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#Chronique_culture / Interview avec la réalisatrice Hind Meddeb - 04/12/2024
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00:00
Welcome to Medea TV and Zoom in this chronicle about a passionate director who will take you to the Hindmedeb Sudan,
00:19
which was in the official competition of the 21st edition of the International Film Festival of Marrakech.
00:25
Hindmedeb, it's a pleasure and an honor to be with you.
00:30
Hind, thank you very much for accepting our invitation.
00:33
Your film is called Sudan, remember, but in Arabic, Sudan and Rally.
00:37
It's my favorite title.
00:39
As I was saying, we want to tell you about Hind and Rally,
00:43
because it's a fascinating, beautiful film where there is poetry.
00:47
First, a feeling about his selection for the official competition.
00:52
For me, it's a very, very special moment, because Morocco is my country of heart.
00:59
It's the country of my mother, where I spent almost all my holidays since I was born,
01:05
where I lived at certain times.
01:07
And so it's a festival that is different from all the other festivals I've been able to do before,
01:14
because here I feel at home and I'm happy that Moroccans can finally discover a film that I made.
01:23
And also, for another reason, I'm here in Marrakech with Shajan,
01:27
who is Sudanese, who is the main character of the film.
01:31
And Shajan, I went to her country, I followed her,
01:35
and when she arrived in Marrakech, what she told me touched me a lot.
01:39
She told me, you came to see my country, now I come to see your country.
01:43
And she was also very, very moved.
01:45
So for us, it's mostly more than the question of the fact that it's a big festival,
01:52
that it's important for the film, it's important from a personal point of view.
01:57
So precisely, Hind, we feel your involvement in this documentary,
02:02
which is carried by this Arab-Sudanese poetry.
02:07
Was it a choice from the beginning to put these words,
02:10
this strength, this fervor in these young Sudanese?
02:14
The story of this film is a series of events that are embedded in each other
02:22
and that made this film come to life.
02:24
Nothing was planned.
02:26
And at the same time, there was, instinctively,
02:30
everything I filmed and what makes us get to this film.
02:35
And it was, let's say, a great attention to everything that was going on
02:41
that made this film come to life.
02:43
But above all, what I wanted to say is that it's a film, it's a story of friendship.
02:47
And I had not planned that there would be poetry.
02:51
I had absolutely nothing planned.
02:53
I made a film before, called Paris-Stalingrad,
02:56
which I also shot for personal reasons,
02:59
because there were thousands of refugees in a neighborhood
03:02
where I lived for a very long time, next to the Stalingrad subway.
03:05
The film is called Paris-Stalingrad.
03:07
And a situation of great injustice and great violence
03:10
that was done to these exiled people who were asking for political asylum in France,
03:14
who were coming from countries at war.
03:16
And when I shot Paris-Stalingrad,
03:18
I made friends with Sudanese, with whom I am still friends today.
03:22
And if I made this film, it was thanks to a poet called Hassan Yassin,
03:26
who lives in Paris.
03:28
And when we finished shooting Paris-Stalingrad,
03:30
when we presented the film, the revolution began in Sudan.
03:32
And my Sudanese friends in Paris told me,
03:34
but you have to go see our country, the doors of our country are opening.
03:37
After the fall of Omar al-Bashir,
03:39
a very closed country in the outside world for 30 years.
03:42
And they told me, we are going to help you,
03:44
we are going to give you the coordinates of our family and our friends.
03:46
You will not be alone.
03:48
And so I took the plane and I went to Sudan
03:53
and I arrived in the middle of the democratic sitting in Khartoum.
03:56
And there I literally dived into a bath of beauty,
04:00
because the Sudanese have set up a utopian city
04:03
around the army headquarters
04:05
to ask the Madaniya, a citizen state,
04:07
that is, to ask that their country be returned to them,
04:09
which had been confiscated from them for 30 years by a dictatorship
04:12
which at the same time plundered resources, created wars,
04:15
massacred people in the name of a radical Islam
04:19
who could not stand that there could be other religions in the country.
04:26
There are animists, there are Christians in Sudan,
04:28
there are 500 different tribes.
04:30
So I really dived and discovered this poetry.
04:34
And it was after the editing that we decided to build the film
04:39
around poems and songs.
04:41
So Hidna, maybe one last question,
04:44
I was saying, we hear you in this Sudan,
04:51
but your documentary is really touching.
04:56
We are very moved, we are very moved.
04:58
We discover, we Moroccans, this African country,
05:04
we discover this youth.
05:06
Maybe this question about this youth today,
05:11
this youth of this 21st century and this desire to see things change.
05:16
I would start by saying that what touched me the most
05:19
is the Arabic language in Sudan.
