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Madaris Registration Bil. .. Hukoomat Molana Ko Mananay Mein Kamyaab Hogayi. .?
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12/21/2024
Madaris Registration Bil. .. Hukoomat Molana Ko Mananay Mein Kamyaab Hogayi. .?
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00:00
Kamran Ustad, we will start with you.
00:03
First of all, tell me, this issue has been stuck for a long time,
00:07
whether Madaris should register under the Societies Act or not.
00:11
Then we saw a difference of opinion in Ulema.
00:14
I had put this issue in front of you earlier as well.
00:17
Tahir Ashrafi is saying no, Education Ministry.
00:20
You were saying Commerce Ministry.
00:22
Now, under the Societies Act,
00:25
has the issue of registering Madaris been resolved?
00:30
Or is it still a long way to go?
00:34
I think things are firm.
00:39
And since Barrister Sahib is sitting with you,
00:41
he is in a better position than me.
00:43
He will be able to tell you.
00:45
Yesterday, I met with the Prime Minister,
00:49
and after that, there were two days when there were no working days.
00:55
So, on Monday and Tuesday, I think,
00:58
there is hope that things will get better.
01:02
What do you mean by better?
01:05
Tahir Ashrafi is talking about you.
01:08
I think he has given instructions to the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs
01:15
to implement whatever is in the scope of the law.
01:20
So, this is what is better.
01:23
So, Saint Sahib, the demands that you made,
01:26
have they been accepted as they are?
01:29
Or is there a difference of opinion?
01:34
Things are firm.
01:36
When things are firm,
01:38
if there is a demand,
01:42
then it means that there is an agreement between us.
01:47
If you made a demand,
01:49
or if he made a demand,
01:51
Saint Sahib, just tell us.
01:53
Then I will go to Barrister Sahib.
01:55
If there is a demand,
01:58
then it means that it is also firm.
02:01
So, I will say yes.
02:02
Things will be fixed.
02:03
You will have to change a few things.
02:05
I will say no.
02:06
I will say no.
02:07
Barrister Sahib, please confirm.
02:09
Senator Sahib said it beautifully.
02:11
He said no, no.
02:12
But I will not say yes.
02:13
So, you say yes.
02:14
Has there been a big change?
02:16
Thank you very much, Anika Sahiba.
02:19
What Senator Kamran Murtaza said,
02:22
I wholeheartedly adopt his arguments.
02:27
Because he is also a well-known lawyer.
02:31
So, in this discussion or debate,
02:35
I will adopt his arguments.
02:37
Article 75 of the Constitution
02:40
regulates it.
02:41
We had a commitment to the Parliament.
02:45
We did not go back from the commitment.
02:47
I will come to the commitment.
02:48
Barrister Sahib, I am sorry,
02:49
I am cutting short.
02:50
I will come to the commitment.
02:51
It was a commitment.
02:52
Why was it not fulfilled?
02:53
I will come to that as well.
02:54
First, tell me,
02:55
has there been a big change or not?
02:57
What he demanded,
02:59
as it is, you said yes.
03:01
Or have things changed?
03:02
Look, the way I,
03:03
Senator Kamran Murtaza,
03:04
You will not adopt his argument,
03:06
No.
03:07
I will say this.
03:09
Look, when there is a discussion,
03:11
and there was a meeting yesterday,
03:12
it was a very positive meeting.
03:13
It was a very positive thing.
03:15
You know, we moved past things,
03:18
and there was a discussion.
03:19
And in the discussion,
03:20
things were decided.
03:21
Now it is time to say this.
03:23
And in a day or two,
03:24
the result will be in front of you.
03:25
Do you think the government
03:26
handled it properly?
03:30
Look, there is a human attitude.
03:32
So, sometimes there is a human attitude.
03:34
Sometimes it happens.
03:35
Sometimes there is a distance
03:36
between friends.
03:38
Sometimes,
03:39
things are not understood.
03:41
Or we do not understand.
03:43
Or another friend does not understand.
03:45
Or there is a problem
03:46
in making us understand.
03:48
So, ultimately,
03:49
if the matter ends well,
03:51
then everything is fine.
03:54
But Sahil sahib,
03:55
if there was a discussion
03:56
between two friends,
03:57
If the ultimate is correct,
03:59
If there was a discussion
04:00
between two friends,
04:02
and both of them
04:03
were understanding each other,
04:04
then was there a third friend
04:05
who was not understanding?
04:09
So, it is possible
04:10
that he was also our third friend.
04:13
So, let me understand
04:14
that you were also agreeable,
04:15
the government was also agreeable,
04:17
but the third friend was not agreeable.
04:20
No, no.
04:21
Mr. Ashrafi was a little...
04:22
Mr. Ashrafi's matter
04:23
is also getting corrected,
04:24
Inshallah.
04:25
How is it getting corrected?
04:26
The faction he is talking about.
04:30
Allah will do good.
04:32
Wait for a couple of days.
04:33
What is the hurry?
