Jimmy Butler Suspended Again By Miami Heat For Bucks and Nets Game After Missing A Flight

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The Miami Heat are back on the hardwood tonight against the Milwaukee Bucks. We discuss how Jimmy Butler is once again suspended... this time for 2 games after he missed the team plane.

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00:00What could you say to those guys that would, they would say, come on back, let's just do

00:05this.

00:06At what point, when do you owe it to those guys also to just let them have a productive

00:10work environment?

00:11Like you.

00:12I'm talking about right now.

00:13Right now.

00:14The only way you can do it is not, is just say, Jimmy's not going to be here.

00:20Just don't have them there anymore.

00:22Right.

00:23Enough.

00:24Like you're going to continue to what?

00:25Weasel your way into suspensions?

00:26How do we find a way to suspend them?

00:27Because here, here's where both sides are.

00:33They want him to bleed.

00:36How do you make a player bleed?

00:37You take his money.

00:39So it's not a matter of just like, listen, you're not playing for us because we wouldn't

00:46pay you two years down the road.

00:49We're not gonna just pay you and tell you to stay at home and then see you on Instagram

00:54and Twitter or whatever, living a good life while we out here, you know, fighting a good

01:01fight.

01:02Yeah.

01:03If that's the way you want it, then we're going to find ways to take that money.

01:09If you don't want to play basketball for us until we can get through this, then we're

01:13not paying you.

01:15So you decide how you want to do this.

01:19And he has decided, yeah, I'm not going to play.

01:22He has decided.

01:24So they have recourse.

01:26They have set themselves up so that you don't have recourse, though, like you can you can

01:30you can take his money.

01:31You get OK.

01:32You can continue to look for ways for take food to take his money.

01:35And then you're going to what?

01:36Bring him back Monday and he's going to play at 10 percent.

01:38No.

01:3915 percent.

01:40No.

01:41Because if these keep adding up, then it can be a bigger suspension.

01:46That's what's going to add up.

01:47Just like what's going to get to the point.

01:49Like they already they already stretched out on a set.

01:52There's a certain way and process you have to go through.

01:59To give him.

02:02A maximum suspension.

02:05And that's the CBA.

02:07That's why they're doing it this way.

02:10So at any point in time, if Jimmy doesn't change his behavior until this is taken care

02:17of.

02:18It'll be done in two weeks.

02:19Because if it's not, it'll be done in two weeks.

02:24What the trade deadline?

02:25Yeah, it maybe.

02:26I mean, they seem pretty like they they're not going to to go and take a deal that they

02:31don't want.

02:32Everybody says that now.

02:33They were they had him away for two weeks.

02:35They didn't make a trade.

02:36Everybody says that now.

02:38Remember the heat when the Dame thing?

02:41We don't have to budge.

02:42He wants to come here and yeah.

02:45But at what point do the heat?

02:46I just want to ask you this.

02:47At what point do the heat have their own stubbornness?

02:51Stop getting in their way.

02:53Like you keep doing this.

02:54Let me just finish.

02:55Like you keep getting to this point.

02:56Not you, but like the franchise guys keep getting to this point where it's like, we're

03:01not going to bend.

03:02We're not going to break.

03:03We're not going to let him win on this.

03:05He's won Leroy, but it's over already.

03:08Like they've gotten to a point where he has to come back because they're going to keep

03:12looking for suspensions.

03:13You're ruining any chance that these players have to have a productive work environment.

03:20Okay.

03:21But here's, here's the other thing that all parties need to understand, especially Jimmy

03:30side, when you're involving three or four teams, that's not an overnight quick thing.

03:38So like, it's not, you can't tell me the heat aren't trying to get this done.

03:46Okay.

03:47But when you involve four, four teams, three or four teams, that doesn't happen overnight.

03:53Why does he need to play for the heat anymore?

03:55Because you, because of the collective bargaining agreement, you can't just tell him to stay

03:58home.

03:59People have done it before.

04:00And I guarantee you, Jimmy Butler's not shooting that down.

04:03If I don't lose my money and I'm not with the team anymore, I have a pretty strong,

04:08I have a pretty strong impression.

04:09He's going to be fine with that, but the heat want to be petty and take his money.

04:14Yeah.

04:15And like, what benefit is that to your players, dude, come on.

04:20It's a money.

04:22That's good.

04:23You would have a problem.

04:26We have this problem throughout sports.

04:29If a guy's making a boatload of money, right.

04:34And not playing well, you're not going to have a problem.

04:37If a guy's making a boatload of money and sitting at home right now, no, I'd rather

04:41just have the team play because he's not trying to win for you, but Leroy, he's not trying

04:45to win.

04:46No, we know this.

04:47You can't force him to play and try and win.

04:49There is nothing that you're saying that isn't true.

04:55There's no to me, but there's no difference to me as, as, as a fan of the team, as a team

05:03There's no difference to me in paying Jimmy Butler to show up in a heat uniform and play

05:0815% just at the level that you can't find me.

