Where do Miami Heat fans stand right now in this situation with Jimmy Butler?

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Where do Miami Heat fans stand right now in this situation with Jimmy Butler, is it time for both parties to part ways?

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00:00We need to delve into it

00:04I'm asking you heat fans

00:08You two guys are heat fans as well

00:12Where are you right now in the Jimmy situation is it to the point where it's like, you know, what?

00:18Maybe this maybe time has run as has run its course. Maybe it's time to for an amicable amicable breakup

00:26Maybe it's time for both parties just to leave. It's been a run. It's been a great run. We've

00:33Achieved the highest of eyes, but we haven't achieved the ultimate high

00:39yeah, but maybe it's time as you are further along in your career and as

00:45Pat getting further along in his career in life. Maybe it's just time for us to

00:51Just to you know reload

00:56Change course, here's what I would say

01:00When they didn't extend him to me that told me all I needed to know

01:08Because

01:10Without extending him

01:15You really don't want to be on the hook for 52 million in

01:20one year

01:22Because it makes it more difficult to trade him

01:26So by not extending him I

01:30Always thought that we would be in this at in this moment

01:37right with

01:39stuff circling because

01:41you don't want him to opt in and if

01:46Think about this if you don't want him to opt in for 52 or whatever that mean

01:51I think it's 52 right around that amount

01:54yes, if you don't want him to opt in for that, the only way you can save money is by extending it and

01:59If you could have extended him you would have did it already. So the fact that you weren't gonna do it

02:04I always thought this was

02:07You know gonna happen now

02:12What doesn't help is?

02:15Jimmy being out

02:17Now the heat have done two things this offseason

02:22Two things that people need to pay attention to

02:26They got longer in and and younger

02:31Right, they got longer and younger right and

02:36And when I ask you because of them seeing that seeing

02:41The difference in Tyler this season that you have

02:45It could have very well been Tyler. You've already given BAM the extension

02:51He's El Capitan for your team, right? Right. You got Tyler you drafted triple J

02:58You have Nico, right?

03:00I have Pele is it maybe that Pat Riley and Eric's bolster in a heat brass have seen?

03:05Okay, they've seen enough of those young guys to say

03:10We but we can we have something special and maybe we can we need another younger

03:18Star

03:21Around the same age or a little bit older then got a lot of got a lot of

03:26Right a lot of juice a lot of blood on the tire. Is it time to do that, right?

03:31Yeah, or the Heat fans that want to get rid of Jimmy Butler or want to trade Jimmy Butler off

03:35My one warning to you is this

03:37Be careful what you wish for you just might here. Here's what here's what I would say. I

03:45Have no question

03:47None in Jimmy's ability. Okay, none whatsoever

03:53However

03:56It's a different basketball team

04:00when Jimmy is playing and

04:03When everybody else is playing

04:06It's a different basketball team. Oh really because their record is very similar than it was for the past two years right now

04:11No, I know but but I'm just saying

04:14I would just say I would just say you don't know when he's gonna miss games

04:19Right. You know what you're gonna get if you trade him

04:24But you do know what Jimmy's capable of well see see here's here's the thing here's the thing I

04:31Don't want to sound

04:34Negative when I say this

04:38Right, but go ahead and lay it on us people are always saying

04:43But when this time comes Jim is gonna be this and when this time comes Jim is gonna be that Jim is 35 years old

04:52What the hell's wrong with y'all?

04:54like you

04:58Yesterday's Jimmy ain't today's Jimmy

05:02But what do they always say about Pat Riley he's in win now mode

05:06What gives you the best chance to win now with this team a healthy Jimmy. There you go

05:11Oh

05:13He can get healthy though, that's

05:16You want Jabari Smith?

05:19Here's what you can't do in sports stop doing this I

05:23Hate when fans do this. I get it

05:26No, you're right when your team is the season last year you assume we what you're gonna do the following year

05:31You're doing it with Jimmy right now

05:33Oh when we get to January when we get to the playoffs when we get here

05:38You can't live your life on when we get there this is gonna happen you need to know certain things

05:44I'm no, I'm saying this you're counting on Jimmy to get healthy. You're okay. And what if he doesn't then what then?