04:34
Mr. Hussain,
04:35
Allah always does good,
04:36
Alhamdulillah.
04:37
But I want to ask,
04:39
that the concerns
04:40
that Mr. Tahir Ashrafi had,
04:42
how are they getting corrected?
04:44
With keeping an eye on,
04:46
your concerns are also getting corrected.
04:48
But your concerns
04:49
and his concerns
04:50
were not matching
04:52
in my own program.
04:56
No, no.
04:57
He was saying
04:58
that we have no objection on you.
05:00
We say that we have no objection on you.
05:01
We don't have any fight.
05:03
His statement was also there.
05:04
Yes.
05:05
When the atmosphere of the fight
05:07
was visible,
05:08
then sometimes
05:09
the hype is created
05:10
by sitting on the media.
05:11
Sometimes we talk harshly,
05:13
sometimes other friends
05:14
talk harshly.
05:15
So,
05:16
when it is realized,
05:18
then the matter
05:19
also gets corrected.
05:20
So, Inshallah,
05:22
it will be on Monday or Tuesday.
05:24
The matter will be on Monday or Tuesday.
05:26
So, you confirm,
05:27
Mr. Bairsta,
05:28
Monday or Tuesday, max?
05:29
Within this week,
05:30
Inshallah,
05:31
it will be done.
05:32
No, don't say within this week.
05:33
He is saying Monday or Tuesday.
05:34
You don't take it further.
05:35
No, I am not taking it further.
05:36
Not at all.
05:37
We have strict instructions
05:38
and instructions have been issued.
05:39
From the Prime Minister?
05:40
Yes, of course.
05:41
And this has also been
05:42
widely reported on the media.
05:43
And there is no such thing in this.
05:44
So,
05:45
when the office will open
05:46
on Monday,
05:47
then we will definitely
05:48
do it.
05:49
Whether it is Monday or Tuesday,
05:50
or Wednesday.
05:51
Wednesday can also go.
05:52
Look,
05:53
Monday or Tuesday,
05:54
our effort is that
05:55
as soon as possible,
05:56
with happiness,
05:57
this whole matter,
05:58
which has been discussed,
05:59
which has been discussed,
06:00
which has been discussed,
06:01
keeping them in mind,
06:02
this will lead to a good
06:03
win-win situation.
06:04
Okay,
06:05
tell me this also,
06:06
what took you so long?
06:07
You took a lot of time
06:08
to come here.
06:09
No.
06:10
Why?
06:11
Look,
06:12
one thing is for sure,
06:13
as the Senator said,
06:14
both are friends.
06:15
I think
06:16
we got lost
06:17
in translation.
06:18
This translation
06:19
was being done
06:20
by the President?
06:21
Who was doing this translation?
06:22
He is also speaking Urdu.
06:23
You are also speaking Urdu.
06:24
Which translation?
06:25
Look,
06:26
it is possible
06:27
that someone
06:28
who wants to explain
06:29
what we want to explain,
06:30
or we want to explain
06:31
what we want to explain,
06:32
or we want to explain
06:33
what you wanted to explain,
06:34
which Mr. Maulana
06:35
did not understand.
06:36
So,
06:37
we sat down,
06:38
we talked,
06:39
when we sat face to face
06:40
and talked,
06:41
when the point of concern
06:42
or point of discussion
06:43
came up,
06:44
then a way
06:45
came out.
06:46
I will say
06:47
that
06:48
in the same way.
06:49
I want to find
06:50
the way of that way.
06:51
How did that way
06:52
come out?
06:53
That way,
06:54
you will see
06:55
on Monday or Tuesday
06:56
how that way
06:57
came out.
06:58
You will not give
06:59
breaking in my show.
07:00
I think you have promised.
07:01
No, no,
07:02
this is not a matter
07:03
of breaking.
07:04
Look,
07:05
this is a very sensitive issue.
07:06
In this,
07:07
Mr. Maulana
07:08
also talked
07:09
on the floor
07:10
of the house.
07:11
And,
07:12
even then,
07:13
we gave a lot of weightage
07:14
to his talk.
07:15
And,
07:16
even then,
07:17
we did not make him
07:18
believe.
07:19
There was so much weightage
07:20
that he did not come
07:21
on the 26th.
07:22
You promised on the
07:23
amendment.
07:24
After that,
07:25
you made him
07:26
believe.
07:27
And,
07:28
even then,
07:29
we did our
07:30
work.
07:31
If we are told
07:32
or if you are
07:33
saying that
07:34
we have
07:35
cheated or
07:36
there was
07:37
a backstabbing
07:38
talk.
07:39
No,
07:40
not at all.
07:41
Please tell me
07:42
that Mr. Maulana
07:43
made you
07:44
wait a lot.
07:45
So,
07:46
you said
07:47
now it is
07:48
our turn
07:49
and we
07:50
make you
07:51
wait a little.
07:52
This did not
07:53
happen.
07:54
Your smile
07:55
is very
07:56
beautiful.
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