05:14There's no difference between that and him not being there anymore and paying him.

05:18There's no difference.

05:19And honestly, the one difference is the positive repercussions of, Hey, no, one's got to deal

05:25with it anymore.

05:26Tyler doesn't got to deal with it anymore.

05:28Bam doesn't have to deal with it anymore.

05:29The rookies don't have to deal with it anymore.

05:31Bo doesn't have to deal with it, which they don't want to.

05:35They don't want to.

05:36They don't want to be in this public pissing match anytime.

05:40There's that, there's that three letter word.

05:45What that's driving all of this ego.

05:48Yeah, that's true.

05:50And you can say it's Jimmy's ego that, Oh, y'all not going to give me what I want.

05:57Watch this.

06:00And Pat's ego saying, Oh, okay, we'll find a way to take your money.

06:05If it's about money, then why are you doing this to not get your money?

06:11Right?

06:12Because this lost money.

06:14And the more Jimmy does this, the harder it is because here, these fines are ridiculous.

06:19You go and you complain, give me the money back.

06:24If this continues, it does make it harder for anyone to say to the Miami heat that you

06:34were unjust, right?

06:37So I think it's, I think it's a situation of if this was all about money, why would

06:47you do something to get fined and not make money?

06:53Right?

06:54Um, sometimes players think this, if I go out and ball, then they won't do nothing and

07:00they'll think that everything's cool.

07:02Well, I think that that probably happened.

07:04Like he probably thought that you guys aren't, you guys aren't moving fast enough for me

07:08to want to get out of here.

07:10And then all of a sudden we have a fake sickness.

07:12And then all of a sudden is, is that he didn't, he couldn't possibly know that with all with

07:18do you hear the complications they have to go through to make this trade work?

07:21I don't want to hear about complications right now.

07:23I don't want to hear about involved so many teams.

07:26That's fine.

07:27Okay.

07:28But after one game, okay, you've already been, you've already been through this twice with

07:32him.

07:33Okay.

07:34The fake sickness, which is what I'm calling it.

07:38Okay.

07:39The fake sickness slash ankle injury where he came back and said, I'll play, did it suspend

07:45him.

07:46Okay.

07:47Comes back.

07:48What do we have him also not playing really, not really.

07:52He's out on the court.

07:53He's not really playing basketball, not to win.

07:57It's not an effect on just him and you it's effect on the other players.

08:05Like when do you start caring about that?

08:07Yes.

08:08I get it.

08:10That's the point.

08:11You didn't, you wanted to know how much would he get it to a point of, I'm not going to

08:15be positive for you guys.

08:17I just, he's already shown you.

08:19I just think that what and how Jimmy has handled this, the only way that you can penalize him

08:36is take his money.

08:39And that's it.

08:40Having him sit on the end of the bench does nothing because that attitude is still in

08:43the locker room.

08:44Yeah.

08:45Having him stay at home valid, but just like, you're going to man, let me get this straight.

08:54We're going to come back on Monday against the magic and we're going to try this again.

09:00If he's not traded.

09:01Yeah.

09:02So, and then he gets, that's so dumb.

09:05That's so dumb.

09:06I what an incredible waste of time.

09:09I get it.

09:10But if, if, if you were like, I, it's hard to explain, but you are paying

09:20this man, $48 million, what now?

09:26Right.

09:27So try to get some of it back.

09:28Great.

09:29Congratulations.

09:29That's what it's about.

09:30Congratulations.

09:31Like where, where'd he go?

09:32You really showed us.

09:33You really, Hey, it's not a matter of showing.

09:36It's not a matter of showing, um, you, it's a matter of showing.

09:42Okay.

09:42But here's the thing.

09:43Like the only other argument would be, Oh, well, we don't

09:46want to lose leverage in trades.

09:47Dude.

09:47It's over with that.

09:50The leverage in trade, which I was right.

09:55There wasn't no.

09:57Yeah.

09:57He went somewhere else.

09:58I understand clearly.

10:00No.

10:00Okay.

10:01But that was another play where the heat got too stubborn, got too cute

10:04and they didn't get Damien Lillard.

10:05That's what you think it was.

10:07What do you think it was?

10:08Okay.

10:08But what do you think it was?

10:10All right.

10:10You don't think that was a play?

10:12Yeah.

10:12I think, I think the heat should have just, everybody should have just

10:15been quiet and the deal would have got done instead of walking.

10:18So now we're going to, so now we're walking around.

10:20So Pat Riley feels good today.

10:22Cause he got to be bothered for another couple of games.

10:24But what about what Tyler and man have to deal with on Monday?

10:26Right.

10:26What about what?

10:27What about Nicola Jovich?

10:29That's my biggest problem.

10:30Okay.

10:30So like, but, but at what point does the heat talk about the cost of doing

10:34business when it comes to your team, the actual team that you want to play?

10:38I'm here.

10:42I don't, I don't know if an injury is not involved.

10:48If you can just tell a guy to stay home, I'm sure they could.

