Which Cap Casualty Players Should The Lions Sign?

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Stoney and Jansen go through the list of probable cap casualty cuts around the league and decide whether the Lions should look to sign them or not.

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00:00Uh, but because of the salary cap that we have in this sport, uh, there are what they

00:05call cap casualties.

00:08Players who will be cut, and usually they're cut, you know, shortly, uh, or a lot of times

00:15they're announced, but they call it like June releases or whatever.

00:18Right, June 1st.

00:19Yes, because of cap ramifications.

00:20I don't understand all the machinations of that, but.

00:23Well, it basically cuts it in half.

00:25Just to give you the, the Cliff Notes version of it, it's a June 1st designation.

00:29So you can cut now that way, whoever it is, and let's just use Aaron Rogers.

00:34They've talked about him.

00:35He'll probably be a June 1st designation.

00:36So he can be a guy that can get into free agency and sign another contract.

00:41But it, it does it instead of taking a $50 million cap hit this year, they basically

00:47could take 25 this year and push 25 of it down to next year and split up the difference.

00:53All right.

00:54So I want to give you some guys who are going to be cup, cup, cap, cap casualties.

01:03Some obviously will have no, I don't think the Lions would be interested in, but you

01:07never know.

01:08Here we go.

01:09Kirk Cousins.

01:10No, they don't need him.

01:12Another quarterback, Derek Carr.

01:14No.

01:15And both of these guys on Monday, we did the, you know, uh, the quarterback carousel, and

01:20I think there'll be in the market and it'll be interesting to see if anybody wants to,

01:26ideally for both of these teams, they would trade them instead of cut them.

01:31But, and it might be a possibility for Carr.

01:34His contract's not quite what Kirk Cousins is.

01:37I think Kirk Cousins is going to have to be one where they just cut them and, and he'll

01:40be a June 1st and they'll just have to bite the bullet on that one.

01:43The next guy I'm going to mention, he would fit in with the quote unquote culture and

01:49grit and all that kind of stuff.

01:51I just don't see them needing him per se, and that'd be Kyle Juszczyk, the fullback

01:56for San Francisco.

01:57Oh, he would be, yeah, I mean, he would definitely fit.

02:00He's a tremendous player and I'd be surprised if he doesn't rework his deal or they don't

02:07rework his deal.

02:08He's such a big part of that offense in San Francisco.

02:11Um, you know, I just, I would be surprised if he ends up becoming available, but I mean,

02:18yeah, culture fit, but I don't necessarily know that that's an expenditure that they

02:23need.

02:24All right.

02:25I'm going to give you, uh, some receivers here.

02:27Okay.

02:28Okay.

02:29Devontae Adams.

02:30No, too much drama.

02:32Tyler Lockett, um, he's 32 years old, so this would be one that I would kick the tires on

02:42because who do they got now?

02:44We've got, um, Jackson Smith and Jigba and obviously, um, DK Metcalf.

02:51So he's, he's that third receiver.

02:54He's $31 million of a cap hit for this year, right?

02:59For, for the Seattle Seahawks, but if he's cut, whoever signs him is not going to take

03:04on any part of that.

03:05Right.

03:06I know.

03:07But so he's set to be there.

03:08The fourth largest cap hit of any was any receiver.

03:11And he's their number three, number three.

03:14And I think he would be a great number three.

03:15It just depend on what you would have to pay him to, um, to be that Josh Reynolds type

03:21of receiver.

03:22Right.

03:23You're assuming that Tim Patrick probably won't be back, right?

03:26I doubt it, but yeah, you know, so they're going to, they're going to be looking for

03:29a number three.

03:30What about Cooper Cupp?

03:32Again, this is, they wanted to trade them and I don't think they're going to find a

03:37trade partner.

03:38So if they cut him, would I rather have Cupp over Lockett?

03:41Yes.

03:42It's going to cost more than Lockett Christian Kirk for the Jaguars.

03:47No.

03:48I mean, he got a ridiculous deal to begin with.

03:51Was it 72 million over four years?

03:53Yeah.

03:54It's just, he's been hurt.

03:56Hasn't been productive.

03:57Yes.

03:58Tight end lines.

03:59Don't need everything.

04:00Everything.

04:01We're going to probably cut.

04:02All right.

04:03Here's an interesting one.

04:04Jack Conklin.

04:05I have to tackle Cleveland.

04:06Now, obviously with Sewell and Decker, you probably don't need a tackle.

04:10No.

04:12But you do need depth at that position.

04:15I don't know.

04:16How old is Jack Conklin right now?

04:17Doesn't say.

04:20But so it would all depend on where he is in his career.

04:24Could he be a swing tackle that could back up both?

04:28He's 30 years old.

04:30So he is approaching that point of his career where he might be a nice piece to add depending

04:37on how much he would cost as a tackle that could back.

04:40Because, I mean, Decker didn't make it through the entire year last year.

04:45And we've had really nice health with Penny Sewell.

04:49At some point, he's going to get dinged up as well.

04:51Do you think the Lions should go after any defensive tackles?

04:55Now, McNeil probably won't start this season.