05:52Are you willing are you willing to risk because here is what the ramifications of getting that wrong are

06:00Jimmy I've sent for 52 million or he opts out and go somewhere and you get nothing for him

06:05Are you willing to risk that are you in because wait, I know players I

06:12Know players

06:14That if it don't happen the way they want to

06:18Get the bubble guts more. Oh, I know no best-case scenario

06:21Jimmy gets healthy makes another run in the playoffs worst-case scenario is he opts in and doesn't care at all next year and you're on

06:27the hook for 52 million dollars to the player who has

06:31Again again, here's the deal

06:35Okay

06:36You can say all of these things

06:40but here's what I'm gonna put out to you if you are you run the Miami Heat as

06:48Great as Jimmy's been

06:50you have been in the same spot for the last three years and

06:56What you have hoped for is

07:00Jimmy Butler

07:01to be playoff Jimmy

07:04You cannot run a franchise like that

07:08Okay, because when it goes south you're gonna be on the hook and gonna be in no man's land

07:16no man's land is a

07:18whole bunch of money paying out and

07:23No results on the court

07:25So Jimmy's 35. That's like that's your issue. I'm not fault any Jimmy for being 35

07:34For you guys for you guys to think

07:38That 30 or old Jimmy

07:40He's not even 35 you wrong guys. He's 35 in birth years. Okay, maybe he played for tips

07:46He played for tips. He's actually 41. So so it's not

07:54It's not

07:55That I don't think Jimmy is any good

07:59That's not but what I'm saying is

08:04smart a

08:07Smart organization

08:11Doesn't let it play out to where you have

08:15Coming off the bench D wait

08:17So dollars to doughnuts does Jimmy Butler get traded before the deadline in February? It looks like yes

08:24Most likely. Yes, glad it looks like yes. Oh, yeah, Jimmy's gonna be

08:29And you gotta listen here's the thing with all you saying you're right and this is

08:34This is a really delicate situation. It is because it has nothing it listen

08:39It has nothing to do with Jimmy's ability

08:42But it has to do with Jimmy being 35 having a 52 million dollar bill at the end of the year

08:48It's not about Jimmy's ability and you said not take sending but Dan said it's about Jimmy's availability

08:55and that's another point but

08:57I'm gonna go with the Bill Belichick

09:00Philosophy, I'd rather let go of you a year early then keep you a year late

09:05You know what? I'd rather do that

09:08But so that is the nucleus that you've shown me right now

09:12You've got a young nucleus something to be excited for you don't want to play none of them

09:17But that's a whole nother story. That's a whole different story and you know, but hey, let me ask you

09:24Here's here's what

09:26Here's how you need to look at this situation

09:31What is the best-case scenario

09:34Keeping Jimmy Butler

09:38Well best-case scenario I'm being 100% honest with you what happened two years ago you make it to the NBA Finals, that's hope

09:46They were a eight seed right? Yeah

09:53Okay

09:55When was the last time I ate seed made the finals the mix right a long time 99 it was right

10:02Do you understand right? Do you understand what you're hoping for has only happened twice in 30 years?

10:10Okay, okay now that that's your best-case scenario for something to happen

10:16For the third time or the second time in three years, but it is your best game. Hold on now

10:23What is your worst-case scenario told you 52 million dollar case of bubble guts, okay

10:28No, I'd even playing you don't even make the playoffs. You know this season this season. Yes worst-case scenario

10:35You're a playing team again. Okay now way the two options

10:40Let's not even talk about the 52 million

10:43Way the two options way to two

10:46Way the two options and then tell me

10:50Are you better off?

10:53Maybe trying to shake it up a little bit

10:59Are you better off with a known talent that can lead your team to the finals no

11:06Dude did you just hear what we talked you wanted you you're asking you're hoping for something that to happen

11:13For the second time in three years

11:16That's only happened. That would be three times in 30 years the variables you're eliminating are

11:21It's basically the same team with the same coaching staff in the same organization. You're not you're ignoring those variables. No

11:28What do you mean? No, I'm not

11:30So you're not no, I'm not I'm saying that. Yeah

11:38It happened

11:40But that's an anomaly. That's not the standard

11:45Okay, so you're telling me this team

11:49Okay with the hopes of Jimmy

11:53Playing some of his best basketball again. Yeah, you again. You're making an assumption

12:02This team

12:04Can compete with Boston Cleveland, right

12:10New York New York

12:13Yeah, you throw New York in there Milwaukee, right? They're playing mom

12:18so

12:19So you you're saying this team Orlando?