10:51No, I'm telling you.

10:52I think it has, it has some, the collective bargaining.

10:57I don't think you can do that.

10:59Okay.

10:59And to everybody who's saying it ain't my money.

11:02Uh, it's you're not getting anything for your money.

11:07He's not trying to win basketball games.

11:12Like that's the thing that's crazy to me.

11:14You know what else is crazy?

11:16You don't want it to pay this guy.

11:19But I, and I would have been right.

11:21No, you wouldn't.

11:21I would have been right.

11:22No, you wouldn't.

11:23I would have been because you never would have happened.

11:26Wait, wait.

11:26It never would have happened.

11:28Never would have happened.

11:29If you're saying that you're not paying for a guy to play basketball,

11:36stop acting like this is the same thing.

11:37You're doing a Peter Pan argument right now.

11:39Stop acting like he would have acted the same if it would've gotten his money.

11:42I didn't say that.

11:43But I say, but you, would he have played more games than he's

11:45been playing the last three years?

11:47Yeah.

11:47Based on what?

11:49Oh my.

11:51Do you not understand this was one of the major crux of this problem of this

11:57issue of why Jimmy wouldn't get paid because he wasn't playing enough games.

12:05Great.

12:05And so now I have them out there for what?

12:10To sell what?

12:10A few vice jerseys.

12:14Pat's writing this, but then he, no, no, no.

12:19Pat's right in this everything, but his handling of this is nasty work.

12:26Dude, you knew you weren't going to give this man another contract.

12:29Should have did something last year.

12:30You should have did something before the season started.

12:33You knew this.

12:34You had this crazy idea that, Oh, well, one more, let's go.

12:38One more, one last run.

12:40One.

12:40Hoorah.

12:40And you know, that was crazy.

12:42We all know Pat is the person who does stuff before this gets to this point.

12:47And you let this get to this point.

12:49That's net that's on you.

12:51Now you're like, I'm laughing at you now because this high, this, this

12:56esteemed well-run organization is doing to me, Peter pan stuff right now.

13:01Like you just said, can I say this though?

13:03Can I just say this though?

13:07They probably had a conversation with Jimmy in the summer.

13:12Right.

13:14And that conversation, like we heard when he came in that I'm a just ball

13:21and it doesn't matter, and maybe they believe them because they have that

13:25relationship, right?

13:27And that's where it went sideways because like you said, he might've got

13:33tweaked a little bit.

13:33He said, Oh, I'm not doing this.

13:35I'm going to ruin my

13:36something.

13:37Changing the, because the first time the word was good, but he didn't

13:40start the season loafing it.

13:42Right.

13:42But that's what I'm saying.

13:43So that is not, no, no, no.

13:46See, while I'm not assuming I'm not this summer, when we talked about this,

13:52Jimmy said, I'm just going to go out and ball.

13:57He said those words.

14:00And so from that standpoint, from that standpoint, maybe that he got

14:07duped, which is something that never happens to Pat.

14:10No, the time they got duped is when he came back from fake sickness.

14:15That's when they got duped.

14:16Right.

14:16It'd been getting duped the last few years, but that's what I'm saying.

14:19Like, you're not going to, what do you do?

14:21What's going to happen next?

14:22Here's the next one.

14:22Vlad.

14:25Jimmy bowler, Pat Riley, McGarris and have a sit down without him.

14:27Silver Jimmy bowler promises.

14:28He's going to play.

14:29And then Jimmy Butler puts up 12 points, no assists, no rebounds.

14:35Okay.

14:35Here's the other thing.

14:36You can't make a guy.

14:37You can't, you can, you can make him go out in uniform and you can have Mike

14:40Diamante introduce him and you can have the flame throwers shooting, shooting

14:44up from the sky, but you can't make that guy play winning basketball.

14:48So let me ask you this, cause this is going to be very interesting.

14:51So apparently Jimmy has taken his own.

14:55Accommodations to fly without the team.

14:58He's done it before, but he doesn't do it all the time.

15:00He doesn't do it all the time, but there's been precedents.

15:02There's no precedent.

15:04But it's, but it's, if you have a team policy, it's the, when

15:08do you overlook that precedent?

15:10What if they told him?

15:11Be on that probably.

15:13I don't know.

15:14I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not here to debate whether Jimmy Butler broke

15:17a rule or not, but what I think is silly is you were looking for a reason.

15:22That's what I'm saying.

15:22Like we're looking for a reason.

15:23Yeah.

15:24Because it's like, if I'm Jim, but you've done it before, I've done it before.

15:27This is not nothing new.

15:30And there's a possibility that the game might not even be played.

15:34You know what I mean?

15:35Cause Milwaukee's and by the way, I'm not assuming what Jimmy said.

15:39That is what Jimmy said.

15:42Jimmy talked about not getting a contract before the season.

15:45I'm going to hoop.

15:46I'm right.

15:47Yep.

15:47So that, that, that's not, we gotta, uh, we gotta take a break.

15:50We'll take a break.

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