS COMPAÑÍAS DE SEGUROS?
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00:00
With this phrase that the testimony said, the insurance does not cover it, is that so?
00:04
Yes, look, I'm going to talk to you about what is strictly the technicism and what would have to happen for me.
00:11
Let's see.
00:11
They are two different things.
00:13
The insurance, of course, yes, in a vehicle there are different types of coverage.
00:19
There is a coverage that covers the civil responsibility only,
00:23
which are all the damages that you cause with that vehicle to a third party, whether it is a thing or a person.
00:29
And then you can include other types of coverage,
00:33
which, for example, total destruction, in this case,
00:37
would lead you to the coverage that some cases of these that we are looking at can cover you.
00:43
So it all depends on what the coverage is.
00:46
Now, Gabriel, what happens when total destruction is the product of a climatic situation,
00:52
the small letter, what does it say?
00:54
Look, the small letter, in this case, there are companies that have the additional flood,
01:00
but in this case, as it is a catastrophe, the vehicle covers that contemplate total destruction,
01:07
if so, as in the cases that we are looking at, these cars that are with total destruction,
01:12
how is total destruction determined?
01:14
That the repair of the vehicle does not exceed 80% of the value.
01:19
Repeat it so that it is understood.
01:21
That is, if the destruction exceeds 80% of the cost of repair, it no longer covers.
01:28
If the repair of the damages of that vehicle exceeds the value,
01:34
above 80% of the value of that vehicle,
01:38
the company determines total destruction,
01:40
and if they are covered by the coverage,
01:42
the company must compensate that person as total destruction.
01:47
That is, it must be compensated with the total value of the vehicle.
01:50
Now, and this is a coverage, what we call vulgarly, against all risks,
01:55
which also has this section, or any coverage against all risks covers this type of catastrophe?
02:01
No, the difference is that you have a coverage of complete third parties,
02:04
which is the one that is normally used in the market,
02:07
which is the one that supports total destruction.
02:09
The one of all risks protects you from any type of situation that happens to you in the vehicle.
02:14
That is, that person who has a coverage of all risks,
02:18
the coverage will stop any situation,
02:20
a partial damage or a total damage.
02:23
That is the difference.
02:24
Exactly, because the total damage is the one that we must have a repair above 80% of the value.
02:31
The partial damage, that is, a coverage of all risks,
02:34
you have covered any situation that may happen to you in the vehicle.
02:38
Well, and to get an idea of the percentage of insured vehicles,
02:43
how many have this situation covered?
02:46
In percentage, in general, in general.
02:49
Look, there is always a 40% that you can have.
02:55
It all depends on the geographical location and whatever the economic availability.
03:01
Because I think of that 60% that sends it lost.
03:05
That 60%, most likely, and there is more the percentage,
03:10
I do not have a coverage of all risks.
03:12
And there is also a very important percentage that will have the coverage of civil liability only,
03:19
which does not even cover this possibility that we are facing.
03:23
And the loss is total.
03:25
And the loss, but never in catastrophic cases.
03:27
Maybe I think, Gabriel, let's see, what happened has already happened,
03:31
but I think forward, if we do not have to start changing the culture
03:36
regarding insurance and perhaps face a slightly higher expense
03:40
and think of a more complete coverage.
03:43
And yes, the total percentage of the population is very small,
03:48
based on the insured population.
03:51
Of course, when these types of situations happen,
03:53
one sees what is the dimension of insurance coverage.
03:57
And really, here, there is also a bit missing,
04:00
there is a pending that the insurance industry has,
04:03
which is the awareness.
04:04
Spread.
04:05
Spread.
04:06
And well, and we also, the citizens, have to be aware
04:10
that there is coverage that must be had.
04:12
And they also thought the houses, right?
04:14
Sorry, I close with this, because here we see destruction of houses,
04:18
absolutely lost appliances.
04:21
There, if you are not insured, you were.
04:23
There you have to have a family combination,
04:25
which is a punctual coverage of your home,
04:28
which will cover everything that are the specific issues,
04:32
appliances.
