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00:30Judiciary is also a pillar and so is Mukundana.

00:34Parliament has the right to make its own laws, right?

00:39It does not have the right to make blind laws.

00:41What are the parameters?

00:42The constitution.

00:43And the right to amend the constitution?

00:44There is a spirit of the constitution.

00:45Can you take all the fundamental rights of the people of Pakistan from the constitution?

00:50Please tell me.

00:52Absolutely not.

00:53Then?

00:54Parliament is sovereign and has the right to amend it.

00:57But it does not have the right to amend everything.

00:59You do not have the right to make amends in the spirit of the constitution.

01:05How can you make amends in the spirit of the constitution, Mr. Abbas?

01:08That a separate court is being made which listens to the constitutional matters

01:12and the issues of the people are listened to by a court.

01:15I just want to understand that.

01:16Yes.

01:17Who will be the judge of that?

01:19As soon as the method changes, it is fine.

01:21Who will be the Chief Judge of Pakistan?

01:23If the method they are doing…

01:25Where will the authority of the Supreme Court end and a new court will start?

01:31This is a very difficult question.

01:34Countries that operate in the common law domain do not have constitutional courts.

01:39This is not understood.

01:42Study this.

01:43Keep this in front of the people.

01:45This is what we want to do.

01:46Debate.

01:47Defend the government.

01:48People comment on it.

01:50There is a program every day in Anika Nisar's program.

01:53Five to six people come.

01:54To talk about it, I am in favour of it.

01:56These are the reasons.

01:57It should be done.

01:58It is very important.

01:59The country is not running without anyone.

02:00Today, this matter will create more confusion in your country.

02:04There will be more confusion.

02:05You are talking about a very interesting debate.

02:07The problem in the debate is…

02:09Not a problem.

02:10Actually, it is a good thing.

02:11For example, if there is a debate,

02:13the political parties that were a part of the 18th amendment

02:17or the people's party that brought the 18th amendment,

02:20had a total of 355 hours of debate.

02:23Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is saying today that we will try to complete the number.

02:28The party that made the constitution

02:30and the party that brought the 18th amendment

02:32are ready to amend it.

02:34Has there been any change in the party?

02:36Because PTI is saying that this was not expected from Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

02:39Were you expecting this?

02:40The party that will take part in this kind of action,

02:45that without reading the constitution,

02:48and the parties that are very divided,

02:51will lose their democratic credentials.

02:54Tomorrow, they will say whatever they want.

02:56Remember this.

02:57Including Mr. Maulana.

02:58Including Mr. Maulana.

02:59Mr. Maulana has stopped it.

03:01The corruption that has stopped today,

03:03if anyone wants to give credit,

03:04it is Mr. Maulana.

03:05Mr. Maulana has just said this much,

03:07let me see what you do.

03:08This has been delayed.

03:09It has not stopped.

03:10It has stopped.

03:11You are saying that we will make our own debate,

03:13the people's party will make their own debate,

03:14and then we will compare it.

03:16It will be a competition.

03:18What you are doing,

03:19you should bring it somewhere.

03:21I know,

03:23what is the problem,

03:26that in the darkness of the night,

03:28you are doing a constitutional amendment,

03:29which no one has seen.

03:30Neither the people of Pakistan have seen it,

03:32nor the parliament members have seen it.

03:34What is the problem?

03:36If it is not amended,

03:37does it mean that Pakistan is closed?

03:39This question is very valid.

03:40What kind of democracy is this in this country?

03:42This question is valid.

03:43What kind of thinking is this?

03:44This is not valid.

03:45You are absolutely right,

03:47to make the parliament sit on Saturday and Sunday,

03:49and that too at night.

03:50This is a demonstration,

03:54that this was being stolen in the country.

03:56The country's constitution was being looted.

03:59Now in the darkness of the night,

04:01you were adamant that you had to pass it tonight.

04:04Abbas sahib,

04:05now the issue that is being created,

04:08is that one move is taken by the government or parliament,

04:12and on the other hand,

04:13the answer comes from the Supreme Court.

04:16And this situation is going on to and fro.

04:19For how long can we sustain this?

04:21This is in the interest of the country.

04:23There is no time to make moves.

04:25This is a matter of the people.

04:27There is a shortage in all this.

04:29The issue of the people is closed.

04:31The government is adamant that

04:33the Supreme Court's decision is not acceptable to us.

04:36You make laws to negate that decision.

04:39You pass laws,

04:40night and day.

04:41Is this the way to negate democracy?

04:44What has the Supreme Court said that is wrong?

04:46Let's have a debate on that in the country.

04:48If you were the Prime Minister of the country today,

04:50what would you do to diffuse this situation?

04:52I would not let this situation arise.

04:55Now it has happened.

04:56What do you do now?

04:57If it has happened, let's step back.

04:58Let's step back.

04:59Let's not reform.

05:00Let's not reform.

05:01You want to reform,

05:02then bring it.

05:03Let's put reform in front of the people.

05:06Right.

05:07Shahid Khan Abbas sahib,

05:08thank you very much for joining me in the program.

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