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" 26 Aini Tarmeem Ke Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Ko Kaha Tha Ke Hukoomat Dhoka Day Gi " Hamid Raza
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12/7/2024
" 26 Aini Tarmeem Ke Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Ko Kaha Tha Ke Hukoomat Dhoka Day Gi " Hamid Raza
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00:00
Earlier, there was a clear position that your party, I am talking about Tehreek-e-Insaaf because you are very close to it,
00:06
wants to talk only to Muktadira, to the establishment.
00:10
So, should we consider this as a shift in position, that you can be a political entity,
00:15
on the other hand, you can be a political nominee, with whom you are talking.
00:18
Now, you are ready to talk to PMLN, People's Party. Is this my fair assessment?
00:25
Earlier, we used to say that those who have the power, they should be interviewed.
00:32
During this time, the government, for the last 4-5 months, has been creating a ruckus,
00:38
that we have the power, everything is happening as per our will,
00:42
there were protests on TV, there were statements,
00:45
everyone was proving themselves as Aristotle, as Sultan Rai, so let's go.
00:52
We are ready to give them the chance now.
00:54
They have to show their authority, they have to prove their authority,
00:57
that yes, they do have the authority.
00:59
If the government says that it can't make a judicial commission,
01:02
then our narrative wins.
01:04
We used to say that this government doesn't have the capacity.
01:07
The power is somewhere else.
01:09
But the narrative of the government also won.
01:11
You were saying that we are talking to politicians,
01:14
now you are saying that we make a political committee, we talk to the government.
01:17
In between, you have brought that too.
01:19
So, the narrative of the government has also won.
01:21
Let me tell you one thing,
01:23
the committee, out of the 5 candidates, 4 of them did not meet Mr. Khan.
01:29
Mr. Asad Kaisar could not come because he did not have bail.
01:33
After that, Mr. Umar Ayub was arrested.
01:35
The day the committee was formed, 2-3 hours after that.
01:38
After that, Mr. Umar Ayub came back yesterday.
01:40
My case was in Faisalabad.
01:41
Today, I was charged with an individual case.
01:43
So, Mr. Khan has given all the direction to Mr. Umar Ayub.
01:47
Now, Mr. Umar Ayub has to brief us.
01:49
Now, I am moving back towards Islamabad.
01:51
We are hoping that tomorrow at some time,
01:54
if all the coordination is done by night,
01:57
then we will sit and settle all these things.
01:59
Then, any one of us will be able to pass a comment
02:03
that what are the exact directions of Mr. Khan to Mr. Umar Ayub
02:08
and how we have to negotiate on which grounds.
02:12
So, I guess we should wait till tomorrow.
02:14
Okay, you must be seeing the political activities in Maulana Fazl Rehman's house.
02:18
Mr. Rana Sanaullah, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,
02:23
and the Prime Minister of the government call him.
02:25
We have not seen any engagement of Tariq-e-Insaaf at least on the mainstream in these days.
02:32
Maulana is upset with the government.
02:34
This is the best opportunity to form an alliance and involve them in a movement.
02:39
We are not seeing your Jamaat as active as it was earlier.
02:42
Inshallah, they will come.
02:44
They will come soon.
02:46
This is not a problem.
02:47
The problem is that when the 26th amendment was passed,
02:52
the government had made a commitment to Maulana Saab regarding Madaras Reforms.
02:57
We had told Maulana Saab that he will deceive us.
03:02
How many times will you want to be deceived by a deceiver?
03:05
And the government has proved with its Act that they have deceived JUIF and Maulana Fazl Rehman.
03:10
So, now they are going there to beg for mercy.
03:14
I think the deadline of 8th August has been given.
03:17
If it is not done by then, they are also coming to Islamabad.
03:20
I am saying that your goals are very aligned.
03:23
You are upset, Maulana Saab is upset.
03:25
They talk about coming to Islamabad.
03:27
You talk about civil disobedience.
03:29
So, I can't see that in between.
03:31
That's why I asked you.
03:32
Everyone is going.
03:33
You are not visible there.
03:35
Hopefully, in a day or two.
03:37
We have seen that the situation has developed after 24th.
03:40
We are still stuck in it.
03:43
There are different FIRs.
03:45
There is a rest bail.
03:47
Then there are Omni bails.
03:49
There are some trials.
03:51
Inshallah, you will see everything in the next 24-48 hours.
03:56
Faisal Wawda Saab is also talking.
03:58
Then we are guessing from the statements of the government people.
04:01
Talk to the interlocutors.
04:03
Do you think that Shibaz Saab and some fight or some distance is going on?
04:08
Do you think that the same page is a little weak?
04:12
Or is it the same?
04:14
Shibaz Sharif, Bilawal and the same page.
04:17
Do you think it is intact?
04:19
Or is there a problem in it?
04:21
What can I say about Faisal Wawda?
04:24
He is a non-serious person.
04:26
We consider him a messenger.
04:28
That's why we quote him.
04:30
We consider him a messenger.
04:32
No, no.
04:33
What is that messenger?
04:35
I think that the qualities that have been given in terms of service,
04:40
in terms of obedience,
04:42
in terms of boot-polishing,
04:44
by the Prime Minister,
04:46
no politician in Pakistan can reach that.
04:48
I don't think so.
04:50
They will set a new example of obedience.
04:52
I don't think so.
04:54
Faisal Wawda Saab may have been given something.
04:58
Or he must have made a hobby himself.
05:00
He met a few people and brought himself into the media.
05:05
I wanted to talk about his message more than his personality.
05:09
Do you feel that way?
05:11
People's Party is also saying that if PTI talks to us,
05:14
then we can see.
05:16
Is there any collaboration in the future?
05:19
If we have to talk,
05:21
then the mandate of PTI is with Imran Khan.
05:24
If we feel the need, then we will do it ourselves.
05:26
We don't need Wawda Saab for that.
05:28
Thank you very much.
05:30
Thank you very much.
06:00
We will talk to the politicians.
06:02
There are a lot of questions.
06:04
We will see in the coming days.
06:06
There will be clarity.
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