04:33
They will not cover the houses,
04:35
because the house has a specific insurance that is called consortium,
04:39
in case they are buildings above all.
04:41
And if they are individual houses.
04:43
And if they are individual houses,
04:45
undoubtedly and indispensably you have to have insurance coverage.
04:49
No, but there is no pocket to hold.
04:51
Of course, what I also want to convey to the people
04:55
who are going through this situation,
04:57
in other cases, the insurance industry was supportive.
05:01
I believe that here is a moment where the entrepreneur has to be supportive,
05:05
beyond the small letter.
05:07
Because the function of the entrepreneur
05:09
is not only that companies have economic success.
05:13
Here is the moment where we have to be supportive.
05:16
The sector will do something with this?
05:18
The sector has always been supportive in these cases.
05:21
I will push from my place,
05:23
of course I have made the decision that yes,
05:26
and I think that mostly, except for exceptions,
05:29
unfortunately, the insurance industry will be supportive.
05:32
What does that solidarity mean?
05:34
To be supportive, not to be tied to the small letter,
05:37
to put on the shoes of the people who are going through this situation,
05:41
and that sometimes it is time to win and sometimes it is time to invest.
05:46
So today is the moment.
05:48
Entrepreneurs not only have a function of making money and leading their companies,
05:55
they have a solidarity function,
05:57
which is here where we really have to be present.
06:01
Gabriel, I have a question because it has to do with the amount of insured that you mentioned,
06:07
that most have civil insurance, let's say, or third parties.
06:13
However, there is a large percentage that directly does not have insurance.
06:17
This is historical in the world of insurance,
06:19
and when you go to housing, it is much bigger.
06:23
In housing?
06:25
Yes, totally, totally.
06:27
And when you go to the centers ...
06:29
And when you go to the interior, even bigger.
06:31
And in the interior, in the second cordon of the interior, even bigger.
06:35
There it goes through a question that we are already talking about an economy,
06:40
we are talking about something much deeper,
06:42
that really there are many things to solve.
06:45
But well, there are also the possibilities of mandatory insurances,
06:49
which are not as expensive as they are.
06:52
But they are not fulfilled.
06:54
They are not fulfilled, they are mandatory.
06:56
Unfortunately, sometimes they are not fulfilled
06:58
because people cannot absorb it because of their economy,
07:01
and sometimes there is a part of irresponsibility as well.
07:04
Let me give you that.
07:06
We add it to Matías de Ambrosio, who is a scientific colleague,
07:10
because when we talk about thinking ahead,
07:13
of reconfiguring all of us,
07:15
of learning, this is what Gabriel was explaining,
07:18
that there is a lot to learn.
07:20
And obviously, if climate change continues on this path,
07:23
there will be more and more to learn.
07:25
Totally. When we talk about climate change,
07:27
these are issues that scientists have been warning about for 20, 30 or 40 years.
07:32
I have been covering these situations for 20 years.
07:35
Yes, even in Bahia Blanca.
07:37
CONICET and UTN warned.
07:39
A report from CONICET in 2012,
07:41
one from UTN in 2018 and ...
07:43
Nothing.
07:44
That is why it is very important to give funding to the scientists
07:47
who work on these issues,
07:49
and then, with the results,
07:51
try to do something with that,
07:53
and try to make the cities planned.
07:56
Because in Latin America we have a situation
07:58
where people are placed where they can,
08:01
in places more or less close to the big cities.
08:04
But there are also closed neighborhoods
08:06
that do not take into account the ecological issue.
08:09
This is very important as well,
08:11
because as we see, in Bahia Blanca
08:13
it was something quite universal.
08:15
It affected upper classes and lower classes.
08:18
The problem is that it can happen at any time.
08:21
And we saw it in the Dana of Valencia.
08:23
Of course.
08:25
So we have droughts, flooding,
08:27
we have problems everywhere,
08:29
we have fires.
08:31
So it is a situation that must be taken into account
08:33
for the future to be planned.
08:35
I wanted to focus on insurance,
08:37
those who are insured.
08:39
Can some insurance companies
08:41
set a 72-hour deadline to file a complaint?
