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Alamin: Ano nga ba ang scientific approach na applied behavior analysis?
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2/18/2025
Alamin: Ano nga ba ang scientific approach na applied behavior analysis?
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00:00
This morning, we will discuss the role of Applied Behavior Analysis
00:05
in providing support to people with Autism Spectrum Disorder.
00:08
But before that, let's watch this first.
00:12
In the Philippines, there are still many misconceptions about autism.
00:18
But, little by little, more and more families and communities
00:22
are starting to become aware and supportive of people with Autism Spectrum Disorder.
00:28
From programs to support groups,
00:31
the level of awareness and acceptance is increasing.
00:33
Likewise, around the world,
00:35
different countries are continuing to invest in research and therapy
00:39
that can help people with autism
00:42
to have a better quality of life.
00:45
One of the most important methods used in treating and understanding autism
00:51
is Applied Behavior Analysis
00:53
Through ABA,
00:55
it is easier to understand the needs of each individual
01:00
and it helps them to have more opportunities
01:04
to succeed in society.
01:06
It is also important for us to continue to help and share knowledge
01:10
to improve the condition of people with Autism Spectrum Disorder,
01:15
not only in the Philippines, but also around the world.
01:19
That's why this morning,
01:20
let's find out what is the most important approach
01:23
in Applied Behavior Analysis
01:25
for people with Autism Spectrum Disorder
01:28
here in Rise and Shine Philippines.
01:33
And to explain to us the important information about this,
01:36
we will have the Board Certified Behavior Analyst, Ms. Madeline Marcon.
01:41
Good morning and welcome here in Rise and Shine Philippines, Ms. Madeline.
01:45
Hi, good morning, Fifi. Good morning, Dayan.
01:48
We heard that she's from PTV.
01:50
Yes, this is my second time guesting here.
01:53
Welcome back, ma'am. Thank you so much for being with us this morning.
01:56
And also congratulations for being the best morning show.
01:59
Yes, thank you.
02:00
It's a pleasure to be here.
02:03
Thank you also for joining us today.
02:04
Alright, first of all, let's talk about Autism.
02:07
How does it differ from other neurodevelopmental disorders, ma'am?
02:11
Okay, there's not even a Tagalog word for Autism.
02:17
So, it's new, right?
02:19
A lot of people are still unaware of what Autism is.
02:22
But most people say it's just abnormality,
02:27
the way they would describe it.
02:30
But that's different. It's a spectrum.
02:33
That's why it's called Autism Spectrum Disorder.
02:36
It goes from here to there.
02:38
It's like there are deep issues or impairments,
02:44
and there's light.
02:46
But one of the traits is that they don't have eye contact.
02:51
They have a world of their own.
02:53
They don't just play with other kids.
02:57
They play with toys.
03:01
And they can be easily overstimulated.
03:04
Okay.
03:05
Yes, that's why you can see that they melt down easily.
03:08
But in terms of research, ma'am, what are the developments in terms of that?
03:15
Here in the Philippines and also in the foreign context.
03:19
That's why we're introducing ABA.
03:22
Because ABA is the one who leads the research.
03:25
It's almost like 50 years of research.
03:30
That's why it's leading.
03:32
That's why in the United States, that's the number one, most recommended treatment plan for ABA.
03:38
In fact, since 2001,
03:41
there's only one state that provides insurance.
03:44
Until it kept growing, until all over the United States,
03:48
there's already insurance for ABA, which is very good.
03:52
And the reason why I am here is because
03:55
I really love the model that they have for ABA in the United States.
04:00
Because it's not just the kids who look after them.
04:02
They do care for the caregivers and the families.
04:05
Because they're the ones who take care of them.
04:08
So if you don't take care of the caregivers or family members,
04:12
mothers, they're overwhelmed.
04:14
As I'm saying, you cannot pour from an empty cup.
04:17
If you don't take care of the parents and families,
04:20
if you don't see through them,
04:22
how will you be able to provide proper treatment to the child?
04:27
Okay.
04:28
So this ABA, has it been introduced here in our country?
04:33
Yes, it has.
04:34
How wide is its reach?
04:37
That I have to find out.
04:39
Okay.
04:40
That I have to find out.
04:41
I don't know how wide it is.
04:42
But I'm sure there are other, there are therapies already.
04:46
Okay.
04:47
But you know, what I see as a problem is
04:51
the diagnosis is on a long waiting list.
04:57
It's like, kids, you will have to wait for like 6 months
05:01
before being diagnosed.
05:02
Now, if there's no diagnosis,
05:04
the problem is because there's no therapy.
05:06
Because it's the doctors that, you know,
05:08
endorse or recommend therapy.
05:10
So, along the line,
05:12
the parents who are waiting,
05:14
they just don't know what to do.
05:16
And it's extraordinary or alarming
05:22
the traits of such a child.
05:24
How do you help them?
05:25
So that's the reason why I'm here,
05:27
is because I do appreciate the model that we have in the U.S.
05:32
that also looks at the needs of the caregiver.
05:37
And so, that's why we have a seminar coming
05:42
to address those issues too.
05:44
Not just the disability per se,
05:47
but what caregivers can do.
05:49
Okay.
05:50
ADA may sound a bit technical, right?
05:53
But in the layman's perspective,
05:55
how can people understand
05:57
how important this ADA is?