12:23Can't even beat Orlando. We with it with their C team. What happens when all those guys?

12:29That C team the next night wouldn't beat Boston too. So let's not get too. Okay. Well, I'm just saying

12:35Okay

12:38We're not making a good point for yourself

12:40Me when you say that that C team beat the Bosh's Celtics the next night

12:45Which means if you can't beat Orlando with their start with their starters being out

12:50I'm saying what's gonna happen when they do come back. I'm trying to say don't discount

12:53But I'm not discounted but but that's also proving that the East has gotten better while you remain the same

12:59What I'm saying is this best case scenario NBA Finals worst case scenario your best case scenario your best case scenario

13:07is

13:08an anomaly that happened two years ago and so you can say like you you

13:14Like

13:15That's not the norm

13:17you're making you're making your best case scenario seem like a norm that happens on a

13:24Regular on the regular and it's only happened twice in 30 years

13:28Well, that's why I'm saying this best case scenario worst case scenario. Then there's reality somewhere in

13:35reality

13:36Reality or succeed and you make it into the playoffs and you get a first round you think this team is gonna be a 60

13:41Yes

13:43We're

13:46Every year in December

13:48Right Jimmy's goner. Is that what we're saying? I'm just I'm just look I don't know that

13:54But here's what I do know saying it would make the reasons that the reasons that everybody is giving me

14:00to tell me

14:01Let's wait. Let's go on another Jimmy run

14:04I'm saying if you run the heat and you sitting around waiting for the Jimmy run. You ain't doing your damn job. I

14:12Understand I understand I'm just trying to get to the bottom and trying to see best case worst case

14:17This is how everything's gonna go. I've said this all year

14:19But if the man don't want to play

14:21This to put your two best players in this city

14:27Was gonna their time

14:31Or and their talent was gonna get to the point where the troubles weren't gonna be worth it or the you know the constant

14:39Stories or trolling or all of that. It was gonna get to a point that it was people were gonna

14:47Start backlash and like there's gonna be backlash people are not gonna feel it anymore and that's happened with Jimmy

14:52That's happened with Tyree. The fortunate thing was they gave Tyree to money the heat

14:58Made sure they're like, all right. Yeah. Well, maybe if you do this, yeah you do that

15:03Yeah, you have a contract that's guaranteed next year

15:05but we'll see about giving the extension because

15:09We always say

15:11Once the production once the production

15:15Starts waning the problem's not worth it anymore. Well, that's what we're saying

15:20Buddy best-case scenario. Let the season play out with Jimmy and let Jimmy walk next year

15:26Yeah, but Jimmy cannot that Jimmy cut opt-in and stick it with a 52 million dollar bill that makes it more difficult to move

15:33So what I'm saying to you is is

15:36The heat of weighing all of the options. Okay, you're trying to get something

15:43All right, if they're gonna trade him at all they're trying to get something if you let him walk and

15:50Get nothing for him

15:53You know what? The first comment is gonna be

15:56The first comment is gonna be why didn't you trade Jimmy?

16:00In all fairness in all fairness the way these contracts are now

16:04In order for the player to get what they want. It's gonna have to be a trick

16:08That's why that's why LeBron right like LeBron could assign as a free agent

16:12But they they had to do the trade so in fairness for Jimmy to get also what he wants

16:18He's probably gonna be it's probably gonna have to be a trade so that a sign a trade, right?

16:22Yeah, it's gonna be I don't know if you can do it. I don't know if you can do a sign a trade

16:26Can you give him an extension now and then trade him or

16:32Now I don't think you'll be able to trade them until like maybe sometime right

16:37That's where we are. Now. I don't think you can do a sign a trade

16:41I don't that's why I think the heat of it's gonna be it's gonna happen sticky sticky sticky for the

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