08:43
Maybe they didn't even have a phone,
08:45
and they put it as an excuse
08:47
so as not to cover anything?
08:49
It would be crazy
08:51
if a company
08:53
wanted to reject a disaster
08:55
by late complaint.
08:57
It would be crazy.
08:59
They would even have to report it.
09:01
If that happens to a person,
09:03
they would have to report it.
09:05
Why today?
09:07
People are seeing how they save their lives,
09:09
how they save their belongings.
09:11
There is no possibility for me,
09:13
beyond the fact that I was talking about
09:15
technicality,
09:17
that this is part of the letter
09:19
of a policy,
09:21
that this exists for me.
09:23
There is no place to reject
09:25
a disaster by late complaint.
09:27
And if it happens to someone,
09:29
there is the National Insurance Superintendent,
09:31
who is the entity that controls
09:33
the insurance companies,
09:35
and he should not allow it.
09:37
I imagine, sorry Facu Marina,
09:39
that in Bahia Blanca,
09:41
for example in Coronel Rosales,
09:43
there are small companies,
09:45
there are the big players,
09:47
in the metropolitan area,
09:49
so I imagine for a small company
09:51
they start to put some problems,
09:53
and it is not so easy to bank,
09:55
as you just mentioned,
09:57
that you need help from the nation,
09:59
or the province,
10:01
or the business chambers.
10:03
And above all,
10:05
because of their own economic size,
10:07
they have the possibility of reassuring.
10:09
So it is not an excuse
10:11
the dimension of an insurance company.
10:13
Ah, you mean that they take coverage
10:15
in bigger companies.
10:17
I can have a priority
10:19
to cover,
10:21
but the excess of what I can not cover,
10:23
I can reassure
10:25
and give part of my business.
10:27
That means that I'm staying with a part of my business
10:29
that I should not have created.
10:31
There is a non-taxed society
10:33
between the company
10:35
and the insured.
10:37
Let's say that
10:39
the vehicle
10:41
that was, let's say,
10:43
damaged,
10:45
has no chance of recovery.
10:47
Can not be generated, let's say,
10:49
as a bond, a link between the company
10:51
and the insured,
10:53
to scratch the car and shrink,
10:55
let's say,
10:57
if there is a value of the car armed,
10:59
the value of the scratched car
11:01
and sell as a piece,
11:03
so that the insurer
11:05
somehow accompanies the insured.
11:07
Very good, Luis Enzo.
11:09
Luis, what you tell me,
11:11
today there is the SESBI,
11:13
that all cars that go to scratch
11:15
go to that entity
11:17
that controls the scratch
11:19
of all vehicles.
11:21
Because there has been a lot of handling
11:23
and mismanagement in what is vehicle scratch.
11:25
Of course that has a cost
11:27
and that can accompany that cost
11:29
to the one who has no coverage,
11:31
that at least
11:33
amortizes the damage
11:35
that is causing him.
11:37
And Camil, I think,
11:39
we talk about cars, we talk about houses,
11:41
I think, for example, of enterprises,
11:43
it is a rural area,
11:45
or commercial premises,
11:47
there it operates the same as on a property?
11:49
There it operates the same as on a property.
11:51
Fundamental is that you have
11:53
insurance policy.
11:55
With insurance policy
11:57
it is very difficult to open that fan
11:59
and open arms and be supportive,
12:01
because we do not generate expectations
12:03
that will not be met later.
12:05
But with insurance policy,
12:07
today the insurance industry
12:09
has to be supportive,
12:11
but there has to be insurance policy,
12:13
otherwise it is very complicated.
12:15
The option that you have left
12:17
is the line of credit,
12:19
we know that credits are being launched
12:21
with Tanzablanda, both in the nation
12:23
and in the world,
12:25
it is a credit,
12:27
that is, there is a loan that you are taking
12:29
and you have to pay it back.
12:31
It goes more for the financial industry.
12:33
I keep thinking,
12:35
this is what we were talking about,
12:37
Horacio, if the Argentine economy
12:39
continues with high volumes of informality.
12:41
Yes, thinking of everything insured
12:43
is an option.
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