05:21
And we have this Arabic language in common.
05:23
And that's what's very beautiful about this space,
05:26
from Morocco to Iraq, we share the same language.
05:29
And we share the same love for poetry.
05:31
And that's what makes us special.
05:33
And I think that we, people from Morocco to Iraq,
05:37
we have to get closer to each other
05:40
to create a real space.
05:42
For me, that's the future of this region.
05:46
This language that we have in common,
05:48
and we don't put enough things in common.
05:50
When I arrived in Sudan, I recognized myself
05:53
in the beauty of Sudanese poetry,
05:55
in the beauty of the struggle of these young Sudanese,
05:57
in their hope of having a better life,
06:00
in their desire and their passion for freedom.
06:03
And I, who was born and grew up in France,
06:05
the French Revolution has always been,
06:08
it was taught to us,
06:10
it has always been like that in a corner of my head.
06:12
And the French Revolution gave rise to great literature.
06:15
And Victor Hugo is a child of this revolution,
06:17
even if he arrives much later.
06:19
And he wrote a poem that I always had in mind,
06:22
which came to me in a second time,
06:27
after seeing the power of Sudanese poetry,
06:29
where people recite poetry
06:31
as if it were a question of life or death.
06:34
And Victor Hugo, in a poem he wrote
06:37
to defend himself in court against an attack,
06:39
because he did not stop being attacked,
06:41
and he was also a political man,
06:42
and sometimes even politically,
06:44
he responded with poetry, as in the film.
06:46
And so it's a poem where he says,
06:48
because the word we know is a living being,
06:51
the hand of the thinker trembles and vibrates when writing it.
06:55
And that's what I saw in action in Sudan.
06:59
So I would say that the Sudanese are the children,
07:02
are the Victor Hugo of the 21st century.
07:05
And they are also those who show us the way.
07:10
I think it's not just a film about Sudan,
07:13
it's a universal film about the desire for freedom,
07:16
the desire also to recover its country.
07:23
All these countries that are confiscated from the population in Africa,
07:28
when we look at the current situation,
07:31
Syria has been completely destroyed,
07:33
Iraq has been completely destroyed,
07:35
Yemen is still at war,
07:36
Libya is still at war,
07:38
in a catastrophic situation.
07:40
And all these countries that I knew well,
07:42
that I crossed with my father and my mother,
07:44
my mother lived in Damascus,
07:45
I knew Syria before the war,
07:47
my father raised me by telling me about the thousand and one nights,
07:50
the evening while I was sleeping,
07:51
and I always had in mind this image of Baghdad,
07:54
of Harun al-Rashid,
07:56
who disguises himself by praying at night,
07:58
and who walks in his city to hear what his people say about him.
08:01
So I grew up with all these myths,
08:03
and I have the feeling that since I was born,
08:06
there has been a meticulous destruction of these places,
08:09
which are the cradle of civilization,
08:11
and let's never forget that Sudan is also the country of the pharaohs.
08:15
And we always talk about Egypt,
08:17
but there are pyramids in Sudan,
08:19
and a civilization that is 10,000 years old.
08:22
There were women who were queens,
08:24
the Kandakats,
08:25
so 10,000 years before Jesus Christ,
08:27
the Kandakats,
08:28
were women who ruled the kingdom of couches,
08:31
it was in Sudan.
08:32
And these women repelled the Roman invasions.
08:35
So it's not surprising that even today,
08:37
Sudanese women are still so powerful,
08:39
and that they were,
08:41
how can I say,
08:42
at the forefront of this revolution.
08:44
And it is above all a feminist revolution
08:46
to which I attended,
08:48
and that's why I was very touched.
08:51
Yes, Madam, thank you very much.
08:53
I know that we can stay with you for hours,
08:55
given the passion and love that you carry,
08:57
in any case,
08:58
for what we saw in this film.
09:01
So, Sudan, remember,
09:03
Sudan, ya ghali,
09:04
because as I told you...
09:05
Sudan, ya ghali,
09:07
ya ard al hurriya.
09:09
It's a song that starts like that.
09:10
And as Sudan, ya ghali,
09:11
was introducible in French or English,
09:14
I chose the title
09:15
Sudan, remember us,
09:17
in English,
09:18
because it is the reference to the last poem of the film.
09:20
So if you go to see the film,
09:21
you will understand the title of the film.
09:23
Thank you very much, Hede.
09:24
Madam, thank you.
09:25
And thank you, dear viewers,
09:27
for your loyalty.
09:28
Stay with us.
09:29
The information continues
09:30
on our different channels,
09:31
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09:32
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09:33
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09:34
and of course,
09:35
on our digital media,
09:36
medianews.com.
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