05:59
You're telling us it's all about the caregivers,
06:01
the family members,
06:03
and also people with autism.
06:05
So, on a very layman's perspective,
06:07
just to give us an introduction,
06:11
can you tell us about this?
06:13
Okay.
06:14
One good word for that is scientific.
06:16
Okay.
06:17
ADA is a scientific method and approach
06:20
to treating kids with autism.
06:23
Now, when I say treatment,
06:24
there's no total cure.
06:26
Okay.
06:27
You can reduce the behaviors that you don't want
06:31
and you can develop good behaviors
06:33
so that they can be part of society.
06:36
So, ADA is a treatment plan
06:41
that has 50 years of research.
06:44
That's why doctors in the United States
06:46
prescribe that.
06:47
I've been using this.
06:48
And it's very nice
06:49
because their treatment plan
06:51
provides 40 hours of treatment
06:54
for kids.
06:56
And that's really good
06:57
because you're engaging the kid.
06:59
You know, a child with autism
07:00
will not go to you and talk to you.
07:02
Okay.
07:03
So, you talk to them
07:05
so that, in a way,
07:06
there will be exchanges and interactions
07:09
that will be healthy for them.
07:11
And that's what we need to do.
07:13
We don't leave them in the corner.
07:16
Okay.
07:17
So, it's easy to integrate this
07:18
into the Philippines, ma'am?
07:19
Yes, of course.
07:21
It may sound so scientific,
07:23
but it has practical ways.
07:25
So, for example,
07:26
if I'm going to teach
07:27
in the seminar
07:28
in scientific terms,
07:29
I believe that we can translate this
07:32
into actions.
07:35
Okay.
07:36
It's just a term that's difficult.
07:38
Okay.
07:39
But it can be explained
07:41
and it can be done.
07:42
Okay.
07:43
So, in terms of resources
07:44
and maybe people
07:46
and expertise,
07:48
how can this be integrated in the Philippines?
07:51
We won't have a shortage.
07:53
Okay.
07:54
Okay.
07:55
I think the first solution there
07:56
is awareness.
07:57
We need to be very aware.
07:59
And our program,
08:00
there should be government programs
08:02
to look into this.
08:04
Because as I told you,
08:07
the problem...
08:08
By the way,
08:09
I should say that
08:10
there are 75 million people
08:12
all over the world
08:13
with autism now.
08:15
In the Philippines,
08:16
the recent research says
08:17
one is to 100.
08:19
In the US,
08:20
one is to 36.
08:22
Now, you have that very high numbers.
08:24
The problem is,
08:25
it's diagnosed.
08:27
How can it be non-diagnosed?
08:29
Yes.
08:30
And you still have those problems, right?
08:33
So, we need to look into that.
08:36
We shouldn't neglect that
08:38
because it's very difficult.
08:39
I know if you are a mom
08:40
or a family member
08:42
of a child with autism,
08:43
it's very overwhelming.
08:46
In the first place,
08:47
you don't understand the behavior.
08:48
And so, I'm wearing this.
08:49
Okay.
08:50
This shirt.
08:51
It says...
08:52
All behavior is a form of communication.
08:56
Yes.
08:57
So, you must understand
08:58
what that behavior is.
09:00
That's why it's being studied.
09:01
So, going back to ABA,
09:03
ABA is being studied.
09:05
There are laws of behaviorism
09:08
that became the basis of this treatment.
09:10
Will ABA also help
09:12
to remove the stigma
09:14
for people with autism?
09:16
That's a very nice question
09:17
because I would like to say
09:19
there is autism in every one of us.
09:21
Okay.
09:22
That's what I realized.
09:23
Sometimes, we have our own world.
09:26
Sometimes, we just want to go to a corner
09:29
and just...
09:30
We don't want to get confused at some point.
09:32
But to some level,
09:34
children with autism
09:35
already have significant problems.
09:38
Their levels.
09:40
Okay.
09:41
So...
09:42
Okay.
09:43
Do you have an upcoming seminar?
09:44
Do you have an upcoming...
09:45
Yes.
09:46
Please do invite our viewers.
09:47
Yes, we do.
09:48
On Friday.
09:49
Okay.
09:50
It's coming Friday and Saturday.
09:51
And I'm looking into inviting
09:56
not only therapists,
09:58
teachers,
10:00
but also parents
10:02
because they are the frontline.
10:05
And I'm hoping my vision is
10:08
someday,
10:09
they will become trainers
10:11
when they become experts
10:13
in their children.
10:15
Oh.
10:16
You know, I mean,
10:17
the rate that cuts the problem
10:19
is the shortage.
10:21
Our shortage is not that bad.
10:23
I hope that the treatment
10:27
and the perspective
10:29
of people with autism
10:32
can be improved
10:33
so that more people can be diagnosed
10:34
and be helped.
10:35
Yes, because it's like...
10:37
It's happening, right?
10:39
Or some people are just being denied.
10:41
But...
10:42
The rate of autism is already high.
10:44
So, I believe
10:46
it's just going to be normalized.
10:49
Maybe.
10:50
Alright.
10:51
Yes.
10:52
Thank you so much
10:53
for sharing with us
10:54
important information
10:55
about applied behavior analysis
10:57
for people with autism spectrum disorder.
11:00
Ms. Madeline Marcon,
11:01
thank you so much.
11:02
Hey, thanks for having me.
11:04
Welcome back once again.
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