04:58You got a reader.

05:01There's only one that I would like them to explore if he's cut.

05:06And I don't know if he's on this list.

05:07Okay.

05:08Obviously, being tapped into Washington, I've heard that Jonathan Allen might be.

05:14He's on the list.

05:15Okay.

05:16So if he is...

05:17He was my next one.

05:18If he's cut and he enters free agency.

05:19I know his productivity last year was a little bit down, and that's one of the things we

05:23talked about, both of those defensive tackles.

05:27And the fact that they weren't great stopping the run, I think alongside Lee McNeil with

05:32DJ Reader, Hutch, I think it would be a great addition.

05:36I'm not that familiar with this guy's work, David Onyemada of the Atlanta Falcons.

05:42It says here, dropping Grady Jarrett, also a possibility for a Falcon organization that's

05:46currently almost $12 million overdrawn as his departure would free up $16 million.

05:53He's a run-stuffing nose tackle.

05:55That would be a luxury to have a third.

05:58And you're kind of hoping, praying that...

06:01What's his face?

06:02Project Martin develops into something?

06:03Well, keep praying.

06:04Yeah, I know.

06:06I know you're praying, man.

06:07That's right.

06:08That face.

06:09Oh, Lord, please make Project Martin a good player, please.

06:22So this one kind of goes along the lines of, would you rather have him or Jonathan Allen

06:26if they're both available?

06:27Would you rather have Lockett or Kupp if both are available?

06:32Jonathan Allen's going to cost more.

06:34Cooper Kupp is going to cost more.

06:36But would I rather have Cooper Kupp as a number three receiver?

06:40Absolutely.

06:41Edge Rusher, there's two here with very familiar names.

06:46One is even older than the other.

06:48One is one former Ohio State Buckeye, Joseph Bosa.

06:53No, he's just...

06:57Availability.

06:58Yeah.

06:59I mean, as soon as he walks out of the locker room, I don't know if he slips and falls or

07:03trips, whatever it is.

07:05He's just always hurt.

07:06I would hope they would cut Khalil Mack and Lions would...

07:10I think Khalil might be available, yeah.

07:13And the other one is Vaughn Miller.

07:17Too old.

07:18Too old, too banged up.

07:21Situational pass rusher.

07:22No, no.

07:23I just don't...

07:24I wouldn't trust that he'd be available when you need him most.

07:26Do we need a corner?

07:28Yes.

07:29Okay.

07:30He's the one who's really, really good, but he showed a lot of drama last year.

07:37But he might be motivated if he gets cut, especially because it's in the division to

07:43sign with somebody like the Lions.

07:45Jair Alexander.

07:49I would explore it.

07:50I think he's going to cost more than the Lions really want to pay.

07:55Given the option, all things being equal, would I rather have Jair Alexander or Carlton

08:01Davis?

08:02I'll take Jair Alexander.

08:03Yes.

08:04Although he was injured a lot of this year, too.

08:06He was.

08:07Yeah.

08:08How about Jamal Dean of Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

08:09You're talking corners.

08:10Yeah.

08:11I mean, if we're going to explore the Tampa Bay corner market we did with Carlton Davis,

08:16why not Jamal Dean?

08:17Yeah.

08:18He's a pretty good player.

08:19He's a good player.

08:20Solid player.

08:21Yes.

08:22His cap is $15.1 million, so they'd be willing to maybe cut him.

08:26And the other one on this list is somebody we talked to before, I talked about before,

08:30and that's Darius Slay.

08:31Yeah.

08:32And this would really come down to how long does he want, what's he looking to get out

08:37of the last few years of his career?

08:40He definitely wants to play one more year.

08:41I don't know if he wants to play more than that.

08:43Well, so he's got, he hasn't been cut yet.

08:46He's got one year left on his deal with Philly, and if he is, then yeah, I would definitely

08:51find out, and I'd be willing to go two years with him.

08:55Those conversations behind closed doors, because if he retires in the middle of the contract,

09:01and we've kind of gone down this road different times in the Lions history, the cap hits not

09:09quite as much as if you cut him.

09:12So you could explore different ways to be creative with a contract for Darius Slay.

09:17Yes.

09:18Who do you think the Lions are going to start cutting?

09:22Who are they going to ax?

09:23Yeah.

09:24Well, I mean, they've had, there's a lot of guys that were on prove-it deals.

09:29That's kind of the bread home specialty.

09:31Right.

09:32But they were one-year deals usually, right?

09:34So they're not under contract.

09:35They're not under contract to be cut.

09:37So I mean, I guess I'd have to look at- What about Glasgow?

09:42It all depends on who's available in free agency.

09:45Who can they get at that guard spot?

09:48Do they want to pay more than they're paying him?

09:50Will they get more for what they're paying for?

09:52And they might have to get a guard to replace Zietler possibly too.

09:55Right.

09:56Because Zietler's a free agent.

09:57Yes.

09:58So again, it depends on how many guys they want to add to that.

10:04Or are they good with going with Christian Mahogany at one and Glasgow at the other,

10:11but then getting a swing guard as a backup?

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