" 26 Aini Tarmeem Ke Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Ko Kaha Tha Ke Hukoomat Dhoka Day Gi " Hamid Raza

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00:00Earlier, there was a clear position that your party, I am talking about Tehreek-e-Insaaf because you are very close to it,

00:06wants to talk only to Muktadira, to the establishment.

00:10So, should we consider this as a shift in position, that you can be a political entity,

00:15on the other hand, you can be a political nominee, with whom you are talking.

00:18Now, you are ready to talk to PMLN, People's Party. Is this my fair assessment?

00:25Earlier, we used to say that those who have the power, they should be interviewed.

00:32During this time, the government, for the last 4-5 months, has been creating a ruckus,

00:38that we have the power, everything is happening as per our will,

00:42there were protests on TV, there were statements,

00:45everyone was proving themselves as Aristotle, as Sultan Rai, so let's go.

00:52We are ready to give them the chance now.

00:54They have to show their authority, they have to prove their authority,

00:57that yes, they do have the authority.

00:59If the government says that it can't make a judicial commission,

01:02then our narrative wins.

01:04We used to say that this government doesn't have the capacity.

01:07The power is somewhere else.

01:09But the narrative of the government also won.

01:11You were saying that we are talking to politicians,

01:14now you are saying that we make a political committee, we talk to the government.

01:17In between, you have brought that too.

01:19So, the narrative of the government has also won.

01:21Let me tell you one thing,

01:23the committee, out of the 5 candidates, 4 of them did not meet Mr. Khan.

01:29Mr. Asad Kaisar could not come because he did not have bail.

01:33After that, Mr. Umar Ayub was arrested.

01:35The day the committee was formed, 2-3 hours after that.

01:38After that, Mr. Umar Ayub came back yesterday.

01:40My case was in Faisalabad.

01:41Today, I was charged with an individual case.

01:43So, Mr. Khan has given all the direction to Mr. Umar Ayub.

01:47Now, Mr. Umar Ayub has to brief us.

01:49Now, I am moving back towards Islamabad.

01:51We are hoping that tomorrow at some time,

01:54if all the coordination is done by night,

01:57then we will sit and settle all these things.

01:59Then, any one of us will be able to pass a comment

02:03that what are the exact directions of Mr. Khan to Mr. Umar Ayub

02:08and how we have to negotiate on which grounds.

02:12So, I guess we should wait till tomorrow.

02:14Okay, you must be seeing the political activities in Maulana Fazl Rehman's house.

02:18Mr. Rana Sanaullah, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,

02:23and the Prime Minister of the government call him.

02:25We have not seen any engagement of Tariq-e-Insaaf at least on the mainstream in these days.

02:32Maulana is upset with the government.

02:34This is the best opportunity to form an alliance and involve them in a movement.

02:39We are not seeing your Jamaat as active as it was earlier.

02:42Inshallah, they will come.

02:44They will come soon.

02:46This is not a problem.

02:47The problem is that when the 26th amendment was passed,

02:52the government had made a commitment to Maulana Saab regarding Madaras Reforms.

02:57We had told Maulana Saab that he will deceive us.

03:02How many times will you want to be deceived by a deceiver?

03:05And the government has proved with its Act that they have deceived JUIF and Maulana Fazl Rehman.

03:10So, now they are going there to beg for mercy.

03:14I think the deadline of 8th August has been given.

03:17If it is not done by then, they are also coming to Islamabad.

03:20I am saying that your goals are very aligned.

03:23You are upset, Maulana Saab is upset.

03:25They talk about coming to Islamabad.

03:27You talk about civil disobedience.

03:29So, I can't see that in between.

03:31That's why I asked you.

03:32Everyone is going.

03:33You are not visible there.

03:35Hopefully, in a day or two.

03:37We have seen that the situation has developed after 24th.

03:40We are still stuck in it.

03:43There are different FIRs.

03:45There is a rest bail.

03:47Then there are Omni bails.

03:49There are some trials.

03:51Inshallah, you will see everything in the next 24-48 hours.

03:56Faisal Wawda Saab is also talking.

03:58Then we are guessing from the statements of the government people.

04:01Talk to the interlocutors.

04:03Do you think that Shibaz Saab and some fight or some distance is going on?

04:08Do you think that the same page is a little weak?

04:12Or is it the same?

04:14Shibaz Sharif, Bilawal and the same page.

04:17Do you think it is intact?

04:19Or is there a problem in it?

04:21What can I say about Faisal Wawda?

04:24He is a non-serious person.

04:26We consider him a messenger.

04:28That's why we quote him.

04:30We consider him a messenger.

04:32No, no.

04:33What is that messenger?

04:35I think that the qualities that have been given in terms of service,

04:40in terms of obedience,

04:42in terms of boot-polishing,

04:44by the Prime Minister,

04:46no politician in Pakistan can reach that.

04:48I don't think so.

04:50They will set a new example of obedience.

04:52I don't think so.

04:54Faisal Wawda Saab may have been given something.

04:58Or he must have made a hobby himself.

05:00He met a few people and brought himself into the media.

05:05I wanted to talk about his message more than his personality.

05:09Do you feel that way?

05:11People's Party is also saying that if PTI talks to us,

05:14then we can see.

05:16Is there any collaboration in the future?

05:19If we have to talk,

05:21then the mandate of PTI is with Imran Khan.

05:24If we feel the need, then we will do it ourselves.

05:26We don't need Wawda Saab for that.

05:28Thank you very much.

05:30Thank you very much.

06:00We will talk to the politicians.

06:02There are a lot of questions.

06:04We will see in the coming days.

06:06There will be clarity.

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