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You Must Solve These Issues Yourself...’ Fawad Chaudhry Shares Key Discussion with Ambassador
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1/31/2025
You Must Solve These Issues Yourself...’ Fawad Chaudhry Shares Key Discussion with Ambassador
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But now that the fight has gone ahead,
00:03
now here, I mean, Mr. Malik, Mr. Fawad,
00:06
I think he's frozen,
00:07
that if any international guarantors come,
00:10
then this loss of trust,
00:11
that can be reduced,
00:13
some people can take guarantees from each other,
00:14
or what, how will the way get out of here?
00:17
Sir, look, it seems that
00:19
till date, whenever the leadership of the military institution
00:22
and the fights of the elected prime ministers have taken place,
00:25
they have been on power and politics, okay?
00:28
Here, the situation is a little different.
00:31
Here, the post-elite element has also come,
00:33
that DG ISI, he fired them,
00:36
then there was Mr. Faiz Isa,
00:37
against whom he put a reference,
00:39
later he said that I was told,
00:42
but anyway, he became the judge,
00:44
Chief Justice, he became the Army Chief,
00:46
his star came down at that time,
00:48
from the power point of view,
00:50
so there was a double whammy,
00:52
both sides were hit now.
00:54
Now the problem is that the government of the day,
00:57
it is a loss for him if he talks to anyone about Imran Khan,
01:03
if he has any better relationship with the army,
01:06
it is at their expense,
01:07
so he is not interested either,
01:08
he will also jeopardize every dialogue,
01:11
he will also torpedo,
01:12
and on top of that, he can say whatever he wants,
01:13
but he does not want to talk to anyone.
01:15
So this story has become so entangled
01:16
that it has become very difficult to solve now?
01:18
No, nothing is impossible in life,
01:21
politics is called the art of possible,
01:23
I am just saying that I do not have an answer to this,
01:26
who can end mistrust or who can be the guarantor in the middle?
01:30
I am asking you again and again,
01:33
no international guarantor can do this work.
01:35
I wanted to add something to that,
01:36
see, I wanted to add something to the guarantors,
01:41
I spoke to two of my major ambassadors,
01:45
man, look and talk,
01:46
I am aware that you have already had a lot of talks about an ambassador,
01:50
so just look and talk,
01:51
I am your Mohsin, Mr. Bhawar.
01:53
No, absolutely,
01:54
they told me that it is true that traditionally there are only three countries
01:59
that have done such interference in Pakistan,
02:02
it is America, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia,
02:05
but at the moment the problem is that the Arab countries think
02:09
that just looking at Pakistan will cost them a few billion dollars,
02:12
so they are not keen at the moment,
02:14
and America has its own big problems,
02:16
so you have to solve these problems yourself,
02:18
don't look outside.
02:20
I think this is a very wise advice,
02:22
and even if we don't understand this at the moment,
02:25
and the two ambassadors from these three countries,
02:30
yes, absolutely,
02:31
and what the owner has said at the moment,
02:35
what the owner has said is absolutely right,
02:38
that you are in popular power versus physical power,
02:42
and Pakistan is suffering,
02:44
see, we ourselves should also be a little wise,
02:47
we should also realize that this country cannot afford to move forward,
02:52
we have to take one step back,
02:54
we have to normalize some things,
02:55
if we want to move it forward,
02:58
frankly, it will move forward.
03:00
Mr. Bhawar, there is only one minute left,
03:01
I wanted to ask you a question,
03:03
because you always say that PTI should do anything,
03:07
that it should bring Mr. Maulana together,
03:08
and form a joint opposition alliance,
03:09
now finally PTI is on the right track,
03:11
you think Mr. Khan said,
03:12
that there should be no interference,
03:13
it is on the right track,
03:14
this strategy will succeed,
03:15
do you think PTI will succeed?
03:16
This is the last minute.
03:17
This is the strategy,
03:20
this is the strategy,
03:21
and the important thing is that,
03:22
when they are sitting on the topic of negotiations,
03:25
more people should be together,
03:26
people of the same level should be together,
03:28
but the negotiations that are happening at the moment,
03:30
yesterday the owner was saying that,
03:32
see, Gauhar's problem is also there,
03:33
there is also a practical problem,
03:34
it is obvious that they cannot go up by one hand,
03:38
we need such people,
03:40
in my opinion,
03:42
the local guarantors of Pakistan will be better,
03:45
instead of looking at the outside world.
03:47
Very interesting account,
03:48
thank you very much to both the guests.
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